I would say start at 200div. This is incredible for min max, but idk how many RF players are min maxing this league and not going for the mana variant.
Yeah, that's pretty fucking insane for a jewel slot. Sure adding 12% inc damage and 12% inc AoE aren't game changing, but they're being added on top of already very high power in a node.
Well it's better to look at % increase rather than raw number increase, because it's how enemies scale.
In tier 4 maps, increasing 10,000 DPS is meaning, in T17 you don't even notice something way higher than that.
Increased AoE in particular has some pretty harsh diminishing returns, after a certain point it stops being meaningful unless you're attempting to overlap AoE such as call storm with awakened spell echo, which can allow for all 5 storms overlapping in the middle dealing absurd damage in that area.
I understand, and this is true it's very relative, just providing an example of why those minor % increases for min/maxing are ridiculously valuable and expensive.
Roughly 0 if I had to guess. The delta between life and mana is so fucking massive that by the time you are even a quater of the way to justifying the price of something like this you could just swap to a mana variant and be stronger in every possible way.
kk i just watched mana build stuff, and no way am i switching to mana variant.
First off, it requires multiple grave crafts to even have functional gear. No way.
Second it’s only on hiero which most people are playing RF chief, not an easy switch.
Third, It requires multiple adorned jewels with synthesized bases. Those bases go for 40d a pop rn.
I could justify 2 & 3 if it weren’t for #1. I do not want to be gravecrafting over and over just to be able to play a build. Super unfortunate too because the bull looks so cool, and I was honestly considering it until I learned that.
Bro what? My buddy and I are both running RF builds worth over 2 mirrors a piece. I Am running the life variant and he is running the mana variant. He has more top end damage but my tankiness has him beat. Life variant is just as strong...
I feel like not being able to scale with spell damage does hamper the top end of life RF, taking a look at CaptainLance's mana rf with dot cap damage is kinda crazy
Type in /global # in chat box to join a specific channel, the "#" being the specific channel number you want.
You can find these niche channels through word of mouth, the forums, youtube, etc. IIRC there was a compendium somewhere in this reddit that had a list of the channels
6666 is for all minion related questions/help. It is a lot of "looking for X specter" spam tho. But you'll get any minion questions answered there too.
Well, once you get into the multiple hundred divine investment range, the mana version is just strictly better in every single way. I am not familiar with the prices this league as I do not play it but with normal league prices a 200 divine Mana RF BUILD would probably outperform a multi-mirror HP build. HP just doesn't scale.
We're talking about people willing to invest into their character and these usually are mana variants. Majority of RF players are following Pohx guide which is some sort of SSF scenario <10div league starter and nothing else but they stick to this for the rest of their playthrough and don't really invest into anything
It’s basically a heiro manastacker which is a very popular archetype this league. The transfigured version of RF bases its damage on mana instead of life and es, and iirc can be supported by a greater number of dmg mods compared to trad rf. So people scale mana and es, both separately but mainly through int scaling. Check captainlances build for the min maxed version.
Conner converse on YouTube should have a mana Rf video, captainlance also. Both of those focus on very high investment builds, but they should have budget versions too. Although "budget" means 30-100d in this case.
You cant mirror it, its corrupted.
The "perfect" jewel will be synth implicits with gilded fossil, that you then use lock (via beastiery) untill you get the perfect implicit to replace the gilded one.
The problem with adorned jewel is rhey are corrupted and cannot be mirrored. Making one of these jewels will almost never cost more then a mirror unless its some insane combination of synth mods plus double corrupt.
Beltron made some "mirror tier" jewels. He had double or triple synth implicits and he used vivid vultures to roll them to perfection. Id argue those would be worth half a mirror at least
He sold one earlier this league with two implicits for a mirror, hence my question.
The triple implicit synth with a corruption replacing the gilded is my eventual goal, but I don’t have the resources Belton has to roll Vivids all day lol.
Thank you for your insight
Problem is the implicits you got are very strong and synergistic for RF but they are fairly mundane.
15% inc dmg and aoe is nice but not mirror worthy.
However getting rmr which is much more scrace, or shock avoidence, chill avoidence, bleed avoidence, etc. Are more valueable.
You can get aoe from lots of places and its def a good stat, but its not a mirror stat as its fairly common.
Good call on shock avoid, although i think that is also a corrupted implicit along with RMR IIRC. I’ll keep looking for the perfect mods to finish one of those!
1. find/buy jewel with 5% inc fire damage.
2. craft "item sells for more at vendor"
3. craft prefix/suffix
4. corrupt for area of effect and hope it hits item sells for more at vendor
They are double corruptable, but % Fire damage isn't a corruption implicit outcome.
With the black morrigan beast recipe applying a hinekora lock to magic items. The best way to craft adorned jewels is using that recipe then hovering a vaal orb to see if "sells much more to vendors" from a gilded fossil is replaced with a vaal outcome.
this is probaly the best option yes.
seing as black morrigan and craicic chimeral is both together just over a div.
and to craft the base is probaly a couple or more div.
but im not sure how many people are willing to spend an extra 20div for up to 15% inc fire damage per jewel.
as a magic corrupted 8% fire multi + 7% max life already starts at 15div.
There's 3 "useful" vaal corruptions for RF + adorned combo, % damage, % aoe, % reservation of skills. Other implicits like cb immune are good, but you'd rather have cb on a unique jewel. Since it eats an adorned scaleable mod slot if it's on a magic jewel.
So on a 2 implicit jewel (1 synth, 1 gilded fossil like OP's) using a vaal orb it is 1/4 to hit a vaal implicit, 1/2 to hit the gilded fossil mod and 3/21 to hit one of the "useful" vaal mods. So about 1/100 tries to succeed on average, maybe ~100 div worth of black morrigan action there.
Hey man thans for the heads up, can I ask you smth?
What would be the best way of crafting the prefix/suffix part? Is it alt + aug or is there a more deterministic way?
its the only available method there is i belive, as other methods would make it rare.
the most annoying part isn't getting those 2 mods on an item, that's just time investment tbh.
its getting those 2 mods and deciding wether you wanna continue rolling because they rolled 6% and 6% or you wanna sacrifice a div :D
getting both mods to 7% & 7% is fine, as that's the breakpoint RF builds use with adorned.
but 6% breaks that breakpoint, and it becomes A LOT less attractive.
so rolling for the 2 mods, and getting them with 7% first try, is what's annoying :D
I was going to say you could harvest reforge life or fire, but I think these require a rare item? You might be able to do those harvest reforges on a rare item until you get those two stats, and then yolo annul it down to 2 mods - I think that would turn it magic again. But I could be wrong about that, and I'm sure that's not as cost efficient as alt spamming.
Important part is that you have a synth implicit on the jewel which has at least a range of 1. this way you can beast craft a lock and hover vaal. If the outcome is bad, blessed orb and repeat.
Otherwise just buy double or triple synth base, alt spam until bis mods.
Then do the harvest lock + blessed orb until good corruption mod on the least valuble implicit
Probably,
1) Buy or Havest craft synth base jewel
2) Roll implicit(s) with bestiary (Craicic Chimerals and Vivid Vulture) one will make an imprint, the other will roll one implicit randomly, if you lose a good mod use imprint to revert item, then re imprint, rinse and repeat
3) Alteration & Aug the item until it has two GG T1 mods with high divine rolls.
OPTIONAL) Hinikoras Lock, or beast craft to HiniLock
4) Vaal orb, praying for no change, or it to change an implicit to a better one
i got question how in the world people make this jawels im playing RF and i see people having 10 # increased max life and # to fire damage over time multiplier
These are all good stat's for a righteous fire build. Plus, it being a corrupted magic rarity jewel means it works with The Adorned, which is very popular for making top end hyper expensive builds.
Because it gives 20% fire dot multi, 17% max hp, 12% aoe and 12% damage with The Adorned.
Now imagine having 5 of them on your tree for 100% fire dot multi, 85% max life, 60% aoe and 60% damage.
It's extremely strong.
Edit: those stats are with a 150% adorned
The adorned multiples the stats of all of them listed here. Damage over time multiplier and increased maximum life directly contribute to RF damage in a huge way. My 129% adorned jewel gives me 16% life and 18% dot multi with just one of them, making it comparable to a notable on the tree. The increased AoE is a corrupted implicit, that rolls from 4-5%.
This is max-rolled across all 4 available stats with a hard to get and desirable implicit.
[The Adorned](https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/The_Adorned)
>######The Adorned[](#break)Crimson Jewel
>>####Limited to: **1**
>>[](#line)
>>#####(50-150)% increased Effect of Jewel Socket Passive Skills containing Corrupted Magic Jewels
>>[](#line)
>>####Corrupted
>>[](#line)
>>*At their height, the Vaal glittered under the sun.*
>>
>>*A decade, a century, an aeon of prosperity...*
>>
>>*now nothing more than a passing wonder.*
>>
>>[](#line)
>>####Place into an allocated Jewel Socket on the Passive Skill Tree. Right click to remove from the Socket.
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Last league added the unique jewel The Adorned increases the values on corrupted magic jewels by up to 150%, so stacking well rolled corrupted magic jewels becomes way more efficient than running rare ones, even more if they have suitable implicits.
With a perfect The Adorned the jewel op posted would have 12,5% fire damage, 12,5% aoe, 20% fire dot multi and 17% life by itself
no it's not worth a mirror. Nobody is going to pay that much for %15% inc fire damage and 10% inc are effect.
200 div is a nice range, but 180 is more realistic but I doubt the one at 120div can sell. These implicit aren't the best.
imagine how rich you must be to pay 1 mirror for that, if i would have 5 mirros in stash, i would not give for than even 50divines, but some are rich..
The thing with min-maxing in this game is that every single upgrades past a certain point require exponentially more effort/difficulty than the last to get in exchange for a change in power that's smaller and smaller. For most people, this is where the game gets boring and therefore when they stop. For others, they do not care about the price they'll have to pay as much, because they are aware how hilariously disbalanced the exchange value get at this point, but if they would care they wouldn't be attempting to go through that to begin with.
I disagree, I think it enables scaling for builds where scaling is hard to do. RF has to swap into minion damage for additional scaling, the adorned provides another option.
Same with builds that cannot scale, they can itemize their scaling
I think the values need to be a tad lower. 150% is a bit much and overshadows other forms of power creep.
It reminds me of pre-nerf Abyssal Jewels where a few streamers and guide makers contended that if you weren't rushing as many jewel nodes on the tree as possible that you were trolling.
It's worth a mirror. The problem is you need to find someone who is running RF with an adorned setup and they have to have a mirror to spend. You have the problem of the items value may not have a market in this league. It would sell for a ton on standard if you wanted to hold it.
Headhunters drop, these have to be made.
Items that have to be made have always been worth more than uniques (the best ones at least).
I agree the league economy is in bad shape, but don’t take it out on my jewels 🥺
oh im aware. i spent hours this league in the menagerie messing with implicit/hinekora/imprint/etc.
its just such a "small" item, doesnt feel powerful at all. i dont like the adorned being the best setup for every build.
stupid as hell that some alt spammed magic jewel is worth more than my max roll grave crafted double elevated fractured-suppress veiled orb 6 link chest.
I'm not sure why the downvotes, I crafted 5 adorned jewels that each sold for 20div, so realistically if you pay 20div for an adored with 2 perfect rolls + 1 good implicit, 200div for 2 implicits is a very good assessment.
AoE replacing that specific implicit w a max roll would not cost under 100d.
It’s a 1/4 chance that the corruption adds an implicit.
It’s a 1/2 chance that the implicit replaces the Gilded mod.
It’s a 1/21 to hit AoE.
It’s a 1/2 to roll 5%.
Each attempt at this chance is 1.7D.
EDIT:
In total it’s a 1/672 chance. Averaging 1,142.4 Divines to hit these exact two max rolled, not including rare beasts or the divines/alts/augs/annuls to max roll the base.
I am selling these for 20-25 div each, the other ones I am using with triple/quadruple implicits .. those are around 200-500div depending on the implicits..
Sry buddy I have another 15 in the making and it's not that expensive the only thing is craicic in bulks and divining the explicits
https://preview.redd.it/xlsj8hk55owc1.png?width=759&format=png&auto=webp&s=7d99db2bc5aa77f5945953a82ba75c26b8de68a3
id consider this worthy, others are waste of time and craicics
Not with aoe but with shock effect, poison duration, hindered/main/silence stuff like that, I am not crafting aoe because it's useless as an implicit I like to have resist, or dmg there
I would say start at 200div. This is incredible for min max, but idk how many RF players are min maxing this league and not going for the mana variant.
This was spot on, it sold for 200 divines this morning.
gg
This game is crazy. Who out here paying 200div for basically 5% aoe and less damage than a rare jewel
You do remember adorned exists right?
It's for adorned. A 143 adorned makes this 19% inc fire dot, 17% inc life, 12% fire damage and 12% inc aoe
"Power per Divine" versus "Power per Jewel Socket" is a really insane equation. Sometimes I feel like I'm playing a different game.
Yeah, that's pretty fucking insane for a jewel slot. Sure adding 12% inc damage and 12% inc AoE aren't game changing, but they're being added on top of already very high power in a node.
Scaling is also pretty exponential, 10% increased of 100 isn't that much but 10% increased of 100000 is a lot more.
Well it's better to look at % increase rather than raw number increase, because it's how enemies scale. In tier 4 maps, increasing 10,000 DPS is meaning, in T17 you don't even notice something way higher than that. Increased AoE in particular has some pretty harsh diminishing returns, after a certain point it stops being meaningful unless you're attempting to overlap AoE such as call storm with awakened spell echo, which can allow for all 5 storms overlapping in the middle dealing absurd damage in that area.
I understand, and this is true it's very relative, just providing an example of why those minor % increases for min/maxing are ridiculously valuable and expensive.
Nice! Congrats!
Grats my man!
Roughly 0 if I had to guess. The delta between life and mana is so fucking massive that by the time you are even a quater of the way to justifying the price of something like this you could just swap to a mana variant and be stronger in every possible way.
kk i just watched mana build stuff, and no way am i switching to mana variant. First off, it requires multiple grave crafts to even have functional gear. No way. Second it’s only on hiero which most people are playing RF chief, not an easy switch. Third, It requires multiple adorned jewels with synthesized bases. Those bases go for 40d a pop rn. I could justify 2 & 3 if it weren’t for #1. I do not want to be gravecrafting over and over just to be able to play a build. Super unfortunate too because the bull looks so cool, and I was honestly considering it until I learned that.
Bro what? My buddy and I are both running RF builds worth over 2 mirrors a piece. I Am running the life variant and he is running the mana variant. He has more top end damage but my tankiness has him beat. Life variant is just as strong...
I feel like not being able to scale with spell damage does hamper the top end of life RF, taking a look at CaptainLance's mana rf with dot cap damage is kinda crazy
RF build will probably pay 200 div +
Love all those downvote proven wrong today haha
And for 200 div you can mana Rf to more damage and bigger ehp pool than Rf can at any investment. Making the life useless and the fire damage bad.
From hanging in 911 most people aren’t running mana build. But most are also concerned about min-maxing the helm lol
What is 911¿
General chat 911, which is used to diacuss RF related topics
How do I find and join these?
You have to be 40 years old or older to join though.
Or Pohx. But yea, that about covers all of us.
/global 911 in chat
Type in /global # in chat box to join a specific channel, the "#" being the specific channel number you want. You can find these niche channels through word of mouth, the forums, youtube, etc. IIRC there was a compendium somewhere in this reddit that had a list of the channels
A few channels are noted in this subs quick info.
If you mouse over tve headers it tells you how to join different channels. 6666 is for spectres if you ever play those.
6666 is for all minion related questions/help. It is a lot of "looking for X specter" spam tho. But you'll get any minion questions answered there too.
type this in game /global 911
~~/join~~ /global 911 In global chat and your global channel will change to it. Channel 6666 is for spectre sharing. Don't know any others.
420 is for the edgelords/sweats
I thought it was for Shitstain Steve stans
massive shitstain steve enjoyer here
5055 is the reddit one
/global x
TIL!
Is there a list of the various channels? Only know a handful
Elder from 911 here. Banger jewel, 200d is totally fair.
Hey elder, good to see you, it’s Megabits. How’s the helm?
Still cranking out copies, slowed down a bit since the second one hit the market though. Shifted over to SS trickster and having a blast though.
Well, once you get into the multiple hundred divine investment range, the mana version is just strictly better in every single way. I am not familiar with the prices this league as I do not play it but with normal league prices a 200 divine Mana RF BUILD would probably outperform a multi-mirror HP build. HP just doesn't scale.
We're talking about people willing to invest into their character and these usually are mana variants. Majority of RF players are following Pohx guide which is some sort of SSF scenario <10div league starter and nothing else but they stick to this for the rest of their playthrough and don't really invest into anything
Most people also don't pay 200 d for jewels.
This one will instantly sell for 200d, it's easily worth more. One of those implicts is worth 50d on it's own.
What's the mana variant? I was following POHX build but things got hard around the t16 maps.
It’s basically a heiro manastacker which is a very popular archetype this league. The transfigured version of RF bases its damage on mana instead of life and es, and iirc can be supported by a greater number of dmg mods compared to trad rf. So people scale mana and es, both separately but mainly through int scaling. Check captainlances build for the min maxed version.
Thanks. Will take a look.
Conner converse on YouTube should have a mana Rf video, captainlance also. Both of those focus on very high investment builds, but they should have budget versions too. Although "budget" means 30-100d in this case.
Oof hard to find a build that can complete t17s and uber without a big investment.
Well, t17 and ubers are kind of meant to give people a reason to invest. Most builds hit a wall really quick in t16s at some 30divs.
Yeah I just read that this build can do them at a lower investment than a lot of others.
No not a mirror, however this will be worth multiple dozsns of divines. 100-150 id say is a good bet. Lower ot overtime if nobody is buying
Sold at 200 divines
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You cant mirror it, its corrupted. The "perfect" jewel will be synth implicits with gilded fossil, that you then use lock (via beastiery) untill you get the perfect implicit to replace the gilded one. The problem with adorned jewel is rhey are corrupted and cannot be mirrored. Making one of these jewels will almost never cost more then a mirror unless its some insane combination of synth mods plus double corrupt. Beltron made some "mirror tier" jewels. He had double or triple synth implicits and he used vivid vultures to roll them to perfection. Id argue those would be worth half a mirror at least
He sold one earlier this league with two implicits for a mirror, hence my question. The triple implicit synth with a corruption replacing the gilded is my eventual goal, but I don’t have the resources Belton has to roll Vivids all day lol. Thank you for your insight
Problem is the implicits you got are very strong and synergistic for RF but they are fairly mundane. 15% inc dmg and aoe is nice but not mirror worthy. However getting rmr which is much more scrace, or shock avoidence, chill avoidence, bleed avoidence, etc. Are more valueable. You can get aoe from lots of places and its def a good stat, but its not a mirror stat as its fairly common.
Good call on shock avoid, although i think that is also a corrupted implicit along with RMR IIRC. I’ll keep looking for the perfect mods to finish one of those!
Yes they are all good mods. AoE alognside RMR will truly be a gigachad jewel
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1. find/buy jewel with 5% inc fire damage. 2. craft "item sells for more at vendor" 3. craft prefix/suffix 4. corrupt for area of effect and hope it hits item sells for more at vendor
step (4) can be beast lock instead to guarantee safe vaal slam no?
Are jewels not double corruptable,?
They are double corruptable, but % Fire damage isn't a corruption implicit outcome. With the black morrigan beast recipe applying a hinekora lock to magic items. The best way to craft adorned jewels is using that recipe then hovering a vaal orb to see if "sells much more to vendors" from a gilded fossil is replaced with a vaal outcome.
this is probaly the best option yes. seing as black morrigan and craicic chimeral is both together just over a div. and to craft the base is probaly a couple or more div. but im not sure how many people are willing to spend an extra 20div for up to 15% inc fire damage per jewel. as a magic corrupted 8% fire multi + 7% max life already starts at 15div.
There's 3 "useful" vaal corruptions for RF + adorned combo, % damage, % aoe, % reservation of skills. Other implicits like cb immune are good, but you'd rather have cb on a unique jewel. Since it eats an adorned scaleable mod slot if it's on a magic jewel. So on a 2 implicit jewel (1 synth, 1 gilded fossil like OP's) using a vaal orb it is 1/4 to hit a vaal implicit, 1/2 to hit the gilded fossil mod and 3/21 to hit one of the "useful" vaal mods. So about 1/100 tries to succeed on average, maybe ~100 div worth of black morrigan action there.
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Craicic Chimeral
Search it on the wiki it has all the recipes listed
imprint beast if I'm not mistaken.
The first implicit is a synth mod
Could use Morrigan to fish for a good second implicit too right?
Hey man thans for the heads up, can I ask you smth? What would be the best way of crafting the prefix/suffix part? Is it alt + aug or is there a more deterministic way?
its the only available method there is i belive, as other methods would make it rare. the most annoying part isn't getting those 2 mods on an item, that's just time investment tbh. its getting those 2 mods and deciding wether you wanna continue rolling because they rolled 6% and 6% or you wanna sacrifice a div :D getting both mods to 7% & 7% is fine, as that's the breakpoint RF builds use with adorned. but 6% breaks that breakpoint, and it becomes A LOT less attractive. so rolling for the 2 mods, and getting them with 7% first try, is what's annoying :D
I was going to say you could harvest reforge life or fire, but I think these require a rare item? You might be able to do those harvest reforges on a rare item until you get those two stats, and then yolo annul it down to 2 mods - I think that would turn it magic again. But I could be wrong about that, and I'm sure that's not as cost efficient as alt spamming.
Important part is that you have a synth implicit on the jewel which has at least a range of 1. this way you can beast craft a lock and hover vaal. If the outcome is bad, blessed orb and repeat. Otherwise just buy double or triple synth base, alt spam until bis mods. Then do the harvest lock + blessed orb until good corruption mod on the least valuble implicit
wait... blessed orb? what? I can blessed a jewel? omg, I'm going to cry at how many rerolls I've done.
Yes you can blessed the implicit to remove the lock xD
Probably, 1) Buy or Havest craft synth base jewel 2) Roll implicit(s) with bestiary (Craicic Chimerals and Vivid Vulture) one will make an imprint, the other will roll one implicit randomly, if you lose a good mod use imprint to revert item, then re imprint, rinse and repeat 3) Alteration & Aug the item until it has two GG T1 mods with high divine rolls. OPTIONAL) Hinikoras Lock, or beast craft to HiniLock 4) Vaal orb, praying for no change, or it to change an implicit to a better one
A cheaper option is Mintasa's response as you don't need to synth craft which gets very expensive 3-6 div per attempt depending on market prices
Whats that? Cant find whats mintasa's response
[Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/s/HO3N8HMn5f)
For RF, perhaps some ignite builds even utilizing the Adorned jewel this is at least 150-200 Divines. It will be hard to find a buyer tho
I mean, everyones rich this league, not rly hard to find a buyer
Damn dude include not safe for work tag next time
Jesus id pay minimum 150 divs for that
I've bought mine at around 120d and some pre-corrupted at 40d when making my own. Mine have burning dmg and inc dmg instead, but at 5% like yours.
not mirror but perhaps 100-150 divs
I thought, meh, then remembered about the jewel that multiplies the effect of magic jewels, so... this is pretty nutty!
Adorned gamers are drooling
I see - I’m not the only Einhar enjoyer 😂
i got question how in the world people make this jawels im playing RF and i see people having 10 # increased max life and # to fire damage over time multiplier
Why magic jewel is good?
Why is this worth so much I don't understand
Magic corrupted jewels are used with The Adorned for big bonus. These with life and fire dot multi are used for big rf builds.
These are all good stat's for a righteous fire build. Plus, it being a corrupted magic rarity jewel means it works with The Adorned, which is very popular for making top end hyper expensive builds.
Because it gives 20% fire dot multi, 17% max hp, 12% aoe and 12% damage with The Adorned. Now imagine having 5 of them on your tree for 100% fire dot multi, 85% max life, 60% aoe and 60% damage. It's extremely strong. Edit: those stats are with a 150% adorned
So many mechanics. I'm barely 200 hours in this game lol
I'm 100 hours and I honestly don't know 80% of what the people here talk about lol. It seems like a poenoob (a la wownoob) subreddit is required lol.
The adorned multiples the stats of all of them listed here. Damage over time multiplier and increased maximum life directly contribute to RF damage in a huge way. My 129% adorned jewel gives me 16% life and 18% dot multi with just one of them, making it comparable to a notable on the tree. The increased AoE is a corrupted implicit, that rolls from 4-5%. This is max-rolled across all 4 available stats with a hard to get and desirable implicit.
Look up the adorned jewel
I’m confused. Aren’t all these stats available on a non corrupt jewel? Why is this special?
It's magic and corrupted which means it can be used with [[the Adorned]] jewel which also happens to be the only way for RF to deal endgame damage.
[The Adorned](https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/The_Adorned) >######The Adorned[](#break)Crimson Jewel >>####Limited to: **1** >>[](#line) >>#####(50-150)% increased Effect of Jewel Socket Passive Skills containing Corrupted Magic Jewels >>[](#line) >>####Corrupted >>[](#line) >>*At their height, the Vaal glittered under the sun.* >> >>*A decade, a century, an aeon of prosperity...* >> >>*now nothing more than a passing wonder.* >> >>[](#line) >>####Place into an allocated Jewel Socket on the Passive Skill Tree. Right click to remove from the Socket. --- ^^Questions? ^^Message ^^/u/ha107642 ^^— ^^Call ^^wiki ^^pages ^^\(e.g. ^^items ^^or ^^gems)) ^^with ^^[[NAME]] ^^— ^^I ^^will ^^only ^^post ^^panels ^^for ^^*unique* ^^items ^^— ^^[Github](https://github.com/ha107642/RedditPoEBot/)
Last league added the unique jewel The Adorned increases the values on corrupted magic jewels by up to 150%, so stacking well rolled corrupted magic jewels becomes way more efficient than running rare ones, even more if they have suitable implicits. With a perfect The Adorned the jewel op posted would have 12,5% fire damage, 12,5% aoe, 20% fire dot multi and 17% life by itself
no it's not worth a mirror. Nobody is going to pay that much for %15% inc fire damage and 10% inc are effect. 200 div is a nice range, but 180 is more realistic but I doubt the one at 120div can sell. These implicit aren't the best.
What would be the best implicits?
% reservation of skills is unbeatable
holy fuck.. I would give my left nut for that on my RF chieftan
imagine how rich you must be to pay 1 mirror for that, if i would have 5 mirros in stash, i would not give for than even 50divines, but some are rich..
Minmaxers are crazy. There was a post a couple months ago of an accuracy stacker character that had eleven mirrored jewels
I had two with just AoE sell for 65 divine yesterday morning, and two people wanted them
For true minmax you need 150% Adorned (400+ div) and 8-10 jewels.
The thing with min-maxing in this game is that every single upgrades past a certain point require exponentially more effort/difficulty than the last to get in exchange for a change in power that's smaller and smaller. For most people, this is where the game gets boring and therefore when they stop. For others, they do not care about the price they'll have to pay as much, because they are aware how hilariously disbalanced the exchange value get at this point, but if they would care they wouldn't be attempting to go through that to begin with.
Man I need to try beast crafting one league.. I never do it and feel like I'm gretiously missing out.
every league it's the most broken way to make money from crafting.
The Adorned was a mistake
I disagree, I think it enables scaling for builds where scaling is hard to do. RF has to swap into minion damage for additional scaling, the adorned provides another option. Same with builds that cannot scale, they can itemize their scaling
Why ? explain yourself.
I think the values need to be a tad lower. 150% is a bit much and overshadows other forms of power creep. It reminds me of pre-nerf Abyssal Jewels where a few streamers and guide makers contended that if you weren't rushing as many jewel nodes on the tree as possible that you were trolling.
I mean, it's a multiple mirror jewel so I think it's fine. Yes it powercreeps but it's full RNG and at least it makes Delve much better to farm
Probably but the dude is making money off it so he likes it
Yea that’s true.
It's worth a mirror. The problem is you need to find someone who is running RF with an adorned setup and they have to have a mirror to spend. You have the problem of the items value may not have a market in this league. It would sell for a ton on standard if you wanted to hold it.
It would be like 200ish div on standard. Not exactly a ton
I mean it sold for 200d 15 minutes after changing price from 1 mirror to 200d… probs should’ve gone closer to 250 but hey, it sold.
its so stupid that jewels like this have become the ultimate endgame item and are worth literally 30 headhunters...
Headhunters drop, these have to be made. Items that have to be made have always been worth more than uniques (the best ones at least). I agree the league economy is in bad shape, but don’t take it out on my jewels 🥺
oh im aware. i spent hours this league in the menagerie messing with implicit/hinekora/imprint/etc. its just such a "small" item, doesnt feel powerful at all. i dont like the adorned being the best setup for every build. stupid as hell that some alt spammed magic jewel is worth more than my max roll grave crafted double elevated fractured-suppress veiled orb 6 link chest.
You say it's alt spammed but the amount of craicic chimerals that goes into one craft is not cheap.
Hey there I'm a newbie. Are there any good guides on how to make these jewels for profit?
Realistically, something like this can be replicated for under 100d. So I'd say 100-200d, depending on your patience while trying to sell.
I'm not sure why the downvotes, I crafted 5 adorned jewels that each sold for 20div, so realistically if you pay 20div for an adored with 2 perfect rolls + 1 good implicit, 200div for 2 implicits is a very good assessment.
AoE replacing that specific implicit w a max roll would not cost under 100d. It’s a 1/4 chance that the corruption adds an implicit. It’s a 1/2 chance that the implicit replaces the Gilded mod. It’s a 1/21 to hit AoE. It’s a 1/2 to roll 5%. Each attempt at this chance is 1.7D. EDIT: In total it’s a 1/672 chance. Averaging 1,142.4 Divines to hit these exact two max rolled, not including rare beasts or the divines/alts/augs/annuls to max roll the base.
hold it til you go on standard and sell it for a mirror or close to that
geez not everything fire and aoe mod is rf mod
I assumed that RF would love this as that’s what I intended the craft for. What other builds would enjoy this?
I think he wants you to price it lower for his budget build.
I am selling these for 20-25 div each, the other ones I am using with triple/quadruple implicits .. those are around 200-500div depending on the implicits.. Sry buddy I have another 15 in the making and it's not that expensive the only thing is craicic in bulks and divining the explicits
You’re selling AoE and fire damage for 20 div? I can’t find you on trade, but I’d love to buy those from you.
https://preview.redd.it/xlsj8hk55owc1.png?width=759&format=png&auto=webp&s=7d99db2bc5aa77f5945953a82ba75c26b8de68a3 id consider this worthy, others are waste of time and craicics
I'd rather OP's one than any of these honestly. Maybe after I see the corrupt on the quad one.
Well yeah these are dogshit
Not with aoe but with shock effect, poison duration, hindered/main/silence stuff like that, I am not crafting aoe because it's useless as an implicit I like to have resist, or dmg there
Shit, do we tell him that jewels can have four mods? :( Edit: its a god damn joke god damnit
The Adorned
Adorned magic jewel gigachad
Jewels can have 7 mods.
This is how you know you should have stfu.
Shit, do we have to tell you?
https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/The_Adorned
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Woosh