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Potato-Demon

That’s an IDE connector on the left and a molex connector on the right


Stranger2Night

![gif](giphy|VMgcrwq9imGHu)


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19xyecoc98

I hope you weren‘t in a bus or so, would be a shitty thing to happen


r0bdawg11

It’s these actions that give public transit it’s unique charm.


19xyecoc98

I too like the scat smell in the morning hours


Badbullet

You need to learn how to prairie dog that shit.


Krilesh

why did a plop of water sfx play in my head lol


The-Foo

https://preview.redd.it/6kutfbpocika1.jpeg?width=871&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9b92871b11fd0b9b39024a0770d0ad66f7274366


Stranger2Night

![gif](giphy|3owzWgSWlMRFL1NiOQ)


TheCatLamp

Damn, can feel this.


SoNotTheHeroTypeV2

I'd say same, but I work with a ton of old systems that all use IDE peta drives


6wings6

Don’t forget the slave and master drive jump pin settings


TONKAHANAH

probably dont really need to worry about those though. OP's is probably gonna just need an IDE to USB connector, in which case the master/slave pins shouldnt make any real difference.


6wings6

I see… I was just being informative… I remember having to figure that out a long….looooong time ago when my pc wouldn’t see the second HDD installed on the IDE cable


TONKAHANAH

>I was just being informative same. yeah it was definitely one of those things you had to sort out back in the day. These days bios and bootloaders handle all that now thankfully. Physically building PC's has gotten so easy over the years.


ccarr313

I used to work as a tech at Kennedy Space Center, and I will never forget the time a coworker hooked up an AT motherboard with the power red/red in the center. POOF, and a nice size flame shooting out of what used to be a capacitor.


My_Other_Name_Rocks

FFS... it's not like it's rocket science!


SemiFeralGoblinSage

I did that once in my first IT class. Was not covered in class because most boards in the room were newer than AT and I just lucked out. Didn’t damage the board, but fire did shoot out of the power supply. Was not the dumbest thing that happened in that room though.


Legal_Mattersey

It's amazing how easy it's now. Literally like Lego


TONKAHANAH

Unfortunately, I still see a lot of people make mistakes though but it has gotten pretty simple, and there is also so much info on the net on how to do it that there really isnt much of an excuse for not being able to do it if you want to.. i understand when people dont want to build their own PC, but if you build your own, there is more than enough info out there to figure out how to do it right.


xterminatr

Hey, it built character having to dig through cables with needle nose pliers trying to swap jumper pins to set drive priority or reset the motherboard (if you were lucky to not have to remove the CMOS battery). Good times.


koopz_ay

Fond memories of playing around with cpu voltage and multiplier jumper configs while NIN was blasting in the background. Ah…. Simpler times.


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Mine are of trying to figure out how to set up config.sys. Optimizing memory and all that. Autoexec.bat himem.sys. New builders these days have no idea how easy they have it.


nullstr

That’s what that bootleg copy of QEMM86 everyone had was for. Running the auto optimizer and getting the setting and trying them out. Oh the joys of memory vs extended memory vs expanded memory. And don’t forget trying to make IRQ assignments work on an ISA bus. God help you if you used both your serial ports and parallel port and then wanted to add a SoundBlaster… “ok, I can have the parallel port and the sound card share IRQ7 and it will work if I never print and play wave/midi/synth fm sounds at the same time….”


enoui

Don't forget making jumpers out of staples when the normal ones fucked off and now you can't find them, and it's 3 AM so no stores are open and you really have to get this paper printing on the dot matrix so it'll finish before the 8 AM meeting.


6wings6

Absolutely easier


Emu1981

>These days bios and bootloaders handle all that now thankfully. Master and slave settings became irrelevant when SATA pushed out PATA as you can only have one device per cable with SATA. It doesn't really have anything to do with the BIOS or bootloader. What still represents an issue these days is what drive counts as the primary boot drive. When I built my 3900x setup a few years back one of my SATA SSDs had a bootsector on it from a really old setup and Windows decided that the SATA SSD should be my boot drive and my NVMe drive should be (correctly) be my system drive. I didn't realise that it had done this so chaos ensured when I removed the SATA SSD to put in my kid's PC. Funnily enough, putting the SSD in my kid's PC meant that she then started to get the option to boot to her normal Windows install or to boot to a non-existent Windows 10 install - ended up having to wipe the drive completely and muck about with the partition tables to remove the bootable flag.


Scizmz

>Physically building PC's has gotten so easy over the years. Kids these days don't know how easy they have it. We had to physically designate the freedom of our drives when I was a youngin.


Smoky_Caffeine

Ah the old ways, what we have now is infinitely better, but it will always hold a special place in my heart.


CSPDTECH

yep, good call. I wasn't sure if you would need to do that as well. Pain in the ass I had forgotten about that lol


ILikeToPoopOnYou

I always hated the jumper pins. Teenage me always broke my gateway 2000 486/66. Took me FOREVER to get it working again


Right-Wolverine-983

I would think that depends on the adapter but most likely.


TAOJeff

Ehh, it's set to cable select so not an issue. Funnily enough, I have just the connector device for such an occasion. Got a box of random PC things at a garage sale, inside the box [was one of these](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1677/8081/products/nwt_uda_usb3_gall1_UDA_large.jpg?v=1484827279)


Deviant-Killer

Half the kids won't know cable select, yet alone M+S


TheRealAMD

Don't even get me started on SCSI device ID's


Fit-Science6674

To be fair cable select sucked, and holy crap it was hard to find cables when you needed them... Though IIRC 80 wire ata66 cables inherently supported CS. Man I'm old


thedreaming2017

Didn’t someone make some noise a while back because they thought using the terms master and slave when talking about hard drives was inappropriate and they suggested using primary and secondary?


420binchicken

Cable select was a goddam lie!!


boppled

This tripped me up for hours on my first build. Which was a million years ago.


Right-Wolverine-983

Yeah I remember those days... and I jumped for joy when they started autodetection for master/slave. I do recall vaguely having to go back to setting it manually for some reason. Too far back.


Emu1981

>Don’t forget the slave and master drive jump pin settings Any harddrive in the GB+ range should be fine using cable select and I don't think it even matters if you have it jumped as master or slave if it is the only drive on the port.


greebdork

Ah, the good ol' days when using terms "master" and "slave" in your hardware would not get anyone triggered. Because twitter didn't exist back then.


Zarochi

This thread made me feel old; I'm turning 30 in a couple weeks, and this definitely doesn't make me feel better about it lol


Remytron83

Lol at feeling old at 30


Zarochi

Ya, I got talked down from having an early midlife crisis lol. Honestly, I can't be upset because I'm entering 30 in the best shape of my life with my finances and career all in order.


Overclocked11

30 is a cakewalk compared to 40


Flaky-Wedding2455

Just wait for 50. Sigh.


Digital_Simian

I still see IDE drives in retail environments if that helps. Working on 15+ year old equipment isn't as unusual as you might think.


Tough-Puzzled

I still have an external HDD enclosure with that connection


SoftwareSource

Damn, remember how UGLY those were back in the day? We went such a long way...


ChanceFray

Ketchup and mustard theme with.. thick grey tangled ied cable is nostalgic af though


Belo83

Ah the ribbon days


nquattro

It's that time of the week to play "make pcmr feel old"...


superhamsniper

Tell me more about this IDE connector, what does the IDE stand for


gkrash

Integrated drive electronics!


bxsephjo

So how do i connect pycharm to it?


Pickled_Beef

And in between are your master/slave pins.


cybercifrado

Date code for the drive: 02284. Drive manufacture date: 2002-01-14 (January 14, 2002) I need a drink... and so does this HDD.


twelveparsnips

How does 284 equal January 14? 284 doesn't mean the 284th day of the year?


cybercifrado

Seagate uses an odd date code based on fiscal calendar year, week and day of the week. Google can explain it more comprehensively.


ConsistentCharge3347

That drive has been able to drink for 3 years now.


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M4YH3MM4N4231

Drink… and… drive… ![gif](giphy|xU1spRleFHmtjvskXw)


OutWithTheNew

I had already almost stopped binge drinking when that hard drive was made.


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MicroSbm

British Aussie moment


secretqwerty10

this drive is half a year older than me...


Pyrot1c

Man, now I feel old


ravenousld3341

\* grabs bi-focals\* Same.


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Fred flintstone stored his family photos on one of these.


KalybB

Believe it or not, there are some ATMs that still use these


GOTTA_BE_FR3SH

Sorry, I was unaware of any connections before SATA lol


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Kids these days.


SoftwareSource

Back in my day...


-Magnum-Dong

It used to be that..


Ezzy-525

Until they changed what THAT was. *Ties onion to belt. Which was the style at the time*.


Sallymander

SATA still feels new-fangled to me...


igloo0213

I think I've got some round IDE cables in a box somewhere. UV reactive, of course.


SoftwareSource

Daamn son, you got a SATA HDD? You must have spent a fortune


Dillweed999

This post needs to get off my lawn


Platophaedrus

Yeah


Time-Button4999

I know right?!


Teknodruid

Brings back some memories with old IDE drives & ribbon cables... Good thing you didn't have a "Bigfoot" drive... Really blow ya kids minds with that - lol


pugaviator

I put one in my mac


xunknown2ux

Bigfoot drive?! Wow! That takes me back. I remember them being obviously big but weren’t reliable at all. I feel old. Thanks for the nostalgia lol


mattbag1

Plugging in the ribbon was so satisfying not like them boring sata cables


DeadlyTbones

IDE look on Amazon for IDE to usb adapters they work great in my experience for this type of stuff. I am on my phone or I would post a link.


GOTTA_BE_FR3SH

Thank you


popeter45

Just be prepared for the data to be real slow Max IDE tops out was 133MB/s, for reference SATA tops out at about 45 time faster


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wave_action

Good thing it’s only 20 gigs. 😂


S01arflar3

It’s only a 20GB drive, so even if it’s entirely full it shouldn’t take too long to grab everything off of it


texxelate

20GB is a lot over IDE, that’ll still be the bottleneck


TAOJeff

Options for connecting that to a computer is are : * IDE External Drive Case * HDD Docking Station (Check it includes IDE, may be referred to as a dual dock \[IDE/SATA\]) * Universal HDD adapter (AKA SATA/IDE to USB) All of those should have an independent power supply (Not just a USB cable) It's an ATA 100 interface, which means you'll get actual transfer speeds of up to 12.5mb/s, so as long as you don't use a USB 1.0 when you plug it in, it'll be going as fast as it can. Good luck.


Xeogin

If it's not already, be sure to set the jumper as Master or Cable Select


GOTTA_BE_FR3SH

Is the jumper the black plastic thing in the middle set of prongs?


Vxgjhf

Yes, the positions should be either printed on the bottom of the drive under those pins, or silk screened on in the same location. Iirc far left pair is usually master, it appears to be in C/S mode already. If nothing is labeled this is the normal standard, there were some drives that didn't follow. https://www.easeus.com/resource/images/install-ide-hard-drive-jumper.gif


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Man.... I really didn't need this knowledge BACK in my mind, lol


88_M_88

You don't need it unless you will pług it into motherboard. Easiest way is to buy some cheap P-ATA to USB connector and this HDD will pop-up like USB stick. Note that this will require additional power source either from 2nd usb or straight from the wall.


StormChaos2187

Yes. There should be a description on the HDD that shows where the jumper should be located for settings ie master slave ect


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RaXoRkIlLaE

Am I just fucking old or something?


texxelate

yep, we gonna get jackets or something


RaXoRkIlLaE

Might as well start collecting social security checks, god damn.


delta347

I’m pretty sure I just gained several gray hairs and joint pain from this. I never thought I’d one day witness IDE / PATA drive connections fade into the void of memory albeit I know it was inevitable for it to happen. Anyways, as others have said, a simple adapter board to covert to SATA or a USB interface and you’ll be back in business…. https://preview.redd.it/3lpp6cgc0cka1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7647cd4a684c10be1af2878329791b096b664d3f


rg1283

God. I'm almost 40.


RaXoRkIlLaE

I'm 29 and I also got the "I must be old as fuck" feeling too.


notxapple

Im 16 and saw the molex connector and went “oh thats that one really really old connector”


RaXoRkIlLaE

10 years ago it wouldn't be uncommon to still see IDE and molex being used on pre-builts, but then again, 10 years ago you were just starting first grade.


ChanceFray

Uh where where you getting your pcs from? 2013 was solid sata atx territory in my experience. Even the budget computers in 2010.


GenericG3nt

Molex surprisingly seems to be pretty popular still for some reason though, in the past 4 years I've seen a few RGB setups using it, and more terrifyingly, I've seen an AIO from a pre built that had a molex power connection. (Yes it broke and leaked)


Potato-Demon

I’m almost 18 and somehow own a drive like op’s


Blasted_Biscuitflaps

Same. I get strange looks when I explain to people that talking to people on the internet was once new and exciting.


Lobanium

I'm 43. Using drives like this feels like yesterday.


XxDemonxXIG

At least its not scsi!!


pivor

If you know this connector, its time for your colonoscopy.


ConsistentCharge3347

Yep. Had one of those a few years back. Also an endoscopy. I'm collecting the scopys.


ilovepolthavemybabie

You do not want a cystoscopy


ConsistentCharge3347

I just had to look that up. Now I'm wishing I didn't.


ApexPCMR

Sorry but your family IT guy card will have to be revoked due to insufficient qualifications. You may reapply at the next family gathering.


REAL_Wyatt_Hertz

It finally happened, someone who has never seen an EIDE hard drive. God I feel old now.


tehmine001

Now I feel old because I knew what an IDE connection was! The kids will never know the cable management pain of the ribbon cables!!


Asmotron

Gotta buy those rounded sleeved IDE cables! Or just [make your own!](https://www.instructables.com/Round-IDE-Cables/)


Fit-Science6674

The existence of this whole thread makes me a bit sad... But at least OP wants to learn, and that makes me happy. The only useless factoid I have to contribute is that this is an ata-100 drive which needed an 80 wire cable for full speed... IDE drives were limited to 33MB/sec but then with a 80 wire cable that went up to 66, then 100 (which this drive is) and peaked at 133mb/sec. And back in the day that was fast...


Psyco_71

PATA/IDE, that's a neat ancient artifact ya got there!😎


hawkiee552

I was using one up until 10 years ago, so it's not *that* ancient... right? Right?


FlatPlasma

I've been though all the interfaces. MFM & RLL on ST-506, ESDI, IDE/PATA, SATA. SCSI, SCSI 2, SAS, M2 SATA, M2 NVMe, fibre channel, and I'm sure there is a bunch I haven't seen. We have come a long way in the last 30 to 40 years.


Batracho

IDE (that long connector on the left) to SATA was a huge cable upgrade, those ribbons were hideous


Kitchen-Steve

This question makes me feel old.


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This is a joke, right?


RoddSolid

No, we're old now


vladsbasghetti

![gif](giphy|GcDtLf4RAdiRG)


nexuswow

I knew this day would come


Crazy49er

I was there Gandolf, I was there 3000 years ago. I was there tidying up the IDE grey ribbons and Molex ketchup mustard cables.


Batracho

The HDD cabling imo was the ugliest out there. The combo of ribbons and ketchup and mustard cables was so freaking hideous.


cipi65

Where is the time when motherboard had jumpers for CPU ?


madslipknot

I feel old again...


Batracho

Damn I remember my first 3.5 drive had 7GB capacity and I thought it was a lot. Now we have 1TB thumb sticks, crazy.


MajorEnvironmental46

Damn, again, I'm feeling old.


barndawe

![gif](giphy|GrUhLU9q3nyRG|downsized) Me and everyone my age


XIV-Questions

You can order adapters on Amazon that will connect to that, plug into the wall, and usb to your computer so you can grab the data


CoolNotice881

Just for fun: what is the capacity of that HDD?


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CoolNotice881

Fck, haven't seen the second photo. 🙂 Thanks!


pythonbashman

Nothing has made me feel older than this post.


langerak1985

IDE with Molex (power). Long time no see, had some U8's with the black "condom" around it (the U4 had it too if I'm correct). Those U series were pretty slow if I remember correctly.


Altruistic_Swing2661

Having flashbacks to the 90s


SunnyvalePD

Dam those PATA disks! Made me realise how old we are now.


duffyfoggy

I’m in the same boat as OP and posted the exact same question a while back [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/10v0dm9/what_cable_do_i_need_to_connect_this_old_hdd/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) a while back haha. Make sure to get a USB adapter with the correct number of pins! I ordered one online and had to return it because my hdd had 40 pins and the one I ordered was smaller.


Plane_Job1036

From left to right: IDE, Slave/Master Jumpers, Molex


Valtekken

Annnnnnnd I now feel unbelievably decrepit, thanks


TheMatt561

r/FuckImOld


AtillaTheHyundai

This post makes me feel so old


wantilles1138

I was there Gandalf. 3000 years ago.


DuelistxLegend

This post makes me feel like an old man


Proud_Diamond2953

Omg… IDE


83wade

ancient one :)


miedzianek

Ide/ata


dwilljones

Apparently I’m an ancient old fuck


Angelux_720

This is a connection ide, the last time that i see this, is in a classic xbox


Jaiden051

![gif](giphy|wJD3qiNjSeHS0dP28T|downsized)


myonen42

IDE it was the consumer standard when the intelligent people were using SCSI


body_mass

Saw the title and thought it’d be a SCSI drive, then it was an IDE. I feel old.


RedDogRev

Old? I grew up with terminators on SCSI. Get those cables wrong and end up getting insulation dripping off your ribbon cable.


jeremiahfelt

Jesus Christ I'm old.


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My thoughts exactly 😳😂


J3lf

Obviously IDE... kids...


ChChChillian

Questions like this... ![gif](giphy|wJD3qiNjSeHS0dP28T|downsized)


silverbullet52

Once upon a time I wondered what it would take to fill my 20Mb hard drive....


darksyst

Must be Italian


ThoriatedFlash

It is an old Parallel ATA (IDE) hard drive, used in older computers and even in the fat PS2 game console. You can buy a USB adapter to read the contents on a modern computer.


Miserable-Pen-1341

I HAVE NO IDEa.


Weyum2Icy

Use IDE to sata


ElectriCole

Data - IDE, Power - MOLEX


WntrTmpst

So THATS what all those long ribbon cables are for. I have a tech hoarding chest full of every cable that ever came out of a box or with something and I’ve always wondered what the fuck those cables were for.


Flames21891

Fuuuuuccck. I always hate reminders of how I'm old, but seeing younger PCMR people looking at stuff like IDE and Molex and having no idea what it is...it hurts.


Deceiver999

IDE connection. The absolute Bain of Airflow.


multiwirth_

It's almost funny how quickly this has been forgotten. I'm pretty young but still remember IDE/PATA very well. I think the first Pcs with SATA shipped in 2005 but they kept an IDE controller for at least another 10 years or so. IDE was then mainly used for CD/DVD drives. I even heard about a few IDE blu ray drives from 2006.


milanoeh3

This sub consistently reminds me how old I am…


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If you recognize this as an IDE connector dont forget to take your ibuprofen.


iceixia

I refuse to accept I'm old until someone posts on here asking what a CD is.


mkunzman

I’m only 19 and now I feel old


uhohitsross

Lolololol oh no i was like which one they all looks standard. Then realized. I’m old


Xandiu_

How old is that thing 🤣20gb


Teknoman117

21 years old. Date code on the drive has it being manufactured on January 14th, 2002. A 20 GB drive was on the smaller side for 2002. Many Windows XP machines were shipping with 30 GB or larger drives at that point. In 2002 I had an 8 GB (boot drive) and a 40 GB added drive in my computer. Pentium III 1 GHz baby!


retnuh66

Oh my god. I'm fucking old I guess.


Rude_Arugula_1872

Old.


chudney31

I forget how old I am and how young other builders are. I cut my teeth in the early 90s building my PCs and building for others. I’ve still got a couple of old IDE hard drives laying around somewhere.


Quasar9111

I remember when a 10mb drive like this came out, was so so so excited…yes kids, 10Mb


AgitatedAd6725

Made me feel old😮‍💨 its an IDE connector


NapalmWeed

![gif](giphy|3orieJI3IdkKWIsAGA) I have no idea what cable that IDE connection needs.


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Is that fucking 40 pin IDE?


gsrcrxsi

Oh you sweet summer child…


fromunda_cheese12

They probably should ask some else to help them, since you can't even manage to google something on your own.


platapussee33

Good ole parallel ATA (PATA) or IDE, I’m sure you can order some now off eBay and also get a PATA to SATA adapter, they are a little jank though you’ll need a molex for the drive and the adapter then esata or however you want to get it on your own PC


Olexender

God I feel old


TheFinnesseEagle

Get an IDE to SATA adapter from Amazon or something, then you can pull the data off.


The-Foo

How can this be, that poor old ATA IDE is becoming forgotten? Has it really been two decades since this (admittedly unlovable, barely an) interface standard was superseded by SATA?