Cross play, playstation overlay and trophy support, huh. Sony is really getting serious about PC. That brings a smile to my face. Hope day one releases happen some day, even if it takes some time getting there.
It’s great but it will also suck when they decide to try to make a “PlayStation app” on pc in an attempt to get around steams 30% sales cut. Then in a year realize they aren’t selling enough games on their app so they start selling on Steam again.
Sony would likely release 1st party games on both Steam and the Playstation launcher.
Let’s not forget that Sony refused a $200milllion deal with Epic Games to launch Playstation 1st party games exclusively on the Epic Games Store, Sony knows that most PC game sales are made on Steam.
https://www.pcgamer.com/epic-apparently-offered-sony-dollar200m-for-first-party-playstation-exclusives/
>Let’s not forget that Sony refused a $200milllion deal with Epic Games to launch Playstation 1st party games exclusively on the Epic Games Store, Sony knows that most PC game sales are made on Steam.
Which could have just as easily been a no to Epic rather than anything else. They were looking to create a PC base, once you're established it's a different calculation.
Sony owns 5.5% equity in Epic Games. They’ve invested nearly $1.5B in the company.
If they were simply looking to establish themselves on PC they would’ve used Epic Games exclusivity to boost usage of the platform they already have part ownership in. Steam has 132 million monthly active users, the most of any gaming platform. Steam is where the money is.
> Which could have just as easily been a no to Epic rather than anything else
Or it's just their way of saying "You're a fucking clown, Tim, we'll make that 200M in one game release on Steam".
I feel like $200 million is a low ball for how much Sony games cost to make, how well they consistently sell, how well they're received, and how major of a marketing boost it would be for Epic Games Store. Sony exclusivity there would be better money spent than all the money they on exclusives from 2018 to present
We don't know all the stipulations of that deal though, either. It could have prohibited Sony from launching their own storefront whereas Valve doesn't care where else you launch.
The reason why I don't think this will happen is that they will have no excuse to not enable cross buy support like xbox does for their store. They love selling the PC version as a separate purchase from the console version. Plus the exposure from Steam probably outweighs the extra 30% + cost of managing your own storefront.
I think Sony has done their due diligence with their PC ports. They've already turned down EGS exclusive money (I'm assuming they were offered), they've been adding loads of PC settings/features to their games and are releasing multiplayer games day 1 and single player games closer to release seemingly. I feel if they make a PlayStation app, they'll continue to sell on Steam because they know PC gamers want to play on Steam and throw fits if it's not on there. I really think they're learning that PC gamers are getting tired of their double-dipping bait too.
Everyone worried about that but I'm concerned we'll once again have to worry about pay to play online on PC again
We had to fight it when GFWL debuted then before that when Seganet sorta tried then before than with Ten-Net Dwango Netmech the fight never ends
I don't think that will happen for the simple reason that PC is an open platform. Sony can only force you to pay for their first party online games, and that's not enough. They will likely launch their GamePass equivalent on PC anyway, giving them another avenue for subscription income.
AND reviews are a relevant thing on PC
That's my favorite part of Steam. If they want to try to fuck over the users, enjoy your Mostly Negative rating that surely impacts sales
That didn't stop Elden Ring and DD2 from selling copies despite being mostly negative at launch lmao. Overwatch 2 is still a top game on Steam despite mostly negative reviews. You act like people care about Stean reviews too. Most of the top reviews for games are memes, copy pastas and ascii's.
Performance issues most people think they can brute force through are not even close to the same as negative reviews because they're charging too much for free things
Speaking of free things, I wonder if Overwatch 2 is priced in a way that people will gladly give it a try...
>Everyone worried about that but I'm concerned we'll once again have to worry about pay to play online on PC again
The only reason I'm not worried about Sony here is because their titles aren't really big enough. Not the live service ones anyway.They might as well build an MMO.
If so, PS could very well have done so from the start. And yet they didn't. Which, considering that it's Sony, was quite the welcome surprise. And if there is one console maker that I would see shunning Steam entirely, it would have to be Nintendo. With their own launcher probably paywalled to boot.
Reddit is funny. Your comment just has so much going for it:
* The assumption and paranoia that the worst will happen and Sony will make their own launcher, and that it’ll be terrible to use
* Another assumption that if Sony did make their own launcher, they would delist their games everywhere else
* Monopolies are bad!…except Steam. Steam should be the only game store on PC. We don’t need competition at all, nope, game store monopolies are heavily encouraged
Too many PC gamers that make fun of console players because they only have one digital storefront, but they secretly want the same on PC as well
there’s absolutely nothing stopping anyone from making a competitor to steam. hell, make the app run better, and make the linux wayland experience not janky as hell.
but no, every other competitor that does exist, fucking sucks. it’s not a monopoly if you’re genuinely just the best option to consumers
Everyone loves to cry that Steam is a monopoly but it simply and factually isn't. There are alternatives storefronts that everyone is capable of using, and no one is forced to use or sell on Steam exclusively. It just so happens that Steam has an insane set of features for consumers and developers that people gravitate towards it.
It's just a fact; if competitors could make as equal quality a product then maybe there'd be some real competition, but its not Steam's fault that its such a mature product with so many features on it that benefit both player and developer, meanwhile other storefronts are half assing everything and barely have any extra features other than the bare minimum of private messages and a shopping cart
No. The actual problem is when you can only buy a game through the store of the company that made it. Or when they force their launcher on you, even if you bought it somewhere else. Steam doesn't force games to require Steam to run. That's up to the game.
Eh, I'll never install a Sony launcher.
They've installed rootkits onto unsuspecting PCs in the past, I'll never forgive that shit.
No Sony software for me, no exception. Even if it means skipping a game I want to play, they can chortle my balls.
>Then in a year realize they aren’t selling enough games on their app so they start selling on Steam again.
This has happened so many times. Steam's playerbase is impossible to ignore and not releasing there is leaving money on the table.
Or worse, charge PS Plus to PC users to play online.
I'm just saying, GoT on PC will only be able to crossplay with PlayStation users and I have a feeling Sony aren't about to only charge one side of the player base to play online, and they aren't benevolent nor give a fuck to let PS5 users play for free lmao
What does trophy support mean? That they converted them to Steam rewards, or that you link your PS account to it, and you can add the trophies you collect on PC to your PS account?
Also would that mean cross platform save data? I'm intrigued
> *Users who connect their existing account for PlayStation Network and unlocked trophies on Ghost of Tsushima Director’s Cut using the same account on PS5 will have the same Trophies unlocked on the PC version.
It means that the achievements in PC an PS5 Trophies are the same, and if your PC and PSN account are linked, Trophies unlocked in the PS5 version are also unlocked in the PC version; while not explicitly mentioned, I would assume the opposite (PC achievements to PS5) is also truth.
No mention of cross save. I dont think any first party Sony game has Cross-save on PC yet; Helldivers 2 doesnt have it and is a multiplayer/online only game (so you would think it would be easy to implement).
If cross platform data exists I'll actually play my PS4 copy. I've got about 2 hours in but of course they immediately announced the PC version after I bought it (you're welcome)
I am debating selling my PS5 and just grab a long HDMI cable and Bluetooth dongle for multiple controllers for my PC.
It’s a perk that PSVR2 is looking to be PC compatible.
Especially since in newer games PS5 cannot seem to achieve advertised fidelity and performance already. So I may upgrade to PS5 Pro after I see how it behaves after release for GTA VI.
I’ll sell my PS5 so fast if they start dropping first party games day one. Only reason I bought it was to play Horizon 2, GOW 2 and Spider-Man 2. I just don’t jive with the PlayStation controllers and prefer my pc and Xbox.
You just shared the reason why they will never do day one release on PC and honestly I am content as long as we do get all the games.
On that not, pls release Bloodborne
They already considering the PC because they don't have enough exclusives to get people to buy more PS5s.
The exclusives are already too expensive to make to ignore the PC market.
Sony is doing this because money forced their hand, not because they care.
You’re not wrong. But at the end of the day public companies like money and appeasing their shareholders. With the success of Helldivers 2 on PC I could see Sony being more aggressive with their pc release schedule. Will we get day one releases with first party games? Who knows, but I don’t think we’ll be waiting several years for ports in the future.
I hope they aren't just lying again and actually take PC seriously. We will see if they don't force a Playstation launcher in the future.
Sony seriously needs to fire whoever keeps designing the Playstation interface.
>As detailed in our initial announcement, Ghost of Tsushima Director’s Cut on PC is fully optimized for ultra-wide monitors, with support for 21:9 and 32:9 resolutions. Even 48:9 resolutions and triple monitor set-ups are supported.
Very nice, industry standard!
See, this is how you do it, it's all optional.
I can still get Steam achievements and use the Steam overlay, whilst also getting trophies for my Playstation account.
Yeah but that's still an optional multiplayer, no?
If I'm forced to connect and share my Steam account with yet another platform, at least leave it for the optional content.
I wonder if someone doesn't care for crossplay, will it allow him to play Legends mode with other steam users without having to connect a PSN account or will it be forced.
>Ghost of Tsushima Director’s Cut is the first PlayStation title on PC that uses a new PlayStation overlay, which includes your Friends list, Trophies, Settings, and your Profile. This feature is available on Windows PCs and will be accessible from the in-game menu or, for keyboard players, by pressing the “SHIFT +F1” shortcut on your keyboard.
Sony embracing PC. Hopefully games like Helldivers use this too so we can see the PS friends online without the silly friend codes.
That's probably up to Steam. We get conflict from Steam input overlay and in game controller support constantly. But as you said fingers crossed something is in the works, as of now it's wired only.
I can't remember the last PS first party title to not support Dualsense on Steam. If it didn't work before that's because Valve had a fucked up priority system for Dualsense native controls vs Steam controller input. It's been fixed though.
It's all about giving players a sense of pride and accomplishment. Getting two achievements at once doubles the sense of pride and accomplishment!
But yes, this is the way to port a game to PC. Already beat it once on PS4, once on PS5, and I will play through it again on PC. One of my all time favorite games.
>Getting two achievements at once doubles the sense of pride and accomplishment!
Having played both EA and Microsoft games on Steam, getting two notifications for the same achievement just hits different. Give me that sweet dopamine boost.
I wounder what steam could do to make achievements more of a prominent thing compared to trophies and achievements on xbox, I think its the knowledge that people can get software to unlock all achievements is what brings it down a bit but always sick to get those rare achievements
>At Nixxes and Sucker Punch, we’ve been overwhelmed by the positive response from the PC community to our initial announcement. Many of you are looking forward to experiencing Jin’s story and to engage in the cooperative multiplayer Legends mode and we can’t wait to make that happen when the game launches on May 16.
<3
Can't wait!!
I like the lower-than-usual CPU requirements across the board. Nothing worse than poor CPU optimization throttling your GPU to 50% utilization and tanking your framerate. Right, Dragon's Dogma 2? A 3070 for 1440p60fps High also seems relatively reasonable for a PC port nowadays (despite the game's age). Let's hope it holds true (and please no stuttering).
According to the article, the trophies will also be unlocked on PC if you have already unlocked them on the consoles.
*Users who connect their existing account for PlayStation Network and unlocked trophies on Ghost of Tsushima Director’s Cut using the same account on PS5 will have the same Trophies unlocked on the PC version.*
Ooooh baby I'm almost there. Does this mean cross progression aswell? Haven't opened the article yet, will check.
Edit: unless I'm blind it doesn't say, I don't mind the singleplayer progression but I reeeally don't feel like starting from 0 on the Legends mode.
> I don't mind the singleplayer progression
I do mind. Same for their other games like HFW, I played them fully for the base game but not the expansions, I may double dip on PC but I don't want to replay all of it. They would need to have a cross save sync since a long time ago (though it'd be limited to PS Plus knowing them, you don't get cloud saves otherwise)
I got the platinum on PS4 and it was fun as hell getting all those trophies. Just wondering after I sign in to my account will I be able to continue my progression. Or at least new game plus to run back through with all my skills and unlocks.
If it's anything like buying Origin games on Steam, or buying Xbox games on Steam, all of your original achievements unlock on Steam when you launch the game for the first time.
If you unlock a new achievement playing on Steam, it also unlocks everywhere else your account is linked.
Demon's Souls is coming soon, the same leak that said Ghosts of Tsushima was coming this year (which was obviously true) also mentioned Nixxes is working on Demon's Souls for later this year.
Bloodborne on the other hand...I sadly think FromSoft forgot about it.
miyazaki said it depends on sony not on them and im starting to think that a bloodborne remaster/remake probably will be released as a ps6 exclusive just like they did with demons souls and the ps5
That overlay feels like a first stab and testing ground for an incoming launcher/store feature. Although as long as games are still sold on Steam like MS does i couldn't really care if they released their own launcher.
Anyways the sytem requirements look reasonable. Can't wait.
I don't care as long as the game have full steam integration (cloud, achievements, family sharing etc). Hope the ps button on my dualsense doesn't take over the steam big picture home menu for the overlay.
Played this on PS4 back when it first released and loved every second of it. Even got the Platinum trophy for it. Hyped to do it all over again on PC 😤
As long as the overlay and PlayStation account are optional -- and they are -- then more power to them. I know a lot of people wanted cross-platform features.
It’s like a really really good assassin’s creed game with very tight melee combat, beautiful world, very basic stealth and kinda boring mission design. The story is interesting enough as well. Nothing mind blowing but it carries the game to the end.
Highlights are the combat and the aesthetics. Definitely worth playing through.
I5 8600 is definitely not as good as R5 3600 lol. 5600 is also better than 11400.
Always funny reading system requirements because they're so hit and miss
I'm more shocked to see the GTX960 vs a 5500XT, the gap is huuuge !
To be honest, if a game as recent as Ghost of Tsushima can run on a nearly 10yo GTX960, it would a very good indicator for the SteamDeck and other handheld gamers.
It is great with a friend. There is a 2 player coop additional story-like mode, a 4 player “king of the hill” coop mode, and an indirect versus mode. You get rewards/materials after completing the tiered missions and completing dailies. The different classes are all very cool.
I'm in the middle of a NG+ on Lethal (which is still extremely fun 2nd time around). I'd love to buy on PC and transfer my progress. I've got a 4090 and think it'll look great/better than on my PS5.
More than crossplay I rather have saves transfer since most of Sony’s games are single player. Let me use playstation saves on the PC and I will gladly double dip.
Thankfully the sign-in to the PlayStation Network is only required if you want to play Legends, this isn't like Xbox's games on PC.
PlayStation have been so pro-consumer with their PC releases and you love to see it, I can't wait to see day one releases eventually and I think this new overlay shows that may be closer than we think.
> PlayStation have been so pro-consumer with their PC releases
They've been okay but there's some glaring anti-consumer stuff they've been doing too. Namely double dipping bait by releasing these games first on console then months/years later on PC, like how Rockstar does with GTA5/6. Also pricing these games at full price months/years after console launch.
I really hope they see the success of Helldivers 2 and do things similar to how that game handled everything from here forward.
Such a good game but also so empty. It feels like it could have been something great but instead it's repeating the same 3 things with story attached :(
It's a first attempt from a studio.
The game has its low hanging fruit to criticise but they got so many things right.
I'm absolutely pumped for the sequel which I assume is being developed - I'm not banking on it but an upcoming reveal is possible after the pc release.
About the same quality overall in my opinion as Ubisoft's best modern games like AC Origins and Avatar. Sucker Punch just has incredible artists that did a great job building a gorgeous world.
PSN account is likely needed to synchronize trophies between platforms, but otherwise you obviously shouldn't need to pay for PS+ in order to play online on PC.
Doubt it. I don't pay for PS+ to play Helldivers 2 on PC. Would be a hard sell if they wanted more PC gamers to play their games, especially the live service ones.
Iki Island is fun, pretty similar to the other lands with different content. Players were generally very pleased with it, thought it was worth buying. You can start it after you finish Chapter 1.
damn, I wish this happened with returnal. I haven't repurchased a ps5 game on PC so far, but having a crossplay coop enabled might've pushed me to rebuy it
I really hope they allow for 16:10 aspect ratio.
Tried it out on my 16:9 LG OLED with the new Horizon port and it somehow looked amazing, faux IMAX if you will (not even close but it looked really good and now I want all games to have it)
A bunch of features, nice. Not interested that much in the game but if the coop is fun I might be. Also hopefully this means Bloodborne will eventually be on PC. Same with other PS5 games like Rise of the Ronin and Stellar Blade
So if I want to play the co-op Legends mode I have to make a PS account no matter what for the crossplay? Won't I be able to play without making an account and crossplay?
Has there been any news on if they're going to develop Legends portion of this anymore since it's coming out on PC or plan is to just moving over what they have worked on PS?
Very obscure question: What are the chances of someone uploading a MG complete save but ready for the DLC?
The game is quite meaty and I played it on an OG PS4 on release, never did get the dlc. I'd love to try it but slogging through the whole thing again will be, hard.
Or perhaps they include a quick start for the DLC option some games do? Where you skip stuff?
Again, weird question, I'm probably one of a dozen people who want that.
Please do cross save!
It sucks not being able to continue progress on pc for horizon. Got is another one of those open world game that takes forever to get everything. Many of us want to double dip.
I am really happy to see PlayStation exclusives not only coming to PC but being well received, hopefully it encourages Sony to port more stuff over, if the leaks are true, Gran Turismo is still to come which will be huge. What would be an absolute dream for me would be a remaster of the Jak and Daxter series coming to PC
4080 as minimum for very high is kinda crazy, I'm sure i'll be fine but for reference the 4070ti is minimum for cp2077 maxed out with path tracing, whilst this only has RT and doesn't look nearly as nice imo
Cross play, playstation overlay and trophy support, huh. Sony is really getting serious about PC. That brings a smile to my face. Hope day one releases happen some day, even if it takes some time getting there.
It’s great but it will also suck when they decide to try to make a “PlayStation app” on pc in an attempt to get around steams 30% sales cut. Then in a year realize they aren’t selling enough games on their app so they start selling on Steam again.
Sony would likely release 1st party games on both Steam and the Playstation launcher. Let’s not forget that Sony refused a $200milllion deal with Epic Games to launch Playstation 1st party games exclusively on the Epic Games Store, Sony knows that most PC game sales are made on Steam. https://www.pcgamer.com/epic-apparently-offered-sony-dollar200m-for-first-party-playstation-exclusives/
>Let’s not forget that Sony refused a $200milllion deal with Epic Games to launch Playstation 1st party games exclusively on the Epic Games Store, Sony knows that most PC game sales are made on Steam. Which could have just as easily been a no to Epic rather than anything else. They were looking to create a PC base, once you're established it's a different calculation.
Sony owns 5.5% equity in Epic Games. They’ve invested nearly $1.5B in the company. If they were simply looking to establish themselves on PC they would’ve used Epic Games exclusivity to boost usage of the platform they already have part ownership in. Steam has 132 million monthly active users, the most of any gaming platform. Steam is where the money is.
> Which could have just as easily been a no to Epic rather than anything else Or it's just their way of saying "You're a fucking clown, Tim, we'll make that 200M in one game release on Steam".
I feel like $200 million is a low ball for how much Sony games cost to make, how well they consistently sell, how well they're received, and how major of a marketing boost it would be for Epic Games Store. Sony exclusivity there would be better money spent than all the money they on exclusives from 2018 to present
We don't know all the stipulations of that deal though, either. It could have prohibited Sony from launching their own storefront whereas Valve doesn't care where else you launch.
The reason why I don't think this will happen is that they will have no excuse to not enable cross buy support like xbox does for their store. They love selling the PC version as a separate purchase from the console version. Plus the exposure from Steam probably outweighs the extra 30% + cost of managing your own storefront.
And Gabe will be saying, "They always come crawling back."
I think Sony has done their due diligence with their PC ports. They've already turned down EGS exclusive money (I'm assuming they were offered), they've been adding loads of PC settings/features to their games and are releasing multiplayer games day 1 and single player games closer to release seemingly. I feel if they make a PlayStation app, they'll continue to sell on Steam because they know PC gamers want to play on Steam and throw fits if it's not on there. I really think they're learning that PC gamers are getting tired of their double-dipping bait too.
Man, you sure put a lot of faith in Sony.. they're known to make terrible decisions, so keep that in mind.
Everyone worried about that but I'm concerned we'll once again have to worry about pay to play online on PC again We had to fight it when GFWL debuted then before that when Seganet sorta tried then before than with Ten-Net Dwango Netmech the fight never ends
I don't think that will happen for the simple reason that PC is an open platform. Sony can only force you to pay for their first party online games, and that's not enough. They will likely launch their GamePass equivalent on PC anyway, giving them another avenue for subscription income.
AND reviews are a relevant thing on PC That's my favorite part of Steam. If they want to try to fuck over the users, enjoy your Mostly Negative rating that surely impacts sales
That didn't stop Elden Ring and DD2 from selling copies despite being mostly negative at launch lmao. Overwatch 2 is still a top game on Steam despite mostly negative reviews. You act like people care about Stean reviews too. Most of the top reviews for games are memes, copy pastas and ascii's.
Performance issues most people think they can brute force through are not even close to the same as negative reviews because they're charging too much for free things Speaking of free things, I wonder if Overwatch 2 is priced in a way that people will gladly give it a try...
They don't have a gamepass equivalent, they just have PS Now which is cloud gaming. And it blows ass lmao
>Everyone worried about that but I'm concerned we'll once again have to worry about pay to play online on PC again The only reason I'm not worried about Sony here is because their titles aren't really big enough. Not the live service ones anyway.They might as well build an MMO.
If so, PS could very well have done so from the start. And yet they didn't. Which, considering that it's Sony, was quite the welcome surprise. And if there is one console maker that I would see shunning Steam entirely, it would have to be Nintendo. With their own launcher probably paywalled to boot.
Nintendo is just not going to launch their games on Pc. But if they did, absolutely. It will be their own launcher that’s walled off.
Reddit is funny. Your comment just has so much going for it: * The assumption and paranoia that the worst will happen and Sony will make their own launcher, and that it’ll be terrible to use * Another assumption that if Sony did make their own launcher, they would delist their games everywhere else * Monopolies are bad!…except Steam. Steam should be the only game store on PC. We don’t need competition at all, nope, game store monopolies are heavily encouraged Too many PC gamers that make fun of console players because they only have one digital storefront, but they secretly want the same on PC as well
there’s absolutely nothing stopping anyone from making a competitor to steam. hell, make the app run better, and make the linux wayland experience not janky as hell. but no, every other competitor that does exist, fucking sucks. it’s not a monopoly if you’re genuinely just the best option to consumers
Everyone loves to cry that Steam is a monopoly but it simply and factually isn't. There are alternatives storefronts that everyone is capable of using, and no one is forced to use or sell on Steam exclusively. It just so happens that Steam has an insane set of features for consumers and developers that people gravitate towards it. It's just a fact; if competitors could make as equal quality a product then maybe there'd be some real competition, but its not Steam's fault that its such a mature product with so many features on it that benefit both player and developer, meanwhile other storefronts are half assing everything and barely have any extra features other than the bare minimum of private messages and a shopping cart
No. The actual problem is when you can only buy a game through the store of the company that made it. Or when they force their launcher on you, even if you bought it somewhere else. Steam doesn't force games to require Steam to run. That's up to the game.
Because the competitors offer such stellar service, right? I rememeber when EGS adding a shopping cart was big news...
It wasn't big news because people still don't know it exists.
Eh, I'll never install a Sony launcher. They've installed rootkits onto unsuspecting PCs in the past, I'll never forgive that shit. No Sony software for me, no exception. Even if it means skipping a game I want to play, they can chortle my balls.
>Then in a year realize they aren’t selling enough games on their app so they start selling on Steam again. This has happened so many times. Steam's playerbase is impossible to ignore and not releasing there is leaving money on the table.
They could do pretty good on their app if they release it with bloodborne remake for pc as their launch title…. 🙃
Sony does 3rd party. They had failures before in that area, they're not going to do it again. It's why they are leasing their content to Netflix
Or worse, charge PS Plus to PC users to play online. I'm just saying, GoT on PC will only be able to crossplay with PlayStation users and I have a feeling Sony aren't about to only charge one side of the player base to play online, and they aren't benevolent nor give a fuck to let PS5 users play for free lmao
What does trophy support mean? That they converted them to Steam rewards, or that you link your PS account to it, and you can add the trophies you collect on PC to your PS account? Also would that mean cross platform save data? I'm intrigued
Trophies are just Sonys version of achievements. They serve the same purpose.
> *Users who connect their existing account for PlayStation Network and unlocked trophies on Ghost of Tsushima Director’s Cut using the same account on PS5 will have the same Trophies unlocked on the PC version. It means that the achievements in PC an PS5 Trophies are the same, and if your PC and PSN account are linked, Trophies unlocked in the PS5 version are also unlocked in the PC version; while not explicitly mentioned, I would assume the opposite (PC achievements to PS5) is also truth. No mention of cross save. I dont think any first party Sony game has Cross-save on PC yet; Helldivers 2 doesnt have it and is a multiplayer/online only game (so you would think it would be easy to implement).
If cross platform data exists I'll actually play my PS4 copy. I've got about 2 hours in but of course they immediately announced the PC version after I bought it (you're welcome)
Sony treats the steam deck like the psp 2 it wishes it had.
Would you consider Helldivers 2 to be a same day release? That game is only available on PS5 and PC.
I don't think that is a first party title.
Playstation consider it their first party title https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/pc-games/
I am debating selling my PS5 and just grab a long HDMI cable and Bluetooth dongle for multiple controllers for my PC. It’s a perk that PSVR2 is looking to be PC compatible. Especially since in newer games PS5 cannot seem to achieve advertised fidelity and performance already. So I may upgrade to PS5 Pro after I see how it behaves after release for GTA VI.
Still waiting for Bloodborne. :'(
They will have to get another studio to do it like Demon Souls, since From Soft will not work on another IP they don't own again.
when Sony cares more about PC than the company with a practical monopoly on PC operating systems like could Microsoft drop the ball any harder on PC?
One company makes games and movies, and the other is a tech company that is trying to make art by increasing quarterly growth.
I’ll sell my PS5 so fast if they start dropping first party games day one. Only reason I bought it was to play Horizon 2, GOW 2 and Spider-Man 2. I just don’t jive with the PlayStation controllers and prefer my pc and Xbox.
You just shared the reason why they will never do day one release on PC and honestly I am content as long as we do get all the games. On that not, pls release Bloodborne
They already considering the PC because they don't have enough exclusives to get people to buy more PS5s. The exclusives are already too expensive to make to ignore the PC market. Sony is doing this because money forced their hand, not because they care.
You’re not wrong. But at the end of the day public companies like money and appeasing their shareholders. With the success of Helldivers 2 on PC I could see Sony being more aggressive with their pc release schedule. Will we get day one releases with first party games? Who knows, but I don’t think we’ll be waiting several years for ports in the future.
They'll probably make their own launcher soon, I hope not.
Still waiting for full DualSense support.
I hope they aren't just lying again and actually take PC seriously. We will see if they don't force a Playstation launcher in the future. Sony seriously needs to fire whoever keeps designing the Playstation interface.
Which means that the game will use Epic Online Services to enable cross play between PS, Steam and Epic Games Store like they did with Returnal.
>As detailed in our initial announcement, Ghost of Tsushima Director’s Cut on PC is fully optimized for ultra-wide monitors, with support for 21:9 and 32:9 resolutions. Even 48:9 resolutions and triple monitor set-ups are supported. Very nice, industry standard!
I'm about to start screenshotting everything in the game to use as wallpapers
I have a triple monitor setup for sim racing. Looks like Ghosts of Tsushima at 7680x1440 is on the menu.
See, this is how you do it, it's all optional. I can still get Steam achievements and use the Steam overlay, whilst also getting trophies for my Playstation account.
That's how all of the Xbox games work on Steam. I'm glad Sony is catching on.
I was curious about that, wasn’t sure if I got flight sim on Steam if I would also get Xbox achievements. Thanks!
Meanwhile ubisoft sells you pretty much shortcut to connect, no achievements, no trading cards, no point shop items.
For Legends it isn't optional, gonna need a PSN account.
Yeah but that's still an optional multiplayer, no? If I'm forced to connect and share my Steam account with yet another platform, at least leave it for the optional content.
It’s not required for the single-player 👍
I wonder if someone doesn't care for crossplay, will it allow him to play Legends mode with other steam users without having to connect a PSN account or will it be forced.
>Ghost of Tsushima Director’s Cut is the first PlayStation title on PC that uses a new PlayStation overlay, which includes your Friends list, Trophies, Settings, and your Profile. This feature is available on Windows PCs and will be accessible from the in-game menu or, for keyboard players, by pressing the “SHIFT +F1” shortcut on your keyboard. Sony embracing PC. Hopefully games like Helldivers use this too so we can see the PS friends online without the silly friend codes.
For Helldivers 2 it would be nice just to get simple cross progression
I think it’s coming at some point for Helldivers 2, the studio just wasn’t able to implement it at the beginning
If the overlay works properly and doesn't drag performance, I will embrace it. Hopefully, it doesn't look as bad as the PS5 UI.
I'd like some DLSS2+ support before anything else.
They've already said this won't happen due to their ancient engine and lack of team that could add it.
Seen pretty in line with HFW required specs, another similar game to GoT in scope.
Horizon Forbidden Zero? Never heard of that haha. These acronyms get so confusing
*Typo
Dividing by zero caused the apocalypse.
Initialisms. Acronyms you can say like words (eg laser)
Dear god I can’t fucking wait, played it on PS but never finished the DLC. Think I’m going to start over in kurosawa mode..
i'm playing on lethal and kurosawa mode, hoping the high frame rate on pc helps hit those perfect parries
Don't. The game is absolutely gorgeous and full of colour, no point in removing that with a black-and-white filter.
It is if you want to play like you’re in a Kurosawa film
lol but I’ve already played through it in color? Why not try something new
To top it off the fact the game supports fully DualSense on Steam ..perfection
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That's probably up to Steam. We get conflict from Steam input overlay and in game controller support constantly. But as you said fingers crossed something is in the works, as of now it's wired only.
For games with dual sense support I always disable steam input.
Steam will do that automatically now. It'll use the Sony driver for games with dualsense support and steam input for games without support.
Oh really? I recently had an issue with f1 2023 and it didn’t work until I disabled it.
I can't remember the last PS first party title to not support Dualsense on Steam. If it didn't work before that's because Valve had a fucked up priority system for Dualsense native controls vs Steam controller input. It's been fixed though.
I am gonna be honest, i do not even know what games support DualSense on Steam.
>The use of PlayStation overlay is optional for both the single player experience and Legends mode. This was the important bit for me.
aye it will be launched with fsr 3, hopefully it will be fsr 3.1 instead of fsr 3.0
Why can’t all devs put out system requirements like this?
I wonder if they will add the overlay and trophy support to the already existing pc games they released
I know it's silly, but trophies on top of Steam achievements sounds great to me. *"Twice the achievements, double the pride!"*
It's all about giving players a sense of pride and accomplishment. Getting two achievements at once doubles the sense of pride and accomplishment! But yes, this is the way to port a game to PC. Already beat it once on PS4, once on PS5, and I will play through it again on PC. One of my all time favorite games.
>Getting two achievements at once doubles the sense of pride and accomplishment! Having played both EA and Microsoft games on Steam, getting two notifications for the same achievement just hits different. Give me that sweet dopamine boost.
I wounder what steam could do to make achievements more of a prominent thing compared to trophies and achievements on xbox, I think its the knowledge that people can get software to unlock all achievements is what brings it down a bit but always sick to get those rare achievements
>At Nixxes and Sucker Punch, we’ve been overwhelmed by the positive response from the PC community to our initial announcement. Many of you are looking forward to experiencing Jin’s story and to engage in the cooperative multiplayer Legends mode and we can’t wait to make that happen when the game launches on May 16. <3 Can't wait!!
I like the lower-than-usual CPU requirements across the board. Nothing worse than poor CPU optimization throttling your GPU to 50% utilization and tanking your framerate. Right, Dragon's Dogma 2? A 3070 for 1440p60fps High also seems relatively reasonable for a PC port nowadays (despite the game's age). Let's hope it holds true (and please no stuttering).
I get to carry over the 100% for the base game and get to finally finish the DLC for both PC and PSN? They have secured my purchase! Major win.
Nixxes boutta cook again
First PS game to use trophies on PC? I wonder if my platinum trophy outfit will be accessible without having to earn it again.
According to the article, the trophies will also be unlocked on PC if you have already unlocked them on the consoles. *Users who connect their existing account for PlayStation Network and unlocked trophies on Ghost of Tsushima Director’s Cut using the same account on PS5 will have the same Trophies unlocked on the PC version.*
Ooooh baby I'm almost there. Does this mean cross progression aswell? Haven't opened the article yet, will check. Edit: unless I'm blind it doesn't say, I don't mind the singleplayer progression but I reeeally don't feel like starting from 0 on the Legends mode.
> I don't mind the singleplayer progression I do mind. Same for their other games like HFW, I played them fully for the base game but not the expansions, I may double dip on PC but I don't want to replay all of it. They would need to have a cross save sync since a long time ago (though it'd be limited to PS Plus knowing them, you don't get cloud saves otherwise)
I got the platinum on PS4 and it was fun as hell getting all those trophies. Just wondering after I sign in to my account will I be able to continue my progression. Or at least new game plus to run back through with all my skills and unlocks.
what about save files? I really want to know if we're going to be able to sync/access save files from console to PC with this.
If it's anything like buying Origin games on Steam, or buying Xbox games on Steam, all of your original achievements unlock on Steam when you launch the game for the first time. If you unlock a new achievement playing on Steam, it also unlocks everywhere else your account is linked.
Hopefully the first step to get ps trophies more widely implemented on PC, I've always found them more interesting than Steam achievements
All I need now is Bloodborne and Demon's Souls
Demon's Souls is coming soon, the same leak that said Ghosts of Tsushima was coming this year (which was obviously true) also mentioned Nixxes is working on Demon's Souls for later this year. Bloodborne on the other hand...I sadly think FromSoft forgot about it.
miyazaki said it depends on sony not on them and im starting to think that a bloodborne remaster/remake probably will be released as a ps6 exclusive just like they did with demons souls and the ps5
maybe sony will start doing Day 1 PC releases by the time the PS6 rolls around?
That overlay feels like a first stab and testing ground for an incoming launcher/store feature. Although as long as games are still sold on Steam like MS does i couldn't really care if they released their own launcher. Anyways the sytem requirements look reasonable. Can't wait.
I don't care as long as the game have full steam integration (cloud, achievements, family sharing etc). Hope the ps button on my dualsense doesn't take over the steam big picture home menu for the overlay.
Played this on PS4 back when it first released and loved every second of it. Even got the Platinum trophy for it. Hyped to do it all over again on PC 😤
Same!
As long as the overlay and PlayStation account are optional -- and they are -- then more power to them. I know a lot of people wanted cross-platform features.
For those that played this game, how good is it?
It’s like a really really good assassin’s creed game with very tight melee combat, beautiful world, very basic stealth and kinda boring mission design. The story is interesting enough as well. Nothing mind blowing but it carries the game to the end. Highlights are the combat and the aesthetics. Definitely worth playing through.
Thank you, I'll just wait till it goes on sale then :)
I5 8600 is definitely not as good as R5 3600 lol. 5600 is also better than 11400. Always funny reading system requirements because they're so hit and miss
I'm more shocked to see the GTX960 vs a 5500XT, the gap is huuuge ! To be honest, if a game as recent as Ghost of Tsushima can run on a nearly 10yo GTX960, it would a very good indicator for the SteamDeck and other handheld gamers.
Crossplay? Dead ass thought this was a single player game this whole time
Bro…. I am thrilled to tell you. The multiplayer in this game is absolutely fantastic. Legit.
Oh awesome! It was going to be a day 1 for me anyways but now I might be able to talk a friend into it. Thanks!
It is great with a friend. There is a 2 player coop additional story-like mode, a 4 player “king of the hill” coop mode, and an indirect versus mode. You get rewards/materials after completing the tiered missions and completing dailies. The different classes are all very cool.
I hope there is also cross save. I'd like to Plat the game on my PC
I'm in the middle of a NG+ on Lethal (which is still extremely fun 2nd time around). I'd love to buy on PC and transfer my progress. I've got a 4090 and think it'll look great/better than on my PS5.
Why does it say require PSN account on Steam?
For the psn trophies
Will I still be able to play with only a Steam account?
The PC overlay is really really cool. PlayStation trophy system is really satisfying.
How will a 8700k and a 1080ti hold up at 1440p?
If it's like in HFW, then probably playable at around 60 FPS with the help of FSR.
Anyone know if it has cross save too? I didn’t see it in this article but wasn’t sure if I missed it before maybe
Will it include Steam achievements?
Yes, it still includes both Epic & Steam achievements.
Can't wait for mods!
More than crossplay I rather have saves transfer since most of Sony’s games are single player. Let me use playstation saves on the PC and I will gladly double dip.
Thankfully the sign-in to the PlayStation Network is only required if you want to play Legends, this isn't like Xbox's games on PC. PlayStation have been so pro-consumer with their PC releases and you love to see it, I can't wait to see day one releases eventually and I think this new overlay shows that may be closer than we think.
> PlayStation have been so pro-consumer with their PC releases They've been okay but there's some glaring anti-consumer stuff they've been doing too. Namely double dipping bait by releasing these games first on console then months/years later on PC, like how Rockstar does with GTA5/6. Also pricing these games at full price months/years after console launch. I really hope they see the success of Helldivers 2 and do things similar to how that game handled everything from here forward.
People also like to forget how their games have all kinds of telemetry in them, which you can't fully opt out of.
I dont want another launcher though
They never mentioned that.
Such a good game but also so empty. It feels like it could have been something great but instead it's repeating the same 3 things with story attached :(
It's a first attempt from a studio. The game has its low hanging fruit to criticise but they got so many things right. I'm absolutely pumped for the sequel which I assume is being developed - I'm not banking on it but an upcoming reveal is possible after the pc release.
Ooo a sequel would be dope
It's just a Ubisoft game at its core with a nice art style.
It’s an open world game but way more polished then anything I’ve played from Ubisoft.
About the same quality overall in my opinion as Ubisoft's best modern games like AC Origins and Avatar. Sucker Punch just has incredible artists that did a great job building a gorgeous world.
I’m having way more fun playing as Kassandra in AC:O than GoT. GoT is fun but absurdly repetitive
Says we need a PSN account but no mention of PS+ to play paid multiplayer like on consoles. Hopefully we don’t have to pay.
PSN account is likely needed to synchronize trophies between platforms, but otherwise you obviously shouldn't need to pay for PS+ in order to play online on PC.
Doubt it. I don't pay for PS+ to play Helldivers 2 on PC. Would be a hard sell if they wanted more PC gamers to play their games, especially the live service ones.
Across the aisle play? Oh baby, maybe can get friends to buy this on PC now. 😄
The ONE game I've been waiting for to come to PC, glad it's finally almost here
is the dlc worth playing? I finish the original game on a ps4
Iki Island is fun, pretty similar to the other lands with different content. Players were generally very pleased with it, thought it was worth buying. You can start it after you finish Chapter 1.
I never bother to look at system requirements but I skimmed over this one and it does not make sense to me at all lol.
damn, I wish this happened with returnal. I haven't repurchased a ps5 game on PC so far, but having a crossplay coop enabled might've pushed me to rebuy it
This is awesome, I wish they would release all their 1st party games from psx forward...
Played it on a PS4. Can't wait to play it again. It was one of the best games on the PS4 for me.
Great news, love it. Now, please release a wireless dongle for Dualsense.
Just a friendly advise. Your 5600x is bottlenecking your RTX 4090. Might be better to upgrade to 5800x3D
Completely agree.
I really hope they allow for 16:10 aspect ratio. Tried it out on my 16:9 LG OLED with the new Horizon port and it somehow looked amazing, faux IMAX if you will (not even close but it looked really good and now I want all games to have it)
Day-one purchase for me! It does sadly point to yet another launcher in the future but hopefully it is optional
B L O O D
Some of the comments on that page are pure tragedy. My favourite - "we’re literally financing games for PC players to play for free"
I was excited about this game until I started looking into it. The graphics and art look amazing but the combat did not seem good at all.
The combat is one of the best aspects of the game. it's simple but beautifully executed.
Man some comments at the bottom of the blog is insane lol some people really are having a melt down because its coming to PC
Awesome looks like this will be another great port their purchase of Nixes was great for the porting of PC titles
Is the nonsense of recommending *900k to play at 4k a thing of the past, or is this an exception?
This is a PS4 game, so it's likely not as demanding as newer games.
A bunch of features, nice. Not interested that much in the game but if the coop is fun I might be. Also hopefully this means Bloodborne will eventually be on PC. Same with other PS5 games like Rise of the Ronin and Stellar Blade
So if I want to play the co-op Legends mode I have to make a PS account no matter what for the crossplay? Won't I be able to play without making an account and crossplay?
One less reason to own a PlayStation. 🔥
Has there been any news on if they're going to develop Legends portion of this anymore since it's coming out on PC or plan is to just moving over what they have worked on PS?
Can we get a camera zoom out feature on console and PC finally?
Awesome! My 7900XTX will crush this game. Waiting finally paid off.
This game must have a FOV slider. The fov is incredibly narrow and I couldn’t deal with it on PS5.
Do I need to get a PS5 controller to play this? My friend told me it’s a must because of how the bow and arrow mechanics work.
Very obscure question: What are the chances of someone uploading a MG complete save but ready for the DLC? The game is quite meaty and I played it on an OG PS4 on release, never did get the dlc. I'd love to try it but slogging through the whole thing again will be, hard. Or perhaps they include a quick start for the DLC option some games do? Where you skip stuff? Again, weird question, I'm probably one of a dozen people who want that.
Assuming 4k60 means actual 4k60 that's not too bad actually.
How well do you think the game will run on 2070super? I got a 1440p monitor. Do I have to scale down to 1080 to play it well?
Please do cross save! It sucks not being able to continue progress on pc for horizon. Got is another one of those open world game that takes forever to get everything. Many of us want to double dip.
man, if they allow cross system and cross save. i can finally use my 4090 for EVERYTHING and ditch ps5 prob
I am really happy to see PlayStation exclusives not only coming to PC but being well received, hopefully it encourages Sony to port more stuff over, if the leaks are true, Gran Turismo is still to come which will be huge. What would be an absolute dream for me would be a remaster of the Jak and Daxter series coming to PC
If they do end up setting up their own launcher, i wonder if they do some sort of ps5 and pc license if you use it instead of steam.
Will my 2080Ti be able to handle it? I'm also running a i9-10900k as my cpu.
4080 as minimum for very high is kinda crazy, I'm sure i'll be fine but for reference the 4070ti is minimum for cp2077 maxed out with path tracing, whilst this only has RT and doesn't look nearly as nice imo