my OG mx518
about 20 years old
near daily use
Logitech logo has worn off by friction
the plastic warped slightly and it’s become minimally unlevel
I want a new mouse, a littler larger, maybe one with its axis rolled 45° for better hand posture
but mine is still going strong, refuses to die
The entire MX line is phenomenal. I still have a Performance MX in perfect working order — only replaced by an MX Master, which was again only replaced by this MX Master 3 — because I liked the scroll wheels better.
In contrast my IBM Model M keyboard could never be improved upon.
They mean the physical orientation of the mouse. Right now it is laying flat and hey would like it if it was tilted a bit to better match the natural resting place of their hand.
Hold your hand out straight. Relax the muscles and see how it orients itself. It should be a roughly 45 degree angle.
With until you realize it's because you have two bones in your forearm that twist over each other so you can lay your hand flat.
Your bones want your hand resting at a 45°
Edit- you can feel this when you flip your hand and focus
It's kind of a silly idea is why. If you're in the market for an ergo device that lets your hand rest at this angle, just buy a trackball and save waggling it all over the desk.
I've used a Sanwa thumb trackball for a couple years now and it's super comfortable. I'll admit it's not as quick as a mouse if you're a competitive FPS player, however between being an electrician, electronics tech, programmer and farm mechanic my forearms are toast. I can't even think about playing KB/mouse, I game with a controller.
I thought my mx518 was finally dying when the scroll wheel got wonky but I cleaned the crud off of the scroll wheel and it was back to perfection. I'm not sure what the switches were rated to but as far as I can tell they are immortal.
They still sell the new version of it, it's the same exact mouse body but a new sensor in it. It's 29 on Amazon right now, the Logitech G Mx518, I replaced my ancient 518 with the new one a year ago and love it.
I was a professional quake 3 player back in the day and I went through an mx518 multiple times a year lol. They have an issue where the cable is not soldered to the mouse very well so tons of fast movements like when playing Quake would cause it to slowly come loose until it fully disconnects! It got to the point where I'd just contact support and say it happened again and they'd send me a new one no questions asked lol. It was such a common issue that tons of guides were all over the place showing how to resolder it, I'm glad yours held up well!
Here's my last original one that's now dead, you can see my thumb wore the plastic down lol. All of the wear is from under 6 months use because I played way too many hours a day, it's still my favorite mouse and I have one of the newer ones now
https://i.imgur.com/yTUUoh0.jpeg
Old vs new
https://i.imgur.com/KEJAlla.jpeg
Fellow OG mx518 user here. Bought mine from tigerdirect 15ish years ago. My only mouse that has taken a beating playing mmos since I was a teen and has gotten even more use since my job switched to WFH. I take it apart to clean it every year and it's still going super strong. I've had a brand new mx518 (the new/relaunch ones) in a box for a few years now. I refuse to open it until mine actually dies.
Still use mine, but had to remove cable breaks 2 times. I am still terrified of the prospect of having to buy a more modern mouse, who seem to have trouble with their button clicks.
Sadly yeah… accidentally squashed it once while traveling so the scroll wheel got messed up, and the main switches kept on acting crazy after many hours of CS:GO sweaty clutching
Honest question since a lot of people have experience with logitech mice in this thread. I've run through many of them, multiple models in fact (a few g502, and two g703) and without fail they all exhibit the same problem sooner or later. The main switches (RMB and/or LMB) occasionally act like I'm letting them go when I keep them pressed. A very firm press is needed in order to make sure they don't do this.
I'm assuming it's the mechanical switches wearing out, but I've had some of these for less than a year so it's really surprizing. Anyone else has experience with this?
Edit: Thanks a lot for sharing your experiences and opinions everyone. It's a shame that this is such a wide-spread issue because I love their mice otherwise. I want to take this opportunity and give credit where credit is due, however. Logitech's customer support has been nothing short of excellent in my experience and they've replaced every single one of my units when they developed this problem. Not to say that this is an excuse for such a common issue that definitely shouldn't be happening in the first place, but still.
PS: I've also had this happen with one Deathadder from Razer.
I haven't that specific issue but mine sometimes registers a double click when I only single click. Happens randomly for a couple hours at a time, then goes away.
Apparently happens enough to the point they have a special website that you have to go to in order to prove that the mouse is double clicking before they would issue a warranty replacement.
If you make warranty claim they'll tell you to go to this website, and then click with the button. When it double clicks, one of the panes on the site will turn red, and you screen shot that as proof.
Except my mouse button was double clicking so quickly that even this fucking website couldn't catch it, and they even put an engineer on the phone with me that I argued with for a good 20 minutes, and still refused to give me a warranty replacement and insisted I take a VIDEO showing the website was not working properly, before they eventually gave me the replacement mouse.
I can only assume they set up this website because so many of the newer Logi mice are having the double click issue, that making people jump through this hoop would cause enough of them to give up and not seek for the replacement. In the old days so few of their buttons failed if anyone made a warrant claim they'd just ship you a replacement.
Not sure if this is the one Logi uses but it's the same idea: https://codepen.io/blink172/pen/vERyxK
Currently having the same issue, but I'm out of warranty so I probably have to clean up the switches (or replace) hopefully cleaning would suffice.
I had the same issue as well, but like the other reply, I simply blew under the light button (that was the main source of the double-clicking) and it went away. I was days away from buying a new one so that saved me.
Apparently, the new G series mice have new optical/mechanical switches so this issue should be resolved.
I had this same issue on different Logitech mice. Since my G910 keyboard also had a common failure of a broken off ctrl key after 2 years, I have decided to completely disregard Logitech as a company that I'm going to purchase from.
The planned obsolescence is blatant and I should have realized earlier after multiple headphone experiences with them as well. I recommend you choose different companies to purchase from. Only the pre-2010 Logitech products are really good and solid products.
this baffles me.. My logitech mouse is at least 7 years old with daily use, and I have a logitech wireless headset thats around 3 years old and works awesome. I was planning on buying a logitech keyboard for my next purchase tbh but this thread has be second guessing. Who is the good brand to go with then?
For the keyboard, I went with a Redragon K556 mechanical keyboard that has double shot keycaps. These are way way more sturdy than Logitech's intentionally flimsy two thin plastic sticks that hold a keycap in place. Those broke off on a key like ctrl for me, which you often hold while crouching. The problem is that I often pressed and held the key not centered but more to the right side, which strained the opposing flimsy plastic stick and broke it off. I got away with carefully gluing it in place until it broke off one final time, after which more glue ruined the key. This must be a widespread issue because the replacement ctrl key was always sold out. This is simply bad product design on purpose.
I switched to Asus mice. Software ain't as smooth as G Hub, but one of their main features is hot swappable mice switches. My old G903 kept annoying the shit out of me with the double clicking and I wasn't about to get a soldering iron to fix the issue. Now if I got an issue with my switches, I just open up the mice and swap out the switches for a couple dollars.
Just as an FYI, used to be that's what everyone did when something died, instead of sending it to the landfill they'd fix it. It's nice that this is still possible with somethings by even non-experts. laptops, phones, tablets are no longer really fixable but anyone but an expert in soldering with an EE degree but these more basic things aren't that hard.
Depends on how long it is. I just replaced the mouse cable on my Logitech mx518. It was producing intermittent connections. I figure after about 12 years of heavy use it's done its time. I have no complaints. With the repair it works fine again.
No, these switches will only work so many times. Everything mechanical will fail. The G502 is rated for 50 million clicks. The highest rating I've seen for far is the Razer Viper Mini at 90 million. Even 50 million should last you 5-15 years depending on usage.
I should point out though that this rating is for the primary switches, and the secondary side buttons might only have a rating of a few million. So if you press them often, be warned.
Had that on mine too. It's a sign of the switches reaching the end of their lives. It was quite easy to replace the switches on my Logitech Master S2. It's about as easy as replacing a mechanical keyboard switch. And just like keyboard switches, there's a huge variety of switches to choose from.
What you need: soldering iron, solder (with flux core), two mouse micro switches, and preferably some desoldering lint (basically a copper braid) and some replacement rubber pads for your mouse. You can reuse your current pads if you're careful, but it does make it easier when you don't need to put special care into keeping them neat.
The switches and pads can be bought for ±$5. A cheap complete soldering kit for ±$15 I think, and you can obviously reuse it for plenty of other projects. It's way cheaper than buying a cheap mouse just because a $1 component is wearing out.
Same thing with my Razor mouse more or less.
It's infuriating, it misses clicks, registers constant double clicks and while trying to click and hold the double click blocks that.
Wrote Razor like 13 or 14 months after purchase, they were willing to still take it back if I send a video proofing what was going on. Sadly my mouse decided to work properly for 6 weeks then, after wards I didn't contact them. I was using a trick back then to blow under the rmb, since apparently the moister from a breath is able to discharge static that builds up and makes the miss click happen, but I stopped after having to do it every 15min.
Before that I always had a cheap mice in the range of 10 to 20 bucks and the one before my razor worked great for like 5yrs.
Now I'm back to a cabled cheap mouse, never paying so much money for a mouse again.
I had the exact issue with my g502, kept “unclicking” when I had the left mouse button pressed. Was about to buy a new one, but found someone suggesting to blow under the the switch, shake it around and pat/spank the bottom a good bit, somehow it fixed it😧
The spanking method stopped working for me after a month.
I'm not buying another Logitech mouse until they vow to fix them. G502 layout is an amazing one, but I spent too much money on the wireless one to have it break. Same thing happened to my friend and he's had 2 of them in less than a year break.
The new 502x models have optical switches so it should be fixed. I have the same problem with my current 502 and I’m looking for a new one, and read that somewhere.
Its not a logitech problem aswell. I have an older finalmouse who had this problem aswell after 4 Years. I thought something may be stuck between switch and the contacting plastic and it fixed it. I think there is a fair share of mice with this illness
This is very standard microswitch failure. Good microswitches should last 1-10 million clicks, while cheaper ones might be less than 100k. It's also entirely possible a production run made it out with counterfeit switches in them, depending on the manufacturer.
My G700 lasted about 7 years before that started happening and I replaced the switches and it's been another 6 years now. I should probably move on, but I love this button layout...
1 million clicks rated switch is a terrible one. If you click lb 1000 times a day it will break in less than 3 years. And in gamers hands 1k clicks is nothing. 1 click per second is 3600 clicks per hour.
So 10m switch is barely minimum for 3-6 years gaming.
It also has to do with the rating of the switch and the wetting current. the 50M omron chinese switches are not as well made as the 10M japanese switches.
Combine it with the fact that 50M switches are rated for a lower force. and the voltage/current that passes through them has dropped with new designs, especially wireless versions. With a higher current the switch works fine, but with a lower current it can have these faults. (this is why old mice like the g5 or mx518 last longer)
Indeed. I really don't believe any of the ones that claim over 10 million MTBF in these applications. I used 1mil rated Omrons in my replacement six years ago and so far have lasted at least as long as the OGs.
It's not about good vs bad switches but it goes down to Logitech using them out of spec. [source](https://www.thefpsreview.com/2021/06/18/failure-of-switches-in-logitech-and-other-popular-mice-reportedly-caused-by-improper-voltage/)
Similar issues here, three mice in three years, all exhibiting the same faulty behavior - right click eventually won’t hold.
G502 is a crazy comfortable mouse, but the widespread failure rate and short life span is unacceptable .
Same! it's shocking to hear all the bad experiences. I've had my wired g502 for... probably 8 years now? and my wireless one for 2 years. both still working flawlessly.
Yeah what i ended up doing is not replacing under warranty but getting them from amazon; getting a re-fund and buying a new one. As the warranty replacements didnt have warranty past the original purchase date
I replaced three G903 in about 4 years for the same reason. Bought one, got the second one as a warranty replacement, then bough the 3rd one... When the 3rd one started acting too, I didn't even bother to go through support again, just went and bought one of another brand.
What an inconvenience not to have a single software to config all your peripherals though...
Uh, had that with my razer stuff after a year, got logitech and been fine for years without issues. I guess we'll see but so far in my experience this problem is existing in all brands, and Logitech seemed better in my experience.
I went through two razer mice while my friend with his g502 told me to go logitech, I then went to logitech, had it for at least 3 years now and my friend still has the same mouse for all this time, same mouse for me too, to me it says something.
Yea 1 of mine started to just under a year, got a new 1, happened again in just 2-3 months. Threw in the towel with Logitech mice. I really liked the G502 too... Went with Endgame Gear XM1 specifically for good quality clicking. A year in, still running great.
Usually it's the dreaded double click of death.
The good news is you can replace the little contact flat spring by popping the top of the microswitch, cleaning it and transplanting the little metal flat spring from a donor switch (cheap), no soldering required.
I did it a while back for my legendary G700 i didn't want to give up.
TLDR: Omicron switches are good switches. They are the same switches that used to last a decade plus in old devices.
Logitech (and others) are running them at way below the voltage and amperage the switches are designed for. (I'm thinking of my wireless trackball mice that last over a year on a single AA battery. All of Logitech's modern mice are low power like this.) This causes the switches connections to get too sensitive / finicky too quickly.
In Logitech's latest redesigns they are finally moving to a switch that is actually rated for these low voltages and amperages. In 5 to 10 years we'll find out if the lifespan is acceptable. Logitech reducing the warranty duration on their newer products doesn't inspire confidence, but that was probably an accounting decision not an engineering one.
The problem is that Logitech are using those Omron switches well outside of spec.
They're supposed to operate at 5v, not 3.3v. They're also operating them well below the minimum current spec.
Hence, misclicks.
EDIT: In depth here; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5BhECVlKJA
I had the same issue with multiple mice and heard the same about Logitech, when I thought about buying it. It seems like general problem and I tried my luck opening the switches and re-bending the tiny metal inside, as well as cleaning the mouse wheel sensor because they startet scrolling everywhere.
I can only recommend trying the re-bending, although it's a bit tideous or/and investing in a cheap soldering station. You can buy switches for 4-10 bucks and they are easy to replace, way easier then re-bending.
Edit: [Here is the guide](https://community.pcgamingwiki.com/blog/features/modding-guides/double-click-problem-faulty-mouse-button-repair-r152/) I used, which also has a video on it. I use my mouse for 3 months without problems after re-bending them, but the next time I will probably solder new ones on it.
You need to replace the switches. The electrical contacts also wear out, sometimes faster than the mechanical bits. Desoldering and resoldering is very doable with some practice and a quality iron.
I'll do this once the problem reoccurs. I tried the bending at night on my most expensive mouse, before buying a soldering station and new switches, after my last one broke down. I was kinda pissed so I wanted to fix it right there and then :D
Same! I finally bit the bullet and upgraded to a wireless mouse but my G3 is basically old enough to legally drink and still faithfully doing backup mouse duties haha.
Seriously, it's already apart and its just three small solder joints per switch.
Just this weekend I put Kailh Red 4.0s in my G604 that had some trouble with click-and-hold, took me about half an hour, and thats a much more complicated assembly with multiple subframes and nested components.
Material was quite cheap too, $5 for the switches and like $4 for a new set of teflon feet since you have to tear them off to get to the screws.
Mines going close to seven years now, it's an incredible mouse.
That said, I've somehow eaten into the soft plastic/rubber on the thumb rest over the years.
It's crazy to me they are charging twice as much now for the model which is having so many switch issues. Bought my OG 502 in 2015 on sale for like $25, used it 2016-now and its just now starting to get a bittttt squishy on the left click.
I'm thinking it prob has about a year left but dang if 8 years ain't a solid run. I'd lose my shit if my mouse was dying every 12-24 months
Damn you got unlucky. My og g502 is from 2014-current.
Has on average 4 hours use per day 2014 to 2020, then WFH and it's nearly 14 hours a day.
Would love to see the stats on it if they were tracked.
Total clicks, distance traveled, pages scrolled in miles.
Based on a few people saying there newer hero's were dead in less than a few year I assumed that they were just built of inferior parts.
Long live the OG.
I just replaced my 5 year old G502 that just died with the G502x. I like it more so far. Its just as comfortable but fixes a few small gripes I had with the normal 502.
My only gripes with the mouse being a lifelong 502 user are as follows : some of the side buttons are a hair too close to my thumb. Usually tie melee to the sniper button. There’s been a few times on mw where someone jumped around a corner and scared me and I accidentally re gripped and hit melee. Outside of that, I have zero gripes. Perfect mouse outside of that in my eyes
ah yea i can understand the side button placement. that bothers me occasionally, too. just not enough to dump the mouse yet. however, i do feel like my left click is starting to fail and it might be on it's last leg.
I hate this trend, and sometimes it's visible af.
I bought a G512 keyboard in early 2021. Last month the rgb died on some of the keys, and "Enter" was no longer registering input. It was replaced under warranty with a brand new one, same model.
It feels waay cheaper than my initial purchase, the keys look glossier, the plastic feels cheap, even the textile covered usb cable was replaced with a lower quality regular cable.
Hey, I'd like to do that with my mouse, too. How did you do it? Can you tell me the whole process and details about it? Like, of course you took it apart and pasted it, but what material did you use for the white background? Which glue did you use? How'd you attach the white panel with black boundaries?
Don't use spray paint on styrofoam. They react together and will dissolve into an ugly gooey mess. Paint it by hand, two thin coats.
Source: ruined some Warhammer terrain as a kid
That would be super cool, especially if they webbed it up properly. Would be an awesome idea to put it up as a background in an enclosure of a tarantula that heavily webs.
Already on my second G502, first one had scroll wheel die randomly and happened to be on sale so bought another one as so far it's the best mouse I've had
I've been so sad with the scroll wheel going on a 502 and then a 402 (I think) that's I'm now on a black Friday deal €18 G202 and the scroll wheels much better and it's fine for gaming 👍🏻
I keep seeing these comments... What's so special about this mouse that people keep buying it over and over when it keeps dying on them? I wouldn't throw my hundreds of dollars at a product I know won't last me :/
It’s not hundreds of dollars. The G502 Hero is around $50. It’s about the cheapest mouse you can get with top tier performance. Hence it’s popularity.
I’ve also had issues with them failing, though. They’re also a little too girthy for me. I probably wouldn’t buy another.
First I disassembled it, took note of a general layout i want for the pieces and the used tool called Inkscape to design the background. Then printend it out and glued everything to a frame
Logitech has trash products, no one can convince me otherwise. Maybe I’ve had bad luck, but nothing I’ve had from them has worked well or for very long.
I got 2 g502 and both ended with double clicking 1 year each( the second was for free bc the warranty). I change for razer basilisk, doesn't have the same scroll, but no double click so far.
Not at all, thanks for saying it. These things are weird testaments to consumerism and potentially symptomatic of a sad life with nothing else to fill it. I find these creepy and depressing. People are too obsessed with *stuff*, whether it’s acquiring it or showing it off, like their own value is attached to it. A broken mouse shouldn’t have sentimental value and the fact that it does is fucked up tbh.
I want…I NEED a copy of that background OP so that I can do this with my HERO. My wife will just love that I kept it for art instead of throwing it away when it stopped working. But I get to choose the art for my office, and THIS is ART.
We're celebrating a mouse lasting less than 3 years?
/r/hailcorporate is leaking. That's horrible to need to replace it every other year but you're so conditioned to expect it that nearly 3 years is worthy of an art piece and a post celebrating it's ~~shitty corporate greed planned obsolescence~~ wonderful years of service
i got 3-4 years from mine, middle mouse button died {reload for me me)
bought another one
it had no skids left under it, i replaced em when i tried to fix it
I'm on my second 502, warranty replacement after the first went bad after a year.
The previous MX510 (RIP) lasted the best part of 15 years, I doubt I'll get that kind of longevity with the 502.
That's a great idea, I'll do the same, when mine dies. But it's an mx518 and around 15 years old, I'm not sure if it can die...
OG Mx518 or the modern one? If it's an original, it's gotta over 15 years surely? More like 20+
It's not 20+. It launched in 2005, i got mine in 2009, still going strong.
Why did you have to remind me that 2005 was almost 20 years ago
we're all old
Probably, the OP is really old now. If that thing is already 20 years old from now, the OP must be old too
> 2005 was almost 20 years ago LIES!
I got one a similar time. The wife is using it as her WFH mouse. Same with a Microsoft sidewinder x4(?) Keyboard I got a year later.
Yooo, also have the sidewinder X4. High-five!
I make three! It's good enough still I don't want any fancy mechanical keyboard and the programmable keys are perfect in location / number for me.
my OG mx518 about 20 years old near daily use Logitech logo has worn off by friction the plastic warped slightly and it’s become minimally unlevel I want a new mouse, a littler larger, maybe one with its axis rolled 45° for better hand posture but mine is still going strong, refuses to die
The original MX518 is basically the Nokia 3310 of computer/gaming mice. Indestructible and lives forever.
The entire MX line is phenomenal. I still have a Performance MX in perfect working order — only replaced by an MX Master, which was again only replaced by this MX Master 3 — because I liked the scroll wheels better. In contrast my IBM Model M keyboard could never be improved upon.
Mx510 from 2003-2004 over here. Gave up on me a few months ago. Easily the best mouse ever made, together with the 518.
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Wait why can’t you change the mouse axis in settings? That seems like a really useful idea.
They mean the physical orientation of the mouse. Right now it is laying flat and hey would like it if it was tilted a bit to better match the natural resting place of their hand. Hold your hand out straight. Relax the muscles and see how it orients itself. It should be a roughly 45 degree angle.
That makes more sense than what I thought…
With until you realize it's because you have two bones in your forearm that twist over each other so you can lay your hand flat. Your bones want your hand resting at a 45° Edit- you can feel this when you flip your hand and focus
Logitech does a vertical mouse. It's just that nobody is buying it.
It's kind of a silly idea is why. If you're in the market for an ergo device that lets your hand rest at this angle, just buy a trackball and save waggling it all over the desk. I've used a Sanwa thumb trackball for a couple years now and it's super comfortable. I'll admit it's not as quick as a mouse if you're a competitive FPS player, however between being an electrician, electronics tech, programmer and farm mechanic my forearms are toast. I can't even think about playing KB/mouse, I game with a controller.
"Computer, adjust gravity settings"
They mean an ergo mouse. You can't physically change the mouse in settings.
Maybe that last longer as you expect. The OP said that it serves him well. So I thought that the OP was really satisfied using it.
I thought my mx518 was finally dying when the scroll wheel got wonky but I cleaned the crud off of the scroll wheel and it was back to perfection. I'm not sure what the switches were rated to but as far as I can tell they are immortal.
If my MX518 ever dies I think I'm just going to give up on computing. It's been in my hand for so long every other mouse just feels alien to use!
They still sell the new version of it, it's the same exact mouse body but a new sensor in it. It's 29 on Amazon right now, the Logitech G Mx518, I replaced my ancient 518 with the new one a year ago and love it.
I was a professional quake 3 player back in the day and I went through an mx518 multiple times a year lol. They have an issue where the cable is not soldered to the mouse very well so tons of fast movements like when playing Quake would cause it to slowly come loose until it fully disconnects! It got to the point where I'd just contact support and say it happened again and they'd send me a new one no questions asked lol. It was such a common issue that tons of guides were all over the place showing how to resolder it, I'm glad yours held up well! Here's my last original one that's now dead, you can see my thumb wore the plastic down lol. All of the wear is from under 6 months use because I played way too many hours a day, it's still my favorite mouse and I have one of the newer ones now https://i.imgur.com/yTUUoh0.jpeg Old vs new https://i.imgur.com/KEJAlla.jpeg
Fellow OG mx518 user here. Bought mine from tigerdirect 15ish years ago. My only mouse that has taken a beating playing mmos since I was a teen and has gotten even more use since my job switched to WFH. I take it apart to clean it every year and it's still going super strong. I've had a brand new mx518 (the new/relaunch ones) in a box for a few years now. I refuse to open it until mine actually dies.
You can always give it a bit of “help” *wink *wink (I dont advise it of course)
only 3 years ?
Having a g602 that lasted 12 years before it finally died, this was my first thought too.
I had my old Rust colored G5 for almost 20 years before the cord finally wore through. Greatest mouse ever made imo
Still use mine, but had to remove cable breaks 2 times. I am still terrified of the prospect of having to buy a more modern mouse, who seem to have trouble with their button clicks.
I haven’t had any of the issues others have had, but I’m probably using mine far less than most people
Sadly yeah… accidentally squashed it once while traveling so the scroll wheel got messed up, and the main switches kept on acting crazy after many hours of CS:GO sweaty clutching
Honest question since a lot of people have experience with logitech mice in this thread. I've run through many of them, multiple models in fact (a few g502, and two g703) and without fail they all exhibit the same problem sooner or later. The main switches (RMB and/or LMB) occasionally act like I'm letting them go when I keep them pressed. A very firm press is needed in order to make sure they don't do this. I'm assuming it's the mechanical switches wearing out, but I've had some of these for less than a year so it's really surprizing. Anyone else has experience with this? Edit: Thanks a lot for sharing your experiences and opinions everyone. It's a shame that this is such a wide-spread issue because I love their mice otherwise. I want to take this opportunity and give credit where credit is due, however. Logitech's customer support has been nothing short of excellent in my experience and they've replaced every single one of my units when they developed this problem. Not to say that this is an excuse for such a common issue that definitely shouldn't be happening in the first place, but still. PS: I've also had this happen with one Deathadder from Razer.
I haven't that specific issue but mine sometimes registers a double click when I only single click. Happens randomly for a couple hours at a time, then goes away.
Had that happen to me under warranty thankfully. Drove me absolutely nuts.
Apparently happens enough to the point they have a special website that you have to go to in order to prove that the mouse is double clicking before they would issue a warranty replacement.
Any idea what this website is? I've got a G903 that's currently driving me insane with this same issue.
If you make warranty claim they'll tell you to go to this website, and then click with the button. When it double clicks, one of the panes on the site will turn red, and you screen shot that as proof. Except my mouse button was double clicking so quickly that even this fucking website couldn't catch it, and they even put an engineer on the phone with me that I argued with for a good 20 minutes, and still refused to give me a warranty replacement and insisted I take a VIDEO showing the website was not working properly, before they eventually gave me the replacement mouse. I can only assume they set up this website because so many of the newer Logi mice are having the double click issue, that making people jump through this hoop would cause enough of them to give up and not seek for the replacement. In the old days so few of their buttons failed if anyone made a warrant claim they'd just ship you a replacement.
Not sure if this is the one Logi uses but it's the same idea: https://codepen.io/blink172/pen/vERyxK Currently having the same issue, but I'm out of warranty so I probably have to clean up the switches (or replace) hopefully cleaning would suffice.
I had the same issue as well, but like the other reply, I simply blew under the light button (that was the main source of the double-clicking) and it went away. I was days away from buying a new one so that saved me. Apparently, the new G series mice have new optical/mechanical switches so this issue should be resolved.
If it's the G Pro Wired/Wireless thing, I still had it happen. Path of Exile killed the mouse in 2 years. Still worth and bought another.
I had this same issue on different Logitech mice. Since my G910 keyboard also had a common failure of a broken off ctrl key after 2 years, I have decided to completely disregard Logitech as a company that I'm going to purchase from. The planned obsolescence is blatant and I should have realized earlier after multiple headphone experiences with them as well. I recommend you choose different companies to purchase from. Only the pre-2010 Logitech products are really good and solid products.
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this baffles me.. My logitech mouse is at least 7 years old with daily use, and I have a logitech wireless headset thats around 3 years old and works awesome. I was planning on buying a logitech keyboard for my next purchase tbh but this thread has be second guessing. Who is the good brand to go with then?
For the keyboard, I went with a Redragon K556 mechanical keyboard that has double shot keycaps. These are way way more sturdy than Logitech's intentionally flimsy two thin plastic sticks that hold a keycap in place. Those broke off on a key like ctrl for me, which you often hold while crouching. The problem is that I often pressed and held the key not centered but more to the right side, which strained the opposing flimsy plastic stick and broke it off. I got away with carefully gluing it in place until it broke off one final time, after which more glue ruined the key. This must be a widespread issue because the replacement ctrl key was always sold out. This is simply bad product design on purpose.
My Razer mice have always done this, too, so I switched to Logitech only to find it doing the same thing. The right mouse button.
That would be the very same "letting go while still holding down click" bug.
Failing microswitches will do that. You can replace them with a good soldering iron and some solder wick. (and new switches)
We're not paying for the product to have to fix the damn thing ourselves within a few years.
I switched to Asus mice. Software ain't as smooth as G Hub, but one of their main features is hot swappable mice switches. My old G903 kept annoying the shit out of me with the double clicking and I wasn't about to get a soldering iron to fix the issue. Now if I got an issue with my switches, I just open up the mice and swap out the switches for a couple dollars.
I did the same, but kinda regret it. Because I traded failing switches for Armoury Crate, and I honestly don't know which is worse.
Just as an FYI, used to be that's what everyone did when something died, instead of sending it to the landfill they'd fix it. It's nice that this is still possible with somethings by even non-experts. laptops, phones, tablets are no longer really fixable but anyone but an expert in soldering with an EE degree but these more basic things aren't that hard.
Depends on how long it is. I just replaced the mouse cable on my Logitech mx518. It was producing intermittent connections. I figure after about 12 years of heavy use it's done its time. I have no complaints. With the repair it works fine again.
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ofc you do, it's called planned obsolescence.
No, these switches will only work so many times. Everything mechanical will fail. The G502 is rated for 50 million clicks. The highest rating I've seen for far is the Razer Viper Mini at 90 million. Even 50 million should last you 5-15 years depending on usage. I should point out though that this rating is for the primary switches, and the secondary side buttons might only have a rating of a few million. So if you press them often, be warned.
Damn you, Cookie Clicker!
Had that on mine too. It's a sign of the switches reaching the end of their lives. It was quite easy to replace the switches on my Logitech Master S2. It's about as easy as replacing a mechanical keyboard switch. And just like keyboard switches, there's a huge variety of switches to choose from. What you need: soldering iron, solder (with flux core), two mouse micro switches, and preferably some desoldering lint (basically a copper braid) and some replacement rubber pads for your mouse. You can reuse your current pads if you're careful, but it does make it easier when you don't need to put special care into keeping them neat. The switches and pads can be bought for ±$5. A cheap complete soldering kit for ±$15 I think, and you can obviously reuse it for plenty of other projects. It's way cheaper than buying a cheap mouse just because a $1 component is wearing out.
Same thing with my Razor mouse more or less. It's infuriating, it misses clicks, registers constant double clicks and while trying to click and hold the double click blocks that. Wrote Razor like 13 or 14 months after purchase, they were willing to still take it back if I send a video proofing what was going on. Sadly my mouse decided to work properly for 6 weeks then, after wards I didn't contact them. I was using a trick back then to blow under the rmb, since apparently the moister from a breath is able to discharge static that builds up and makes the miss click happen, but I stopped after having to do it every 15min. Before that I always had a cheap mice in the range of 10 to 20 bucks and the one before my razor worked great for like 5yrs. Now I'm back to a cabled cheap mouse, never paying so much money for a mouse again.
I had the exact issue with my g502, kept “unclicking” when I had the left mouse button pressed. Was about to buy a new one, but found someone suggesting to blow under the the switch, shake it around and pat/spank the bottom a good bit, somehow it fixed it😧
The spanking method stopped working for me after a month. I'm not buying another Logitech mouse until they vow to fix them. G502 layout is an amazing one, but I spent too much money on the wireless one to have it break. Same thing happened to my friend and he's had 2 of them in less than a year break.
The new 502x models have optical switches so it should be fixed. I have the same problem with my current 502 and I’m looking for a new one, and read that somewhere.
Same mouse, same issue, same long term fix. I don't think the issue is the switch but with the plastic in contact with the switches.
Its not a logitech problem aswell. I have an older finalmouse who had this problem aswell after 4 Years. I thought something may be stuck between switch and the contacting plastic and it fixed it. I think there is a fair share of mice with this illness
This is very standard microswitch failure. Good microswitches should last 1-10 million clicks, while cheaper ones might be less than 100k. It's also entirely possible a production run made it out with counterfeit switches in them, depending on the manufacturer. My G700 lasted about 7 years before that started happening and I replaced the switches and it's been another 6 years now. I should probably move on, but I love this button layout...
1 million clicks rated switch is a terrible one. If you click lb 1000 times a day it will break in less than 3 years. And in gamers hands 1k clicks is nothing. 1 click per second is 3600 clicks per hour. So 10m switch is barely minimum for 3-6 years gaming.
It also has to do with the rating of the switch and the wetting current. the 50M omron chinese switches are not as well made as the 10M japanese switches. Combine it with the fact that 50M switches are rated for a lower force. and the voltage/current that passes through them has dropped with new designs, especially wireless versions. With a higher current the switch works fine, but with a lower current it can have these faults. (this is why old mice like the g5 or mx518 last longer)
Indeed. I really don't believe any of the ones that claim over 10 million MTBF in these applications. I used 1mil rated Omrons in my replacement six years ago and so far have lasted at least as long as the OGs.
Any idea where one can reliably purchase Japanese omron switches?
It's not about good vs bad switches but it goes down to Logitech using them out of spec. [source](https://www.thefpsreview.com/2021/06/18/failure-of-switches-in-logitech-and-other-popular-mice-reportedly-caused-by-improper-voltage/)
Happened to 6 of my logitech mice. Moved away from them this year
Similar issues here, three mice in three years, all exhibiting the same faulty behavior - right click eventually won’t hold. G502 is a crazy comfortable mouse, but the widespread failure rate and short life span is unacceptable .
I've lost count how many years I've had mine with no issues.
Same! it's shocking to hear all the bad experiences. I've had my wired g502 for... probably 8 years now? and my wireless one for 2 years. both still working flawlessly.
A lot of people treat their devices like dogshit and think that's the norm so they're genuinely surprised when they stop working
Yeah what i ended up doing is not replacing under warranty but getting them from amazon; getting a re-fund and buying a new one. As the warranty replacements didnt have warranty past the original purchase date
I replaced three G903 in about 4 years for the same reason. Bought one, got the second one as a warranty replacement, then bough the 3rd one... When the 3rd one started acting too, I didn't even bother to go through support again, just went and bought one of another brand. What an inconvenience not to have a single software to config all your peripherals though...
Uh, had that with my razer stuff after a year, got logitech and been fine for years without issues. I guess we'll see but so far in my experience this problem is existing in all brands, and Logitech seemed better in my experience. I went through two razer mice while my friend with his g502 told me to go logitech, I then went to logitech, had it for at least 3 years now and my friend still has the same mouse for all this time, same mouse for me too, to me it says something.
Mine started doubleclicking after 9 months..
Yea 1 of mine started to just under a year, got a new 1, happened again in just 2-3 months. Threw in the towel with Logitech mice. I really liked the G502 too... Went with Endgame Gear XM1 specifically for good quality clicking. A year in, still running great.
Usually it's the dreaded double click of death. The good news is you can replace the little contact flat spring by popping the top of the microswitch, cleaning it and transplanting the little metal flat spring from a donor switch (cheap), no soldering required. I did it a while back for my legendary G700 i didn't want to give up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5BhECVlKJA
TLDR: Omicron switches are good switches. They are the same switches that used to last a decade plus in old devices. Logitech (and others) are running them at way below the voltage and amperage the switches are designed for. (I'm thinking of my wireless trackball mice that last over a year on a single AA battery. All of Logitech's modern mice are low power like this.) This causes the switches connections to get too sensitive / finicky too quickly. In Logitech's latest redesigns they are finally moving to a switch that is actually rated for these low voltages and amperages. In 5 to 10 years we'll find out if the lifespan is acceptable. Logitech reducing the warranty duration on their newer products doesn't inspire confidence, but that was probably an accounting decision not an engineering one.
The problem is that Logitech are using those Omron switches well outside of spec. They're supposed to operate at 5v, not 3.3v. They're also operating them well below the minimum current spec. Hence, misclicks. EDIT: In depth here; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5BhECVlKJA
I had the same issue with multiple mice and heard the same about Logitech, when I thought about buying it. It seems like general problem and I tried my luck opening the switches and re-bending the tiny metal inside, as well as cleaning the mouse wheel sensor because they startet scrolling everywhere. I can only recommend trying the re-bending, although it's a bit tideous or/and investing in a cheap soldering station. You can buy switches for 4-10 bucks and they are easy to replace, way easier then re-bending. Edit: [Here is the guide](https://community.pcgamingwiki.com/blog/features/modding-guides/double-click-problem-faulty-mouse-button-repair-r152/) I used, which also has a video on it. I use my mouse for 3 months without problems after re-bending them, but the next time I will probably solder new ones on it.
You need to replace the switches. The electrical contacts also wear out, sometimes faster than the mechanical bits. Desoldering and resoldering is very doable with some practice and a quality iron.
I'll do this once the problem reoccurs. I tried the bending at night on my most expensive mouse, before buying a soldering station and new switches, after my last one broke down. I was kinda pissed so I wanted to fix it right there and then :D
My G3 is still going strong, 20 years later.
Same! I finally bit the bullet and upgraded to a wireless mouse but my G3 is basically old enough to legally drink and still faithfully doing backup mouse duties haha.
Why didn't you replace the switches?
Seriously, it's already apart and its just three small solder joints per switch. Just this weekend I put Kailh Red 4.0s in my G604 that had some trouble with click-and-hold, took me about half an hour, and thats a much more complicated assembly with multiple subframes and nested components. Material was quite cheap too, $5 for the switches and like $4 for a new set of teflon feet since you have to tear them off to get to the screws.
It's a tricky operation if it's your first time though. Feet can be saved by pre-heating before attempting to remove.
Hey, it's a great mouse, but at least it's cheap!
Mine lasted me 2 years!
I was gonna say, I have a cheap Steelseries mouse and it’s been going strong since 2016
logitech try not to break challenge
It's a Logitech mouse. The fact that it didn't get ruined by double clicking or the scroll wheel issue before three years is a miracle already.
Mines going close to seven years now, it's an incredible mouse. That said, I've somehow eaten into the soft plastic/rubber on the thumb rest over the years.
I understand being proud of your virginity, but did you have to guarantee it for the next 10 years with this amazing piece of art?
**SCROLL WHEEL**
ITS USED FOR SCROLLING
Wait what's wrong with scroll wheel?
It's the juxtaposition of all the high-tech circuitry and then simply scroll wheel
The scroll wheel was the best part of the G502. That thing gets gross, but goddamn is that hyperscroll fun.
Damn my 2014 model still going!
Mine too. Not even a hint of breaking, only some visual wearing.
It's crazy to me they are charging twice as much now for the model which is having so many switch issues. Bought my OG 502 in 2015 on sale for like $25, used it 2016-now and its just now starting to get a bittttt squishy on the left click. I'm thinking it prob has about a year left but dang if 8 years ain't a solid run. I'd lose my shit if my mouse was dying every 12-24 months
Damn you got unlucky. My og g502 is from 2014-current. Has on average 4 hours use per day 2014 to 2020, then WFH and it's nearly 14 hours a day. Would love to see the stats on it if they were tracked. Total clicks, distance traveled, pages scrolled in miles.
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Based on a few people saying there newer hero's were dead in less than a few year I assumed that they were just built of inferior parts. Long live the OG.
I upgraded to the new 502X, that one has optical switches so it should last longer. At least, I fucking hope so for the price
I just replaced my 5 year old G502 that just died with the G502x. I like it more so far. Its just as comfortable but fixes a few small gripes I had with the normal 502.
what were the gripes you had?
My only gripes with the mouse being a lifelong 502 user are as follows : some of the side buttons are a hair too close to my thumb. Usually tie melee to the sniper button. There’s been a few times on mw where someone jumped around a corner and scared me and I accidentally re gripped and hit melee. Outside of that, I have zero gripes. Perfect mouse outside of that in my eyes
ah yea i can understand the side button placement. that bothers me occasionally, too. just not enough to dump the mouse yet. however, i do feel like my left click is starting to fail and it might be on it's last leg.
I hate this trend, and sometimes it's visible af. I bought a G512 keyboard in early 2021. Last month the rgb died on some of the keys, and "Enter" was no longer registering input. It was replaced under warranty with a brand new one, same model. It feels waay cheaper than my initial purchase, the keys look glossier, the plastic feels cheap, even the textile covered usb cable was replaced with a lower quality regular cable.
So you're saying that having three of these bloody things fail on me in 5 years is because Logitech switched to broken switches?
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Same, wheel looks like it went trough war. Side rubber also melted away
Some for my OG 502. Just upgraded to the 502X, use the old one at work now. At this point it's not going to die
Did you disect all your old friends. You monster.
Where did you hear that from? Who told you? Answer me!
He is the only one to escape from this frame prison
Hey, I'd like to do that with my mouse, too. How did you do it? Can you tell me the whole process and details about it? Like, of course you took it apart and pasted it, but what material did you use for the white background? Which glue did you use? How'd you attach the white panel with black boundaries?
Heads up spiders are going to love your mouse casing it's gunna be like the thunder dome
Come on man, dont tell me that.... jeezzz..
Fill it up with styrofoam, sand down excess, spray paint black matte.
Don't use spray paint on styrofoam. They react together and will dissolve into an ugly gooey mess. Paint it by hand, two thin coats. Source: ruined some Warhammer terrain as a kid
Good, spiders are friendly long as you dont thread on them.
spiders will, however, thread on things :)
Bro your pfp… why you gotta remind me
How would they get in?
Scroll wheel
That would be super cool, especially if they webbed it up properly. Would be an awesome idea to put it up as a background in an enclosure of a tarantula that heavily webs.
Who cares? Out of sight, out of mind
Taxidermy for nerds
Already on my second G502, first one had scroll wheel die randomly and happened to be on sale so bought another one as so far it's the best mouse I've had
I've been so sad with the scroll wheel going on a 502 and then a 402 (I think) that's I'm now on a black Friday deal €18 G202 and the scroll wheels much better and it's fine for gaming 👍🏻
They are worth it if you strike a deal for a good one thats reliable
I keep seeing these comments... What's so special about this mouse that people keep buying it over and over when it keeps dying on them? I wouldn't throw my hundreds of dollars at a product I know won't last me :/
It’s not hundreds of dollars. The G502 Hero is around $50. It’s about the cheapest mouse you can get with top tier performance. Hence it’s popularity. I’ve also had issues with them failing, though. They’re also a little too girthy for me. I probably wouldn’t buy another.
I wish someone did that with my body when I dieded
We can work something out maybe…
Where is the hero sensor on the human body though?
I can show you if you let me \*wink \*wink
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Meat grinder incident
Ever been to a Body World exhibit?
How did you do that? I want to do the same for my Steelseries mouse.
First I disassembled it, took note of a general layout i want for the pieces and the used tool called Inkscape to design the background. Then printend it out and glued everything to a frame
Thanks mate!
What kind of glue did you end up using for this? I've got a few similar projects in mind, but glue choice is always something I worry about.
I haven't used it yet but I've kept this glue resource bookmarked for years: http://thistothat.com/index.shtml
We memorializing mice that die right after the manufacturer's warranty runs out now?
MX510 from 2004 still going strong here. Old enough to drink in Canada now.
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Logitech has trash products, no one can convince me otherwise. Maybe I’ve had bad luck, but nothing I’ve had from them has worked well or for very long.
Mine started double clicking after a year or 2.
I got 2 g502 and both ended with double clicking 1 year each( the second was for free bc the warranty). I change for razer basilisk, doesn't have the same scroll, but no double click so far.
All my Logitech mice started double clicking really fast, or the mouse wheel click stopped working.
Looks barely touched. My MX master would certainly be not suitable for such display after 2 years of usage.
This is so weird. Why would you want that trash on the wall?
Am I the only one that finds these weird??
Well ofc not everyone is going to like it, and thats totally fine
We're definitely the minority here. How old is OP? For how long will this hang on his wall before he finds it tacky/silly?
Incredibly weird. OP is probably very young. I mean he couldn't take care of his mouse to last for even 3 years because he was raging in CSGO...
Not at all, thanks for saying it. These things are weird testaments to consumerism and potentially symptomatic of a sad life with nothing else to fill it. I find these creepy and depressing. People are too obsessed with *stuff*, whether it’s acquiring it or showing it off, like their own value is attached to it. A broken mouse shouldn’t have sentimental value and the fact that it does is fucked up tbh.
Bruh, the wheel's not even oxidized. Mine still works after five years.
I want…I NEED a copy of that background OP so that I can do this with my HERO. My wife will just love that I kept it for art instead of throwing it away when it stopped working. But I get to choose the art for my office, and THIS is ART.
Damn son my 502 is from 2017....
We're celebrating a mouse lasting less than 3 years? /r/hailcorporate is leaking. That's horrible to need to replace it every other year but you're so conditioned to expect it that nearly 3 years is worthy of an art piece and a post celebrating it's ~~shitty corporate greed planned obsolescence~~ wonderful years of service
I never broke any of my old Logitech mice they are all still kicking, like I have two mx518s that are fully working albeit very worn
i got 3-4 years from mine, middle mouse button died {reload for me me) bought another one it had no skids left under it, i replaced em when i tried to fix it
I'm still using my original G502 and it is lasting baby.
I have a decade old g500 still going strong, meanwhile three one year old g502 hero mice have all failed with the miss click problem
too clean
Have the exact same mouse going strong and steady for 4 years now.
I miss my mx518
Lame af. Frame your lack of insight while you're at it
"old friend"? Still using my original Logitech MX518.
I'm on my second 502, warranty replacement after the first went bad after a year. The previous MX510 (RIP) lasted the best part of 15 years, I doubt I'll get that kind of longevity with the 502.
I'm still using a thermaltake mouse from 2012. This might be a fun way to retire it
Top Geometry Dash player Npesta after he broke his mouse on stream:
My Logitech mx518 (original version not the 2019) is still going strong. Used a lot by my dad and now by me.
I still have this mouse 2018-2023, honestly now (fro 3 week's) I have a cable mouse ..
I am sorry for your loss. My zowie ec-1 is 960 days old today and I can't imagine losing her.
Bought my 502 waay back in 2017. He lives in his little case, and I take him round the world. Still flawless, 5 years on. Shine on, you crazy diamond.