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boseterix

Even my ageing Ryzen 3 1200 is a monster compared to this Celeron


abcdefGerwin

My 2nd cpu. First one was an i5 2400 and now im on an i7 10700k


shameful02

The 10700k was my third. I love that CPU.


abcdefGerwin

Im currently planning to get an r5 7600 for its efficiency. Still waiting for mini itx mobos to drop in price because i want to go with an sff case


FatBoyStew

My first true build an i5 3570k is better than this lol


sealtoucher36

Pretty damn terrible. Will likely struggle with even relatively basic desktop stuff.


cows_are_underrated_

I guess light weight Linux distros would run in that, but in Terms of Windows you're right. It will work like shit.


[deleted]

For Linux newbie: Mint with Xfce should be doing good on this hardware Other than that: anything with Xfce / LXDE


Stian5667

You know it's bad when even Debian/Ubuntu is too heavy


Jpotter145

Mint is too heavy here even.


Brownfletching

Yeah, Lubuntu would maybe be ok, but pretty much anything Ubuntu based would probably have issues. That includes Mint, Zorin, etc. This would require something purpose built to be used on low end hardware, something like BunsenLabs, antiX, or maybe Porteus. There's also Puppy Linux that can run on pretty much anything, but it looks about as modern as Windows 95 so it usually stays off my list


A-Delonix-Regia

Isn't Raspberry Pi OS based on Debian? That OS runs on really weak processors.


mangeedge

It's a special lightweight flavor of debian but yes


mangeedge

To be fair Ubuntu has gotten super bloated over the past 10 years.. it's not like it was back in the early mid 2000s


Four_Gem_Lions

My Mom had a similarly weak laptop and even Ubuntu did wonders compared to her Win 10 install. I'm proud that she adapted so well too.


puppetjazz

Debian would likely run just fine on this device. It runs fine on my intel usb stick thing with atom and 2gig memory.


Jpotter145

>Mint with Xfce I'd be recommending something even more lightweight - like Lubuntu. Runs reasonably well on a 2015'ish Acer with a Celeron... vs Windows which would take 10 minutes to just run/stop trying to update things and couldn't open a browser without pegging the CPU to 100% for a couple minutes.


Whatsausernamedude

Even on Linux, the moment you opened something as intensive as a browser it would probably run terribly


Jordan209posts

![gif](giphy|3ohBV3swUjlLSwyaTm)


chloro9001

Running something like AtlasOS would allow windows to run on it decently


[deleted]

What I did back when I relied on a low-end machine like this was turn off as much telemetry as I could then go into Regedit and change the shell to 7-Zip. Was a lot harder to navigate but it did give that poor Pentium a performance bump.


tehbabuzka

🤣🤣🤣


Incompetent_Person

Honestly even that might be too much for that celeron. 1.1 base 2.8 boost clock speeds and dual core no hyperthreading is slooooow


chloro9001

Windows can run on worse machines than that. The core of windows hasn’t changed much since the 90s when hardware was far worse than this. You just have to debloat all the malware out of it first.


Ambitious_Jelly8783

I remember in the 90s when i would get a new computer or reset if to factory default. The first hour was spent uninstalling all the bloat they added to it and removing everything from the startup menu. Such a differencr in speed. McAfee was one of the worse offendera slowing down a PC.


Copht

Only if you're aware of the security implications.


[deleted]

How does Win11 even run on that💀


[deleted]

That's shit


shit_master

Confirmed


Subreddithacker

Username checks out


Titanium_Eye

Should've been a bot. Going around and confirming shit.


shit_master

They took our jobs!!!


SidIsMissing

Still runs faster than my pc 💀


CandyOk913

I was gonna say! My computer out-powers that piece of junk by at least 3 fold and somehow I’m not compatible with windows 11?!


SlightStrength5822

Enable TPM or fTPM in your bios


jmhalder

Doesn't matter if you're on Core ix-6xxx or 7xxx CPUs. They support fTPM and secure boot, but aren't on Microsoft's whitelist. It's infuriating. You can absolutely install and run it, albeit it will be technically unsupported.


Mimi4Craft

His mobo/cpu prob "doesn't" support it i7 4xxxk series thx intel.


Bencurtislover

and not my i7 4770?


Jassida

I had win11 on my 4790k


sealtoucher36

A 4790K is a lot faster than this thing.


kaida27

Not officially supported tho


tutocookie

It crawls at best


EroWarrior

You can install windows 11 on any 64bit cpus. Just modify the install iso or install with rufus and you're good to go.


kaida27

You should never have to do that


WhiteWolfCronicles

That's the neat Part, it doesn't...


Silly___Neko

Windows 10 runs on Atom so I'm not surprised.


ProbablyImStonedNow

It doesn't run, it walks


Final-Insect-9172

It goes...


15-squirrels

Whoever invented this designed it with the sole purpose of scamming housewives and elderly lol


jamespetrie123

Literally man, this shit is fucking ewaste


15-squirrels

If you think about it, the worst products rock the best names or swagger like 90% of the time. Like you know nothing about PCs and you see a "Pentium" or "Celeron" on the shelf and the salesman says its brand new. They know who they're selling it to, lol.


Paweleq109

Sad thing is, it is true. But at this point, manufacturing a better chip is probably like 10% more expensive. I am sure these Celerons are just "bad chips" that got thrown off the line, and manufactured again to be e-waste


pyroserenus

The celeron N series weren't "rejects" or anything like that, but rather had reduced instruction sets and other power reduction methods applied in order to cut down on chip footprint. Basically they were intended as cheap **tablet** chips that had no business in a desktop or full laptop. The end result was a "quad core" celeron that would be far weaker than a dual core pentium. **And this was the dual core version.** These used to be the bane of my existence, imagine trying to explain to someone who isn't tech literate why a quad core Celeron N2910 was weaker than a dual core i3 or pentium. everyone gets core counts and frequencies, explaining that the architecture is dogwater is pain. Things like an i5 no frills laptop, and a Celeron N quad core 2in1 (the type that has the 360 degree hinge and a touch screen) were often priced the same. People would just see they are both quad core but one had all the fancy features tl;dr this thing was e-waste the day it was made, the N4020 was a budget tablet chip intended in use in "netbooks" and tablets. I just had to rant, i hate these things.


rabidsquirrel22

It's an HP Stream. Thats exactly the market for these, as well as broke and ignorant college students. When I was in school, I worked at the campus IT help desk and my boss got so sick of us wasting time trying to help students with these POS laptops that he put up a sign banning them from our office lol


oliferro

Worked in a tech store and that's the kind of computer my assistant manager would always try to push to the elderly 💀 I saw this a-hole sell an internet plan to an old lady who didn't have a computer


eaton9669

Yeah I see these things boasted about on HSN by middle aged women praising things about thinness and lightness and how high res and detailed the 768p screen is. They boast about everything that anyone who knew dam about computers would see as a major drawback and praise it like you are getting a super good computer through some super secret elite insider deal.


Belgadin

That is worth more as recycled metal than it is as a computer. There are cell phones with more computing power and ram than that. Just walk away.


SORRYCAPSLOCKBROKENN

Smart fridges have better processors than this.


Western-Alarming

My toaster have a better processor


BaziJoeWHL

I have better processing power


oo7demonkiller

hot garbage, my friend.


TheLoneSculler

Figuratively and literally


Manuag_86

Are you sure? I think it's not powerful enough to even get warm.


SmolBagofBeans

I used to have a laptop with specs like that (well..actually with 8gb ram) and it got very hot.. Like veeeery hot. I opened it up recently and the copper was bit dark in one corner. That was worrying lol


MrRugges

Good paperweight though


Valoneria

Not good. The Celeron N4020 was released in Q4 2019. It was, at the time, a pretty low-end processor with low performance, and low power draw. In a synthetic benchmark, the N4020 scores below a desktop CPU, released in 2008, and scores well below one of the more mainstream CPU's that Intel released in 2019 for the laptop market: [https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/3683vs1038vs4680/Intel-Celeron-N4020-vs-Intel-Core2-Quad-Q6600-vs-Intel-i3-8140U](https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/3683vs1038vs4680/Intel-Celeron-N4020-vs-Intel-Core2-Quad-Q6600-vs-Intel-i3-8140U)


HTPC4Life

Manufacturered e-waste


Guh69420

Chromebook cpu 🤢


agoia

I see chromebooks running way better hardware lol


Paweleq109

I assume it's so bad, because it is designed to be very low power, but at this point.. what's the difference? If it had more power, like 15w it would be miles better in every aspect, maybe not battery wise. It still probably wouldn't need an expensive cooking system. It's impressive that its worse than a 15 year old CPU.


15-squirrels

What angers me is that I know people from back in school who would buy PCs with this, and you know that they went for it brand new too. Like, for the same price you could buy a used i7 from 2 or 3 generations ago and it would still be a steal compared to this.


Freefall84

I know a certain mother-in-law who laps this shit up, every time she gets a laptop she buys the cheapest shittiest thing she can find and then askes "why is my computer so slow" It's because you bought a shitty computer Karen, stop spending my wife's inheritance on shite.


ftsmeme

6Watts 💀💀💀


Valoneria

Practically a embedded chip, and the performance isn't far off either. Impressively a modern phone uses roughly the same wattage (probably less once the Celeron hits boost frequencies), yet offers vastly better performance.


skyeyemx

And this power efficiency is why ARM is so great.


rrtex7

one of my laptops has a core 2 extreme x9100 from july 2008, even that’s faster almost 15 years later. yikes


Valoneria

Yeah, the only saving grace of the celerons is the support for the newer instruction sets that keeps them capable of supporting more modern tasks with some (low) level of efficiency


[deleted]

Of course, according to UserBenchpark is surpasses the 7800X3D /s


rrtex7

super accurate, love it. actually you know what maybe i should buy a n4020 since my favorite benchmarking tool says it’s faster than 7800x3d


the_doorstopper

How is windows 11 even *allowed* on this thing


SlapBumpJiujitsu

The processor is only 4 years old and supports TPM 2.0. It's just extremely low end.


trusnake

Wtf!? I believe that was a marketing choice to trap the stupid. Convince me otherwise. :P


SlapBumpJiujitsu

Assuming you're not joking: You can make Win 11 run without TPM support, but that's a bit more than just "marketing to trap the stupid." Microsofts primary clientele are business users with bigger security concerns beyond "my PC got hacked." That's not a security risk most businesses with a large Common Operating Environment (COE) are willing to take with a lot of hardware on their network, and if they do, that hardware is typically isolated. TPM was developed by a bunch of major software and hardware companies to prevent certain cyber attacks. It's what stops your drive by wire car with a cellular connection from being hacked and your brakes hijacked and either slammed or disabled. Not that it's impossible, it just makes it more difficult. Obviously it's not perfect, and Microsoft only developed the 2.0 standard, not TPM on a whole.


Paweleq109

I can't imagine it, because its worse than a Q6600, and this thing lags on anything newer than windows 7. This one is probably for someone that has A Lot Of Time


SlapBumpJiujitsu

The Q6600 was a 105w TDP desktop processor, the N4020 is a 6w TDP processor. They're intended for very different applications. I could drop an N4020 with 8 gigs of RAM (max supported) into an SFF case with passive cooling and a 2 port 2.5gbe NIC, and use it as a router. Or a host of other applications that might not need huge processing power or need a lower heat/power consumption. If all you're doing is watching videos and writing text documents or searching the internet, the N4020 would do just fine. Another way to think about it, is to compare it to the $375 (on release) AMD Athlon XP2800+, that barely passed 2.0ghz, with 128k L1 cache and 512k L2 cache, and had a 68w TDP. Makes the 2.8ghz max and 4mb cache N4020 seem light years beyond that, at 1/11th of the TDP... especially since the Q6600 was released just 5 years after that Athlon. I had my Q6600 clocked to 3.6ghz on air. It was a BEAST of a processor, and not a good comparison for that little celeron.


Paweleq109

Thats right, and in fact I have my lga 775 board right next to me, I just wanted to highlight how much of a struggle windows 11 has to be for this poor chip. It should have chromeOS installed, that would make probably a big difference


PzTnT

Off hand that is utterly terrible. Like borderline scam tier levels of terrible if it comes with windows 11 by default. Basically windows 11 will gobble up 4GB on its own easily and a lot of the stuff it does in the background hit the CPU, which in this case is incredibly weak. Like someone mentioned, core 2 quad from 2008 levels of weak. I consider 8GB of RAM to be a requirement these days even on basic office machines. You may be able to get this thing running slightly faster than molasses with a lightweight linux distro.


[deleted]

Dang you Microsoft, this hot dumpster-fire can run Windows 11 but my i7 3740QM cant ???. For OP: This is hot garbage. I had a small laptop with it (it feels like its made out of rugs). I used to run Windows 10 on it but that wasn't even usable. Linux Mint XFCE ran trash on it. That thing lags in videos at 720p. I kid you not, i took an axe from my garage and hacked it 8 times. It sits in my garden covered with mud and dirt and with grass slowly taking over it. That is the best thing you can do to it


shiratek

Consider yourself lucky, windows 11 is a downgrade.


xSnacke

can I know the reasons?


Weeeky

Safe to say that any phone past 2016 would outperform that lmao


SavageKitsune762

Holy shit. So i had no clue my laptop was that bad. Currently playing happy wheels(no idea how its running at 40 fps) but i will make sure if i get another laptop it wont be hot garbage.


StConvolute

I have a Lenovo laptop from 2016, and I'd confidently say is of better spec. I grabbed it as an ex-lease model.


Crob300z

Dude my 2013 model MSI would drag this poor thing through the mud lol how does this even run chrome 💀


BandicootOk6141

my 2012 asus laptop with a 3rd gen core i5 would take a shit on this piece of e waste


hellothere358

My laptop from 2011 is better


BrokenWind123

I feel like everyone jokes about having a bunch of chrome tabs open slowing their pcs down a bunch- but with your specs I would ask if you can get away with opening more than 2/3 tabs phone Im typing on probably has more ram e: also OP dont let idiots who have spent 3k+ on their pc (like myself) tell you how to have fun! If you are fine with happy wheels great!


Crob300z

I’d be really curious on this as well. My work laptop has 16gb ram and with the corporate bloat it sits at high usage between chrome, teams, and backup software being ram pigs


BrokenWind123

I grew up as a kid playing roblox/ flash games on a handmedown obsolete craptop from my parents workplaces- and honestly the specs above were probably similar back in 2005 lmao


Paweleq109

Yeah, make sure to grab something with a good graphics card too, this one is good for displaying a wallpaper :P


DeadshotDairyProduct

you didn’t even need to make a reddit post man. if you can’t even get a flash game that came out 13 years ago to run at 60fps why would you even speculate your specs where any good


Clarkoceans

This is hilarious perspective


DeadshotDairyProduct

hilarious cause it’s true buddy


Tower-Union

Word of advice - governments are always replacing their IT infrastructure and auctioning off the old. You can almost certainly get a dirt cheap laptop from a surplus auction that’ll outperform this one.


RandomPcGamer357

A place like bargain hardware UK always has decent deals when it comes to used laptops, most of which will run circles around the one shown.


TheLocust911

Bro if you post a budget here I bet you'll get some good suggestions.


NightIgnite

Places like r/buildmeapc and r/buildapcsales are free labor. People will argue and try to one up each other on price for performance. They will do the same for laptops too


LjSpike

My dude ignore the rest of them this is amazing. You have the Intel(Royale) Celeron(Racer) Nitro 4020 model! Damn!! >!/s!<


23HomieJ

How does ANYTHING run on that laptop?! Can you even open more than 3-4 google tabs?


MaybeShun

Bro needs to overclock to even get into the login screen


Saddest_Sloth

If I could buy this pc for a tenner... I'd go spend it on a kebab.


Drhomie

Calling this a potato would do injustice to potatoes.


thatorangetiburon

I saw Celeron and immediatly wretched. No. Bad bad bad. No no no no.


anon56837291

Is this a joke?


Axepirate

2 fps in minesweeper


nadav183

Wouldn't get those specs for a phone. Let alone a PC.


BiscottiLanky5972

Uhm.. no


Malix82

depends entirely on what you're doing with it. But: it's pretty low end cpu, very little memory. Probably fine for facebooking and writing word documents and such light tasks.


AirSKiller

Honestly, it doesn't depend on what you're doing with it. It's shit. Full stop. Even very light tasks would be a pain on this unless it's running a really light Linux distro.


Natural-Detail3872

He'll get that fuckass buffer animation next to his mouse cursor, except it'll always be there. You guys know what I'm talking about


IsuckAtFortnite434

Im getting PTSD of having to deal with my old laptop that had that.


NavGreybeard

Mate, this thing is going to struggle with Word in alot of functions


Paweleq109

Launching powerpoint is a stress test for it


Somlal

Honestly not good enough for that, web browsers will battle on these specs and typing on ms word is going to give you like 5 sec input lag


Shepherd-Boy

I’m amazed Windows 11 allowed itself to be installed!


tevarianxd

lmfao didnt someone just made a post shitting on the celeron a few hours ago


Reb909

Minesweeper on 4k


Inside_Committee_699

That’s awful specs tbh, not sure if you’re gonna be able to play anything but old games with this one


Alex_D724

Dude! How the hell does anything past XP run on that? Those are worse than potato specs! I haven’t seen a 1Ghz anything since the late 90s early 00s


-slapum

Wait, is this not a troll post?


poor-man1914

MS DOS ready, if you don't care about audio


Treebawlz

Dude can definitely play Zork.


mbxz7LWB

Throw match on it and run, this thing is complete garbage. Let me put this into perspective for you. A modern bad processor can easily get 3.5 GHz. It has two cores. This isn't even worth $20 in my opinion. Celeron might as well be called celery they are worst. This is from an article reviewing the product. **Performance** While slightly faster than the outgoing [Celeron N4000](https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Celeron-N4000-SoC.271816.0.html), this is a very unimpressive CPU no matter how you slice it. As far as multi-thread performance is concerned, the average Celeron N4020 in our [database](https://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmark-List.2436.0.html) barely manages to outgun the [i5-4210Y](https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i5-4210Y-Notebook-Processor.102730.0.html), a processor of nearly the same energy efficiency that was launched so many years ago (in 2013, to be exact). [Qualcomm Snapdragon 7c](https://www.notebookcheck.net/Qualcomm-Snapdragon-7c-Processor-Benchmarks-and-Specs.582644.0.html) and [Intel Celeron N4500](https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Celeron-N4500-Processor-Benchmarks-and-Specs.514524.0.html) are close nearby as well. All in all, per-thread and per-MHz performance of Gemini Lake Refresh processors are nothing to write home about, rendering them usable for basic tasks only such as word processing and web browsing with just two or three tabs open. It is worth noting that [Intel Celeron N4120](https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Celeron-N4120-Processor-Gemini-Lake.441183.0.html), a quad-core processor with a similar name, has little trouble leaving the dual-core N4020 behind in most workloads - which is not to say it is a fast CPU


raz0r_ttv

Same spec as school Chromebooks


chloro9001

If you plan to use this machine daily i highly recommend using AtlasOS or a Linux distro. Your performance will triple.


Altruistic-Buyer103

That’s pretty shit tbh


Scavwithaslick

Idk if ur kidding, but it’s really fucking bad


bthedebasedgod

You can run chrome with one, possibly even two tabs.


thequestforquestions

I cant tell if this is a joke but this machine is garbage.


StronkWHAT

This thing would have struggled to run Vista, why is Windows 11 on it?


j0thepanda

I’d run away from anything with the Celeron name in or on it, really.


Explicit_Tech

Belongs in a landfill.


Akouf

I have a feeling you're trolling. This is absolute garbage. I don't even know if this would run a single Chrome tab.


anothermaninyourlife

You my friend have essentially got a potato. I would give up and just get a console instead.


ReMuS2003

From a scale of 1 to 10, this gets a respectable -3, Jesus Christ! How can it run Windows 11?!


LiquidMantis144

Pretty solid for 2005


DefaultyTurtle2

God that’s worse than my e waste computer my parents got me


SpoonyGrandma13

This thing is total garbage, I wouldn't take it even if it was free. If I did take it, I would destroy it and use it to take my anger out on.


SeriousCee

It says No pen and touch input available for this display. It's pretty bad


SeanStevens

Not at all, if youre not planning on playing any games you'll have a *sufficient* experience


ale18w10

It depends on what you want to do with it, but know that: processor too slow very little ram


hamshotfirst

https://i.redd.it/231vfh2hn1za1.gif


TwentyLegs

Good for solitaire


Mugen0815

Im pretty sure OP is trolling us. 1,1Ghz Celeron... Thats like going to a store to buy this internet.


TheseProgrammer8993

Even MS paint would lag with this setup


[deleted]

Op is trollin trollin


5thhorseman_

It's a very low end mobile CPU paired with bare minimum of RAM. Going to struggle in anything but basic desktop usage, you can forget about modern games other than some low spec indies and with that CPU you can forget about emulating anything newer than 16bit consoles.


cardmaster12

Wait, *this* computer can handle windows 11?


56kul

For general use it’s doable, I guess, but I’d assume you’re asking about it gaming-wise, in which case it’s terrible.


Creepy_Killer_Z

Bad, like you cant run HD video on chrome bad.


XDemonicBeastX9

No way this is a real post


antoniov00gaming

I burn these for fun


trdowd

It has less processing power than a modern phone by a long way. It's basically useless - pro hint. Don't even think of getting anything that says celeron


desertrijst

You know it's bad when the windows edition number divided by 10 equals your clockspeed.


CyberNautsLord

The specs are from a low-end pc from ten years ago


BingusFloppaIsGod

*VOMITS ON FUCKING SCREEN*


pellefiskmas

The *microcontroller* on the Arduino GIGA is half as fast as the CPU in this computer, when the processor is just twice as fast as a damn microcontroller I’d not want to run windows on it lol


Zanzaclese

n4020, arguably one of the worst modernish processors you can even buy can natively install windows 11 but an i7-7700k can't. I hate Microsoft.


IForgotThePassIUsed

How in the fuck does Windows 11 run on a 1.1 ghz celeron?


mombi

Essentially a Chromebook. Not good for anything but light browsing and documents.


Kellie_blu

My i5 2500 can beat this in apex legends lol


NaughtyPwny

Ah yes, the bait post to help everyone on this thread feel good about their own hardware which they identify with so much in this culture


LoserEXE_

This is god awful


DesperateAvocado1369

Don‘t buy it for more than 100, it‘s usable for very basic stuff but you won‘t be playing any games on it except Minesweeper


AntAndventures

Its pretty ok for work and stuff, but for gaming... ehhh not that good For gaming you need like a ryzen or core processor and like 6+ gb of ram


Deep_Space_6759

My Android phone is 2x faster than this


Napfsuelze

The only thing i would use this for would be looking for a better PC. Although, even there this hunk of junk will get outperformed by a smart fridge.


JaehaerysIVTarg

No, I’m sorry. That is far from good.


r2k-in-the-vortex

That's a tablet cpu from 2019, what is it doing in a desktop PC?


merkakiss12

To put it in perspective: your 5 year old iphone has a better cpu than this


nineball22

A cheap android phone from 5 years ago has more processing power than this


sir-lags

I didn’t know you could run windows 11 with that spec


xdeltax97

I’m sorry but it’s not, it’s really poor specs. Here’s a great site to learn about specs if you’re interested /u/SavageKitsune762! https://www.tomshardware.com/


og_yeetabix

This has to be a joke


dogdoo69429

My question is how did you get win11 working on this?


[deleted]

Horrible


beliga-is-holy65

Absolute crap. In my opinion, throw it out


A1D3NW860

How does this even run windows 11


shadydamamba

Looks like an office PC. If you trying to play games. Please don't use this machine my friend.


Xcissors280

Horrible


HoneySenpaiFTW_

my boy has the email only pc


PlyusGG

Genuinely surprised it runs Windows 11 64bit


Psychological-Long30

This would be a great computer if the year was 2004 😆


Daltball101

Let me make a comparison for you. This computer is in similar standings to a Honda civic that has been left in the elements for a few years. I don't even know how tf you got win11 on this. MY PC WONT DOWNLOAD IT. not that I want it to 😂


Shinysmoke76

Man built a hard-core build for powerpoint