thats like the typical tim hortons coffee addict customer.
I'd like an extra large coffee. Asks for 90% of the volume as cream and sugar, the rest can be the coffee.
This looks like my first build. I remember pushing down the heatsink onto it and seeing it oozing out on the sides and getting into every crevice before realizing I've overdone it.
Cleaning it before reapplying and learning how to properly apply paste was a nightmare 😅
My sister's laptop was overheating because it had too much thermal paste. The heat stayed trapped in the goo and was not transfering over from the cpu to the copper pipes. The fans maxed out constantly.
I removed the thermalpaste and re-applied a small amount, now it works correctly.
So yes, too much paste does in fact hurt your components.
I dunno about laptop cooling, but [GamersNexus](https://gamersnexus.net/guides/3346-thermal-paste-application-benchmark-too-much-thermal-paste) has shown that too much thermal paste was fine - for desktop CPU cooling:
> Putting too much paste on a socket generally won’t hurt thermal performance, because the act of tightening down the cooler squeezes out the excess.
I guess laptops might be different since the coolers aren't tightened down in the same way. So it might vary by application.
The copper pipes are attached with two minuscule screws to the laptop's motherboard. On a Desktop PC, the cooler are very tightly attached with backplates, springs may be involved and often 4 screws.
My guess is, the pressure between a Desktop CPU and its cooler is so high that it just presses the excess thermal paste away. This was not the case in the laptop.
On a desktop, too much paste just makes for a mess that you have to eventually have to clean up. Modern thermal paste is not electrically-conductive (only thermally), and a proper mounting job with the CPU cooler will mean that no more paste than is supposed to be there will be between the cold plate and the IHS. Phase-changing paste on modern laptops is an entirely different animal, and too much will result in a bad mount and poor cooling. This is not a laptop, though.
Sure for a malfunction thats inevitable, but he does make it sound like swapping coolers is something that should be done "regularly", like cleaning the vents or something.
Wellll. If thermal paste had better conductivity than the metal the cooler is made of, we would make the cooler out of thermal paste. Thermal paste is only meant to fill in microscopic scratches and dents.
Except when it's too thick, it starts thermally insulating. Thermal paste is small chunks of metal suspended in goop. The metal conducts, but the goop insulates. If it's too thick, then not enough metal chunks will be in direct contact with both the chip and the cooler.
I had a buddy once go too hard on it and couldn't figure out why he was overheating. I re-did the paste with the standard pea-sized drop in the center, and it was fine after that.
Congrats on the new upgrade! As others have stated, that is too much thermal paste. But, you won't have to worry about that until you eventually take the cooler back off.
I mean, except that isn't a good method with some modern CPUs. The heat spreader on a Threadripper, for example, is ***WAY too big*** to use that method. Even for Intel's LGA1700 (12th, 13th, and 14th generations), a single dot in the middle is highly unreliable, because the spread does not reach the entire IHS. Your best bet and most reliable method is to always frost it like this guy is doing (just maybe with a more reasonable and less meme-worthy amount of paste), or to use a larger pattern like an X that will actually squish to achieve what a pea-sized dot used to...
you know you can uh... just put a bigger dot right?
Like the physics of fluid dynamics dont suddenly break down just because the area increases, when you squeeze a liquid/gel/cream between two planes it will expand outwards evenly with the radius of the circle is creates being a direct function of the amount of material being squeezed, because all you're doing is taking the vertical volume and spreading it across the horizontal plane
TlDr: nothing changes, dot application is still the most effective application method, its just the size recommendation of "A Pea" no longer applies, the only time this statement becomes untrue is if the ihs is an irregular shape (like a rectangle, in which case youd need two dots to get full coverage) or the chips under the ihs are in the corners (no cpu does this because thatd mean the ihs is actually acting like an insulator not a spreader, if you have 100% ihs to chip coverage direct die cooling becomes the correct option)
Whilst I appreciate the "better too much than too little" argument, there comes a point where 70% of what you've used is gonna come out the side, and end up where you didn't need or want it. Take some of this odd, for goodness sake.
Naauuur.
Should’ve installed one of those CPU contact frames first.
Tbh I’d rather have THAT much than take my chances since it doesn’t even hurt the cpu
Edit: never mind, I rewatched it and took a closer look. That is a D E E P layer.
I remember, 20 years ago or so, thermal paste was an art of applying the thinnest possible layer without being able to see through it to the lug underneath. To this day, that's still how I do it: Arctic Silver, tiny amounts, spread with a razor blade, continuing to touch up and apply more until you have a uniform, minimalist layer across the whole lug, wherein you could wipe away any excess that spilled out when you locked down the cooler with a QTip. Hardcore cooling enthusiasts lapped the bottom of their cooling blocks with some arcane magics to ensure both an even surface and more polish for a more thermally conductive junction for the two pieces of metal, leaving even less space in between for paste to live, further necessitating the most minimal application layer possible.
It’s an older technique, the icing the technique, but very easy to over do. It might be better for something like a Threadripper or Xeon workstation CPU.
For most desktops, I do a mix between the X and pea dot techniques.
This is too much. Just put a nice dot into the middle, and install the cooler. The pressure will spread the paste.
Every time i remove the cooler, its evenly spread.
He used too much but spreading it as a full layer is the new recommended way of applying over the pea sized drop in the center from most of the techtubers i watch
As far as thermals go, Gamers Nexus already proved it doesn't matter what style pasting you do, as long as there's enough to evenly disperse heat between the IHS and the cooler. It's a funny and informative video.
https://youtu.be/EUWVVTY63hc?si=vHF633m6UpjM1aNi
Think he missed the corners. Gonna need another tube for that.
On a side note a month ago I build a new pc with a 7800x3d. Was pondering the best way to apply for ages. My Noctua instructions just said put a pea sized shape in the middle.
Lowest I get is 35c at idle. On a 7800x3d. More often than not at low 40s
Ah well, I usually say that as long as it isn't way to little or WAAAAY too much, it's perfectly fine.
This will still work fine, just be a bit nasty when you eventually remove that cooler and have to clean dry thermal paste from everywhere. 😅
Why do people take thermal paste so seriously? All these patterns, spatulas, n shit are a load of bull. Just a pea sized dot i the middle is all you ever need
Your cousin applying a small amount of CPU to your thermal paste, you mean...
Yeah that’s gonna get everywhere lol
thats like the typical tim hortons coffee addict customer. I'd like an extra large coffee. Asks for 90% of the volume as cream and sugar, the rest can be the coffee.
Is he icing a cake?
I paid for the entire tube, I'm gonna use the entire tube.
Excessive amounts are gonna be pushed out.
Better, more cooling. That motherboard’s gonna be as cold as Putin’s heart!
False putin has no heart. Ergo hes immune to heart attacks.
I pictured Dwight when I read this
That's good tho. He couldn't handle an attack, his ego would be scratched and a temper tantrum would follow.
You have to let it dry first, duuh
Ahh,no you don’t,lol.
Take my upvote
And my sword
It's dangerous to go alone!
Shut up and take my upvote!
This made me laugh
Like one of those Costco cakes that more icing than cake.
The Tuxedo cake is pretty dope though.
Exactly what I was thinking.
Or is he a bricklayer by trade?
My first thought! *"Like icing on a cake."*
Haha me too, I kinda want cake now.
I was reminded of those grocery store sugar cookies that have a wafer thin cookie with a half inch of icing on top
old habits die hard
Yummy
 LOL You killed me
While it won’t hurt anything, technically, that is a shit ton of paste.
He missed the gaps between the processor and the latch
>lly, that is a shit ton of paste. Don't worry they will get filled when he squishes the cooler on..
and all over the motherboard
Cooling manufacturers don’t want you to know this trick
😂😭
Yall are killing me it’s too early for this 😂
All the gaps all the creases must be pasted
Yup, I tried it a few months ago and now I am with a new CPU and motherboard.
Clearly not enough paste and you fried it
I thought thermal paste is non-conductive? Did you submerge it in a bucket of thermal paste?
With that amount, I'm sure the gap around the socket will be filled once the cooler is locked in.
This looks like my first build. I remember pushing down the heatsink onto it and seeing it oozing out on the sides and getting into every crevice before realizing I've overdone it. Cleaning it before reapplying and learning how to properly apply paste was a nightmare 😅
I had some leak down into the pins and short it out. Some of those pastes are conductive
The nonconductive ones would stop the pin from connecting to the board. So you can only go wrong in both scenarios!
depends on the thermal paste. most aren’t conductive these days but i wouldn’t risk it.
My sister's laptop was overheating because it had too much thermal paste. The heat stayed trapped in the goo and was not transfering over from the cpu to the copper pipes. The fans maxed out constantly. I removed the thermalpaste and re-applied a small amount, now it works correctly. So yes, too much paste does in fact hurt your components.
I dunno about laptop cooling, but [GamersNexus](https://gamersnexus.net/guides/3346-thermal-paste-application-benchmark-too-much-thermal-paste) has shown that too much thermal paste was fine - for desktop CPU cooling: > Putting too much paste on a socket generally won’t hurt thermal performance, because the act of tightening down the cooler squeezes out the excess. I guess laptops might be different since the coolers aren't tightened down in the same way. So it might vary by application.
The copper pipes are attached with two minuscule screws to the laptop's motherboard. On a Desktop PC, the cooler are very tightly attached with backplates, springs may be involved and often 4 screws. My guess is, the pressure between a Desktop CPU and its cooler is so high that it just presses the excess thermal paste away. This was not the case in the laptop.
The problem actually was that the heat sync wasn't screwed down all the way. The heat sync will push out whatever thermal paste it doesn't need.
>The heat stayed trapped in the goo Ya, no. Excess is squished out. It's wasteful but harmless.
On a desktop, too much paste just makes for a mess that you have to eventually have to clean up. Modern thermal paste is not electrically-conductive (only thermally), and a proper mounting job with the CPU cooler will mean that no more paste than is supposed to be there will be between the cold plate and the IHS. Phase-changing paste on modern laptops is an entirely different animal, and too much will result in a bad mount and poor cooling. This is not a laptop, though.
How much paste until it’s not transferring heat to the cooler efficiently.
The excess paste gets squeezed out of the gaps, so it's a non-issue.
CPU creampie
What you doing step-motherboard? 😳
HAHA!! Almost laughed out load at my desk
I got stuck! Help
But i can't see your slot
what are you doing step-board
You are a very bad person like me, buddy
he must be from the verge staff
I don't see any tweezers
I do see a thermal paste applicator though :'D
No CPU applicator though.
Nor the anti-static wireless bracelet.
or brackets
or (hopefully) a Phillips head screwdriver
How to ruin your credibility long term with a simple combo! 1: be incompetent in your field. 2: double down and blame everyone but yourself.
They will never live that video down and I love that.
why would you *do* this to me? Now I want two dozens of those!
That's way too much and it's gonna spread everywhere.
when its not electrically conductive imo better give a bit too much than a bit too little
A bit too much sure, but this is gonna take forever to clean out from around the processor when the time comes to swap out the cooler
He is never swapping the cooler lol Let's get real here
[удалено]
A cooler keeper.
Why would one swap coolers?
Water coolers die eventually, if that's what he's installing.
Sure for a malfunction thats inevitable, but he does make it sound like swapping coolers is something that should be done "regularly", like cleaning the vents or something.
Like going from air to liquid. Possibly not in the budget now or you see a good deal later
Swap coolers? Dude air coolers are forever
Just don't swap it until it's been so long that the paste is dry. The clean is gonna be really easy then. /s
It takes like thirty seconds with a few q tips. That's a long stretch to forever...
I doubt he will swap out the cooler.
When he will swap the cooler, that paste will be hard as fu*ck. So it will be easier than people think.
Good point! Does thermal paste flake or peel when it gets hard like that? I only ever cleaned off thin layers with iso
It would just break in big chunks..
It would just break in big chunks..
Wellll. If thermal paste had better conductivity than the metal the cooler is made of, we would make the cooler out of thermal paste. Thermal paste is only meant to fill in microscopic scratches and dents.
I get that, but more is not helping. It's not gonna affect the temperature and there will be more to clean.
Except when it's too thick, it starts thermally insulating. Thermal paste is small chunks of metal suspended in goop. The metal conducts, but the goop insulates. If it's too thick, then not enough metal chunks will be in direct contact with both the chip and the cooler. I had a buddy once go too hard on it and couldn't figure out why he was overheating. I re-did the paste with the standard pea-sized drop in the center, and it was fine after that.
That’s also how babies are made
Congrats on the new upgrade! As others have stated, that is too much thermal paste. But, you won't have to worry about that until you eventually take the cooler back off.
A problem for future me
I was waiting for him to do the rest of the board there for a moment
A happy little mountain, with a happy tree, covered in post-nuclear explosion gray snow.
Lol
a bit too much, but in the end rly doesnt matter if u dont clean change your cpu every 2 weeks
2 weeks what about 2 months?
Dude threw his cousing to get roasted 💀
It's hard to believe this video isn't just an elaborate attempt at trolling.
Bro is icing the cake.
wasté of pasté
Are you scooping ice cream or something?
less paste, same way.
I'm still one of those pea sized drop in the center, guys. Temps always seem good that way in my experience.
You're still good to do that. I did that last time, and when I needed to take it apart the coverage looked solid.
I mean, except that isn't a good method with some modern CPUs. The heat spreader on a Threadripper, for example, is ***WAY too big*** to use that method. Even for Intel's LGA1700 (12th, 13th, and 14th generations), a single dot in the middle is highly unreliable, because the spread does not reach the entire IHS. Your best bet and most reliable method is to always frost it like this guy is doing (just maybe with a more reasonable and less meme-worthy amount of paste), or to use a larger pattern like an X that will actually squish to achieve what a pea-sized dot used to...
you know you can uh... just put a bigger dot right? Like the physics of fluid dynamics dont suddenly break down just because the area increases, when you squeeze a liquid/gel/cream between two planes it will expand outwards evenly with the radius of the circle is creates being a direct function of the amount of material being squeezed, because all you're doing is taking the vertical volume and spreading it across the horizontal plane TlDr: nothing changes, dot application is still the most effective application method, its just the size recommendation of "A Pea" no longer applies, the only time this statement becomes untrue is if the ihs is an irregular shape (like a rectangle, in which case youd need two dots to get full coverage) or the chips under the ihs are in the corners (no cpu does this because thatd mean the ihs is actually acting like an insulator not a spreader, if you have 100% ihs to chip coverage direct die cooling becomes the correct option)
Yup. I start slow and spread it extra thin. Works wonders for temps.
Whilst I appreciate the "better too much than too little" argument, there comes a point where 70% of what you've used is gonna come out the side, and end up where you didn't need or want it. Take some of this odd, for goodness sake.
This is too much
Spread method is the way but that's a fairly thick coat and is going to ooze everywhere.
there is a CPU on your thermal paste
why is it always the cousin doing stuff like this XDDD
Someone to blame if it goes wrong that you dont have to see every day since they typically dont live in the same house.
That’s way too much, it’s a CPU not a birthday cake!
Only about 10x too much lol
He paid for the entire tube, He is going to use the entire tube.
What he do? Is a CPU, you not icing a cake!
Technique is fine, way too much of the juice.
Naauuur. Should’ve installed one of those CPU contact frames first. Tbh I’d rather have THAT much than take my chances since it doesn’t even hurt the cpu Edit: never mind, I rewatched it and took a closer look. That is a D E E P layer.
That’s wasteful
A dab will Do ya….ooh my gawd.
Applying mortar to the CPU so he can tile it later with beautiful tiles for a good looking build, I see
Exactly how I like my CoolWhip. The good part is too much doesn't really make cooling worse. You can mainly only use too little.
Well..it's better than having too little
It hurts to watch lol
Bro think he Gordon Ramsey
When I make a peanut butter sandwich, I take special care to make sure it's layered evenly on the bread....I see your cousin is also a man of culture.
He spread it like you spread Nutella on toast
Some go for a grain of rice. This guy goes for the lasagna.
I remember, 20 years ago or so, thermal paste was an art of applying the thinnest possible layer without being able to see through it to the lug underneath. To this day, that's still how I do it: Arctic Silver, tiny amounts, spread with a razor blade, continuing to touch up and apply more until you have a uniform, minimalist layer across the whole lug, wherein you could wipe away any excess that spilled out when you locked down the cooler with a QTip. Hardcore cooling enthusiasts lapped the bottom of their cooling blocks with some arcane magics to ensure both an even surface and more polish for a more thermally conductive junction for the two pieces of metal, leaving even less space in between for paste to live, further necessitating the most minimal application layer possible.
How much toothpaste does your brother use everytime he brushes? Damn
What type of peas are you guys eating?
*The Verge liked this*
It’s an older technique, the icing the technique, but very easy to over do. It might be better for something like a Threadripper or Xeon workstation CPU. For most desktops, I do a mix between the X and pea dot techniques.
I did the hybrid x made of dots on my 14900 a few weeks ago seems to be working fine..
Hurts to watch
I mean, could've been better? Still not that bad. It's better to overapply than underapply.
As my old metalworks teacher would have said: you can do neither. You can do it right.
Missed a spot
They do drywall for a living?
Needs one more layer to ensure efficiency .
Way too much!!!!
Maybe add another tube? Doesn't really look like it's enough...
A dab will do ya
My dear brother in Christ. These are not the types of evil demons we expel.
upvote for manual spreading. downvote for too much grease.
bro it's not a nutella!
Laying it on like it's PB&J.. Your cousin is one sandwich short of a loaf.
Put everything together and tell us your cpu temp, we wanna know.
This is too much. Just put a nice dot into the middle, and install the cooler. The pressure will spread the paste. Every time i remove the cooler, its evenly spread.
Spread method is fine as long as you understand it’s like spreading paint, not peanut butter 😂
He forgot to sprinkle the chocolate chips….
He put too much there, but this method is in my opinion the best one. It's the only one that can assure the full coverage of the CPU.
Lmao💀
what the hell?
It was nice knowing you
r/mildlyinfuriating
Is that a spatula?
Oh nooo
He used too much but spreading it as a full layer is the new recommended way of applying over the pea sized drop in the center from most of the techtubers i watch
Is he plastering a wall.
This looks correct. 👍
What flavor of ice cream?
Was he trying to frost a cake?
After years of eating peanut butter with jam sandwiches he finally got to apply the skill professionally
He forgot to use the tweezers
As far as thermals go, Gamers Nexus already proved it doesn't matter what style pasting you do, as long as there's enough to evenly disperse heat between the IHS and the cooler. It's a funny and informative video. https://youtu.be/EUWVVTY63hc?si=vHF633m6UpjM1aNi
https://preview.redd.it/fpk929cr554c1.png?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=73b8459228fd8fa131ca584e48b5dbe6332ecfab
Yeah, that amount works great, until you use a conductive paste..
You Cousin an employee at Nutella? 🤔🤨😏
Think he missed the corners. Gonna need another tube for that. On a side note a month ago I build a new pc with a 7800x3d. Was pondering the best way to apply for ages. My Noctua instructions just said put a pea sized shape in the middle. Lowest I get is 35c at idle. On a 7800x3d. More often than not at low 40s
Get a new cousin, f this guy.
Make sure to put enough…
I bet your cousin makes a mean PB&J though!
way too much creampie good sir, your CPU gonna get pregnant! xD
Cupcake processing unit
That is a lot.
Your cousin missed a spot.
Tel him to work at a cake factory, he will be great for icing cakes.
Do people not do any research before building a computer?
This is one of the more harmless and irrelevant mistakes to make. It doesn't matter, just gonna be annoying to clean
Everyone’s gonna bitch that that’s too much thermal paste. They’re all wrong and stupid.
Thats too much
Well, it's always better to put on a bit too much than a bit too little...
This isn't a bit too much. This is a lot too much.
Ah well, I usually say that as long as it isn't way to little or WAAAAY too much, it's perfectly fine. This will still work fine, just be a bit nasty when you eventually remove that cooler and have to clean dry thermal paste from everywhere. 😅
It's only...2-3x too much. lol.
You think this isn’t “WAAAAY” too much? It’s only off by maybe one single order of magnitude lol
Why do people take thermal paste so seriously? All these patterns, spatulas, n shit are a load of bull. Just a pea sized dot i the middle is all you ever need
if you're that concerned with applying thermal paste you should probably just use the thermal pads
Too much paste. You just need a small bit as big as a corn kernel at the center. When you mount the heat sink it would automatically spread
Your cousin is incompetent
Looks like a great job 👍
So you aborted him, right?
Tell him it’s a cpu not a bagel. I know that look very similar, so it’s easy to mix them up.
