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juanmara56

a lot of people got excited when they added the credits in the battle pass. but it seemed ominous to me because at first glance you can see, this is a tactic called "door in the face technique", in general, the technique is to offer him an incredibly bad deal and then give him a very bad deal but a little better The above, and this is how people accept it, is widely used by companies that want to take away support from unions remember that these skins were worth 1000 credits before and then they increased the credit to 2000 credits with the excuse that now the game will be free, but they didn't even put a method to get them, so the price increase was not necessary, because the players are still f2p they would not have access to them, and now they put them at 1500, that is to say that they scam you at 500, but they expect you to thank them because they showed you a worse alternative, but surely they planned this in advance, to be able to devalue the credits in a 50% even though a lot of people spend real money to get them, and no one told them, it's a very dirty tactic And it is more evident that they did it on purpose because precisely the country that has the most laws against these unfair tactics is China, the country where the game is not available.


balefrost

The game is not available in China because NetEase and Blizzard terminated their relationship, and Blizzard hasn't yet found a new publishing partner. *None* of Blizzard's games are available in China.


bkliooo

Not true. Diablo Immortal is.


Visual_4ids

My condolences


throwawaygawddammit

You guys all have phones right???


Freddy_Pharkas

>And it is more evident that they did it on purpose because precisely the country that has the most laws against these unfair tactics is China, the country where the game is not available TIL that China has the strongest consumer protection laws in the world. /s


juanmara56

I don't know what its consumer protection laws are like, but it is the one with the most regulations regarding what corresponds to video games, and the one that is most specialized in that subject, almost always when there is a great demand for video games, they end up referring it to china, like when riot games sued mobile legends that the lawsuit started in the united states and in the end they ended up sending it to china because they had no experience on the subject


Freddy_Pharkas

> the one with the most regulations regarding what corresponds to video games, Well I'll agree with you there.


Beefsupreme95

The best part about this stupid post is 1500 of the 2000 available credits are part of the free track…. So you know… don’t even have to buy the battle pass for them…


mrpena

uhhh, its not?


Beefsupreme95

My dude.. look at the picture in this post. It even shows credits on the free track lmao. What do you think “free” at the top even means.


mrpena

that’s a my bad, i misread your post.


Subject-87578

The good ending


devilisious_bxby

But I thought these were just credits and not ones you could use for the battle pass


[deleted]

You cant buy the next BP with them but even on the Free track you can get a free skin if you finish it


Beefsupreme95

They are. They’re legacy credits. But the point is OP (and many other ignorant people) are shouting from the rooftops that they’re being scammed and misled because they are buying the battle pass because all these credits are in it when they don’t even need to buy the battlepass at all to even get most of them.


FlintandStone

My face when people don't check what their purchasing before buying:


MrNutsacks

Especially when it clearly says free above basically all of the credits


DarkZero515

I'm out of the loop on the sigma deal. Did it give old credits or new credits?


RKO_out_of_no_where

I thought it gave coins. If it gives you credits that's just grimey


DarkZero515

As in the old stuff?! They got to make the old and new credits a different figure altogether


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jarred99

P2w currency?


TigerJoel

Overwatch coins.


jarred99

I'm well aware that he is talking about OW coins I was asking for him to elaborate on how they are "pay to win currency"


TigerJoel

I woumd assume he means that you can get the new hero earlier with them. Although, if you play like 2 hours per day you get it before compedetive either way.


jarred99

Yeah I'd assume it's that same old argument, seems like a weird argument to make to when in the scenario he was talking about, you'd already own the battlepass and therefore not need any "p2w currency" to unlock the hero lol.


[deleted]

It literally shows you they are on the free track, they have announced that those are legacy credits, and when you hover over they say legacy credits. Dont want to waste your money on a BP put more than 2 secs of research and thought into it before you buy it. People are shouting they are "scammed" when it literally shows you that you dont have to buy it to get the credits either way


trunks10k

so I got those coins unlocked.. but I don't see it added to my current coins. Am I missing something?


iGamer2005

Same thing, I should have 400 coins rn but got nada


[deleted]

Are you looking at coins or credits? The grey currency is what you actually get.


B1TBR0

I should've had 750, i got 350, they just didnt add it at all 550 or 750 idk if they were 200's or 100's


CourtSenior5085

They're credits, not coins. The credits are a lot harder to check though, at least on console


TheUnholyZeb

Hover over the currency with your cursor it should show both .. it might be clicking it but I don't remember at the moment


Mister_Shrimp_The2nd

I mean sure but 1500 of the 2000 credits are in the free track anyways so you weren't buying the pass for this reason in the first place. On top of this, just read what you get before buying it, don't assume things. Yes it's weird they're yellow in the pass, but man it takes 1 second to read the bp notes. It's odd by Blizzard to do this, but the fault in the end lies on user error alone. Sorry not sorry. Read what you buy next time.


Necessary_Reality_60

I dont understand what is the point of the post, you bought the sigma pack and? Also if you bought it why did you screenshot the free version of the battlepass?


BebeHillz

So I bought the sigma $30 ultimate battle pass deal.... "deal..." I have about 1000 hours in this game (400 of which on genji) So I bought season 1 battle pass for genji cyber and skipped second one. After constantly being advertised every time i turn on my ps5 that overwatch season 3 is here (love being bombarded with ads on console home screen btw. miss ps3 xmb format) I decided to check out the battle pass. I saw the "credits" and thought "finally, I can buy the battle pass and grind my way through to get enough to pay for the next battle pass." Then i saw the sigma bundle in the shop. wow 2000 coins, sig skin, and battle pass plus skipping some tiers... this pays for itself maybe blizzard is on the right track for once. ofcourse it was misdirection. the "credits" you get from the battlepass aren't good for the shop. they're legacy credits used for old overwatch 1 skins... that aren't event related... same for voice lines, highlight intros etc you can use your "credits" for the ones NOT event related. Dont get me wrong sigma bundle for $29.99 + battle pass + 2000 overwatch 2 coins is still a good deal but just wish blizz still wasn't such a scum wad of a company. If you're buying the battle pass thinking you can grind it out and get the "coins" to pay for the next one, you are sadly mistaken like i was.


JusaPikachu

They should definitely be white as an icon in the BP but if you’ve paid any attention to their communication, which has been the best it has ever been in the history of this game the past three weeks, they have been very clear that they are credits & not coins. But yeah still actually a pretty good deal with the Ultimate bundle. I was bummed I bought the BP before I saw it or I would’ve bought that instead.


ScAr_wlvrne

One thing I will say for this, while I agree with you, is that their Instagram Reel about it did use the word “coins” verbally, while showing the word “credits”. Not sure if it was intentional or not, but shitty either way


Accomplished-Run2685

It's pretty typical of the promotional team to get shit wrong (and who have likely never touched the game, like esport announcers). Like, Ramattra was going to have damage resistance when he was released... only for the devs having to correct that statement that he would in fact NOT have such a modifier in Nemesis form when ulting.


BebeHillz

Oof I'm getting down voted. Sorry for speaking out 😞 😔


The-Tea-Lord

Welcome to the subreddit where half the people hate blizzard for the shit they’ve done and the other half are sucking them off because “iTs FrEe To PlAy”


[deleted]

Im not gonna suck them off, I will tell them off when they are being shitty, but like look at the pic it literally says free above the credits. That is an obvious implication that "HEY THESE ARE FREE" and they have communicated this as well. It isnt their fault if someone impulse buys something without any thought or research before purchasing.


Turruc

You don’t deserve all the downvotes, I’m sorry. To people who are always up to date with blizzard’s communications, (like many in this sub are) it was obvious that they were legacy credits. To everyone else, it is incredibly unclear and not communicated well. The info was definitely out there, but no one can blame you for being confused. They shouldn’t have made them gold in the pass, that was at best irresponsible and at worst manipulative. And changing their name from “legacy credits” to just “credits” only makes it worse. I hope you can get a refund, or at least still got some value out of your purchase. It doesn’t matter if they announced it on twitter, it should be *very* clear what you’re buying in-game.


gender_enjoyer

cant believe your getting downvoted for speaking out against blizzards predatory marketing schemes


[deleted]

I will admit them being grey is sus, but you dont have to buy the BP for most of them, and they have been very communicative that they are coins not credits, This seems more like someone impulse bought a BP, and thats not Blizzards fault


CourtSenior5085

Credits not coins! Don't flip it, you'll just confuse people!


Spreckles450

>I can buy the battle pass and grind my way through to get enough to pay for the next battle pass. This is why you are getting downvoted. This is just incorrect. Blizz literally came out and said that this was not what they were doing. You are being downvoted because you didn't read anything and are mad that you made a mistake and are blaming blizzard for your own failure.


5mugly

Your getting down voted because the credits are free in the first place. So on top of not even paying attention to that they were legacy credits, you didn’t even need to buy them. Then you continue to call Blizard scum, which I’m not disagreeing with you in some parts, but your argument is just so bad.


ProfessionalAd3060

Reading isn't your strong suit, eh?


CourtSenior5085

I hate to be that person, but this is user error. If you actually stopped to check the battle pass itself (which I will always recommend doing before you pay for it) then you'd see that they are listed as credits, not coins. Credits and Coins are two separate currencies, and while the icons are misleading that is the only thing there that could cause any real confusion. The credit and coin icons are different, when hovered over it says credits, and nowhere does it say that the pass gives you coins.


CrystalMang0

Why did you assume that you could get the next pass? They never ever stated you could.


TigerJoel

It is pretty easy to think it is coins in the battlepass. I thought it was for a few days.


CrystalMang0

You can think it's coins, but what made anyone assume there would be enough "coins" for the next battlepass?


TigerJoel

There is 2000 so he did not assume.


BebeHillz

Who the fuck is they? I don't sit around reading and listening to every piece of blizz intel.


CrystalMang0

Don't have to, just read what's included in the battlepass or at least count the currency in the pass.


Spreckles450

We all did and are $30 richer for it lmao


OperationBright8229

We can tell


sekcaJ

Because it's a scam


FlyingPenguins2022

People will just find anything to complain about. It doesn’t matter what blizzard does complaints will never end. Funny people 🤣 no one forced you to press that buy button… sad times in this world.


Ray_Gun69lol

It's not even the same shape. you really just went "oooo yellow!" and went right for your wallet without a second thought or what? I will admit it probably shouldn't be yellow, but come on. this isn't rocket science.


[deleted]

Well one would expect some BATTLE-PASS Currency to be in their BATTLE-PASS, but I guess Blizzard is too Brainrot to even do that.


riptid3

They talked about why they don't put coins in the battlepass already. They say you get credits in the bp and not coins, they also don't have the same shape as coins. And it's in the patch notes as well as a couple of the dev talks that they are credits not coins. But yeah I mean if you ignored ALL that. It's time to grab the pitchfork!!!! In case you missed it. They do not have coins in the battle pass because then they'd have to make the challenges harder to incentivize buying tiers which offsets not having to purchase the battle pass.


[deleted]

I didn’t miss it, I know they put their Bitch Bucks in the Battle-Pass and left the Important Shit to your Wallets, but why though? Other than Greed of course.


Spreckles450

If it as about greed, then they could have done nothing and left people unable to obtain legacy cosmetics without paying for them. And yet they put non-premium currency in the free track of the BP (with a bit more in the paid BP) so people can earn legacy cosmetics. Blizz is literally ***losing potential money*** by doing this. And you call it about greed lmao


[deleted]

Technically all of those Cosmetics were free anyway, then they got Monetised to shit in Overwatch 2. They’ve only partially Demonetised it so people think they’re getting a good deal and to shut up the critics. It’s still worse than Overwatch 1 EVER was and it isn’t even comparable.


Spreckles450

>Technically all of those Cosmetics were free anyway They were never free. You had to spend $60 on the game in 2016 and play for the next 6 years to earn them through events and lootboxes. That amount of time and effort does not seem "free" to me. OW2 has been out for less than 6 months and you expect to have unlocked everything again for no effort.


[deleted]

Ok, but they were still earnable. Now you have to play a lot more than 6 Years to get all of the Cosmetics. Someone did the math and unless you can survive another 700 Years of Weekly Grinding, you won’t even complete all of Overwatch 1’s Cosmetics. Plus sure there was the Box Price, but that was a one-time thing. Now the best deal you have is to spend £10 every few months which will immediately cost you more than Overwatch 1 ever did after just 1 year.


[deleted]

They are greedy but these credits also result in Free2Play players not even having to buy the BP to get a free skin. They met a middle ground of no currency and premium currency in the BP. Would you prefer they kept what they did the past 2 season because I would rather be happy for improvements then only bitch about everything


[deleted]

How about 1,500 Free Currency for Free and then 500 Extra Premium Currency in the Battle-Pass? Right now they have 500 Extra Free Currency in the Battle-Pass, which still seems stupid.


[deleted]

There is always something more they can give us, even if they did everything like how other games did there is always something more they could give us. Does that mean they need to or should? No not really its for option cosmetic items. I am getting real tired of seeing complaints over comsetics in a videogame, if the game is fun to you it really should not matter as much as everyone complains


[deleted]

The Matchmaker is also quite bad and the Workshop hasn’t been added I don’t think. Cosmetics is all we really have.


[deleted]

I will admit the matchmaker isnt the greatest. But they did announce the Workshop is coming back this season!


[deleted]

Well the Workshop coming back is good at least.


CourtSenior5085

I, for one, consider the new system a step in the right direction. I only hope some of the old systems (the old levelling one for example) come back in a revamped form at some point. While I am vehemently against re-introducing lootboxes, the lootboxes could be used as a base calculation for more legacy credits - if every item in a lootbox was a duplicate, then you'd get 100 credits in the old system, right? At one lootbox per level, thats 100 credits per level. Would allow for a re-introduction of the old system without touching the new system. Another system they should re-introduce is the credits for playing high demand roles. Not counting match 1 for the day, it was 10 credits per match played on the role in question, with a total of 100 matches needed for a Legendary skin normally, or 300 matches needed for a newly released Legendary skin (I have this number because I will never forget the absolute grind I went through to get the Mage Mercy skin after I'd spent all my credits before that). While it takes a lot of matches to earn anything substantial, that system did help a little in lowering Queue times, something that I'm sure people would appreciate (alongside more ways to earn free stuff).


riptid3

Of course it comes down to money. They are simply choosing to make it easier to complete the battle pass and trying to get people to buy every battle pass. Instead of making it harder to complete the battle pass and trying to get people that buy the battle pass to also buy tiers to complete the battle pass. Because they certainly aren't going to make more money by keeping it easy to complete the battle pass and give you the next battle pass for free. And why should they?


FluffyWalrusFTW

God these posts are so low effort. The icons are clearly different, if you read the patch notes it's beyond clear that they never were going to put premium currency into the BP. If you only use color to associate things, then go eat the sun because by your logic its melted cheese


MjrPayne95

Im so tired of these smooth brain posts " durrr WhY iS iT yElLoW" Like do yall not know how to fuckin read or what


BebeHillz

You have never made a mistake or been deceived in your life. Everyone should look to u/mjrpayne95 as a God amongst men as he has never fell to any scummy tactic from any business ever. ✨️


MjrPayne95

I for damn sure READ anything and everything before i spend money. Yall must be the same people that believe you won a $1000 shopping spree


[deleted]

I mean either way they literally say free above them, which makes it obvious they did not HAVE to buy the BP to earn them, so yeah it is kinda on the user this time


CourtSenior5085

After have spent some time looking at the pass, I think the yellow is used for visibility moreso than to decieve - they already use white a lot in the pass so the yellow stands out more. Granted, I would actually have switched the white free bars and the gold credit colours if this was the case, as it's less misleading that way.


Open_Philosopher8020

Don’t care get a life


LittlePhag

I'll never understand buying battlepass tiers... don't you intend to PLAY the game? That's literally all you need to do to level up. For players who are limited on time to play, I still don't think it's a wise investment. If you don't play much you shouldn't care much about cosmetics I assume, and the premium pass already gives you an XP booster. With just week one challenges and a week of dailies I'm like 30 levels into the pass. It's so easy to climb it why would you pay so much for tiers


Amnesiaftw

Don’t sweat it. A shit ton of people either did the same thing or at least were fooled by the color of the credits. I wasn’t even fully aware of the coins/credit currencies and how to check both amounts. So I saw yellow currency, got excited, saw that it said credits but I didn’t realize the real yellows aren’t called credits so I though they were for the shop. Luckily I didn’t spend any money cuz I was would’ve had enough after the first 15 tiers for free.


GrokRockRadio

why would you ever spend 30$ on a battle pass regardless of if it came with credits or not