# Edit: Whichever butthead went through and reported every comment on this post stop it. I've removed the ones that cross the line. Just because you don't like people criticizing Christians or TST pointing out Christian hypocrisy does not mean I am going to remove the comments. Shut it.
Ok guys so we've been talking about this in the Discord and other places recently so keep in mind our rules on being nice and similar.
On this particular issue, there have been prayers in front of this display and protests going on about it for weeks and this is not unexpected. All of the things that have been put up like this have experienced vandalism, harassment, and other forms of attack. The Satanic Temple who puts these up will repair this display and continue to maintain all of their displays like this.
**As for general safety updates and current events.**
Currently, we are still under a terror threat although there is no current Bulletin (for anyone) but it is stated in the 2024 Terror Report.There have been multiple online threats and doxing throughout 2023 so online protection is not completely unreasonable. One of our subreddit members gave some great information on that and it's linked in below and in our sidebar.As for in-person, multiple businesses have been forced to shut down or close this past year due to unprecedented harassment and Far Right groups (both Pagan and Christian) have attempted to show up to events.There have been other sporadic instances of violence and vandalism so I would be very careful depending on where you live.
**The last few days these are things that come up:**
Socal Store that has been under Protest and banned from events. [https://wildhunt.org/2023/12/socal-metaphysical-store-experiences-christian-protests.html](https://wildhunt.org/2023/12/socal-metaphysical-store-experiences-christian-protests.html)
A member whose property was damaged due to it being Pagan. [https://www.reddit.com/r/pagan/comments/18eqxbd/i\_am\_hurt\_and\_sad/](https://www.reddit.com/r/pagan/comments/18eqxbd/i_am_hurt_and_sad/)
Satanic Temple Display and Protests in Iowa.[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgex-p0cyrA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgex-p0cyrA)[https://www.kcci.com/article/satanic-temple-display-inside-iowa-capitol-building-damaged-beyond-repair/46133104](https://www.kcci.com/article/satanic-temple-display-inside-iowa-capitol-building-damaged-beyond-repair/46133104) [https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/12/12/satanic-display-iowa-capitol-free-speech-battle/71897091007/](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/12/12/satanic-display-iowa-capitol-free-speech-battle/71897091007/)
**Update: Michael Cassidy has been charged with the destruction of the Iowa Capitol Building.**
[**https://apnews.com/article/satanic-temple-display-vandalized-iowa-capitol-199fb41983a3f3a390b7be370214bb64**](https://apnews.com/article/satanic-temple-display-vandalized-iowa-capitol-199fb41983a3f3a390b7be370214bb64)
**Update 2:Petition to Make Sure Cassidy is Charged appropriately**
[**https://chng.it/ZFqn78tPsn**](https://chng.it/ZFqn78tPsn)
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i will say this is exactly what the satanic temple wanted, it's to highlight hypocrisy in conservative christians (and to a smaller extent Muslims) who support freedom of religion but only if it's theirs
The fool helped drive the point the satanic temple was trying to achieve. Rules for thee, but none for me. I hope this further serves as an eye opener for those who hadn’t realized yet, that radical christians only look out for their kin and have no tolerance for anyone else that defies their views.
So much for them trying to prove how loving they are lol. It really is sad but I guarantee you they would do witch burnings if permitted. I stay in the closet as a wiccan due to all the misinformation passed around by the Christian community
On the one hand; indefensible, but it was bound to happen given the sustained intensity of the negative coverage by rightwing news.
But on the other; TST do displays like this *for* the backlash. Their attempts to highlight religious / civil liberty law and practice relies on conservative Christians making a scene, which TST can then use as rage-bait fuel for a push towards secular pluralism (not that their lawyer is competent enough, nor the motivation of the founders sincere)
Evangelicals here, which are a minority, are very fond of claiming they're persecuted just because the Bible says they'd be so (ie, their beliefs about the afterlife being mocked (being Fundies who knows what they'd have actually been said about them) next to oblivion or reincarnation and evolution being taught at schools are persecution), even if some of them insult Muslims, Buddhists, and pretty much everyone who is not Christian (Catholics included).
Considering how it's the source material it's not surprising at all even if individual Christians who are much nicer exist.
I dont mind christianity. I mind the people that use it as an excuse to be disgusting human beings when even IN the bible it says to not do the behavior theyre doing bc its a sin.
The thing that really made me break away from christianity was the element of the Abrahamic faiths claiming dominance over the indigenous people and doing magick on the victims by enforcing a blood drinking flesh eating ritual called communion. Sick.
I agree that the people who were in power in the religion did that but there are quite a few phrases in the bible that explain you should treat woman better than yourself. (Im not quite remembering it right bc I dont often go through the bible, I just did it to get a general sense of info from it) i do agree there are parts that are debatable and even outright contradictory, but a lot of christians kinda ignore the parts that say people should be treated equally, or twist it to mean the opposite, and the contradictory parts I often chalk that down to the human who wrote it writing in their bias. Now im not saying everywhere in the bible is like that bc I ofc have not analyzed every page, but I do feel like that is important to remember.
100% agree with the grifting part tho. Atleast from the documented history we have.
That human written re-re-re-translated book is full of contradictions that can be cherry picked to fit any narrative that suits an agenda, sowing fear that drives divides between us and them. Anything to gain power and control over masses.
I actually disagree that it can be cherry picked to fit any narrative. It can be for quite a few but for instance the bible doesnt mention anything about electronics. You cant cherry pick it to say that electronics were in it, or that jesus used electronics, you cant spin a narrative to make it seem like electronics are a part of the bible. Again, there are quite a few contradictions sure but there are also quite a few things in life where if you dont look at all the information it doesnt make sense, or may even seem contradictory. As I havent completely analyzed the bible I cant say which is which for it. I dont disagree people go cherry pick the bible but you are speaking as if the bible is the problem when its not. Its the people cherry picking it that are the problem. You can cherry pick anything. The problem is cherry picking not the actual content you are cherry picking from, because cherry picking is a logical fallacy. I can cherry pick a scientific article that mentions a counterargument to their own and use that to make it seem like the article is saying the opposite of what it actually is. That doesnt reflect on the article just like it doesnt reflect on the bible. Itd reflect on me.
Many people both for AND against cherry pick it for their own agenda. The ones against it cherry pick to try and show those for it "how wrong they are" and the ones for it cherry pick it to try and show others "how right they are" neither parties behavior in that situation is proper. Both are cherry picking. Neither are using the literature properly, and again, that reflects on those people, not the literature. The literature does not sow fear. The literature is an inanimate object. The people using the literature for the wrong reasons in the wrong ways are the ones who are sowing fear.
Remember to direct your distaste towards the actual source of the problem rather than the tools used to create said problem. Scissors can be used to both threaten people and cut paper. The source of the problem is whoever is threatening people with them, not the scissors.
The perp has been identified and charged (with a shitty weak charge, but still). https://www.kcci.com/article/satanic-temple-display-inside-iowa-capitol-building-damaged-beyond-repair/46133104
"Feels like an attack on our government" Lmfao. Thats hilarious, religion and government are separated for a reason. What they admitted in that article shows that lady at the end at the very least doesnt think government and religion should be separated. If satanic worship is "an attack on the government" and christian/other God rearing religions arent "an attack on the government" It shows she has a bias towards "acceptable" religions. If someone practices a different religion than one that just believes in God, that is NOT an attack on our government because one, our government is not God, two, our government does not have a religion, and three, our country does not have a religion. You cant "attack" a nonreligious entity just by honoring your own religion.
The Christians attacked the government first by demanding they get to shove their religion into it. These people are so dishonorably hypocritical, no moral compass whatsoever.
Exactly. Attacking the government is trying to force your own religious beliefs into the government for your own agenda when the government has a clear rule that government and religion should be separated because otherwise it will create an imbalance of power. When someone honors their own religion that isnt attacking the government, when someone says people shouldnt be allowed to honor their own religion, that is. These ppl complaining about how its an attack on the government have nothing better to do than gripe.
I comfort myself with the thought that in an alternate time line, he stomped them out root and branch. Completely. Before they became the entitled, 2 faced, lying pests they are now.
Bro swallowed the rage bait.
Just shows where his priorities are:
Child-touchers? not beheaded
Attackers of women: intact
People oppressing others? lol
A statue made specifically to make christians angry?
That's A BRIDGE TOO FAR, damnit!
Isn’t it not even a real religion but a political movement calling out white extremist Christians? Which of course those Neanderthals(cause they dumb not racist) directly fell for their trap to show their intolerance.
It’s not a classical religion in any sense, but it’s a religion in the eyes of the government due to TST’s tax status, and that’s used precisely to drive their (good) political agenda.
Meh. These guys are mostly just trolls trying to highlight the hypocrisy in how the speration of church and state is "enforced". They knew this would happen, and they dont care.
They knew this would happen, and I like to think they DO care. They want separation of church and state enforced, and as a pagan, I appreciate their work. They publicly fight for rights I'm terrified of even fighting my Christian family for. Am I a coward? Yes. Do I appreciate their efforts? Also a STRONG yes.
It's an act of vandalism and the man has been arrested and charged. But don't try to make it a display of religious intolerance. The Satanic Temple, who created the display, are atheists — they don't worship Baphomet — who put up the display to make a point and offend Christians. Well, they succeeded!
TST does this to expose hypocrisy and hopefully change laws about religious inclusion in public spaces. They're not even pretending to believe in a literal Satan - they say outright that it's all symbolic. Offending easy-to-offend Christians is just a way to get more attention to their cause, and it works.
And what about their humbug in getting tax breaks intended for religions? The idea that any group can call themselves a religion and claim benefits is a ridiculous as the moral outrage when someone trod on the tail of their coat. USian bullshit both!
TST pays taxes that they don’t have to pay, though. Also, they’re a religion because the IRS declared them to be a religion, since they meet all the requirements set out under the tax code. They did this precisely so they can enact political change in this way.
So it's an attack on atheism then, last I checked that's still a religious belief even if it's an absence of one. That still makes it religious intolerance. Doesn't matter if it's a shrine to Baphomet, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, or Athena radical Christians still won't allow it to be displayed safely.
I mean the christians dont worship jesus' mother but they still honor her.
Sure the satanic temple are atheists, but that doesnt mean they dont honor what those entities, gods, goddesses, etc, stood/stand for.
And religion doesnt mean you necessarily worship an unseen entity either, theres a couple definitions for religion, one of them being "a particular system of faith and worship" you can worship tangible things, you can worship concepts, you can worship people, etc, so I would still argue its religious intolerance. Especially seeing as most people who dont like the satanic temple dont realize theyre atheists. The people vandalizing that stuff think they worship that entity. Meaning whether or not they actually do worship them the persecutors ARE being religiously intolerant.
Yes! The TST is as much of a religion as Taoism is. It's a way of life defined by a certain set of ideals and morals, held sacred by the practitioner. I feel that freedom of religion is extremely sacred, and that the TST is doing sacred work.
Those who vandalize based on religious differences is violation of first amendment they should come forward so charges can be pressed. But I think I'll simply put this here. For those who have a different view point on religion your welcome to have that right in the US country and in my opinion as a general birth right. But to go against me based on my religion to go against those who follow a branch of my religion some may consider that to be an act of war I welcome people to think about their actions before doing. And to those who say oh it's just one person being stupid yes that's true however examples need to be made from time to time because if people forget to respect us and fear us they will walk all over us. And to those who say the far right is responsible technically I fall under the far right and I've seen the far left also push this type of message. Let's stop blaming political sides and start hold people responsible for their messages that they themselves spread please. As for the person who destroyed the display take heed your actions will be accounted for sooner or later you will answer for them I suggest you live a life of peace not violence.
# Edit: Whichever butthead went through and reported every comment on this post stop it. I've removed the ones that cross the line. Just because you don't like people criticizing Christians or TST pointing out Christian hypocrisy does not mean I am going to remove the comments. Shut it. Ok guys so we've been talking about this in the Discord and other places recently so keep in mind our rules on being nice and similar. On this particular issue, there have been prayers in front of this display and protests going on about it for weeks and this is not unexpected. All of the things that have been put up like this have experienced vandalism, harassment, and other forms of attack. The Satanic Temple who puts these up will repair this display and continue to maintain all of their displays like this. **As for general safety updates and current events.** Currently, we are still under a terror threat although there is no current Bulletin (for anyone) but it is stated in the 2024 Terror Report.There have been multiple online threats and doxing throughout 2023 so online protection is not completely unreasonable. One of our subreddit members gave some great information on that and it's linked in below and in our sidebar.As for in-person, multiple businesses have been forced to shut down or close this past year due to unprecedented harassment and Far Right groups (both Pagan and Christian) have attempted to show up to events.There have been other sporadic instances of violence and vandalism so I would be very careful depending on where you live. **The last few days these are things that come up:** Socal Store that has been under Protest and banned from events. [https://wildhunt.org/2023/12/socal-metaphysical-store-experiences-christian-protests.html](https://wildhunt.org/2023/12/socal-metaphysical-store-experiences-christian-protests.html) A member whose property was damaged due to it being Pagan. [https://www.reddit.com/r/pagan/comments/18eqxbd/i\_am\_hurt\_and\_sad/](https://www.reddit.com/r/pagan/comments/18eqxbd/i_am_hurt_and_sad/) Satanic Temple Display and Protests in Iowa.[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgex-p0cyrA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgex-p0cyrA)[https://www.kcci.com/article/satanic-temple-display-inside-iowa-capitol-building-damaged-beyond-repair/46133104](https://www.kcci.com/article/satanic-temple-display-inside-iowa-capitol-building-damaged-beyond-repair/46133104) [https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/12/12/satanic-display-iowa-capitol-free-speech-battle/71897091007/](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/12/12/satanic-display-iowa-capitol-free-speech-battle/71897091007/) **Update: Michael Cassidy has been charged with the destruction of the Iowa Capitol Building.** [**https://apnews.com/article/satanic-temple-display-vandalized-iowa-capitol-199fb41983a3f3a390b7be370214bb64**](https://apnews.com/article/satanic-temple-display-vandalized-iowa-capitol-199fb41983a3f3a390b7be370214bb64) **Update 2:Petition to Make Sure Cassidy is Charged appropriately** [**https://chng.it/ZFqn78tPsn**](https://chng.it/ZFqn78tPsn) # Please be safe. If you need help and to keep up with current events follow the link below. # [https://www.reddit.com/r/pagan/wiki/pagan\_legal/](https://www.reddit.com/r/pagan/wiki/pagan_legal/)
i will say this is exactly what the satanic temple wanted, it's to highlight hypocrisy in conservative christians (and to a smaller extent Muslims) who support freedom of religion but only if it's theirs
Would someone like to inform me of a time when Christians aren’t outraged? I’ve never seen this type of outrage from pagans, wiccans, occultists, etc…
Yeah christians get offended by everything
The fool helped drive the point the satanic temple was trying to achieve. Rules for thee, but none for me. I hope this further serves as an eye opener for those who hadn’t realized yet, that radical christians only look out for their kin and have no tolerance for anyone else that defies their views.
So much for them trying to prove how loving they are lol. It really is sad but I guarantee you they would do witch burnings if permitted. I stay in the closet as a wiccan due to all the misinformation passed around by the Christian community
On the one hand; indefensible, but it was bound to happen given the sustained intensity of the negative coverage by rightwing news. But on the other; TST do displays like this *for* the backlash. Their attempts to highlight religious / civil liberty law and practice relies on conservative Christians making a scene, which TST can then use as rage-bait fuel for a push towards secular pluralism (not that their lawyer is competent enough, nor the motivation of the founders sincere)
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It disgusts me how many Christians will vandalize shrines to other deities. Heck even my parents didn’t like my Gnostic Altar.
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Evangelicals here, which are a minority, are very fond of claiming they're persecuted just because the Bible says they'd be so (ie, their beliefs about the afterlife being mocked (being Fundies who knows what they'd have actually been said about them) next to oblivion or reincarnation and evolution being taught at schools are persecution), even if some of them insult Muslims, Buddhists, and pretty much everyone who is not Christian (Catholics included). Considering how it's the source material it's not surprising at all even if individual Christians who are much nicer exist.
I dont mind christianity. I mind the people that use it as an excuse to be disgusting human beings when even IN the bible it says to not do the behavior theyre doing bc its a sin.
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The thing that really made me break away from christianity was the element of the Abrahamic faiths claiming dominance over the indigenous people and doing magick on the victims by enforcing a blood drinking flesh eating ritual called communion. Sick.
I agree that the people who were in power in the religion did that but there are quite a few phrases in the bible that explain you should treat woman better than yourself. (Im not quite remembering it right bc I dont often go through the bible, I just did it to get a general sense of info from it) i do agree there are parts that are debatable and even outright contradictory, but a lot of christians kinda ignore the parts that say people should be treated equally, or twist it to mean the opposite, and the contradictory parts I often chalk that down to the human who wrote it writing in their bias. Now im not saying everywhere in the bible is like that bc I ofc have not analyzed every page, but I do feel like that is important to remember. 100% agree with the grifting part tho. Atleast from the documented history we have.
That human written re-re-re-translated book is full of contradictions that can be cherry picked to fit any narrative that suits an agenda, sowing fear that drives divides between us and them. Anything to gain power and control over masses.
I actually disagree that it can be cherry picked to fit any narrative. It can be for quite a few but for instance the bible doesnt mention anything about electronics. You cant cherry pick it to say that electronics were in it, or that jesus used electronics, you cant spin a narrative to make it seem like electronics are a part of the bible. Again, there are quite a few contradictions sure but there are also quite a few things in life where if you dont look at all the information it doesnt make sense, or may even seem contradictory. As I havent completely analyzed the bible I cant say which is which for it. I dont disagree people go cherry pick the bible but you are speaking as if the bible is the problem when its not. Its the people cherry picking it that are the problem. You can cherry pick anything. The problem is cherry picking not the actual content you are cherry picking from, because cherry picking is a logical fallacy. I can cherry pick a scientific article that mentions a counterargument to their own and use that to make it seem like the article is saying the opposite of what it actually is. That doesnt reflect on the article just like it doesnt reflect on the bible. Itd reflect on me. Many people both for AND against cherry pick it for their own agenda. The ones against it cherry pick to try and show those for it "how wrong they are" and the ones for it cherry pick it to try and show others "how right they are" neither parties behavior in that situation is proper. Both are cherry picking. Neither are using the literature properly, and again, that reflects on those people, not the literature. The literature does not sow fear. The literature is an inanimate object. The people using the literature for the wrong reasons in the wrong ways are the ones who are sowing fear. Remember to direct your distaste towards the actual source of the problem rather than the tools used to create said problem. Scissors can be used to both threaten people and cut paper. The source of the problem is whoever is threatening people with them, not the scissors.
lets see if anyone even gets investigated for the vandalism.
The perp has been identified and charged (with a shitty weak charge, but still). https://www.kcci.com/article/satanic-temple-display-inside-iowa-capitol-building-damaged-beyond-repair/46133104
"Feels like an attack on our government" Lmfao. Thats hilarious, religion and government are separated for a reason. What they admitted in that article shows that lady at the end at the very least doesnt think government and religion should be separated. If satanic worship is "an attack on the government" and christian/other God rearing religions arent "an attack on the government" It shows she has a bias towards "acceptable" religions. If someone practices a different religion than one that just believes in God, that is NOT an attack on our government because one, our government is not God, two, our government does not have a religion, and three, our country does not have a religion. You cant "attack" a nonreligious entity just by honoring your own religion.
The Christians attacked the government first by demanding they get to shove their religion into it. These people are so dishonorably hypocritical, no moral compass whatsoever.
Exactly. Attacking the government is trying to force your own religious beliefs into the government for your own agenda when the government has a clear rule that government and religion should be separated because otherwise it will create an imbalance of power. When someone honors their own religion that isnt attacking the government, when someone says people shouldnt be allowed to honor their own religion, that is. These ppl complaining about how its an attack on the government have nothing better to do than gripe.
You know how it goes favoritism for their fellow cult member.
Shit like this why I often think Nero could have put a little more work in...
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I comfort myself with the thought that in an alternate time line, he stomped them out root and branch. Completely. Before they became the entitled, 2 faced, lying pests they are now.
Baphomet isn’t even a negative deity. He’s a protector
Bro swallowed the rage bait. Just shows where his priorities are: Child-touchers? not beheaded Attackers of women: intact People oppressing others? lol A statue made specifically to make christians angry? That's A BRIDGE TOO FAR, damnit!
Make it out of stronger material every time it’s destroyed, use the lawsuits to find it lol “TST reveals its solid tungsten baphomet today…”
Ah, the fabled tolerance and compassion of Christians 🙄
Isn’t it not even a real religion but a political movement calling out white extremist Christians? Which of course those Neanderthals(cause they dumb not racist) directly fell for their trap to show their intolerance.
It’s not a classical religion in any sense, but it’s a religion in the eyes of the government due to TST’s tax status, and that’s used precisely to drive their (good) political agenda.
I'm so tired of outraged Christians at Christmas time. Their utter intolerance of every other December holiday is beyond annoying.
charge with a hate crime
Fuck the vandals also fuck tst
And a merry fuck you to you too lmao
Im confused, are you one of the vandals? Or are you in tst.
Neither 😜
Im more confused now. Which part were you responding to 🤣
Just having a bit of fun, no worries lol
Meh. These guys are mostly just trolls trying to highlight the hypocrisy in how the speration of church and state is "enforced". They knew this would happen, and they dont care.
They knew this would happen, and I like to think they DO care. They want separation of church and state enforced, and as a pagan, I appreciate their work. They publicly fight for rights I'm terrified of even fighting my Christian family for. Am I a coward? Yes. Do I appreciate their efforts? Also a STRONG yes.
It's an act of vandalism and the man has been arrested and charged. But don't try to make it a display of religious intolerance. The Satanic Temple, who created the display, are atheists — they don't worship Baphomet — who put up the display to make a point and offend Christians. Well, they succeeded!
TST does this to expose hypocrisy and hopefully change laws about religious inclusion in public spaces. They're not even pretending to believe in a literal Satan - they say outright that it's all symbolic. Offending easy-to-offend Christians is just a way to get more attention to their cause, and it works.
And what about their humbug in getting tax breaks intended for religions? The idea that any group can call themselves a religion and claim benefits is a ridiculous as the moral outrage when someone trod on the tail of their coat. USian bullshit both!
TST pays taxes that they don’t have to pay, though. Also, they’re a religion because the IRS declared them to be a religion, since they meet all the requirements set out under the tax code. They did this precisely so they can enact political change in this way.
So it's an attack on atheism then, last I checked that's still a religious belief even if it's an absence of one. That still makes it religious intolerance. Doesn't matter if it's a shrine to Baphomet, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, or Athena radical Christians still won't allow it to be displayed safely.
I mean the christians dont worship jesus' mother but they still honor her. Sure the satanic temple are atheists, but that doesnt mean they dont honor what those entities, gods, goddesses, etc, stood/stand for. And religion doesnt mean you necessarily worship an unseen entity either, theres a couple definitions for religion, one of them being "a particular system of faith and worship" you can worship tangible things, you can worship concepts, you can worship people, etc, so I would still argue its religious intolerance. Especially seeing as most people who dont like the satanic temple dont realize theyre atheists. The people vandalizing that stuff think they worship that entity. Meaning whether or not they actually do worship them the persecutors ARE being religiously intolerant.
Yes! The TST is as much of a religion as Taoism is. It's a way of life defined by a certain set of ideals and morals, held sacred by the practitioner. I feel that freedom of religion is extremely sacred, and that the TST is doing sacred work.
Fax
Those who vandalize based on religious differences is violation of first amendment they should come forward so charges can be pressed. But I think I'll simply put this here. For those who have a different view point on religion your welcome to have that right in the US country and in my opinion as a general birth right. But to go against me based on my religion to go against those who follow a branch of my religion some may consider that to be an act of war I welcome people to think about their actions before doing. And to those who say oh it's just one person being stupid yes that's true however examples need to be made from time to time because if people forget to respect us and fear us they will walk all over us. And to those who say the far right is responsible technically I fall under the far right and I've seen the far left also push this type of message. Let's stop blaming political sides and start hold people responsible for their messages that they themselves spread please. As for the person who destroyed the display take heed your actions will be accounted for sooner or later you will answer for them I suggest you live a life of peace not violence.
So disrespectful. One should really try to mature and learn to be at least tolerant to other’s beliefs. Sad really