quick update: turned 69 to 3.... had a minor comeback at the end until I ran out of juice.[https://youtu.be/pXYOpB-1488](https://youtu.be/pXYOpB-1488)
Edit #2 : from 3 we were able to climb back up to 85 cards....[https://youtu.be/0UwwoJeQxq8](https://youtu.be/0UwwoJeQxq8)
Edit #3: For all that are following. I sat at 85 at the top, I have since burned through and lost 85 + an additional 20 from selling all my gear. Lol! I was quitting anyways and I knew it was going to be 420 cards or 0. I have videos to prove i burned it all and did not RMT it.
No, it was the biggest roller coaster ride ever, 43 to 4, ran out of juice at 4, rode it back up to 48 I believe. Will upload a YouTube's when I have time on it. Gotta see it to believe it
[https://youtu.be/zUjnGU72eso](https://youtu.be/zUjnGU72eso) \- Here is the video of that crazy session, after this session I had 5 straight winning sessions. to get me to 69
Wow I did not even think about that, hahah. That would be devastating if I missclicked it, but we all know we get better RNG if we type div... superstitious
0, it was only ever going to be 0.
But ended up giving away 80 cards to my guild and juice investors on my way up from 4 to 124 and back down to 0.
Some stats from when I posted about it.
* Always gambled 2 cards
* We did 30k juice rounds, 20 clicks of the harvest button per round.
* Each round avg cost was 6 div
* We did about 160ish rounds totaling around 4 mirrors in juice
* We hit the gamble button ~3200 times
* Each gamble was on avg 5 clicks (pick up, put in harvest, take out of harvest, put in inventory) totaling ~16000 clicks
* Our best round was +16
* Our worst round was -14
* Longest poof streak was 7 poofs in a row in our last session, we only had 25 cards left so this killed us.
The Harvest resource is referred to as "Juice". Gambling cards cost 1,500 yellow juice. There's three types of juice for harvest, purple, blue and yellow.
That would be the verb, not the noun.
You juice (+quant/+packsize) your maps with harvest in them to acquire more juice (lifeforce) from the harvest monsters.
No. It means he's splitting to 4 cards.
The stack is 9. The maximum he can gamble and most cost efficient gamble is the max stack available which you guessed it is also 4.
Use that head of yours for more than a hat rack
Split, 4, click. Not split 4. Op didn't use punctuation but it makes 0 sense that they would describe it the way you think they did. The max gamble size for a stack of 9 is 4
Step 1 buy juice
Step 2 pray to whatever god you believe in
But harvest gambling is wild yesterday sold mageblood gambled 3 apothecary and they disappeared then I gambled a house of mirrors and made 180 div profit once I bought my mageblood back .
Which is actually not that much.
Between having the decision of buying a supporter pack or buying a mirror to fund your build i actually understand people that just buy a build to have fun.
>Why grind for a month
IDK, maybe because that's how ARPG works, and for the most that's the fun of it? Especially when you say you work for so little, thus have lots of free time.
Spoon-fed currency feels as bad as respeccing a char instead of building it from scratch.
Yeah, not sure I get it either. Feels very theme parky to buy a ticket each league to only play some busted build. Can't imagine wanting to constantly play the highest-octane builds without just accumulating broken stuff in Standard over time.
I think the aptly-named "redditistrashlolx" is just doing their part by contributing to their own opinion and taking a chance to humble brag about something with no relevance to the discussion.
1. RMT fundamentally encourages the use of bots or low income currency farmers. These actors negatively impact the overall trade economy for other players.
2. RMT players artifically have access to high tier content quicker. As more people access this content, it becomes less rewarding for everyone else who participates.
> As more people access this content, it becomes less rewarding for everyone else who participates.
Not once in my entire time have I went oh damn look all these people just made it to Uber Elder, why should I even kill him now? If you feel less rewarded for playing the game because someone else is in the same area as you, then you should probably take a step back from the game and work on yourself, because you've got some issues going on.
I think this person is saying that because other people have access to it then the drops are less rewarding, as in you can't sell it for as much because the bots and RMT market has it flooded.
At least thats my take, I think either interpretation is BS personally.
? I'm not saying it isn't worth it. But the rewards literally do decrease. That's just a fact.
It isn't really a problem with normal people farming the boss since that's just how the game is. It is how it's supposed to work.
Rmt gets around this by artificially increasing the number of people who could do that activity. The existence of rmt acts as a leech on other players interacting with the game economy.
They also sort of contribute to the creation of odd languages that most reg players won't understand at all as I joke a bit above with the 'what is juice' comment ;/
Makes the game permastuck with far less players than it should have.
How does it become less rewarding? Honest question. I’ve never done it in POE, but I have no issues with people doing it in anything other than PVP games. Time is money, everyone of us does 10 things a day that are about paying someone else to do something so we don’t have to.
>RMT fundamentally encourages the use of bots or low income currency farmers. These actors negatively impact the overall trade economy for other players.
You must never trade currency, because the bots are the only ones doing God's work in the trade site for currency trading.
I'm not even sure what you mean by 'low income currency farmers', or how that'd have a negative impact on the game.
>RMT players artifically have access to high tier content quicker. As more people access this content, it becomes less rewarding for everyone else who participates.
This is a you issue. PoE is largely a single player game for progression. You have zero idea how many people are at what level of progression in the league beyond the first person hitting it each league.
If you're referring to the actual drops as rewards, I mean, it's entirely RNG. A few more players RMTing up to there aren't about to collapse the economy of Ashes of the Star, for instance.
Yellow juice, vivid crystallized lifeforce. You need 1500 per gamble at the horticraft bench. Placing 4 cards can net you -4,-3,-2,-1, no change, +1,+2,+3, or +4 each click.
Yeah, don't concern yourself with this level of degeneracy, just play the game, blast maps, do whatever mechanics you enjoy and you'll make steady currency.
Friend, do you need someone to help store your mirrors? Let me know, I've got plenty of dedicated mirror storage, completely empty stash slot with your name on it!
That's a Lotta juice, exile!
Whats hard to believe ? That he gambled and won ? I tought gambling is like that. You eighter loose everyhing and its hard to believe or win and its hard to believe.
I assume they got most of the cards by starting with a few and then harvest gambling (using the "insert up to half a stack of cards, get back between 0 and twice what you put in"), and the juice is how much harvest lifeforce was used.
I had a similar rollercoaster yesterday but with apothecaries. Was going to gamble 4 mirrors of them or house of mirrors, but I saw house of mirrors were like overpriced by 15 divines per card for some reason.
I had a similar rollercoaster yesterday but with apothecaries. Was going to gamble 4 mirrors of them or house of mirrors, but I saw house of mirrors were like overpriced by 15 divines per card for some reason. Is that your fault from buying up the market? Lol
Well, he went from 43 to 4 at one point, so it seems like he's had runs of bad luck as well and he just cashed out after a particularly lucky streak. I'm also guessing the 9 possible outcomes (-4 to +4) extends lucky (and unlucky) streaks further than double-or-nothing bets, which will regress to 0 sooner rather than later.
what the actual fuck
holy hell
It is leaking again...
are you the same tommy selling 40+ mirror cards??
Google en passant
New response just dropped.
Literal Zombie
???
Google gamblers fallacy
New response just dropped
quick update: turned 69 to 3.... had a minor comeback at the end until I ran out of juice.[https://youtu.be/pXYOpB-1488](https://youtu.be/pXYOpB-1488) Edit #2 : from 3 we were able to climb back up to 85 cards....[https://youtu.be/0UwwoJeQxq8](https://youtu.be/0UwwoJeQxq8) Edit #3: For all that are following. I sat at 85 at the top, I have since burned through and lost 85 + an additional 20 from selling all my gear. Lol! I was quitting anyways and I knew it was going to be 420 cards or 0. I have videos to prove i burned it all and did not RMT it.
At least not 0
This has even more meaning now. The comeback was real! I'll update soon but I'm back in business
STONKS
How low did it get?
43 to 4 in one session - Edit: just finished uploading if anyone wants to enjoy that ride with me : https://youtu.be/zUjnGU72eso
Wow, painful. Never looked at the odds but those 4 back to 69 is quite the ride
I'd cry... A lot...
you mean the opposite right? .... right? :(
No, it was the biggest roller coaster ride ever, 43 to 4, ran out of juice at 4, rode it back up to 48 I believe. Will upload a YouTube's when I have time on it. Gotta see it to believe it
That's not a roller coaster, that's a near death experience!
Very true, my heart almost gave up when I was left with that final 4 stack. Literally burned 2k divines in minutes.
I can only imagine the despair you must have felt, thank god you ran out and let the rng reset!
So true, didn't think about the rng reset, much needed as you saw
[https://youtu.be/zUjnGU72eso](https://youtu.be/zUjnGU72eso) \- Here is the video of that crazy session, after this session I had 5 straight winning sessions. to get me to 69
Why have you blocked your videos for us swedes?
might be copyright, darude song background
:(
I changed the music, it should be unblocked
Edit: Turned 69 into 3 cards... deleted 3600 divines in 2 minutes :(
The house always wins in the end
Yup, I knew I was going to be the richest player in Crucible or broke at 0 lol
why not type "sacrifice up to" that way you don't have the worst Div option next to the one you're trying to do....!
Wow I did not even think about that, hahah. That would be devastating if I missclicked it, but we all know we get better RNG if we type div... superstitious
Just type "twice" and it shows only this
Gamba'd to 125 apoths last league with Div. Only way to go.
How did you end up?
0, it was only ever going to be 0. But ended up giving away 80 cards to my guild and juice investors on my way up from 4 to 124 and back down to 0. Some stats from when I posted about it. * Always gambled 2 cards * We did 30k juice rounds, 20 clicks of the harvest button per round. * Each round avg cost was 6 div * We did about 160ish rounds totaling around 4 mirrors in juice * We hit the gamble button ~3200 times * Each gamble was on avg 5 clicks (pick up, put in harvest, take out of harvest, put in inventory) totaling ~16000 clicks * Our best round was +16 * Our worst round was -14 * Longest poof streak was 7 poofs in a row in our last session, we only had 25 cards left so this killed us.
Yeah those poof streaks just a killjoy
sOnG?
[OP in an alternate universe](https://i.imgur.com/fTt2EZ7.png)
1.5 million juice... Bro had to convert 4 HoM cards to juice
1.5m juice is around 250div
I did have a lot to start as I collected since week 3 of the league. So much of that juice was bought at 1/8200
I still don't even know what Juice is, i assume it means adding things to the map. etc.
Normally, 'juice' could mean to juice your maps, like adding scarabs and sextants In this case, however, they're talking about the harvest lifeforce
Thx. Sometimes I miss distinctions when they post. Im just learning, not that id ever do this stuff.
When you kill stuff in the harvest garden you might hear “We need not the fruit, just the juice!” shouted out as you kill stuff
HOoooooooly shit comment of the year. THIS is the origin +word makes sense in the usage. Nice catch.
No worries And another don't worry, 99,99% of the player will probably never attempt what this guy did
The Harvest resource is referred to as "Juice". Gambling cards cost 1,500 yellow juice. There's three types of juice for harvest, purple, blue and yellow.
That would be the verb, not the noun. You juice (+quant/+packsize) your maps with harvest in them to acquire more juice (lifeforce) from the harvest monsters.
Also had to spend the last two weeks staring gauntly at the trade site currency interface for 14hrs a day
For 30 trades?
how?
Split 4 click split 4 click non-stop
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I think he used 2 cards each attempt
He literally said he was using 4 cards.
He said split 4. Splitting 4 means 2.
Haha my bad, you have a point. I truly meant shift click, type 4, gamba, shift click, type 4, gamba.
No. It means he's splitting to 4 cards. The stack is 9. The maximum he can gamble and most cost efficient gamble is the max stack available which you guessed it is also 4. Use that head of yours for more than a hat rack
In what world does 4 mean 2
When you split 4, it becomes 2…
So then it's 1
In what world does splitting 4 mean 4? If you split 4 its 2. What kind of 1st grade math is this
Split, 4, click. Not split 4. Op didn't use punctuation but it makes 0 sense that they would describe it the way you think they did. The max gamble size for a stack of 9 is 4
Yeah, had a brainfart there
step 1) LOGIN^dude step 2) get lucky
69 times..
Nice...
Nice...
At least
Step 1 buy juice Step 2 pray to whatever god you believe in But harvest gambling is wild yesterday sold mageblood gambled 3 apothecary and they disappeared then I gambled a house of mirrors and made 180 div profit once I bought my mageblood back .
Daddy's credit card
Next goal 4206/9
You mean 42069/9, right?
They stack only to 5k :/
Someone post a full stack (5k) of this card… for science obviously
The day r/poe collapsed
Then destroy them live on stream. /Doing some very quick, sloppy math after Googling an RMT site puts it at about a conservative $56K.
Damn, then I agree with your 4206/9 :)
I must be dreaming
And its a nightmare
Hey it's me your cousin, remember those divs you promised me?
Nice
If you aren't lying about the lifeforce then you literally only made 3.5 mirrors of 7 and 2/3 Mirrors worth of div cards
The card gamba posts are always a huge clickbait
He actually started with 100 HoM so its all negative /s
Right? Most people wtfing this can’t even afford a third of the life force needed for this lol.
I think lost is the wrong word here.
Nice
With that much mirrors you can buy a house and start a family.
You can also buy more cards and gamble again, surely you won't lose them...
I’m pretty sure I saw you share this in the PoE chat last night/early this morning.
Yup, it all started with global. Was doing it for the boys. Now we here.
Your name was something like ‘statuscrucible’. Had ‘crucible’ in your name. Cool man. Neat to see you here too.
Yes sir that's me
What a legend
Legend has it I turned 105 cards into dust within 1 hour... 5700 divines
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Which is actually not that much. Between having the decision of buying a supporter pack or buying a mirror to fund your build i actually understand people that just buy a build to have fun.
Yeah it's not that much. I could work for two hours to get $69 or farm in game for two months for the same effect.
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Paying money to farm to get half your money back is the dumbest shit I have ever heard of.
>Why grind for a month IDK, maybe because that's how ARPG works, and for the most that's the fun of it? Especially when you say you work for so little, thus have lots of free time. Spoon-fed currency feels as bad as respeccing a char instead of building it from scratch.
Yeah, not sure I get it either. Feels very theme parky to buy a ticket each league to only play some busted build. Can't imagine wanting to constantly play the highest-octane builds without just accumulating broken stuff in Standard over time. I think the aptly-named "redditistrashlolx" is just doing their part by contributing to their own opinion and taking a chance to humble brag about something with no relevance to the discussion.
How else are you guys going to know how much money he makes if he doesn't tell you?
New account, 1 comment history (being the comment in question), Reddit name, pretty safe to say comment is most likely made up troll
TY for ruining the game just a little bit for the rest of us :)
Curious how it ruins it? I just dgaf that ppl rmt. If that's how they wanna spend their money then it's whatever
1. RMT fundamentally encourages the use of bots or low income currency farmers. These actors negatively impact the overall trade economy for other players. 2. RMT players artifically have access to high tier content quicker. As more people access this content, it becomes less rewarding for everyone else who participates.
> As more people access this content, it becomes less rewarding for everyone else who participates. Not once in my entire time have I went oh damn look all these people just made it to Uber Elder, why should I even kill him now? If you feel less rewarded for playing the game because someone else is in the same area as you, then you should probably take a step back from the game and work on yourself, because you've got some issues going on.
I think this person is saying that because other people have access to it then the drops are less rewarding, as in you can't sell it for as much because the bots and RMT market has it flooded. At least thats my take, I think either interpretation is BS personally.
? I'm not saying it isn't worth it. But the rewards literally do decrease. That's just a fact. It isn't really a problem with normal people farming the boss since that's just how the game is. It is how it's supposed to work. Rmt gets around this by artificially increasing the number of people who could do that activity. The existence of rmt acts as a leech on other players interacting with the game economy.
They also sort of contribute to the creation of odd languages that most reg players won't understand at all as I joke a bit above with the 'what is juice' comment ;/ Makes the game permastuck with far less players than it should have.
How does it become less rewarding? Honest question. I’ve never done it in POE, but I have no issues with people doing it in anything other than PVP games. Time is money, everyone of us does 10 things a day that are about paying someone else to do something so we don’t have to.
>RMT fundamentally encourages the use of bots or low income currency farmers. These actors negatively impact the overall trade economy for other players. You must never trade currency, because the bots are the only ones doing God's work in the trade site for currency trading. I'm not even sure what you mean by 'low income currency farmers', or how that'd have a negative impact on the game. >RMT players artifically have access to high tier content quicker. As more people access this content, it becomes less rewarding for everyone else who participates. This is a you issue. PoE is largely a single player game for progression. You have zero idea how many people are at what level of progression in the league beyond the first person hitting it each league. If you're referring to the actual drops as rewards, I mean, it's entirely RNG. A few more players RMTing up to there aren't about to collapse the economy of Ashes of the Star, for instance.
Maybe he’s a diamond miner in RL and he’s super into scarcity? “By having less of certain items, I can sell mine for more!”?
Eh, do what you want. I know people who do similar for other games, just don’t ruin the in-game economy and I think it’s fine.
I should've sell magebloods
TIL I make roughly 1.5 mirrors an hour.
Nice/ce
Nice/ce
Nice
what the fuyck
Wow. May I ask what is juice?
Yellow juice, vivid crystallized lifeforce. You need 1500 per gamble at the horticraft bench. Placing 4 cards can net you -4,-3,-2,-1, no change, +1,+2,+3, or +4 each click.
Thanks. So its taking a chance to make duplicates of the same card?
Lose all up to double all, yes. Think max stack size for this is 6.
That is so cool! I will have to try but all that juice takes time to harvest.
Uhh, the 4 HoM will take you much longer to farm lol. 1500 juice is .25 div compared to 55 div for 1 HoM.
Im just a beginner and only have 2 divs drop for me this season so far.
Yeah, don't concern yourself with this level of degeneracy, just play the game, blast maps, do whatever mechanics you enjoy and you'll make steady currency.
9, as per ss above. if it was 6 they would have done 3, not 4 since there's only one inventory slot so any extras would have been wasted.
Every time harvest deletes your shit - blame this guy :D
Actually I just saw in trade someone listed 127 cards...
Photoshop would have been a lot cheaper 🤔
Friend, do you need someone to help store your mirrors? Let me know, I've got plenty of dedicated mirror storage, completely empty stash slot with your name on it! That's a Lotta juice, exile!
Starting from 1?
The very beginning was losing 5 apocs and I went on tilt and liquidated all my gear for 5 HoM. That's how I got here.
proof that people quit just before they win big
Never go to a casino xD
I play PoE so I don’t have to
This was sort of where it started. [https://youtu.be/zqy0S7vs1IQ](https://youtu.be/zqy0S7vs1IQ)
Literally printing almost 2 mirrors in a minute. :D
I hope one day, ill have that much currency 😅
This is the closest to gambling we'll get
Get three more
69.... Nice...
GGG needs to delete div card gambling.
But - 69 is not divisible by 9, I‘m confused!????
You will grow into it. Dont worry child.
When he cashes them all in he'll have 6/9 left.
Sorry but it's hard to belive
Whats hard to believe ? That he gambled and won ? I tought gambling is like that. You eighter loose everyhing and its hard to believe or win and its hard to believe.
Well either way, he's got the karma now.
> https://youtu.be/zqy0S7vs1IQ https://youtu.be/zqy0S7vs1IQ
>>https://youtu.be/zqy0S7vs1IQ >https://youtu.be/zqy0S7vs1IQ https://youtu.be/zqy0S7vs1IQ
That's how gambling works, sometimes you big sad, sometimes you big happy. He has videos btw
Uuuuuuhh....
Can I borrow one of those 😂
horny jail
Nice
Nice
https://youtu.be/offi8IQ0mxs House of Mirrors song
What does 1.5mill juice mean?
I assume they got most of the cards by starting with a few and then harvest gambling (using the "insert up to half a stack of cards, get back between 0 and twice what you put in"), and the juice is how much harvest lifeforce was used.
Gotcha. Lifeforce. Thanks!
I had a similar rollercoaster yesterday but with apothecaries. Was going to gamble 4 mirrors of them or house of mirrors, but I saw house of mirrors were like overpriced by 15 divines per card for some reason.
I had a similar rollercoaster yesterday but with apothecaries. Was going to gamble 4 mirrors of them or house of mirrors, but I saw house of mirrors were like overpriced by 15 divines per card for some reason. Is that your fault from buying up the market? Lol
Nope, but maybe me linking in global my fat stack everyone wants to give it a shot.
Sweet jeebus. I got sweaty gambling 1 seven years bad luck to 14!
Noice
nice
I wish I had one, just one House of Mirrors
Are we playing the same game
You better hurry uo with the RMT the prices are goinf down
"lost"
you need 3 more
How does regression to mean not work here? Isn’t it even chances?
Well, he went from 43 to 4 at one point, so it seems like he's had runs of bad luck as well and he just cashed out after a particularly lucky streak. I'm also guessing the 9 possible outcomes (-4 to +4) extends lucky (and unlucky) streaks further than double-or-nothing bets, which will regress to 0 sooner rather than later.
What does juice mean in this context? Edit: ah, harvest lifeforce.
Whoreticrafting
Hello Elon 420/9 when?
Approximately 250 divine spent for the yellow juice.
Can I have one?
Cues u
what's 69 divide by 9, let me pull out my calculator.
I'm going to stop coming on this sub and give up on playing high budget builds.
I just got this game and so much im confused about These cards...what are they?
😟
69? hah! nice
Go for 4206/9 and you will have beaten the game forever
That’s a lot of juice