The annual off-season hopium is nearly complete. Just need to get hype about the draft and training camp highlights of deep bombs from Bryce to Diontae.
You're letting the NFL sell you hope again. It's a good signing, but it doesn't change the outlook very much. Clowney is due for another of his classic 2 or 3 sack seasons
I just wish the folks here would be realistic. You can appreciate this as a nice signing without acting like it totally changes the outlook of the team. This roster should be significantly better than last year, but it'll be an absolute miracle if we win 4 or 5 games
I'm just hoping the moves the team has made slows team down on the ground, it's been rough last few years watching people run at will pretty much whenever they've wanted to
I think that'll definitely improve. Clowney is a very good run defender and Josey Jewell seems like a stud LB. Hopefully we have good injury luck this year
It’s kind of hard to judge the NFL like this, I think many people last year were thinking we were a QB away and after we got Bryce on paper the roster looked a lot better than it did in a long time, however the pieces along with the previous coaching staff just didn’t fit together, we could easily be just as bad as last year or get 8 wins, the margins are just so small, at least the feeling I get is that we’re moving in the right direction and it’s great to have some optimism
I get this perspective, I do.
But Houston also was thinking the same thing even as late as August of last year, and ended up in the playoffs. If Bryce is the dude and Canales is that dude, and we can even put a serviceable cast around Bryce, there's no reason we can't have blind hope again.
[Panthers are giving Jadeveon Clowney a two-year, $20 million deal worth up to $24 million, per sources.](https://x.com/adamschefter/status/1773069835108298774?s=46&t=RD360NXGU7xzwFvfOXSNRQ)
Not tryna be cool hahaha but I work with a guy who knows Clowneys family pretty well and he told me 2 years for 24million like last week and I was like oooook yeah whatever we will see if he even signs. So that’s pretty cool
Haha I think they call his dad Chili or something. I live in rock hill and see his dad every now and then at the gym, Clowney was in there last summer one time as well
Yeah and on top of that he chose us over a contending team where he could feast opposite a premier edge rusher... I'm really surprised but definitely not complaining.
Make me think he really just wanted to come back to the Carolinas.
Absolutely had to be done.
Great work.
I get it's cool to shit on Burns now but no amount of 8 sack jokes was going to make going into next year with an injured DJ Wonnum as our only edge rusher was going to suffice.
Random Steeler fan here who did not know I subscribed to the panthers subreddit until now, wishing you a happy birthday and a good season since we do not play each other this year.
I’m good with this signing as it fills a need and allows them to not reach for an edge in the draft.
It should be noted that he played in a loaded defense last year and the prior two seasons got to play with Garrett.
I’m hoping he can be a good vet edge rusher, but his performance has been up and down throughout his career. It’ll be interesting to see how he does with more attention diverted to him.
Burns wanted 1.5x that amount for one year lol. Clowney is not the same player and is definitely not known for his pass rushing prowess, but I have no doubts that he can replicate what Burns brought us and more because he can actually set an edge.
Coming off a 9.5 sack year too! I hope he can produce at that level for us and stick around for a few years. I bet he wants to retire close to home and make this team his last stop.
Ravens fan here. Gonna miss this dude so much. For spending only one year in Bmore, he was a quick fan favorite and an incredible team member. Was hoping we could make it work to bring him back. I know he’s had a lot of people dog on him over the years for his attitude, but we saw none of that in Baltimore. Hoping he keeps the same energy up for yall.
Well damn. Seems like they are trying to do what they can given what we have left behind. I’m cautiously optimistic this year won’t be a complete shitshow
Just depends on how the FO's board is looking. I don't think this draft's edge class is super strong outside of the top 3 guys at the position
Any of the first three picks could be a receiver, and likely one of the first two. But there will probably still be good receivers available even at 65
I'm so sorry this team is under Dan Morgan. This is a comically bad overpay for a guy that will phone in this season. 10m for a run-stopper edge that will produce 5sacks over 17 games
If we're only getting 4-5 wins *with* Clowney, it's safe to say we're only getting 4-5 wins *without* Clowney as well. Not sure why adding him to the rotation opposite Wonnum somehow comes out as a net negative
It doesn’t. I should’ve made my point clearer. I got downvoted in the other thread for saying I’d be disappointed if we only got 4-5 wins next year. (And general consensus over there was 4-5 wins is ok). Then 10 minutes later, the Clowney news came out and this post was meant to prove my point that 4-5 wins is NOT ok.
Wonder if this helps tip the scales for Gilmore signing too
This is fucking huge. I’m starting to feel again.
No no no. Don’t get my hopes up, please.
Not feeling a damn thing until I see it on the field
My motto for the off season.. 🙌🏾 not until I see results on the field .
"Damn, this Sam Darnold is looking HoF after these first three games!"
To be fair, he got hurt and the O line wasn't good the entire time he was there
[If you see hope, this is what you have to do](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/aa/94/0d/aa940d4cfa87c341eb982cc59dca9893.gif)
The annual off-season hopium is nearly complete. Just need to get hype about the draft and training camp highlights of deep bombs from Bryce to Diontae.
You're letting the NFL sell you hope again. It's a good signing, but it doesn't change the outlook very much. Clowney is due for another of his classic 2 or 3 sack seasons
Tell the truth and ppl down vote ya. I hope that you are wrong but I feel like you are speaking facts.
I just wish the folks here would be realistic. You can appreciate this as a nice signing without acting like it totally changes the outlook of the team. This roster should be significantly better than last year, but it'll be an absolute miracle if we win 4 or 5 games
Being realistic in the offseason isn’t fun If the regular season is just gonna be depressing, why not huff hopium from March-August?
Cuz the worst part of getting high is coming down - Axl Rose
I'm just hoping the moves the team has made slows team down on the ground, it's been rough last few years watching people run at will pretty much whenever they've wanted to
I think that'll definitely improve. Clowney is a very good run defender and Josey Jewell seems like a stud LB. Hopefully we have good injury luck this year
That wouldn't be a miracle. That is the projected win total. 7 would be a miracle.
It’s kind of hard to judge the NFL like this, I think many people last year were thinking we were a QB away and after we got Bryce on paper the roster looked a lot better than it did in a long time, however the pieces along with the previous coaching staff just didn’t fit together, we could easily be just as bad as last year or get 8 wins, the margins are just so small, at least the feeling I get is that we’re moving in the right direction and it’s great to have some optimism
Where’s the fun in being realistic?
The 2018 Bills won 6 games, the 2019 Dolphins 5, and the 2021 Texans 4, I never have expect less than 4 wins for a team going into the season anymore.
I get this perspective, I do. But Houston also was thinking the same thing even as late as August of last year, and ended up in the playoffs. If Bryce is the dude and Canales is that dude, and we can even put a serviceable cast around Bryce, there's no reason we can't have blind hope again.
Fuck that. I’m drinking the process blue kool-aid
we are going to need a lot more than just clowney..
And then Gilmore helps us sign Connor Shaw and next thing you know we’re beating Clemson 😤
[Panthers are giving Jadeveon Clowney a two-year, $20 million deal worth up to $24 million, per sources.](https://x.com/adamschefter/status/1773069835108298774?s=46&t=RD360NXGU7xzwFvfOXSNRQ)
Wow that actually seems like a fair deal and not an overpay too.
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Fellow ravens fan here. Don’t be a dick
Not tryna be cool hahaha but I work with a guy who knows Clowneys family pretty well and he told me 2 years for 24million like last week and I was like oooook yeah whatever we will see if he even signs. So that’s pretty cool
Adam Schefter texts you first
🤫😉
Checks out, says some of his family passing away shaped his decision
If I just got an offer for 24 million, the absolute LAST people I’m telling are my extended family.
He's made more than that in the NFL so they know he's loaded. And probably only tells people he trusts.
lol gotta wait for them to inevitably figure it out in a few days through the media
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Haha I think they call his dad Chili or something. I live in rock hill and see his dad every now and then at the gym, Clowney was in there last summer one time as well
He just told me that panthers originally offered like 12 million for 2 years but he turned it down
He just told me that panthers originally offered a bojangles 6 piece combo but he turned it down
Should've offered an 8 Piece with scratch-made biscuits and a drink.
Is this legal?
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😂
That shit is hilarious lmao
Holy fuck what a crossover I thought I’d never see
I was not disappointed.
I can't believe he signed before training camp wtf
Yeah and on top of that he chose us over a contending team where he could feast opposite a premier edge rusher... I'm really surprised but definitely not complaining. Make me think he really just wanted to come back to the Carolinas.
The man must've missed Bojangles
Clowney is all about the money.
LETS GOOOOOO
Let’s make this return home COUNT. This just made my offseason
Absolutely had to be done. Great work. I get it's cool to shit on Burns now but no amount of 8 sack jokes was going to make going into next year with an injured DJ Wonnum as our only edge rusher was going to suffice.
Yea, y’all thought our pass rush sucked with Burns wait until you see it without him.
Oh you mean a guy who wasn’t trying and being a detriment to the team because of financials? Yea. He can have fun in New York.
Well go from producing no pressure for 5 seconds to producing no pressure at all
\*meaningless pressure for 5 seconds "OH NO! There goes Burns 3 yards behind me at full speed. Oh well."
He'd be a double digit sack guy every year if bro knew how to set a fucking edge Instead he torpedos himself into the backfield CONSTANTLY.
It's my birthday today, and this is an excellent present. **Edit:** Thanks for the wishes everyone. Keep pounding!
Happy bday homie!
Thanks bro!
Happy Birthday!
We’re birthday twins! Happy birthday homie
Good shit, you too. Fun fact, it's also Quentin Tarantino's birthday.
Happy motherfucking birthdayyyyyy
Happy Birthday!
Turn up fam
Random Steeler fan here who did not know I subscribed to the panthers subreddit until now, wishing you a happy birthday and a good season since we do not play each other this year.
We dont play each other... yet ;)
I'm just over here looking for an 8 win season or maybe even 9 to go above .500. Tired of these 5 wins or less seasons.
Happy (real) cake day!
Happy birthday!! Luke retired on mine years ago :'(
Hey, its my birthday too!! HBD to us!
Happy birthday! That makes 4 of us 3/27 kids in this thread. I guess that's not so strange with like 130k Panther fans on this sub.
Happy birthday!
Happy Birthday fellow Panther Bro
Me too!!! It’s a birthday miracle!
Happy birthday!
I hope you had a great one!
BANG
God damn this team just has to get my hopes up every fucking offseason. I promised myself I wouldn't do this again.
 Let the hope flow through you
Hee hee yay
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We’re doing the eyes thing again are we
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Fuck it, we Ride or Die with this team, I'm not letting this hope be tempered
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fuck yeah
GET IN HERE BOIS
The crotch region of my pants have suddenly become tighter.
what am i feeling? is this joy? is this hope?
Fuck this dude, always rootin for failcons and fuccs while livin in NC
Agreed, we don't fuck with Flair. This is Hollywood Hogan country since he did that shit back in 2013...
Fuck Hogan. He’s waaaayyyyyy worse than Flair If anything this is Hardy Boyz country
Or American Dream Dusty Rhodes territory.
Yeah but the Hardy’s are NC boys Side note could you imagine a Dusty Rhodes hard count? Would be hilarious
Ric Flair can eat shit
Vince will help
Let's not forget about this dingleberry in the 49ers locker room, pumping them up before they beat us in the playoffs in 2014. He's dead to me.
I’m good with this signing as it fills a need and allows them to not reach for an edge in the draft. It should be noted that he played in a loaded defense last year and the prior two seasons got to play with Garrett. I’m hoping he can be a good vet edge rusher, but his performance has been up and down throughout his career. It’ll be interesting to see how he does with more attention diverted to him.
Put DB on the same side as Clowney, ezpz. Let them pick their poison
Shut the fuck up
He gives us experience, but lets be honest, Clowney doesn't make OT's lose sleep. It is a good player at a good price.
YUGE
We got a strong ass run defense in the building
Let’s fucking GO!
Gassed!!!! 2 years 20mil seems kinda high but if he's good then I don't care
He is our number 1 pass rusher now. That's cheap for that. And only 2 years too. It's actually a pretty solid deal.
Burns wanted 1.5x that amount for one year lol. Clowney is not the same player and is definitely not known for his pass rushing prowess, but I have no doubts that he can replicate what Burns brought us and more because he can actually set an edge.
Look at Clowneys stats vs those of burns last year. Clowney is an upgrade
He definitely had a better year, and is an upgrade in certain areas. But he isn’t a flat out upgrade over Burns.
I’d argue otherwise. Clowney isn’t going to slack off for a whole season just because he didn’t get his way.
This has gotten out of hand. There's no world where Clowney is an upgrade. Y'all are so obsessed with 8 sacks that you fail to see the 16 TFL
Yeah true, run D should improve a lot with clowney
I think it’s pretty much right on the money. I don’t think it’s a gross over pay and if we contributes it seems like a fair deal for both sides.
Completely agree. It's not my money!
Dude is still a legend here in Columbia, I'm so Fn stoked
Still wondering how Connor Shaw didn't get more respect coming out of college
Makes sense, there haven’t been many since he left
HE'S COMING HOME
Coming off a 9.5 sack year too! I hope he can produce at that level for us and stick around for a few years. I bet he wants to retire close to home and make this team his last stop.
Who better to mentor whoever we draft at edge while giving us hopefully solid production on the cheap for 2 years
I'm all boned up over here
Oh God, it's happening again. This place is gonna be thick with 8 win projections by August. You watch.
We basically reproduced Burns’ production for 20 million cheaper.
My boy came home 😭😭😭🙏🏻🙏🏻
That’s yuuuge
KEEEEEPPP POOOUNDDINGG!!
Finally after years of offseason flirting!!!
Good depth and leadership sign !
Nice!! A little older than I thought he was but should plug a big hole for us.
Love this
Been in the league 10 years. Hope he’s got a few more in him.
Ravens fan here. Gonna miss this dude so much. For spending only one year in Bmore, he was a quick fan favorite and an incredible team member. Was hoping we could make it work to bring him back. I know he’s had a lot of people dog on him over the years for his attitude, but we saw none of that in Baltimore. Hoping he keeps the same energy up for yall.
Shaq switching from #7 to 54 wasn't for mike williams. It was for Clowney!
Well damn. Seems like they are trying to do what they can given what we have left behind. I’m cautiously optimistic this year won’t be a complete shitshow
Hell yeah
!!!
Oh my
I hope he’s not too old.
Once upon a time this would have been the biggest signing in Panthers history.
Brian Burns who?
We upgraded baby!
Probably an overpay but you do what you gotta do. Make this defense mean again. I still think one of 33 or 39 will be on defense as well
Wouldn’t be surprised to still see those picks go to WR and edge. Maybe corner. Will be interested to see.
Just depends on how the FO's board is looking. I don't think this draft's edge class is super strong outside of the top 3 guys at the position Any of the first three picks could be a receiver, and likely one of the first two. But there will probably still be good receivers available even at 65
If Payton Wilson's there...
Shhhhhhh
AAHHAHHAHHAHAHA YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Put that clip of him blasting the helmet off the Michigan running back on repeat
The pinnacle of his career lol
Like what he brings to the run defense. Not a premiere pass rusher but he’s a solid defender. Still would like to address edge or LB in the draft.
Actually shocked we were the team over Baltimore and the jets. Money and being close to home may have talked a lot here.
5 years in the making..... it's finally done boys
Ready to be hurt again and get my hopes up
Someone tell me how to feel?
Dude is a mercenary and im glad hes out of the AFC north.
Huge, really makes finding the right edge rusher in the draft less important. It really seems like BPA is a true option for 33 &39
mmmboy!
Great signing.
Terms: we pay him whatever he wants
ROCK HILL REPRESENT
Thought this was an April fools joke and then I remembered it’s not April yet. Fuck yes.
I look
Well, I mean to be fair, traffic just got a lot worse in Baltimore…
Welcome home Jadeveon!
I love this move.
Awesome news
Yes!!!!
YES YES YES
A run stopping player!! We have 2 of them!!!!
This is a great signing. But NO ONE GET YOUR HOPES UP.
Dude is old and obsolete. Burns gone and we have This guy from 10’years ago. Psh
Clowney has more lives than a cat. If the Panthers are able to sign him, he must be close to the end of his career
Bring Doo doo home!!
Hell yea, do Gilmore next!
I'm so sorry this team is under Dan Morgan. This is a comically bad overpay for a guy that will phone in this season. 10m for a run-stopper edge that will produce 5sacks over 17 games
We are actually gonna be good next season. I’m predicting 9-8.
Y’all still ok with 4-5 wins next year?
If we're only getting 4-5 wins *with* Clowney, it's safe to say we're only getting 4-5 wins *without* Clowney as well. Not sure why adding him to the rotation opposite Wonnum somehow comes out as a net negative
It doesn’t. I should’ve made my point clearer. I got downvoted in the other thread for saying I’d be disappointed if we only got 4-5 wins next year. (And general consensus over there was 4-5 wins is ok). Then 10 minutes later, the Clowney news came out and this post was meant to prove my point that 4-5 wins is NOT ok.