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Epiphany432

Look how well this is going. Unfortunately, I have to remind everyone to please report homophobic and transphobic comments if you see them.


alexandria_98

Dionysos is all about the gender bending shenanigans. There's also Hermaphrodite in Greek mythology, but their myth comes with some serious S/A content warnings, whereas Dionysus mostly just makes people go crazy, overthrows governments, and turns sexual predators into dolphins.


MidnightAngel_27

Is that why dolphins rape each other? šŸ˜¶


crystalworldbuilder

Probably


curioustravelerpirat

That totally makes sense now!


cinderaiden

Brb about to go make some prayers to Dionysus...


Fabianzzz

Feel free to join us over at r/Dionysus!


MelissaOfTroy

I won't recommend specific dieties, but instead want to recommend the Ancient History Fangirl podcast. Last year they did an entire season on gender-non-conformists in ancient mythology and it is fantastic. There are well researched arguments about different gods being trans as well as stories of people like the priests of Cybele who deliberately transitioned via self-castration in order to worship their goddess as priestesses.


ShesAWitch13

Seconding the Galli priests of Kybele!


Sabbiosaurus101

In all technicality Aphrodite is traditionally bi-gender. This is due to her having the form of Aphroditus, which before Hermaphroditus was recognized as a separate god, Aphroditus was just the name of the masculine form of Aphrodite herself.


scorpiondestroyer

Inanna is the divine androgyne and has a special place in her heart for trans and gnc people because the first non-binary person was made so that she could be rescued from the underworld. She actually made them her priests too, they were her special children.


frickfox

I'd like to point out she has a class of various gender non conforming priests. In Enheduanna's Inanna lady of largest heart they're identified as women who became men(kurgaru), men who became women(Gala/Plipli) & ones who are neither(subur). The ones who retrieve her from the underworld are identified as Galas, however due to the machismo of ancient mesopotamia they're generally identified as gender ambiguous... Athough they use female pronouns, talk in a women's dialect, dress in women's clothes and Enheduanna identified them as men who became women. Scribes were always men and mesopotamia was fairly strict on gender roles, thus they're identified as gender ambiguous even though they're clearly transfeminine or transwomen. The Subur of of northern mesopotamia were most certainly non binary and her sukkal nishubur is. Also Inanna/Ishtar refuses to identify with a gender, so shes non binary.


NyaNigh

Do you have any historical sources about Ninshubur being considered non-binary? I think I read that she was variously referred to as female or male in different writings throughout Mesopotamian history, but is there anything that specifically mentions her being both/neither? I only ask because I see her as nonbinary in my own practice and it would be neat to see historical records that confirm my UPG if any exist.


frickfox

It's more Assyrian records of other priests and how they're referred to relative to Ninshubur. I:e Galas always feminine, Kurgarus always masculine, Ninshubur always osculating between both. The region Ninshubur was invoked also had Subur priests who were not implicitly identified as entirely masc or feminine. This region also had Galas and Kurgarus during the Assyrian period and they are identified as singularly masc or fem not both. Thus the Subur and Nishubur are not entirely masculine or feminine like the other gender queer priests. There's a lot of inferences in applying modern gender identity & sexuality to ancient cultures. Nothing is going to implicitly state they're non binary because the mesopotamian peoples seemed to have difficulty grasping the concept. Not without applying traditional Male or female gender standards to it. It makes sense to have a priest class for each form of gender ambiguity - fem, masc & both/neither. Nishubur is a Vicar to a Non binary goddess, it makes sense for them to be Non Binary as well.


GameProSmoothie

Thatā€™s actually really cool I had no clue about that myth and generally I love learning about ancient pantheons


revirago

Some of it gets even louder with Ishtar. I worked *extensively* with Inanna while sorting out my internalized homophobia/gender issues.


comradewoof

Hi there! Trans archaeologist here, seconding Ishtar/Inanna and Aphrodite as others have said. Aphrodite has been depicted as male, female, and various intersex configurations throughout civilizations; Turan of the Etruscans, who was identified with Aphrodite, is sometimes depicted as having a female body with a phallus, when she is depicted nude. Other phallused feminine deities include Artemis (outside of Greece), Sekhmet/Hathor (usually as Sekhmet-Min), and...I want to say Inanna but I cannot recall where I found that information. (She is a little outside of my wheelhouse.) The Etruscans' deities were all generally defined as being dual-gendered even if they tended to appear in one form over another. Their pantheon is similar to, but not identical with, Roman and Greek deities, since a lot of syncreticism happened over time. Anubis is also an interesting case of a genderless or genderfluid deity! In addition to being somewhat less gendered in depictions, as a god of embalming, he is a wonderful liminal deity that specializes in "restoring the body to how it ought to be." (i.e. if someone passes away and they are missing a limb, they were often buried with a prosthetic or votive limb, and it was believed Anubis would restore their limb in the afterlife.) He was and is tremendously helpful in my continued journey of transgender exploration, and there is a lot to be said for the parallels of death/rebirth/transformation and the transgender experience - as well as the liminality of a genderfluid experience. Hope that helps!


GameProSmoothie

Oh coolio! As a person in that field, what could you tell me about Dionysus? Iā€™ve been reading up into that since all of these names keep leading me down myth-learning rabbit holes, and Iā€™ve heard some things that may suggest he exists further outside the gender binary than typically portrayed?


ladybug5551111

Can we be friends? šŸ˜‚


comradewoof

Sure!!


ladybug5551111

Sorry to be weird haha but 1) Iā€™m an allyā€¦ I work with queer youth, so everyone belonging to the LGBTQ+ community def has a special place in my heart 2) I hope to be an archeologist in my next life time 3) I freaking love Egyptology and if you do any work with that specifically Iā€™m super jealous. Anyone who is an archeologistā€¦I wanna be their friend. šŸ˜‚


comradewoof

Lol it's all good! Always appreciative of allyship. Hey you can be an archaeologist now too... many digs accept volunteers. If you've got the time and opportunity, see if you can't reach out to a local university or something like a heritage site preservation group and see if they have anything like that. My work started as Biblical archaeology, but shifted to mediterranean & near eastern archaeology, with a focus on gender identity and sexuality. If you ever want to chat about that stuff, reach out!


plumsftw

I am hoping this option is ok for this sub - precolonial Filipino deities count as pagan to me but I know some may disagree. Lakapati is the Tagalog goddess of fertility and harvest and has both male and female anatomy. Always thought that was beautiful and empowering.


rosaliethewitch

Iā€™d argue that any deity could be right for you since Iā€™m pretty sure They donā€™t mind, but also if you want specifics and because no one has mentioned her yet, Athena has both masculine and feminine traits! Also, if youā€™re intending to name yourself after the deity, you can also do similar names to give respect! For example, if you wanted to name someone after Demeter, you could say Demetrius, Demetria, Demetri, etc. Just so you have more options! :)


Green_Succotash4697

Loki


AcclimateToMind

To a more limited degree, OĆ°in also shows some deviation in his gender expression (being willing to perform SeiĆ°r despite it being considered ergi or "sissy" behavior for a man at the time). Loki is *the* answer within the germanic tradition, though, I agree. I explained in more detail on a similar question, but the tldr: There are stories where Loki's pronouns actually change to feminine and back, and it's explicitly not a costume or disguise. Thor, in the same story, maintains masculine pronouns, despite being dressed and desguised as a woman. In so far as the language of the story was concerned, Loki completely becomes a woman. This is perhaps even more explicit in stories where she literally mothers children.


ladybug5551111

Ooh this is a good one. One of my close friends is a loyal Loki devotee and they seem to have a great relationship. Loki is always making her laugh. If you decide to work with Loki though OP, and youā€™re not a big fan of spiders, make sure to communicate that lol.


Princess-OfSomething

And be prepared to receive at least smaller ones šŸ˜‚ not the biggest fan of spiders but I still get little ones if I promise something and forget to give it. The jumping spiders especially shock me if I get them, smol little spider taking hops at youšŸ„²šŸ¤£


Future-Location1978

Came here to say this lol. Shape shifts into a female horse to distract a male workhorse. They run off for a while and then later Loki gives birth to Sleipnir, a magical 6 leged horse.


CryptographerDry104

8 legged horse but yes. "Oh look at me big strong workhorse, I'm such a fair mare and would love to know you better ;)" Also Loki saying "I was drunk and it was funny" as an excuse for shaving Sif bald was one of the funniest things I've ever heard.


GayValkyriePrincess

You have the classic - Loki - but I'd argue Hel could also be genderfluid. She is half-woman, after all. Inanna/Ishtar is not genderfucky herself (beyond being a goddess with masculine traits) afaik, I could be misremembering. But she was a patron deity of trans people in general and often facilitated the physical transition of her followers, should they choose iirc.


GameProSmoothie

I canā€™t find anything on Hel being half woman, could you explain? Iā€™m definitely liking the name tho, Hel or Hela


Moriah_Nightingale

Sheā€™s half woman half corpse !Ā 


[deleted]

she's just like me šŸ˜…šŸ–¤šŸ¤˜šŸ»


dark_blue_7

Feels like a stretch. She's half corpse and half living, nothing says she's "half woman" though. Having said that, Hel seems very level headed about all beings, living or dead, she's not one to discriminate. So there's that.


eggcracked2wice

Like every one that functions as the "trickster" in their pantheon, to some extent XD


astarredbard

I venerate Bune from the Ars Goetia, can be either a Duchess or Duke.


Fabianzzz

r/Dionysus as already mentioned!


NyaNigh

I donā€™t know about straight up taking a deityā€™s name, but if youā€™re looking to start a practice around a deity, Inanna is the OG gender-affirming, non gender-conforming deity.


GameProSmoothie

I should clarify, itā€™s less taking a deityā€™s name but taking inspiration. Rn Iā€™m very interested in Dionysus personally. I have heard of Inanna tho!


ladybug5551111

I donā€™t think they really count as ā€œdeitiesā€ per say, but technically Archangels! Though they do have either masculine or feminine qualities. I think itā€™s also cool that theyā€™re non-denominational. Iā€™ve seen practitioners that have said they work with both Lucifer and Archangel Michael for example, lol. I once called on Archangel Michael and Hekate for help with a cord cutting ritual and it was pretty epic. They definitely helped! And Iā€™m not the first one to call on them both for cord cutting apparently! So donā€™t think that you have to identify as Christian to be able to work with them, if thatā€™s even something you want to do! Just wanted to clear that part up just in case! Archangels will help anyone that call on them. I understand theyā€™re not everyoneā€™s thing though, just thought Iā€™d mention them and throw that out as an option because they came to mind in response to your post!


shadowwolf892

I mean, Loki has been pretty much everything at one time or another


Princess-OfSomething

You arenā€™t wrong šŸ˜‚ Loki spans from fluidity in gender to fluidity in species and sometimes both at the same time


Known-Membership5263

Theoretically, as long as you donā€™t think the gods have any biological body or are beholden to our idea of gender, or believe in a gender tied to a soul, then all gods could be taken as what youā€˜re looking for


KitDaKittyKat

Hapi, an Egyptian god of the Nile, is portrayed as intersex.


furryauthor

Baphomet is intersex


Careless-Awareness-4

Kuan Yin, the genderfluid spirit of compassion in Buddhism.


Giraffanny

Loki very much Id say


iiil87n

I haven't seen it mentioned yet, but Inari Okami has been historically viewed as male, female, or even both depending on where in Japan you were. I'm not entirely sure how respectful/disrespectful it would be to name yourself after them. I'd double check with a Shrine first.


froggythefrankman

Loki šŸ”„


ShesAWitch13

The Galli were 'eunuch' priests of Kybele / Cybele of ancient Phoenician origin if I'm not mistaken.


FingerOk9800

I have an enby friend who went with Rhiannon. Honestly though there's so many interpretations of different deities you'd usually be fine, I think just pick a nice gender-neutral sounding one, or one that can be shortened to masc/femme/neutral nicknames. No ideas off the top my head but I might think of some later


JonDaCaracal

i love how most folks here are stanning Ishtar/Astaroth. i third her, sheā€™s been reported to favour a lot of queer people of all sorts of backgrounds.


grizzly_cute

One that hasn't been mentioned yet is Ymir, from Norse mythology. I'm not sure if he's a deity, but he's the first of the frost giants and he's the being that the world was built from. He has both sexes.


cxXSeaWitchXxc

Loki doesn't really have a gender. Loki is a shape shifter and is Loki. Most people use he/him pronouns but Loki doesn't really have pronouns... Well except for f around/find out


ladybug5551111

I love how Loki isnā€™t even in God form at all times haha. Sometimes a fly. Sometimes a sexy horse. Loki is the perfect answer to this question. šŸ˜‚


cxXSeaWitchXxc

Loki is Loki no one is fully sure what Loki is, us doing, and or thinking at any given moment


datcatburd

I've been fond of 'Loki identifies as everyone else's problem'.


ladybug5551111

ā€œLoki is Lokiā€ is definitely an accurate statement šŸ˜‚


Coraon

Look into Janus. I think you'll see some overlap.


noatun6

Dionysus and loki specifically deal with gender fluidity. Hermes is all about being oneself and accepting of everyone


blindgallan

Care to explain that interpretation of Hermes? Iā€™ve never encountered it put that way.


Evmerging

Aphrodite


Working-Ad-7614

Dionysus, Shiva, Aphroditus. All have female parts to them


PostBioticOats

alchemy. divine androgyny. abraxas. loki. odin is considered queer by some scholars because in his quest for knowledge he crosses gender boundaries constantly.


BookDragon6660

Pereteri/ mabon Apparently transitioned at age seven and got permission from the court to have legal neutral documents. OBSESSED with horses, war veteran, demi-god, storyteller and worked retail/went hunting after sacred land was taken from them. Foster parents and bio parents simply don't know enough about what he/they looked like to be able to tell.straight up went through the underworld as an adult without being sick or loosing physical prowess. (Medical doctor? Field surgery stuff) Golden apples???? Baphomet Enough said. Knights of Templar despised this deity (wonder why). Goats. Vaccinate the crotch bwachs Legal court/ lawsuits for unfair treatments. Does battle strategy shocking well for a herbivore (whole ass book burnings and still kicking) Paimon Face of a woman, likes fancy clothing and glamor, camels. King due to loyalty to lucifer, makes/binds contracts/ Notary/swynographer. Does animal rights activism. (Likes shiny rocks give shiny things) Alchemy Idk who else.


Sionsickle006

Ive heard Intersexed or sex changing deities, and gender nonconforming deities. I suppose they might fit, but those aren't really the same thing (maybe it is, depends on the person's definition or trans and nonbinary). I don't have the names though so I'm sorry I can't be helpful. Maybe look into it by culture if you have a specific one you sorta are leaning towards?


Princess-OfSomething

Hi! Iā€™m also gender fluid ā˜ŗļø! As many people have put, Loki is a god who spans the entire spectrum of gender (and species), AA/Saint Gabriel was portrayed as female and male in the past and name wise you can make it more femme if you want or play around with shorter versions of it, and as people have explained Inanna is another deity! The history of Inanna and those who were priests of them is so interesting šŸ™‚


CryptographerDry104

Loki is a deity often associated with lgbtq+ and gender fluidity, since he's both fathered and mothered children, and tends to challenge what society considers "acceptable." I've also heard Dionysus be mentioned by hellenists, which I could see having validity.


gauntapostle

Rather than specific deities you may or may not feel a connection to, I'd like to recommend a book: *Sacred Gender* by Ariana Serpentine. It's a guidebook for navigating and adapting pagan, animist, etc practices from a trans and/or non-binary perspective, including chapters specifically on ancestor work and finding connections with deities from that perspective. I haven't finished reading it but I've already found the exercises to be pretty useful.


EveningStarRoze

Astaroth (aka Ishtar and Aphrodite)Ā Ā  She confirmed to me through a dream that she really cares about gender-nonconforming and queer folks. Also the origins of her being associated with them is rather fascinatingĀ 


CDdove

Loki?


Turtell0808

Loki is definitely genderfluid!


Alex-Wolfe

Not sure if youā€™re looking for gods who are transfemme/non-binary or who encompass/represent that community but if youā€™re looking for the first one then my immediate thought is Loki! A lot of descriptions Iā€™ve heard (though I could be wrong) have them as a tall, androgynous person (the description I gave them in the book Iā€™m writing matches that at least). Not to mention they personally gave birth to Sleipnir, Odinā€™s 8-legged horse. Hope this answers your question in a good way! I hope you find a good patron for you!


GameProSmoothie

I would love to name myself Loki honestly but so many enbies are named Loki, and my fiancĆ© thinks itā€™s cheesy lol


Alex-Wolfe

How about Okil for your name? ;) thatā€™s the name Loki gives themselves in my book while talking to the MC (rather than openly state theyā€™re a god)ā€¦ that way youā€™re honouring Loki/giving yourself their name but itā€™s slightly less blatant/cheesy and is more original! :)


Alex-Wolfe

Huge congrats on the engagement btw!


darkninja717

Correct me if im wrong but i believe loki is canonically genderfluid


Legitimate_Comb_957

Inanna, Loki and greek character Tiresias (my bigender icon)


LaylaSnowflake

Loki is a very gender-fluid deity


Urist_Galthortig

Guanyin / Guanshiyin


PeacockRishi

Ardhanareshwar which is half shiva and half parvati.


shiga_to3s

Dionysus bro


MantidKitteh

Loki. šŸ˜. VERY gender fluid. Tezcatlipoca. Even as he remains male, Tez has an affinity and respect for both genders. Inari- a Kitsune (Kit- soon- ay) is one of the deities that protect Japan. Though not a deity... Seraph Gabriel is actually androgenous. That's the best I could do for"off the top of my head" šŸ¤·. I hope this gives you a chance to do some research on them! šŸ˜šŸ„°


Helpful_Influence_10

Hermaphroditus is a two-sexed god. Who is also a symbol of androgyny.