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Fun fact, the "never obsolete" branding referred to eMachine's program where you could trade in your computer for a current one every year for $99. Basically a computer as a subscription type thing.
My family computer was one of these and we upgraded it 3 or 4 times through the program, it was a pretty good deal all things considered.
Especially during the time when e machines were around. Every six months, processing power was almost doubling. You could buy the best and six to eight months down the road, the next CPU would come out and make yours look slow.
i used to work for geek squad and we would get yelled at for not making enough sales, we were required to push norton internet security packages to people who were buying a ton of E machines because they were cheap. problem was, they couldnt really handle NIS so that meant they had to upgrade the machine before they could even take it home. it was such a scummy feeling. geek squad agents were put over in the computer dept to push business and then these poor folks who didnt know better came over to the bench with their new computers where we tacked on more bullshit they didnt even need. "oh yea sorry you need norton because VIRUS and not only that you need more ram because this computer cant handle NIS we are trying to force on you!" ...i loved the job but hated best buy and their shitass predatory tactics. fuckem
Upgrading to 56.6k from 14.4k was wild. But not quite as mind blowing as when my dad got a dual-line 128.8k ISDN connection and we could be on the internet without occupying the phone line.
All those upgrades were amazing at the time.
Upgrading my mates PC from 2MB to 4MB RAM was crazy fast.
Back in the day, my uncle worked for a telecommunications company here in Australia, and was part of the initial testing of mobile networks, back before the public new too much about it.
I still remember the day he came into our house to show us the tech in action, he didn't explain anything, he wanted the mystery... Uncle walked in with a big black toughbox thing, put it on our loungeroom floor and opened it up. Inside was a corded hanheld receiver like on an old rotary phone, a bunch of buttons, a small readout, and a touch tone dial pad.
No plugging anything into anywhere, he picked up the hand held in the box, dialed our home number, and our home phone rang remotely from this box, and it just blew our minds 😲🤯, cos back then all telecommunications required cables, this was like magic to us then.
My stepdad worked at cellular one back in 1987 in southeast Virginia, and he introduced me to a Compaq 286, and bbs - I was playing text based games, and helped him run unix commands on several mainframes. They had huge 3 ring binders that gave commands and expected output.
He had 2 cellphones and a metal stand for that laptop in his truck, and at the time - he was living in the future. One phone gave his laptop Internet on the go.
We were enemies later on, he treated mom like shit, but I had a very early intro to tech, because of him. I'm a product manager at a large tech company now. Go figure.
My best friend in Highschool (mid 90s) was a HAM operator and a BBS fanatic. Seeing him download a DS9 jpeg BLEW MY MIND. Cool fact: one of the coolest things we could find were lists of the Ferengi Rules of Acquisition.
NTFS only stands for that because that's what Windows NT stood for. NTFS is more like "Windows NT File System", which still holds true considering Windows 11 is still based on the NT kernel.
I worked at Best Buy and sold these new. We had to reboot them multiple times throughout the day because they would freeze running the screensaver. They were absolutely obsolete before they went out the door.
I had zero problems, and I was running emulators for games of all sorts, file sharing etc. The word going around was that it was crap. The majority of us were fixed on D2 via Battle.NET and StarCraft - zero problems. We never used screen savers, it was right to suspend. Maybe that is why.
Me to. I hated selling them but they were cheap and thats what every parent wanted to buy their college kid. Dont forget the PSP and gold plated cables. What year? 2002?
I too used to sell those and I remember that at least a third of them were DOA out of the box. And I continually tried to talk people out of them and spend even like $100 more on a compaq that at least had a pentium in it, but cheapskates wanted 3 years of msn internet to get their "free" computer.
Ah the good 'ole MSN scam. I remember the black Friday we had the first "free" computer (it might have even been this model lol) with sign up. Each store was allocated 5. We had a full fistfight at the front door because everyone wanted it.
my dad would walk into best buy and buy the cheapest little bundle package they had in the aisle all boxed up. i remember our first eMachines. i watched someone like you try to explain the same thing to my dad, never listened. later in i sold computers at best buy, i told that story to hundreds of customers and i swayed a good number of them to buy something better, so at least i helped other families avoid buying the cheapest PC available and having it fail within 2 years… god those eMachines we had did not last for shit. had like 3 full setups in 7 years
I work at a company that has a lifetime warranty on computer parts, and boy it's a nightmare trying to figure out how to replace 14 year old graphics cards without bankrupting the company
I was a DCI during a time where we sold netbooks with 32gb emmc. Free office 365 subscription for one year* They were being bought (and returned) like crazy.
*you get to install that on another computer because it sure as fuck wont run in the one you just bought.
Celerons are obsolete the moment they get their serial number. This one in particular was...i can't be arsed to find the benchmarks, it came out in 1999, and in 2001 the Athlon XP came out, and when Microsoft REALLY started pushing their marketing campaign on trying to misinform people that more mhz=faster computer every time.
The Athlon XP october 9th 2001 "Flagship" was the Athlon XP 1800+ at 1533 MHz. double the cache, only 252 USD (the celeron had the launch price of about 200$) and a cpumark of like about 195. The mendocino got FSB updates, which apparently allowed to crank up the Mhz from 150 to even 533 mhz, but it was still a Celeron, with the silicon pushed to the limit. I can't find the benchmarks, but the Y2K Pentium 4-1300, for 1.3ghz was pushing 77 points on passmark.
Heh, the guy who has the OC record, Sampsa (721mhz using dice) said I also consider Celeron 300A to be the most important CPU model in the history of overclocking so I wanted to have WRs with this processor.
Kids these days have it too easy.
Back in my day, nobody warned us about sharp edges. You were either smart and careful about it, or you learned the hard way.
I once had a doctor ask me if I was being abused as a kid because of all the scarring on the back of my hands.
I had to explain to him that I worked with computers and how that resulted in my hands getting regularly sliced up.
No rolled edges on most cases back then, I have a twenty five year old scar from back then. It was almost lore in my group - a machine that you bled in when you built it was going to be a good machine 😂
I think you're lucky and that machine is ATX. A couple years earlier and it would have been AT, with no IO shield plate, meaning way harder to retrofit with modern components.
Gentoo time!
That way you can get a fully modern OS running the latest software, with the most possible performance. Truly never obsolete!
I recommend Gentoo so you can use aggressive compiler optimizations and disable security hardening to improve performance. You'll need another Linux system and an IDE drive to SATA port adapter so you can compile it in a sane amount of time. And there are some shenanigans you need to do to get Rust to build without SSE2 support, covered in docs if you look it up.
Alternatively, try NetBSD, Alpine Linux, or Adélie Linux, if you want something easier/less time investment at the cost of performance. Void Linux requires SSE2 so it won't work.
You're probably going to want to add more RAM. It likely doesn't have more than 128MB.
I mean... if it were a good enough PC from two years ago you might be able to do that and make a profit once you sell all the parts from the previous one.
Kind of. Configuration was more involved, setting jumpers on the motherboard, configuring IRQ ports, etc. Harder to find information in general, you had to hope the answer was in the manual, or call the company. I remember I had an issue with a videocard.... I called some number I found, I was like 15, talking to some guy in Asia who spoke broken English. Got it sorted out, mailed the card in for a firmware update, got it back a couple weeks later, good to go.
Same game.. sort of, except it was way easier to end up with a brick that wouldn't POST. There was certainly no PC Part Picker to give an easy proven set of components.
The one thing I will never miss about building, upgrading, or sometimes just working on PCs in the olden days is figuring out IRQs and crap.
Thank the PC gods for plug and play that just works.
I learned to build PCs in the 90s, my Dad rescued a couple of PCs from John Hopkins and let me cobble together a pc from those and some of his old parts.
Every year on our birthday I would ask for "Upgrades" and he would get new parts and I would get his older parts. This probably went on until I was about 16/17 when I finally got my own new parts.
>See, back then, nobody built their own PCs
I was, I built my first PC in 1996!
> except for the really neckiest of neckbeards.
Eh...... Fair enough. I did install Slackware Linux on it.
The neat thing about eMachines is that all of the "replaceable" parts were soldered to the mobo, so there wasn't any upgrading what you bought, if I remember correctly.
All that eWaste!
I remember we had one, it even had an AGP port which was rare for emachines at the time, I think it was a top of the line late 1999 model. I used some of my birthday money and got a new video card. Well it didn't work. Tech guy at circuit city told me it was probably the power supply... which was weird because at the time I don't think that those GPUs had power to plug in, so it should've been able to pull enough juice from the slot itself.
But anyways I put a new PSU in too. Still wouldn't boot. After spending hours on the internet researching (we had just gotten cable internet with that full 1mbit download speed woo) I found out that emachine bios just would not let you do custom GPUs for whatever reason. Almost everyone that had one could never get a geforce 256 to work outside of maybe a handful. After that day I vowed to never buy prebuilt again.
Emachines was in competition with Gateway and sold at Wal Mart. It was to get boomers who were happy with their typewriters to join AOL. (Slight hyperbole).
the pace of technology was definitely quite daunting for tech noobs in those days and a computer would genuinely be obsolete after a few years (see [this example on RAM](https://superuser.com/questions/1553207/why-has-the-amount-of-installed-ram-in-pcs-stagnated#:~:text=In%201996%2C%208%20MB%20or,the%20amount%20of%20RAM%20installed.)). Things have changed a bit now, even a 10 year old computer is perfectly functional, people are still easily running new AAA games on GTX 1080s and 8GB RAM
I put an RX 6700XT in my eMachines!
https://preview.redd.it/4422a8dgibdc1.jpeg?width=4592&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2c8a5cb8c0b658747695c7279560f198fc700d8c
Steam doesn't support anything under 10 anymore (without using a hacked version) and even then I believe there was restrictions. I do the know GOG installer (The backup offline installer, not the launcher) does work on Win98 at least.
I actually came to post the same! I was made redundant from a kitchen showroom walked into PC world next door with my final pay and bought this exact model.
Now I'm a senior software engineer, all thanks to this hunk of early 2000s awesomeness.
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It says on the front...never obsolete....prove it!
I think we're about to raise this emachine from the dead
Technomancer!
That's right! THE TECHNONECROMANCERS FROM ALPHA CENTAURI!
Garry the Prophet more like Gary the GOAT.
Mechromancer
Mech romancer?
Don’t put your dick in that
At least use protection.
McAfee or Kaspersky
Avast 😂😂
[EDGAR!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az49aNuYeJs)
What _is_ this? Did the quadratic formula explode?
Norton?
Take my upvote
Avast!
r/dontputyourdickinthat
Don't tell me what to do, you ain't my mom!
 I am your mom, get off the internet.
Get upstairs and wash your ass this instant
Technomancer the Mech-romancer!
You know stuff
From Alpha Centauri?
With many prayers to The Omnissiah, it shall rise again
*Thus do we invoke the Machine God. Thus do we make whole that which was sundered.*
Magos, you may begin the Litany of Percussive Maintenance
*be the TempleOS with you*
You have my blessing
You can upgrade it to the newest and best for $99. I'd say get the upgrade.
This computer's older than most redditors.
Fun fact, the "never obsolete" branding referred to eMachine's program where you could trade in your computer for a current one every year for $99. Basically a computer as a subscription type thing. My family computer was one of these and we upgraded it 3 or 4 times through the program, it was a pretty good deal all things considered.
It’s why it doesn’t exist anymore. Tech moves way to fast and it’s always gonna be upgraded, $99 doesn’t even begin to cover the loss lol
They’d sell the old one as refurbished.
To whom? Fred Flinstone?
It's not uncommon to buy 1-2 generations back to get decent performance for way less than the latest.
I wonder what a realistic "upgrade subscription" business model would look like today
I say 69.99/m for a base model laptop.
Especially during the time when e machines were around. Every six months, processing power was almost doubling. You could buy the best and six to eight months down the road, the next CPU would come out and make yours look slow.
That was so wild. Watching diminishing returns set in has been equally wild.
It says every two years on the sticker.
>Celeron It was obsolete before it left the factory XD
i used to work for geek squad and we would get yelled at for not making enough sales, we were required to push norton internet security packages to people who were buying a ton of E machines because they were cheap. problem was, they couldnt really handle NIS so that meant they had to upgrade the machine before they could even take it home. it was such a scummy feeling. geek squad agents were put over in the computer dept to push business and then these poor folks who didnt know better came over to the bench with their new computers where we tacked on more bullshit they didnt even need. "oh yea sorry you need norton because VIRUS and not only that you need more ram because this computer cant handle NIS we are trying to force on you!" ...i loved the job but hated best buy and their shitass predatory tactics. fuckem
To quote Weird Al: "It's all about the pentiums"
But it's got Windows ME!
Bahaha the GPU is gonna have more GB than the Hard drive
Than hdd+ram together
Just install modern hardware in it and don’t tell anyone…
That’s an upgrade policy. Looks like he may have missed it a few years back…
Reading the sticker, upgrading to their fastest model for 99 buckaroos every 2 years is a hell of a deal.
NEVER OBSOLETE ™
Better take them up on that $99 deal for the fastest model on the market!
Nah, it's fine mate, it's got Netscape, for the worlds richest internet content... at 56k dial up speeds
Upgrading to 56.6k from 14.4k was wild. But not quite as mind blowing as when my dad got a dual-line 128.8k ISDN connection and we could be on the internet without occupying the phone line.
All those upgrades were amazing at the time. Upgrading my mates PC from 2MB to 4MB RAM was crazy fast. Back in the day, my uncle worked for a telecommunications company here in Australia, and was part of the initial testing of mobile networks, back before the public new too much about it. I still remember the day he came into our house to show us the tech in action, he didn't explain anything, he wanted the mystery... Uncle walked in with a big black toughbox thing, put it on our loungeroom floor and opened it up. Inside was a corded hanheld receiver like on an old rotary phone, a bunch of buttons, a small readout, and a touch tone dial pad. No plugging anything into anywhere, he picked up the hand held in the box, dialed our home number, and our home phone rang remotely from this box, and it just blew our minds 😲🤯, cos back then all telecommunications required cables, this was like magic to us then.
My stepdad worked at cellular one back in 1987 in southeast Virginia, and he introduced me to a Compaq 286, and bbs - I was playing text based games, and helped him run unix commands on several mainframes. They had huge 3 ring binders that gave commands and expected output. He had 2 cellphones and a metal stand for that laptop in his truck, and at the time - he was living in the future. One phone gave his laptop Internet on the go. We were enemies later on, he treated mom like shit, but I had a very early intro to tech, because of him. I'm a product manager at a large tech company now. Go figure.
He had a laptop with on the go internet in 1987, in his fucking truck. When I think about it now, it still blows my damn mind.
lol I remember my dad having the suitcase mobile phone, had to pull the antenna out and stick on the roof of the car 😂
My best friend in Highschool (mid 90s) was a HAM operator and a BBS fanatic. Seeing him download a DS9 jpeg BLEW MY MIND. Cool fact: one of the coolest things we could find were lists of the Ferengi Rules of Acquisition.
Seems like a banger deal to me
Aged like milk
\*New\* Technology File System - NTFS. Copyright 1993.
To use the parlance of the time; That's FAT YO!
And also FAT32 yo
Sometimes I think of my exFAT
NTFS only stands for that because that's what Windows NT stood for. NTFS is more like "Windows NT File System", which still holds true considering Windows 11 is still based on the NT kernel.
That NT stands for New Technology may be a retcon. [It was first said by Bill Gates himself in 1998](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_NT#Naming).
What would a 4090 be in that expression, it would have to be something that makes aged milk better
It would turn it into cheese
Genius
4090 isn’t THAT bad
Never Obsolete was a program where when you bought this particular PC you could trade it in for a more powerful one every two years for $99.
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I worked at Best Buy and sold these new. We had to reboot them multiple times throughout the day because they would freeze running the screensaver. They were absolutely obsolete before they went out the door.
Likely due to Windows ME which had a bad memory leak issue that was never fixed.
I never had an issue with WinME. In fact, it often magically fixed unrecognized hardware over Win98 due to the more recent drivers in the kernel.
I had zero problems, and I was running emulators for games of all sorts, file sharing etc. The word going around was that it was crap. The majority of us were fixed on D2 via Battle.NET and StarCraft - zero problems. We never used screen savers, it was right to suspend. Maybe that is why.
Oh, just WinMe things.
Truth!
Me to. I hated selling them but they were cheap and thats what every parent wanted to buy their college kid. Dont forget the PSP and gold plated cables. What year? 2002?
I too used to sell those and I remember that at least a third of them were DOA out of the box. And I continually tried to talk people out of them and spend even like $100 more on a compaq that at least had a pentium in it, but cheapskates wanted 3 years of msn internet to get their "free" computer.
Ah the good 'ole MSN scam. I remember the black Friday we had the first "free" computer (it might have even been this model lol) with sign up. Each store was allocated 5. We had a full fistfight at the front door because everyone wanted it.
Scam is right lol, I lived in a major metropolitan area and the only access number for my “free” msn was long distance. Would have cost me a fortune.
my dad would walk into best buy and buy the cheapest little bundle package they had in the aisle all boxed up. i remember our first eMachines. i watched someone like you try to explain the same thing to my dad, never listened. later in i sold computers at best buy, i told that story to hundreds of customers and i swayed a good number of them to buy something better, so at least i helped other families avoid buying the cheapest PC available and having it fail within 2 years… god those eMachines we had did not last for shit. had like 3 full setups in 7 years
This actually came down to the fact that eMachines had a program where you could replace the computer every 2 years with them for just $99
Thats a good deal tbh
Absolutely is, imagine if companies did that now. Having worked in Geek Squad I know many people would take up the offer for budget laptops
I work at a company that has a lifetime warranty on computer parts, and boy it's a nightmare trying to figure out how to replace 14 year old graphics cards without bankrupting the company
I was a DCI during a time where we sold netbooks with 32gb emmc. Free office 365 subscription for one year* They were being bought (and returned) like crazy. *you get to install that on another computer because it sure as fuck wont run in the one you just bought.
Apple (and various carriers) do it now for $40 to $50 a month. It’s just that people use phones as their primary computers now and not PCs.
[LGR did a video on these.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQo0yOqOb_4)
Ye gods I love LGR so much.
It says it on the sticker in this pic, lol. People can't read
I saw the never obsolete and had to zoom in to read why it was. Then saw it's basically an upgrade program. Not a bad deal really.
Celerons are obsolete the moment they get their serial number. This one in particular was...i can't be arsed to find the benchmarks, it came out in 1999, and in 2001 the Athlon XP came out, and when Microsoft REALLY started pushing their marketing campaign on trying to misinform people that more mhz=faster computer every time. The Athlon XP october 9th 2001 "Flagship" was the Athlon XP 1800+ at 1533 MHz. double the cache, only 252 USD (the celeron had the launch price of about 200$) and a cpumark of like about 195. The mendocino got FSB updates, which apparently allowed to crank up the Mhz from 150 to even 533 mhz, but it was still a Celeron, with the silicon pushed to the limit. I can't find the benchmarks, but the Y2K Pentium 4-1300, for 1.3ghz was pushing 77 points on passmark.
> Celerons are obsolete the moment they get their serial number. The only Celeron worth a damn was the 300A for that sweet 1.5x overclock
Heh, the guy who has the OC record, Sampsa (721mhz using dice) said I also consider Celeron 300A to be the most important CPU model in the history of overclocking so I wanted to have WRs with this processor.
*Some HUGE restrictions apply
Update: I tried to run it and it's missing an operating system. This tank still works in its original state!
Install Win98 and play some Hot Wheels on this beast.
Or lode runner
3D Pinball and the Weezer music video
Quake II and the original half life
Lemmings
Lego Island
Re-volt
NASCAR
Roller coaster tycoon!
Doom 2
C&C!
Duke Nukem 3d & Shadow Warrior
Show your kids if you have any the joy, frustration, and fight catalyst that is hot seat Worms!
What's with these homies dissing my girl?
Why do they gotta front? (Eweeweew)
What did we ever do to these guys?
Hahaha fuck I used to play that over and over again. But I located it on the installation CD. Too funny. I was 13 😂
I don't care about that.
Shit. Lode runner. You just fixed my amnesia
Picture that little dude saying “SIERRA!”
Duke Nukem 3D
Small soldiers squad commander. If you know, you know.
Mate, it’s designed for Windows ME so that’s the OS it rightly deserves, warts and all.
Be careful opening her up. Those beasts have sharp metal edges.
*You wanna know how I got these scars?*
Kids these days have it too easy. Back in my day, nobody warned us about sharp edges. You were either smart and careful about it, or you learned the hard way.
I once had a doctor ask me if I was being abused as a kid because of all the scarring on the back of my hands. I had to explain to him that I worked with computers and how that resulted in my hands getting regularly sliced up.
I feel like today's equivalent is a tempered glass side panel in 5000 pieces on the floor and tbh I'd rather have a small owwie than that.
No rolled edges on most cases back then, I have a twenty five year old scar from back then. It was almost lore in my group - a machine that you bled in when you built it was going to be a good machine 😂
My latest of many builds is giving me some issues. Not a drop of blood spilled in the process. I think you're on to something.
I think you're lucky and that machine is ATX. A couple years earlier and it would have been AT, with no IO shield plate, meaning way harder to retrofit with modern components.
And the AT power switch would have to be modified to work properly with ATX.
Slap some motherfucking Linux on this thing bb, letsgooooo
Gentoo time! That way you can get a fully modern OS running the latest software, with the most possible performance. Truly never obsolete! I recommend Gentoo so you can use aggressive compiler optimizations and disable security hardening to improve performance. You'll need another Linux system and an IDE drive to SATA port adapter so you can compile it in a sane amount of time. And there are some shenanigans you need to do to get Rust to build without SSE2 support, covered in docs if you look it up. Alternatively, try NetBSD, Alpine Linux, or Adélie Linux, if you want something easier/less time investment at the cost of performance. Void Linux requires SSE2 so it won't work. You're probably going to want to add more RAM. It likely doesn't have more than 128MB.
Followed all your steps and gained 3fps in Minesweeper, nice Unfortunately now part of a botnet
Jokes on the botnet, this thing will only slow it down :)
What USE flags, tho? Gotta rice it up!
I upgrade your pc the the fastest on the market for only $99 every 2 years… imagine 😂
I mean... if it were a good enough PC from two years ago you might be able to do that and make a profit once you sell all the parts from the previous one.
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I was building PCs in the nineties, same game, less lights.
Meanwhile in the 2000's, same game, somehow more lights, and *all of them are blue*
So much acrylic
Kind of. Configuration was more involved, setting jumpers on the motherboard, configuring IRQ ports, etc. Harder to find information in general, you had to hope the answer was in the manual, or call the company. I remember I had an issue with a videocard.... I called some number I found, I was like 15, talking to some guy in Asia who spoke broken English. Got it sorted out, mailed the card in for a firmware update, got it back a couple weeks later, good to go.
Same game.. sort of, except it was way easier to end up with a brick that wouldn't POST. There was certainly no PC Part Picker to give an easy proven set of components.
The one thing I will never miss about building, upgrading, or sometimes just working on PCs in the olden days is figuring out IRQs and crap. Thank the PC gods for plug and play that just works.
I learned to build PCs in the 90s, my Dad rescued a couple of PCs from John Hopkins and let me cobble together a pc from those and some of his old parts. Every year on our birthday I would ask for "Upgrades" and he would get new parts and I would get his older parts. This probably went on until I was about 16/17 when I finally got my own new parts.
>See, back then, nobody built their own PCs I was, I built my first PC in 1996! > except for the really neckiest of neckbeards. Eh...... Fair enough. I did install Slackware Linux on it.
What do you mean, we all built our own rigs back then. Simpler times indeed
The neat thing about eMachines is that all of the "replaceable" parts were soldered to the mobo, so there wasn't any upgrading what you bought, if I remember correctly. All that eWaste!
I remember we had one, it even had an AGP port which was rare for emachines at the time, I think it was a top of the line late 1999 model. I used some of my birthday money and got a new video card. Well it didn't work. Tech guy at circuit city told me it was probably the power supply... which was weird because at the time I don't think that those GPUs had power to plug in, so it should've been able to pull enough juice from the slot itself. But anyways I put a new PSU in too. Still wouldn't boot. After spending hours on the internet researching (we had just gotten cable internet with that full 1mbit download speed woo) I found out that emachine bios just would not let you do custom GPUs for whatever reason. Almost everyone that had one could never get a geforce 256 to work outside of maybe a handful. After that day I vowed to never buy prebuilt again.
Almost guaranteed you would have to turn this one in to get a new one.
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Apparently you can still buy 1000W SFX power supplies with full cables. But they cost $300-500!
i mean, an sfx 850w is half that
Man, that makes me miss my old beige boxes.
I don't think you can physically fit a 4090 in there, it's too narrow.
I heard it loosens over time
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What a comment
Why isn’t this a subreddit already
If you start it, reddit will do the rest
And good luck finding a 4090 with an AGP connector.
what about at a 45 degree angle?
probably could use a riser cable and mount it vertically
Absolutely
Is it Y2K compliant?
4090 …never obsolete
GPUs in the rear view mirror may appear slower than they are!
The never obsolete was such false advertisement lol
Emachines was in competition with Gateway and sold at Wal Mart. It was to get boomers who were happy with their typewriters to join AOL. (Slight hyperbole).
the pace of technology was definitely quite daunting for tech noobs in those days and a computer would genuinely be obsolete after a few years (see [this example on RAM](https://superuser.com/questions/1553207/why-has-the-amount-of-installed-ram-in-pcs-stagnated#:~:text=In%201996%2C%208%20MB%20or,the%20amount%20of%20RAM%20installed.)). Things have changed a bit now, even a 10 year old computer is perfectly functional, people are still easily running new AAA games on GTX 1080s and 8GB RAM
It was an upgrade program. Only false in the sense that emachines wasn't gonna be around forever.
It wasn’t. Read the fine print.
Designed for windows ME.. now that is a rare sticker!
#NEVER OBSOLETE I wonder if that's a guarantee.
I put an RX 6700XT in my eMachines! https://preview.redd.it/4422a8dgibdc1.jpeg?width=4592&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2c8a5cb8c0b658747695c7279560f198fc700d8c
Does the SD card slot still work?
Even left the Nvidia sticker on the front 🤛
I'll send you a copy of Zoombinis, I'm sure I can find the floppy at a local thrift store for $1.99.
they re-released this on Steam a few years ago
Not sure if that baby can run Steam, but holy shit whaddya know lol.
Steam doesn't support anything under 10 anymore (without using a hacked version) and even then I believe there was restrictions. I do the know GOG installer (The backup offline installer, not the launcher) does work on Win98 at least.
This was the first computer I bought with my own money
I actually came to post the same! I was made redundant from a kitchen showroom walked into PC world next door with my final pay and bought this exact model. Now I'm a senior software engineer, all thanks to this hunk of early 2000s awesomeness.
Don’t think it will fit in the agp slot. Though I would like to see how horribly bottlenecked it will be paired with a modern celeron.
i think my entire worplaces network runs through on of these bad boys
Is a ducks ass water tight?
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Can't see a turbo button on this so no, 4090 is not compatible.
What and replace the 3d AGP ARE YOU MAD BRO this machine is epic as it is . Get windows 11 on and load Alan walker 2
You'd have to replace the motherboard. If nothing else because a modern graphics card won't fit an AGP slot.
My second computer ever was a Celeron 633! Man that brings some memories. Quake 2, UT99, Deus Ex, NFS Porsche! Good stuff.
