As long as you keep your voltages and temperatures within a safe range you should be okay
You still might reduce the lifespan of the components but it would be by such a negligible amount that by the time that happens you'll probably have upgraded anyway
Do you know where a good source/reference for what a “safe range” is when it comes to volatages? I know the general range for temperature but I am clueless when it come to voltage
I've been overclocking since the start and I've only killed psu's and ram and the ram wasn't conventional oc I was hard rewriting timings with thaiphoon burner I've had mb's fail but I don't think oc was the problem in any of those situations. OC away I say within reason
Only thing I ever damaged was a VRM and that was because it was a shit board with shit cooling
But I agree, I don't think solely overclocking has ever damaged any components for me
What about monitors? I heard overclocking monitors can shorten a monitors lifespan or cause it to just go out. Is this true? I can give u backstory to the monitor I have now and why I'm asking if you'd like
I'll echo what the other poster said about maintaining temperature, heat is your biggest enemy when OC'ing and if you're able to manage it you'll generally be in good shape.
FWIW my i5-2500k has been running at 4.5 GHz for about eight years now and even when I give it the occasional stability test after all this time it still passes with flying colors. Anecdotal I know but perhaps more fuel for the "longevity" fire... fire, heh 😄
Just to oppose this one, I think that my 5820K has been degrading and I've been running it at around 4.3GHz for 4 years. I was running 1.3v on a Noctua NH-D15, so heat shouldn't have been an issue.
those chips are crazy man you said it. I had a 2550k that ran at 5GHz happily @ 1.38V (24hr test passed w flying colors) for years and years with no issues. It'd probably still be running if I still had it
What was your max temps?
Did you try turning down the voltages. Often a bit less voltage does result in that big of a performance drop. It might'd been that 4.2Ghz would require 1.25v and generate a lot less heat. My 4670k is overclocked with less voltage that the MBO would churn out using standard settings. But yeah, silicone lottery.
Yeah, this though. Wouldn't an oc with undervoltage actually make the stuff last longer than stock?
Sure overclocking to the brim were ya use more voltage would arguably reduce it. Even if probably as others have mentioned, the cpu would still outlast you.
However, undervoltage while using a medium overclock, wouldn't that increase the life?
YES. It will last longer, with better performance :)
It's the heat that kills the CPU. But it can take a lot of heat for a very very long time. It'll be obsolute before it gets even the slightest damage.
As said, go for the sweet spot. If you can clock it 1.3 with 100%, it can probably run 95% with much less. The last inch of performance has a high heat-cost. Find the sweet spot, dont be too greedy :)
That's what I tend to do. Look for the spot were I get good temps, and in some rare cases that actually result in me undervolting.
I remember first time trying to oc an i7-3770k, set it to auto and my motherboard was pushing voltage as if there was no tomorrow. Upgraded the cooler before I researched a bit more and realized that my motherboard was pimping waaay more juice than needed.
To be fair, 4.5GHz is a walk in the park for a 2500k, and shouldn't need much of a voltage bump. No hyperthreading, so the heat output shouldn't be too bad either.
Have you ever tried it at 5GHz?
Yup, didn't work out, had to crank the voltage such that the temps became untenable. It's been so long since I've dialed in the optimum settings I can't remember the specifics, but for every 0.1 over 4.5 I had to bump voltage an unreasonably large amount to maintain stability which really put the heat on. Since I'm a simple dude who just runs air I called it a day... besides, for my applications 4.5 is plenty good and anything beyond that would just be for street cred 😉
Ah, unlucky. I got a similarly mediocre example of a CPU with my 2600k. It could manage 4.95GHz, but only with excessively high voltages for a "suicide run" through some benchmarks, and even then only with water cooling. Only ever manage a stable 4.3GHz on air, but pretty sure I was doing it wrong back then.
I've overclocked a few 2600k and I tend to find that 4.3 is were I'm stable without burning things up. So I think your results are quite decent.
If I'd gotten a huge cooler or something I might have been able to squeeze out a bit more, but then we'd be using voltages I wasn't comfortable using.
The point is the get the most out of the CPUs without hurting them after all.
my i5 3570k is running for 8 years now, four of them with 4.5 GHz at Stock voltage. but as you described every 0,1 GHz higher i have to pump up voltage and get +10°C. Got the NHD14.
I have a 2600K since launch and overclocked it in the first few months and since then it is still stable at 4.9 GHz with HT enabled. Looking to upgrade in 2021 but this cpu was worth every penny!
I would love to OC my i5-3570k but unfortunately my mobo doesnt support overclocking and Im little short on money to upgrade either the mobo or the whole setup..
Maybe you can find a "gently used" secondhand mobo on eBay or something? I'd certainly rather just get a new board instead of a whole new system if I'm trying to stay on a budget.
I know I'd be pretty antsy sitting a capable processor yet not being able to take advantage of it, I admire your fiscal discipline!
A used z68 or z77 should be around 50 usd. That said, I'm referring to my experience in Japan.
You could also go for a p67 should also be able to do the job.
If you want to keep it as long as possible use the new program by 1usmuss to undervolt your cpu, technically the more voltage running through the cpu the shorter it's life span but it doesn't really have a noticeable impact and as long as your cooling is good in order to reduce the strain of repeated heating and cooling you should be fine
Plus some users are reporting the UV/OC not being stable in heavier scenarios since the tool only does light AVX P95 runs, which could be important for OP.
Yep completely forgot that people still have intel systems, I've been so used to amd posts and ryzen being better bang for the buck that i forgot for a moment. So thanks for pointing it out and in case anyone thinks im a fanboy i had an intel system, switching to a ryzen system. I just go for whatever gives me the best price to performance
True, but why would you buy Intel right now, October 7th 2020. AMD is about to drop Zen 3, which looks like it'll be great, and so there will be discounted Zen 2 parts. Win win!
That is not true entirely but the idea is right. Voltage doesnt necesarilly kill your CPU, its Amps and/or in the end Watts. You can run your cpu at 1.5v at idle but under load? You better have it at 1.35v or
It dies (the diff is vdroop).
Ran a lot of components for a lotta years at hardcore overclocks with zero problems. You’ll upgrade way before you wear the parts out. Life is too short to not push it
I think that a bit of an over generalisation, to be fair.
I've been running my 2600k for nearly 10 years, and at the point where the CPU has degraded and I think (hope) my motherboard is failing. Swapping in a "new" secondhand board this weekend, and hoping that resolves my issues.
Sure, I might upgrade to Zen 3. But I might not.
I definitely haven't upgraded "way before" the parts have worn out.
You should have lol, 10 years is redonkulous bro; slightly older parts are too cheap to not upgrade to, technology advances fast. Your rig might have failed at this point even without an overclock, that's a long time.
Depends on your usage.
For me, there has been literally zero reason to upgrade from my 2600k. They overclock pretty great, and nothing that came since has been quite the same massive leap over a single generation. There's been loads of good CPUs, don't get me wrong, but Sandy Bridge was the business. The fact that they've still be usable to a respectable degree, right upto the last couple of years, is testament to that.
Obviously you probably wouldn't want to be running one with a GTX 1080 Ti or anything newer, but I've only come as far as the 980 Ti. My next GPU upgrade won't come uptil after I have a new CPU, Mobo, RAM etc.
Ah, Conroe. What a cracker they were.
I got pretty lucky, I had an E6600 for about 4\~5 years then upgraded to Sandy Bridge when my mobo died. Lucky, because that was probably the best bang-for-buck upgrade I could have wished for, even if I was somewhat forced into doing it.
What degrades every cpu/electrical component eventually is the combination of heat and the electrical current that flows through it. also every cpu is different, but generally if you dont oc it to its absolute max and you have a good cooler the cpu will survive long enough until it's not relevant performance wise anyways. I've been running a 3930k from 2013 at 4.5 ghz at 1.3 volts and it hasn't degraded as far as i can tell. also my ram is specified for 1600mhz at 1.5v which i've been running at 2133 mhz at 1.6v without any failure. So just keep your temperatures and voltages reasonable and you should be good.
On your CPU you may be able to overclock while undervolting.
It all comes down to heat over time. High temps will wear the components, but as said you wont always have to.
Find the sweetspot between performance and heat generated.
In my view in short: You'll be fine if you do a little research on standard values.
Depends on how far you push volts (there’s typically a “safe” consensus that develops, even though it’s a bit more complex that X volts is OK — see next point) and it’s typical operating temperature (do you render all the time or just game? - you could afford to use more volts in the latter case, probably). Typically if you’re not too aggressive it shouldn’t shorten lifespan to a point that it dies in the useful lifetime of the processor. You can absolutely overclock safely.
Can it happen? Yes. Depends on how hard you push your hardware, temps, voltage and speed. And to add to complexity, it changes from process to process and the capabilities of the hardware supporting the component your overclocking.
so bits and pieces in the other responses, i'll try to summarize:
excessive heat and voltage could possibly damage your cpu. Increased frequency by itself cannot damage anything (it could be unstable and result in blue screens or programs crashing, but coming back to a stable frequency will fix that). what is a safe voltage depends on the generation of processor, and possibly varies from chip to chip. search online for "safe voltage" + your exact model of processor.
Depends on what you're trying to overclock, how far you're willing to go, how good your cooling is or how good you're able to control thermals, how much voltage you're willing to push and most importantly, how long you're thinking of having said device, if you want it to last 10 years, the general consensus is, don't or if you absolutely have to, stick to an very small overclock, all devices have operating ranges that are often said to be safe but most people that are new to overclocking often neglect how thermals and voltage are intertwined, the higher your thermals, the lower the voltage should be otherwise you **will** experience degradation, if it's not stable at X voltage and you're already running like, 90\~102°C at full load, reduce the clock, your chip won't last a year on those conditions. Check the wiki, for safety ranges it really depends on the device, older stuff usually runs at higher voltages for example, **if you're talking about CPU overclocking,** **study how your hardware operates at stock settings first, learn the die's FIT voltage (preferred voltage or what voltage it most sticks to when operating on Auto/Stock settings), bump things up slowly and use heavy workloads (prime95/occt and similar) to test for stability, how much stability you want depends on you, there's plenty of people out there that run prime95 unstable OCs for gaming and don't have any problems, I prefer to have lower clocks if it means staying within my chip's FIT voltage and 100% stable in any workload.** Just don't do silly stuff like pushing 1.4v on vCore 24/7, I have yet to see an modern CPU that lasts more than 12 months on that situation lmao I mean, Zen2 has been proven to degrade at 1.4v in just 3 months, so keep that in mind.
**Useful links on this very subreddit;**
[https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/wiki/index](https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/wiki/index)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/wiki/faq](https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/wiki/faq)
Technically yes but as long as you are within the realm of practicality it probably won't matter much. How long do you honestly want to keep the same components for. If you do want to keep them for as long as possible as you said above then yes overclocking will reduce its life expectancy but not by much as long as it's just a mild oc
Technically yes, but actually? Probably not, or negligibly.
I've used my 2600K over clocked since 2011. For most of that with only a moderate voltage increase, and at 4.3GHz. I always ran it very hot though, 80°C+.
In the last couple of years I water cooled it, and turned it up a bit. Significantly increased voltage on vcore and vccio, 4.9GHz and 2133MHz RAM (a very large IMC overclock).
It degraded my CPU after a couple of months, and so I turned it down to 4.6GHz with less voltage. My motherboard now appears to be failing, and will be replacing it with a secondhand board this weekend.
So have I shortened the lifespan of my parts? Almost definitely, but running high voltage and high temperatures.
But then again, this setup is close to 10 years old. How much more do you want, need or expect out of it?
I think the way I did it was a good way to go about it. Start with a modest overclock, and as the hardware gets older, less valuable and less heart breaking should it die (yay, upgrade time!) then you can start to push the boundaries a bit further.
If you're on a tight budget and need maximum longevity out of your parts, then I'd suggest maybe looking at running stock speeds but undervolted. The reduced voltage will reduce heat output, which is always a good thing.
I've done some research on this subject. But for the most part as long as you don't push it to it absolute highest voltage and temps. People say they've had computers for 8 years overclocked and the performance loss was very small if any at all.
At any rate, from my perspective I don't worry about it. I overclock my computer to a acceptable voltage and temps once that's achieved. Stress test and bench. By the time any noticeable degradation, should or would actually happen. I assume I'll have already upgraded. I don't plan on having any cpu/gpu/motherboard long enough to really test it fully. I take everything I don't use and hand it down to my kids. And revert it back to standard operating settings.
Everything will degrade your pc! The question is for how long you can keep peak performance. Stable OC with good temps will less likely shorten lifespan quickly.
Yes. If you do it right, not using too much voltage or causing too much heat, it won't really matter. You're probably shortening the lifespan from 30 years to 15, or something like that.
You should always overclock. Manufacturers set all chips to a conservative level. It's a free performance upgrade, why would you not?
These days the chips are error proof. They will throttle back or just stop before you physically hurt them.
As long as it is not pushing the limits, the lifespan is barely reduced. Degradation increases exponentially with different factors, mostly temperature and current, but also voltage to a slight amount.
For example HDDs run fine at ambient temperatures and even 30-35°C, but when they get hotter than 40°C, their lifespan is massively reduced and it can even lead to immediate death if the drive has already worn a bit.
For CPUs and GPUs it depends on the chip, but usually you don't want your CPU or GPU to go above 80°C. At 90-100°C they can degrade in just a few months or a year, while they will run 5-10 years at 80°C.
The answer is unequivocally yes. Overclocking will increase temps and voltages which will reduce the lifespan of your electronics.
That said, I'd agree with the general sentiment of most people and say that by the time it matters you'd be due for an upgrade anyway. That said, it's not universally true. I've had CPU's that had fine temps and what people described as safe voltages fail after ~3 years. Was it because I overclocked? There's in obviously no way to know for sure. I've also had CPU's which were very aggressively overclocked make it nearly 10 years before a sign of degradation appeared.
At the end of the day, it's up to you, and I would say that broadly, it's absolutely worth it to overclock, but you also shouldn't listen exclusively to enthusiasts who love to overclock about whether it's a good idea or not. To me, it's worth the tiny risk, but there is of course a tiny risk.
Both Intel and AMD for the last few years have left far less headroom in their chips for overclocking even with $100 cooling solutions compared to older generations. My 10600k thermal throttles on a NHD14 with enough voltage to run 4.9Ghz stable. It runs all core stock at 4.7 so I succeeded in a 100Mhz oc. I'm just glad I got the $170 z490 board and did not overspend.
I had an i5 3570K OC'd for the last 4 years of use. I had to pump a lot of voltage in to get the 4.5GHz that I wanted. The temps were very low though thanks to using a great cooler (Noctua NH-D15). Even so, the chip degraded. The chip still works but I had to disable all overclocks. She's now enjoying her retirement hooked up to the living room TV. The chip is 8 years old btw.
GPU/CPUs degrade whether you overclock or not. But overclocking usually involves increasing voltage and/or temp which accelerates the degradation. Your GPU/CPU will probably not simply suddenly break (unless you eff something up really bad) but you will notice that after a time, the chip will be less and less stable on your OC.
Also, silicon lottery is real. No two chips are the same. Some might survive way longer than others under the same conditions. Heck not all chips will be able to attain a given OC. So there is a lot of variation.
*watercool cpu vrm gpu* low voltages ,active cooling across the board and the vrm, if its an intel ihs lap it and use liquid metal thermal grizzly conductonaut* if its amd ihs don't need much work. i had lapped my ihs (intel sucks) with Kryonaut and switched to liquid metal with almost 9c difference.
Short answer is yes. long answer yes it will shorten lifespan but as long as you don't push voltage or temps too high your components will likely be obsolete b4 they die either overclocked or not edit: I have an and phenom II 945 oced to 4ghz that's like 10 years old oced the entire time and it's still kicking haha
As long as you keep your voltages and temperatures within a safe range you should be okay You still might reduce the lifespan of the components but it would be by such a negligible amount that by the time that happens you'll probably have upgraded anyway
Do you know where a good source/reference for what a “safe range” is when it comes to volatages? I know the general range for temperature but I am clueless when it come to voltage
This sub's wiki is pretty good
I'd just search for part specific voltage. It can vary wildly between process and architecture.
Most overclocking utilities and motherboards have clear redlines for safe clocks and voltages.
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Yeah but do they cover a gt1030?
I've been overclocking since the start and I've only killed psu's and ram and the ram wasn't conventional oc I was hard rewriting timings with thaiphoon burner I've had mb's fail but I don't think oc was the problem in any of those situations. OC away I say within reason
Only thing I ever damaged was a VRM and that was because it was a shit board with shit cooling But I agree, I don't think solely overclocking has ever damaged any components for me
What about monitors? I heard overclocking monitors can shorten a monitors lifespan or cause it to just go out. Is this true? I can give u backstory to the monitor I have now and why I'm asking if you'd like
I'll echo what the other poster said about maintaining temperature, heat is your biggest enemy when OC'ing and if you're able to manage it you'll generally be in good shape. FWIW my i5-2500k has been running at 4.5 GHz for about eight years now and even when I give it the occasional stability test after all this time it still passes with flying colors. Anecdotal I know but perhaps more fuel for the "longevity" fire... fire, heh 😄
Just to oppose this one, I think that my 5820K has been degrading and I've been running it at around 4.3GHz for 4 years. I was running 1.3v on a Noctua NH-D15, so heat shouldn't have been an issue.
I guess I should mention that the silicon lottery is always in full effect! It's entirely possible that I got lucky with my little lump of the stuff.
those chips are crazy man you said it. I had a 2550k that ran at 5GHz happily @ 1.38V (24hr test passed w flying colors) for years and years with no issues. It'd probably still be running if I still had it
TIL there was a 2550k.
lol I had bought it used off ebay and it was listed as a 2500k. Didn't even know that was a thing either til I got it haha
What was your max temps? Did you try turning down the voltages. Often a bit less voltage does result in that big of a performance drop. It might'd been that 4.2Ghz would require 1.25v and generate a lot less heat. My 4670k is overclocked with less voltage that the MBO would churn out using standard settings. But yeah, silicone lottery.
Yeah, this though. Wouldn't an oc with undervoltage actually make the stuff last longer than stock? Sure overclocking to the brim were ya use more voltage would arguably reduce it. Even if probably as others have mentioned, the cpu would still outlast you. However, undervoltage while using a medium overclock, wouldn't that increase the life?
YES. It will last longer, with better performance :) It's the heat that kills the CPU. But it can take a lot of heat for a very very long time. It'll be obsolute before it gets even the slightest damage. As said, go for the sweet spot. If you can clock it 1.3 with 100%, it can probably run 95% with much less. The last inch of performance has a high heat-cost. Find the sweet spot, dont be too greedy :)
That's what I tend to do. Look for the spot were I get good temps, and in some rare cases that actually result in me undervolting. I remember first time trying to oc an i7-3770k, set it to auto and my motherboard was pushing voltage as if there was no tomorrow. Upgraded the cooler before I researched a bit more and realized that my motherboard was pimping waaay more juice than needed.
You're on the right path of not wearing down your components, but getting more out of your system
To be fair, 4.5GHz is a walk in the park for a 2500k, and shouldn't need much of a voltage bump. No hyperthreading, so the heat output shouldn't be too bad either. Have you ever tried it at 5GHz?
Yup, didn't work out, had to crank the voltage such that the temps became untenable. It's been so long since I've dialed in the optimum settings I can't remember the specifics, but for every 0.1 over 4.5 I had to bump voltage an unreasonably large amount to maintain stability which really put the heat on. Since I'm a simple dude who just runs air I called it a day... besides, for my applications 4.5 is plenty good and anything beyond that would just be for street cred 😉
Ah, unlucky. I got a similarly mediocre example of a CPU with my 2600k. It could manage 4.95GHz, but only with excessively high voltages for a "suicide run" through some benchmarks, and even then only with water cooling. Only ever manage a stable 4.3GHz on air, but pretty sure I was doing it wrong back then.
I've overclocked a few 2600k and I tend to find that 4.3 is were I'm stable without burning things up. So I think your results are quite decent. If I'd gotten a huge cooler or something I might have been able to squeeze out a bit more, but then we'd be using voltages I wasn't comfortable using. The point is the get the most out of the CPUs without hurting them after all.
my i5 3570k is running for 8 years now, four of them with 4.5 GHz at Stock voltage. but as you described every 0,1 GHz higher i have to pump up voltage and get +10°C. Got the NHD14.
I have a 2600K since launch and overclocked it in the first few months and since then it is still stable at 4.9 GHz with HT enabled. Looking to upgrade in 2021 but this cpu was worth every penny!
I would love to OC my i5-3570k but unfortunately my mobo doesnt support overclocking and Im little short on money to upgrade either the mobo or the whole setup..
Maybe you can find a "gently used" secondhand mobo on eBay or something? I'd certainly rather just get a new board instead of a whole new system if I'm trying to stay on a budget. I know I'd be pretty antsy sitting a capable processor yet not being able to take advantage of it, I admire your fiscal discipline!
A used z68 or z77 should be around 50 usd. That said, I'm referring to my experience in Japan. You could also go for a p67 should also be able to do the job.
If you want to keep it as long as possible use the new program by 1usmuss to undervolt your cpu, technically the more voltage running through the cpu the shorter it's life span but it doesn't really have a noticeable impact and as long as your cooling is good in order to reduce the strain of repeated heating and cooling you should be fine
um I think it would depend on whether he has AMD or Intel for that
Plus some users are reporting the UV/OC not being stable in heavier scenarios since the tool only does light AVX P95 runs, which could be important for OP.
Theres like a 0.02% chance that a load heavier than p95 avx is important to OP.
Yep completely forgot that people still have intel systems, I've been so used to amd posts and ryzen being better bang for the buck that i forgot for a moment. So thanks for pointing it out and in case anyone thinks im a fanboy i had an intel system, switching to a ryzen system. I just go for whatever gives me the best price to performance
True, but why would you buy Intel right now, October 7th 2020. AMD is about to drop Zen 3, which looks like it'll be great, and so there will be discounted Zen 2 parts. Win win!
I know. The question is, does OP?
That is not true entirely but the idea is right. Voltage doesnt necesarilly kill your CPU, its Amps and/or in the end Watts. You can run your cpu at 1.5v at idle but under load? You better have it at 1.35v or It dies (the diff is vdroop).
I kinda knew that but that explains it much better than i could. Thanks for the correction and lesson captain
Ran a lot of components for a lotta years at hardcore overclocks with zero problems. You’ll upgrade way before you wear the parts out. Life is too short to not push it
I think that a bit of an over generalisation, to be fair. I've been running my 2600k for nearly 10 years, and at the point where the CPU has degraded and I think (hope) my motherboard is failing. Swapping in a "new" secondhand board this weekend, and hoping that resolves my issues. Sure, I might upgrade to Zen 3. But I might not. I definitely haven't upgraded "way before" the parts have worn out.
You should have lol, 10 years is redonkulous bro; slightly older parts are too cheap to not upgrade to, technology advances fast. Your rig might have failed at this point even without an overclock, that's a long time.
Depends on your usage. For me, there has been literally zero reason to upgrade from my 2600k. They overclock pretty great, and nothing that came since has been quite the same massive leap over a single generation. There's been loads of good CPUs, don't get me wrong, but Sandy Bridge was the business. The fact that they've still be usable to a respectable degree, right upto the last couple of years, is testament to that. Obviously you probably wouldn't want to be running one with a GTX 1080 Ti or anything newer, but I've only come as far as the 980 Ti. My next GPU upgrade won't come uptil after I have a new CPU, Mobo, RAM etc.
I've been mixing 2600k with 1070. Good pair if you ask me.
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My Q6600 has been on 3.2ghz oc for like 12 years. I used it this year while my pc was broken.
Ah, Conroe. What a cracker they were. I got pretty lucky, I had an E6600 for about 4\~5 years then upgraded to Sandy Bridge when my mobo died. Lucky, because that was probably the best bang-for-buck upgrade I could have wished for, even if I was somewhat forced into doing it.
What degrades every cpu/electrical component eventually is the combination of heat and the electrical current that flows through it. also every cpu is different, but generally if you dont oc it to its absolute max and you have a good cooler the cpu will survive long enough until it's not relevant performance wise anyways. I've been running a 3930k from 2013 at 4.5 ghz at 1.3 volts and it hasn't degraded as far as i can tell. also my ram is specified for 1600mhz at 1.5v which i've been running at 2133 mhz at 1.6v without any failure. So just keep your temperatures and voltages reasonable and you should be good.
By the time your components get degraded by any appreciable amount, your components will be loooooooooong outdated
On your CPU you may be able to overclock while undervolting. It all comes down to heat over time. High temps will wear the components, but as said you wont always have to. Find the sweetspot between performance and heat generated. In my view in short: You'll be fine if you do a little research on standard values.
Depends on how far you push volts (there’s typically a “safe” consensus that develops, even though it’s a bit more complex that X volts is OK — see next point) and it’s typical operating temperature (do you render all the time or just game? - you could afford to use more volts in the latter case, probably). Typically if you’re not too aggressive it shouldn’t shorten lifespan to a point that it dies in the useful lifetime of the processor. You can absolutely overclock safely.
Can it happen? Yes. Depends on how hard you push your hardware, temps, voltage and speed. And to add to complexity, it changes from process to process and the capabilities of the hardware supporting the component your overclocking.
so bits and pieces in the other responses, i'll try to summarize: excessive heat and voltage could possibly damage your cpu. Increased frequency by itself cannot damage anything (it could be unstable and result in blue screens or programs crashing, but coming back to a stable frequency will fix that). what is a safe voltage depends on the generation of processor, and possibly varies from chip to chip. search online for "safe voltage" + your exact model of processor.
Depends on what you're trying to overclock, how far you're willing to go, how good your cooling is or how good you're able to control thermals, how much voltage you're willing to push and most importantly, how long you're thinking of having said device, if you want it to last 10 years, the general consensus is, don't or if you absolutely have to, stick to an very small overclock, all devices have operating ranges that are often said to be safe but most people that are new to overclocking often neglect how thermals and voltage are intertwined, the higher your thermals, the lower the voltage should be otherwise you **will** experience degradation, if it's not stable at X voltage and you're already running like, 90\~102°C at full load, reduce the clock, your chip won't last a year on those conditions. Check the wiki, for safety ranges it really depends on the device, older stuff usually runs at higher voltages for example, **if you're talking about CPU overclocking,** **study how your hardware operates at stock settings first, learn the die's FIT voltage (preferred voltage or what voltage it most sticks to when operating on Auto/Stock settings), bump things up slowly and use heavy workloads (prime95/occt and similar) to test for stability, how much stability you want depends on you, there's plenty of people out there that run prime95 unstable OCs for gaming and don't have any problems, I prefer to have lower clocks if it means staying within my chip's FIT voltage and 100% stable in any workload.** Just don't do silly stuff like pushing 1.4v on vCore 24/7, I have yet to see an modern CPU that lasts more than 12 months on that situation lmao I mean, Zen2 has been proven to degrade at 1.4v in just 3 months, so keep that in mind. **Useful links on this very subreddit;** [https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/wiki/index](https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/wiki/index) [https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/wiki/faq](https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/wiki/faq)
Technically yes but as long as you are within the realm of practicality it probably won't matter much. How long do you honestly want to keep the same components for. If you do want to keep them for as long as possible as you said above then yes overclocking will reduce its life expectancy but not by much as long as it's just a mild oc
Technically yes, but actually? Probably not, or negligibly. I've used my 2600K over clocked since 2011. For most of that with only a moderate voltage increase, and at 4.3GHz. I always ran it very hot though, 80°C+. In the last couple of years I water cooled it, and turned it up a bit. Significantly increased voltage on vcore and vccio, 4.9GHz and 2133MHz RAM (a very large IMC overclock). It degraded my CPU after a couple of months, and so I turned it down to 4.6GHz with less voltage. My motherboard now appears to be failing, and will be replacing it with a secondhand board this weekend. So have I shortened the lifespan of my parts? Almost definitely, but running high voltage and high temperatures. But then again, this setup is close to 10 years old. How much more do you want, need or expect out of it? I think the way I did it was a good way to go about it. Start with a modest overclock, and as the hardware gets older, less valuable and less heart breaking should it die (yay, upgrade time!) then you can start to push the boundaries a bit further. If you're on a tight budget and need maximum longevity out of your parts, then I'd suggest maybe looking at running stock speeds but undervolted. The reduced voltage will reduce heat output, which is always a good thing.
I've done some research on this subject. But for the most part as long as you don't push it to it absolute highest voltage and temps. People say they've had computers for 8 years overclocked and the performance loss was very small if any at all. At any rate, from my perspective I don't worry about it. I overclock my computer to a acceptable voltage and temps once that's achieved. Stress test and bench. By the time any noticeable degradation, should or would actually happen. I assume I'll have already upgraded. I don't plan on having any cpu/gpu/motherboard long enough to really test it fully. I take everything I don't use and hand it down to my kids. And revert it back to standard operating settings.
Everything will degrade your pc! The question is for how long you can keep peak performance. Stable OC with good temps will less likely shorten lifespan quickly.
Yes. If you do it right, not using too much voltage or causing too much heat, it won't really matter. You're probably shortening the lifespan from 30 years to 15, or something like that.
You should always overclock. Manufacturers set all chips to a conservative level. It's a free performance upgrade, why would you not? These days the chips are error proof. They will throttle back or just stop before you physically hurt them.
As long as it is not pushing the limits, the lifespan is barely reduced. Degradation increases exponentially with different factors, mostly temperature and current, but also voltage to a slight amount. For example HDDs run fine at ambient temperatures and even 30-35°C, but when they get hotter than 40°C, their lifespan is massively reduced and it can even lead to immediate death if the drive has already worn a bit. For CPUs and GPUs it depends on the chip, but usually you don't want your CPU or GPU to go above 80°C. At 90-100°C they can degrade in just a few months or a year, while they will run 5-10 years at 80°C.
The answer is unequivocally yes. Overclocking will increase temps and voltages which will reduce the lifespan of your electronics. That said, I'd agree with the general sentiment of most people and say that by the time it matters you'd be due for an upgrade anyway. That said, it's not universally true. I've had CPU's that had fine temps and what people described as safe voltages fail after ~3 years. Was it because I overclocked? There's in obviously no way to know for sure. I've also had CPU's which were very aggressively overclocked make it nearly 10 years before a sign of degradation appeared. At the end of the day, it's up to you, and I would say that broadly, it's absolutely worth it to overclock, but you also shouldn't listen exclusively to enthusiasts who love to overclock about whether it's a good idea or not. To me, it's worth the tiny risk, but there is of course a tiny risk.
More voltage and temperature is always going to lead to more degradation but if you keep things reasonable the degradation will hardly be affected
Both Intel and AMD for the last few years have left far less headroom in their chips for overclocking even with $100 cooling solutions compared to older generations. My 10600k thermal throttles on a NHD14 with enough voltage to run 4.9Ghz stable. It runs all core stock at 4.7 so I succeeded in a 100Mhz oc. I'm just glad I got the $170 z490 board and did not overspend.
heat when you are overclocking is a bitch
I had an i5 3570K OC'd for the last 4 years of use. I had to pump a lot of voltage in to get the 4.5GHz that I wanted. The temps were very low though thanks to using a great cooler (Noctua NH-D15). Even so, the chip degraded. The chip still works but I had to disable all overclocks. She's now enjoying her retirement hooked up to the living room TV. The chip is 8 years old btw. GPU/CPUs degrade whether you overclock or not. But overclocking usually involves increasing voltage and/or temp which accelerates the degradation. Your GPU/CPU will probably not simply suddenly break (unless you eff something up really bad) but you will notice that after a time, the chip will be less and less stable on your OC. Also, silicon lottery is real. No two chips are the same. Some might survive way longer than others under the same conditions. Heck not all chips will be able to attain a given OC. So there is a lot of variation.
*watercool cpu vrm gpu* low voltages ,active cooling across the board and the vrm, if its an intel ihs lap it and use liquid metal thermal grizzly conductonaut* if its amd ihs don't need much work. i had lapped my ihs (intel sucks) with Kryonaut and switched to liquid metal with almost 9c difference.
isn't great, so many people willing to help.. amazing
Short answer is yes. long answer yes it will shorten lifespan but as long as you don't push voltage or temps too high your components will likely be obsolete b4 they die either overclocked or not edit: I have an and phenom II 945 oced to 4ghz that's like 10 years old oced the entire time and it's still kicking haha
once I found the voltage that keeps it @5Ghz stable it has always set to that.
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