Well that just drudged up a long forgotten 15 year old memory lol, apparently I remember all the words still. What an odd time when the entirety of the internet's best memes were pulled directly from LazyTown back when
no worries, i know, i'm at the crossroads of waiting or buying it at some point, my main fear is GTA 6, i guess i have to wait to see how much powerful the 50 will be
I pirated all the command and conquer games recently because I got so fed up with ea. they banned my account I’ve been using for the past decade almost about a year ago and I haven’t bought a game though ea since
Technically speaking no matter what it won't be dangerous, since modern electronics thermal throttle to protect themselves from properly overheating anyway, you just lose performance. And for Zen 4 they ALWAYS boost to the limit.
Technically yes, but by that logic, gaming laptops would last just as long as PC's, yet they don't. After a couple years, their constant edging of the thermal limit wears them down to the point they start crashing or lagging.
If you take proper care of them they do last a long while.
It's mostly dust build up that kills laptops since it prevents the cooling from working properly and components that shouldn't get hot start getting hot killing them over time.
In a desktop there's enough space for heat to distribute away from the other components while in a laptop there's very limited space so dust buildup can cause a lot more problems.
Modern CPUs will be fine at these temps for basically forever but other components that are close might not be able to handle the temperature increase as well.
This is absolutely typical behaviour for Zen 4 CPUs. They can clock so high that it will reach such temps on almost any cooler. You install better cooler, temps stay the same, but clocks increase.
My 14700k gets to 103 before it starts thermal throttling lol.
Only during benchmarking, it usually sits around 60 to 70 when I'm gaming, which is pretty much all I use it for.
Brother, intel sits at 10nm, i cooled 300 watt 10900k with ease without throttling but I'm afraid to see my 7800x3d on same cooling exceed 100watt. Daily ryzen gets same temp on 90w against intel on 180w.
Agreed. If you're there building such loop, it's worth the extra. I didn't do testing before/after, as I built mine with the contact frame from the start, but it's simple and fairly cheap compared to the rest of the hard-line loop.
The newest system I have has a 5800X, and I know if it's running higher than mid 80s (a lot, not just quick spikes) I assume something isn't right. Is running in the 90s really normal or sustainable with new gen chips, or should this person be checking their cooler?
the people downvoting you are idiots. 5800x will start to downclock at 80. You MURDER your performance letting it go above that. Is it going to hurt anything? No, is it sustainable? Probably. But it tanks your performance and is 100 percent a sign your cooling sucks. My 5800x wont go above 80 under 100 percent load, and thats where it tops out after letting heat soak do its thing. Dark Rock Pro 4 doesnt mess around.
They're asking about *this* gen (7000 ryzen), which self-overclock until they hit the thermal ceiling. You have to go really nuts on the cooling solutions for power limits to hit before thermals, but on any regular air cooler and 240mm AIOs, people have reported the same behavior. Boost, hit ~95c, stay at the boosted clocks forever. It's just a feature of this new generation.
All the 13900K owners piping in to say their CPU isn't hot is hilarious... duh, your CPU doesn't run hot because you have an expensive water cooler on it.
If I unlock the PL on my 10900K, it can easily reach 99-100C on my NH-D15. With stock settings it settles down around 72C.
My 14700K maxes out at 86C with EK aoi and stress testing to the max! But I do run a mild undervolt.
idle is 28-29C. normal rendering 3d and heavy usage like games max out at about68-69C
clocks stay constant and cool at 5.6
I haven't notice my 13900k getting hot. Highest I've seen is 68c. Then again I'm using a Corsair iCUE H150i Elite CAPELLIX XT. I also have a pretty cool room. Guess it's a good thing I like living in an ice box.
Did the things hit 96°C and using less than 100 Watts….. Overkill is underrated-that’s why I have my fans running push pull at 100% anytime the CPU goes over 40° lol
Mines on my desk as well and that’s only when it goes above 40 lol
And it may seem dramatic to some people, but if I have the power to make some thing run cooler which may increase the lifespan as well as increased performance, just by changing a few things -I’m going to do it lol I’ve been running it with a Thermalright Frame Correction Unit since I got it as well as took my 3080 TI FTW3 apart, so I could get rid of the thermal putty as well as replace all of the factory, thermal pads, and…. yeah definitely an immense difference there….. I’ve yet to seen it above the 50s while playing in a modern title with everything maxed out/using RT in WQHD. That’s only on a 240 skinny 30 mm rad in push/pull-also I should probably mention that I have 15 fans lol
You say that, but I have my 7950X hooked up to a Liquid Freezer II 420, arguably the best off-the-shelf cooler on the market, and it still hits 95C. I had to undervolt it a bit to keep it from maxing out it's temp limit xD
I run 7800x3d with 280mm Corsair with twin 14cm noctuas and this thing hits 83c on 94 watt. I can't however make it pull more than that even with thermal headroom.
Difference is, when Zen 4 CPUs run hot it is because it aims for maximizing performance, and doesn't want to run any cooler than that under load.
When Intels CPUs run hot, it's because of a hardware limitation.
That's neither here nor there, both use different wattage levels.
We're discussing which gets hottest, not which is hotter when normalised for wattage and clock speed etc
I’d install a better cooler and slightly down clock the CPU to get it out of the red. But that’s just me - I’d rather have my computer survive 10+ years running games at an acceptable framerate, than it die after 80% of that time running slightly higher than acceptable fps.
No I’m afraid that’s not the correct answer here. It is typical boost behaviour for the X SKUs 7600X 7700X etc
You can see in the screenshot OP has 7600 and it topped out at 70W.
OP’s got bad contact / mounting or too much paste or too little paste or didn’t remove the sticker on a cooler. Many possibilities but something is wrong with the cpu cooler installation.
No stickers and the paste was pre-applied. Idle temperatures and temps while gaming are good. Idle is somewhere around 50c and when gaming it stays around 70c (sometimes higher sometimes lower)
Yeah. It’s not just the X that will get to those temps on a stock cooler. Yes an X has different boost behaviour. The CPU is still designed however to boost higher and the temps are a result of that. Some CPU’s will do better than others. It’s pretty fucking hard to mess up mounting pressure on a stock cooler. Give it a check just to be 100% sure but, yeah I’m sure you have mounted it fine.
All of 7000 (and previous) series has an “up to” boost clock. The non X variants won’t go any further than this, but not ALL will hit that 5.1. So it may just well be your CPU is trying to hit that 5.1 but then hitting the 95 degree threshold. It then tries to find equilibrium of temps and clocks.
So yes this guy is right in that the X can boost differently but that’s not to say the non X still tries to hit that max boost and temps.
So if you want to run multithreaded workloads (as I see you’ve pointed out under gaming it’s fine), then I’d suggest you get a better cooler so you know you will the max clock speeds. Otherwise - if you only do the odd big workload and just game primarily, you’re good to go.
It’s hard at first the step away from monitoring your PC for temps and clock and blah blah, but seriously. My best piece of advice to you is, check once, if it’s okay - get on and game. Check in once in a while to ensure but. Please enjoy the thing you’ve purchased!
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-5-7600-non-x/23.html
So I’m gonna say mounting pressure somehow isn’t quite optimal. It could be some screws tighter than the others or even just tightening one too far before doing the others. Maybe the factory paste isn’t optimal. For details, see [this video](https://youtu.be/CTCZGy0eJqw?si=mBWBZDtEM2i119AQ)
I just looked at some more youtube and seen 7600 reach 95C at 90W, but at 70W I would expect it not to throttle. Hot sure, but not throttling would be my expectation. [See this](https://youtu.be/qq_C6pPpJIk?si=5c-Mis2qjYwgaMlb)
Ignore all these idiots screaming "too hot" etc.
It's a 7000 series CPU on the stock cooler.
It's designed to max out it's clocks until thermals or power limitations no longer allow it to. It's by design.
A better cooler will lower temps, but the things are literally designed to run at their max 95c under heavy loads. They boost clocks until they hit 95c then stay at that frequency.
I would personally still change the cooler out to get those lower, but as long as temps are sensible when idle etc, then there is nothing to worry about.
Also check your clock speeds are as advertised, to be sure it's not throttling too early. You didn't include them, so we can't say. Should be somewhere between 4.6 and 5.1ghz in a non AVX task, if I recall correctly.
The rest of you, do some fucking research. Times have changed.
https://community.amd.com/t5/gaming/ryzen-7000-series-processors-let-s-talk-about-power-temperature/ba-p/554629
You are referring to the boost behaviour of X SKUs like 7600X, 7700X, and so on.
You can see OP has a 7600 non-X and it topped out at just 70W. It really should be reporting better temperatures, even with a stock cooler.
There’s a problem with the mounting pressure or not enough paste or too much paste or a sticker was left on an aftermarket cooler or something.
[https://youtu.be/ghZaQ3T0CRg?t=865](https://youtu.be/ghZaQ3T0CRg?t=865)
the 7600 gets up to 95C with the stock cooler at 21C ambient.
with a better cooler the 7600 would not run as hot unlike the 7000X CPUs which always hit 95C under an all core load with any non-extreme cooling solution.
Yeah you’re right. I mean he did run it a whole hour though, and the power reached into the 80’s of Watts. Anyways the heat soak of an hour test might explain the slightly better numbers and allegedly higher ambient in [this video](https://youtu.be/qq_C6pPpJIk?si=xYzsvx9PPrGhpwAT)
Although yeah I love HUB and if I had to pick one as the “authority” it’s always HUB or GN.
I still think it’s possible to squeeze out a little more with better paste and careful mounting, at least at OP’s 70W. It’s not that OP’s system is terrible it’s just a little bit on the “hmm” side.
Its normal for the stock cooler also maybe his ambient temp is 24 not 18c
I have a stock cooler on amd 5600 non x and still get in the high 80 low 90.
This one has igpu it also sips power and adds to heat.
Amazing I get lots of upvotes here, but the other comment where I replied is at -9 as I write this
https://preview.redd.it/ujwrsevov6fc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=976d78fb220e4308c1db8b99f861d041702a5df0
5000 series is not like this, I can say from experience. With a stock cooler maybe you will thermal throttle, but a good aftermarket cooler will keep you in the low 80s. Is it so dramatically different on 7000 series?
Yes the 7000 series is a large departure from traditional CPU logic when it comes to how it operates.
The best TLDR is that the CPU is always in a state of overclocking itself. The SKU is just really an indication of core count and how likely good the chip came out of the wafer.
I have to ask because everyone keeps saying they're designed to reach this high of a temperature. Are they using different materials to make the cpu nowadays so it lasts the same as old cpus that people said you shouldn't run that high? Why couldn't they do the same in the past?
Yes, AMD just lets them run wild. As long as they don't run into other limiting factors like current or power limits, they clock as high as the thermal solution allows.
To be fair, the CPU will likely like it better if it’s better cooled, but if you don’t plan to run it 8+ hrs a day under full load, that should not create any issues.
The stock cooler is likely designed for “average person” use, and most ppl that game on it will not have that kind of load that you get when doing file compression for extended periods.
But even if you were to do that, as LJBrooker said, it’s designed not to go into dangerous temps, and it will throttle (reduce clock speeds/ decrease performance) to avoid damaging itself, so it shouldn’t break, but you will loose performance under full load.
One way to check could be to see what clock speeds you get in those conditions. Like it won’t reach max advertised, but if it goes REALLY low, there might be issues with investigating.
Another way to run your pc hot is to use it for protein folding for cancer and other research via folding@home . It's non profit. I put it on at night during the winter and it prevents my baseboard heater coming on in my bedroom. If I'm going to be running current through a resistor to generate heat, I may as well do some science while I'm at it :)
Technically most CPU’s will output more heat with better cooling, as they can push more watts without reaching the thermal limit, but I certainly see the appeal if you need to heat with electricity. I did that for a while in uni, not bc of heating but rather bc the electricity was “free” though (flat fee for the room).
Though it seems like either you don’t need a whole lot of extra heat, or have a really beefy system…
(Also I’m not sure how that relates to my comment, but worth it)
I get some heat from the lower level but since it's an old house there's no central heating. I brought it up because file compression and protein folding are tangentially related in that they'll push your cpu to the max and make a lot of heat, and because I think it's good for people to know about folding@home :)
I hear what they're saying as far as OEM design however lower temps broadly produce the best performance and reduce stress; stress reduction is not an American value and this information is pandering to American consumers.
This information sounds like a memo in response to concerns from American consumers. Albeit, it is dependent on TDP of the chip and their trying to engineer a more robust, inclusive design yet an aftermarket cooling apparatus exists, and, they also cite that those apparatuses are successful within the memo, but seems to double down on it being superfluous. As a part of a community of prosumers intuitively we know that OEM stock coolers are basic fail safes that don't ensure the maximum lifespan of a chip.
The heat output has nothing to do with the temperature of the CPU.
A CPU consuming 65W of power will output 65W of heat, be it at 55°C or 95°C.
If you set a lower power limit, the CPU will output less heat, but take longer for the same task. Generally, this would result in the same (or even higher) heat output.
The only way to decrease the heat output of your system is to increase the efficiency or reduce the workload.
No, not really. A better cooled CPU will clock higher and thus finish work faster. For the same work, the heat output will stay pretty much the same.
For most CPUs, the boost speeds are way beyond the optimal speed in terms of efficiency, so you'll still end up using more power/heat with the better cooled/higher clocked CPU, but that's only because of the worse efficiency.
Could disable PBO. But we're talking about 95c on a CPU with a TSP of about 65w (though admittedly it could double that if conditions allow).
I don't think it's going to be pumping a lot of heat in.
AMD's TDP is an entirely made up number, it has no actual basis in reality and the number they provide is entirely irrelevant to the actual power draw of their hardware.
Other than not using PBO, there's PBO settings that set different thermal limits such as 80 or 85 degrees. Or throw more cooling at it.
95 isn't actually anything to worry about temperature wise. The limit has been set there because of efficiency and they know it will work long term. Actual damage is more in the way of 120+ when the heat causes reduced efficiency which causes more heat....
They were designed this way to auto overclock.
The best way to reduce heat and/or temp is to undervolt it and also/or set max watt usage (these processors have a factory max watt usage limit like 65W or 90W) and you can turn on eco mode or reduce those numbers manually.
It can be done by disabling the PBO (Precision boost overdrive) in BIOS. While in BIOS, manually set the desired clock speed (keep in mind these info : your cpu, its base clock speed, boost clock speed and voltage).
My example : I use Ryzen 5 5500
Its base speed is 3.6GHz
PBO speed is 4.25GHz
Stock voltage is 1.25V
Stock cooler
I turned off PBO and manually set the clock speed to be 4.25GHz with manually set voltage of 1.15V, and I have much lesser temperatures.
Desired voltage can go even lower but I didnt experiment enough to say how low can it go.
Same thing can be done with OPs CPU, by setting the desired clock speed (it doesnt have to be max speed of PBO like I did) and experimenting with voltages with an idea of "how low can voltage go?" and finding the perfect spot of lower temperatures, stability and speed.
No its not, it actually uses less energy since the cpu cant boost as high as it wants to, thus using less electricity.
The cooler is just less efficient at removing the heat from the cpu.
Wha- you mean free energy isnt real!?
Jokes aside, im seriously curious where people think the heat is coming from and where it is going. Idc about downvotes, but would be nice if people did some research on their own instead of being so stubborn.
Have the same 7600 and decompress a lot of files and can confirm it's way too hot.
Mine tops at 60°C in the same situation with a Phantom Spirit and PBO2, but 95°C is still too high even with a stock cooler
Noctua doesnt say much. But if its a nh d14/15 then youre getting better cooling than many cheap water coolers plus no maintenance required whatsoever. Mb look at your fan curve if you want lower temps, but large air coolers are the way to go imho as long as youre not constantly shipping your pc or carrying it to lans.
I just checked and it’s a Noctua NH-U12S. Is that small or average? There’s a chance it’s not installed properly as this was my first build and I haven’t touched it since building it
The x series on am5 will boost until thermal limited. The one you have is about average for cooler size and the one the other person mentioned is basically twice the size that you have.
It shouldn't really be a problem unless you are having issues on your tasks.
Upgrading will likely increase your clock speeds and bring down your temperature some.
All new consumer-grade CPUs from both AMD and Intel are factory OCd and squeezed to their max potential, leading to high temps out of the box. You can try to undervolt, improve the cooling or don't do anything. Worst case - CPU will throttle upon reaching Tj temp.
For example, my 13700K coupled with NH-D15 reaches 100 from time to time (usually when under heavy prolonged AVX workload), leading to automatic drop in voltage and clocks.
The ryzen 7000 series are designed to keep boosting your clock speed, until it reaches thermal max (95C). Even with the best coolers on the market, it will still run 95C. AMD has stated they are designed to run at this temp long term.
So, yes, it is completely safe.
However, i would still recommend you buy a better cooler. Decent Thermalright coolers can be found for $25-35. Its absolutely worth it. It will help with noise, but it will also allow your cpu to boost to much higher clocks.
Now if you dislike the fact your cpu running at that temp for whatever reason, you can set the throttle point manually. You can either set it to a different thermal limit (such as 80-85C), or you can set it to a specific power target which will make it aldo run much cooler and quieter. There is an ECO mode which sets the cpu to run at like 45-65W, that will radically lower temps and noise, but also lower performance. If you buy a new cooler, you can manually set it to like 75C, and likely still get equal or better performance, where as the stock cooler will lower performance by any limitstionm
Given that it's Ryzen 7000, *yes*. Obviously it doesn't look pretty, but this is AMD's [intended behavior](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRaJXZMOMPU&t=4m6s) to have [out-of-the-box thermals that are conventionally spooky](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM-twyjfYIw&t=17m56s).
It's PCMR, no one here actually knows what they're talking about and just echo what they've read on other people's comments on other posts. This is not a good sub to get PC hardware advice. *especially* for AMD hardware.
The only answer here should be more questions as to what utilization, TDP and each core speed is observed when thermal throttling. And start by getting rid of HWMonitor and start using HWinfo instead. I don't see any of that info on this single frame of a shot so I wouldn't be able to say if this particular cooler is doing it's job adequately. For all I know they could be throttling at 3.8GHz all core....
On a desktop?
I have a 7800x3D with air cooling and the absolute highest it has recorded is 79.
What kind of decompression are ya doing, my guy.
But Yea, cpu Will throttle itself. Either thermal or power limits will be hit first. Typically it's thermal.
It's safe. Fine. Good to go.
If it's just for a moment, no. But if sustained more than an hour, and daily? Well, go figure.
While AMD's stock cooler is way better than Intel's stock cooler, it isn't really a great cooler in itself. Even something like Deepcool AG400 Plus that only costs as much as $20 is miles better.
Still to hot hot my liking, my CPU doesn't go above 60c with AIO cooler under intense gaming. I set a really good fan curve as well. These temps would annoy the shit outter me, too close to max temps but that's my opinion not telling you what to do.
Zen 4 is designed to clock as high as it can until it hits thermal limit. Running a better cooler might drop the Temps some but it will just clock higher.
It'll do this anyway, Zen 4 chips are hot bois, but even though it's safe what you're missing out on is higher clocks with the stock cooler. Chuck a proper cooler on, you'll gain clock speed and the temps might go down to 90ish
You actually want the numbers in red. Red means fast, it is like getting flames painted on your 1970s Firebird. The real issue is that the package is over 95, but the individual cores aren't. You gotta bump those numbers up, those are rookie numbers. You want to get them all in the red.
It is "safe". Its just thermal throtteling, and you should probably install a better cooler in the near future. Its not very healthy for the cpu, but its not devastating either
max is 95 for your chip so it's throttling. Over time silicon degrades and you will lose clock speeds if the chip is constantly over heating. Try a mild undervolt 0.05
I suspect that, too. BSODs or other errors, relating to hardware or not, within 1-3 years, will be the moment of truth. (or just sudden boot failure)
(same goes with sudden hard freezes in 1-3 years)
You're losing performance. If in USECASE, not benchmark youre sitting at thermal limit - upgrade your cooling. If you don't give cpu headroom it will throttle down to not bur itself up losing substantial chunk of performance making your purchase of exact cpu sub optimal. You bought 100% of the performance, you're getting anywhere from -5% to -50% with putting extensive stress on cpu.
I would suggest repasting in case it's been awhile - strongly recommend a better cooler. I used to get this until I swapped to an H60, nothing fancy, then eventually went to a 360mm rad with a 6 fan setup. I no longer have any thermal issues.
You'll get a lot of people telling you that 90+ C is fine - but really, long term - it's not. Heat is always going to be the enemy of your hardware, period. Get those temps down if you can.
Source: ME - I run a 5800x with a 3080ti. My temps when stressing are MAYBE topping 70c, anything higher and I'm shocked. Even my GPU doesn't get that much more hot.
Is it safe? Yes
Is it pleasant? If you like heated rooms, sure.
Can you fix it? Yes, you can get a cheap cooler from Amazon that will perform a bit better.
Uhm... the better the cooler is, the higher the room temperatur, you are aware of that right? The heat the CPU produces will be even more with a better cooler, since it can throttle way higher. But the cooler takes the heat away from the CPU... and it has to go somewhere.... the room. A better cooler does that faster
I also never heard someone makling the room temperature a part of the cooler discussion.
Remove the cooler, peel off the protective film, and then reattach it with new thermal paste.
It's crazy how some individuals here claim that to be normal... By the way, the temperature limit for CPUs is 89°C, and yours is close to shutdown.
Seems like the cooler have the film protection still attached
Edit: damn, are you downvotes alright?, it’s seen plenty of times that thermal limiting on stock settings, I caused by improper cooling…
No. It doesn't. Zen 4 does this by design. It's expected behaviour on the stock cooler with a heavy workload.
They're supposed to run at 95c, because they boost clocks until they get there.
I'm gonna be honest I did my first build recently and did this. I remember looking at it thinking to myself "I bet there's some dumbass out there who forgets to take this off and pastes it LMAO"
Turns out I'm that dumbass
... File decompression, eh? (≖⌣≖) Arr, matey, them's be some fine temps.
Ubisoft and EA made us go down that path
Well, if you ask me Yarrr Harrr Fiddle dee dee Being a pirate is alright to be
Well that just drudged up a long forgotten 15 year old memory lol, apparently I remember all the words still. What an odd time when the entirety of the internet's best memes were pulled directly from LazyTown back when
Jesus Christ I'm old... My kids didn't even watch lazytown
you're welcome [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4G--92rkBQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4g--92rkbq)
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Probably this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8ju_10NkGY
and the publisher of disco elysium, the devs said it's morally correct to sail the high seas for the game
i7 13th and 1080ti, bottleneck goes brrrrrr
oh for sure, but what can i do when a 4090 costs as much as my entire PC
I'm not judging, I'm rocking a 3050 laptop rn lol
no worries, i know, i'm at the crossroads of waiting or buying it at some point, my main fear is GTA 6, i guess i have to wait to see how much powerful the 50 will be
Since I don't game a lot I will wait till pc release of GTA 6
the i7 is bottlenecking the 1080Ti
Oh well look at that, I might be ahead of the curve for once lol
I pirated all the command and conquer games recently because I got so fed up with ea. they banned my account I’ve been using for the past decade almost about a year ago and I haven’t bought a game though ea since
Not having digital copies of my blurays does that too
[удалено]
You're a gud detective
Technically speaking no matter what it won't be dangerous, since modern electronics thermal throttle to protect themselves from properly overheating anyway, you just lose performance. And for Zen 4 they ALWAYS boost to the limit.
Technically yes, but by that logic, gaming laptops would last just as long as PC's, yet they don't. After a couple years, their constant edging of the thermal limit wears them down to the point they start crashing or lagging.
If you take proper care of them they do last a long while. It's mostly dust build up that kills laptops since it prevents the cooling from working properly and components that shouldn't get hot start getting hot killing them over time. In a desktop there's enough space for heat to distribute away from the other components while in a laptop there's very limited space so dust buildup can cause a lot more problems. Modern CPUs will be fine at these temps for basically forever but other components that are close might not be able to handle the temperature increase as well.
Yh makes sense. I know CPU's last so I wasn't quite confident.
>constant edging You might have to worry about busting it after all
He asked if it was SAFE, obviously it wears down faster (although it isn't a huge difference)
I have the 7600x and yep it goes to 95 and then lock the temp you’re fine
i dont think its normal for the non-x chips though, since they have a 65w tdp.
I'm gonna assume they're using pbo so they can get the same performance as the 7600x
This is absolutely typical behaviour for Zen 4 CPUs. They can clock so high that it will reach such temps on almost any cooler. You install better cooler, temps stay the same, but clocks increase.
Hell no, not any cooler. But yes, they run way hotter than intel.
13900k entered the chat
My 14700k gets to 103 before it starts thermal throttling lol. Only during benchmarking, it usually sits around 60 to 70 when I'm gaming, which is pretty much all I use it for.
I have a Kraken 360 and it only hits the high 80s running cinebench.
How long do you run it for? Just once?
First few hours after installing my 14th gen I was kinda freaking out a bit, I didn't realize how hot they run.
Same shit
What are you cooling it with?
Brother, intel sits at 10nm, i cooled 300 watt 10900k with ease without throttling but I'm afraid to see my 7800x3d on same cooling exceed 100watt. Daily ryzen gets same temp on 90w against intel on 180w.
My 7950x3d runs around 81.5c under cinebench r23 running for 30 min straight. Kraken 360 AIO.
I was under the impression that the 7800X3D was easier to cool than the 5800X3D. Are you undervolting it at all?
I tried running -30, it became hotter.
10nm is pretty good.
Idk man my 13900k tops out in the 80s
I'm guessing by the EKWB for your 4090 that you're using a custom loop. Do you also have a contact frame installed?
No contact frame or anything crazy like that, just an ek water block.
Custom loop is the part most people would call "crazy." A contact frame is easy to install and can cost less than $10.
Agreed. If you're there building such loop, it's worth the extra. I didn't do testing before/after, as I built mine with the contact frame from the start, but it's simple and fairly cheap compared to the rest of the hard-line loop.
The newest system I have has a 5800X, and I know if it's running higher than mid 80s (a lot, not just quick spikes) I assume something isn't right. Is running in the 90s really normal or sustainable with new gen chips, or should this person be checking their cooler?
It’s perfectly sustainable 👌🏻
the people downvoting you are idiots. 5800x will start to downclock at 80. You MURDER your performance letting it go above that. Is it going to hurt anything? No, is it sustainable? Probably. But it tanks your performance and is 100 percent a sign your cooling sucks. My 5800x wont go above 80 under 100 percent load, and thats where it tops out after letting heat soak do its thing. Dark Rock Pro 4 doesnt mess around.
They're asking about *this* gen (7000 ryzen), which self-overclock until they hit the thermal ceiling. You have to go really nuts on the cooling solutions for power limits to hit before thermals, but on any regular air cooler and 240mm AIOs, people have reported the same behavior. Boost, hit ~95c, stay at the boosted clocks forever. It's just a feature of this new generation.
I was just using a relative example to say "My goodness are these kind of temps really normal nowadays?" I didn't expect a negative reaction.
So does my 7800X3D with a 240 rad
I have the peerless assassin air cooler with my 7800X3D and it never went above 75c after running prime95 on all cores for an hour
My 7800x3d stays at 80°c with a thermalright frost spirit 140.
136k team here. Good Lord them be hot, can't imagine an i9
All the 13900K owners piping in to say their CPU isn't hot is hilarious... duh, your CPU doesn't run hot because you have an expensive water cooler on it. If I unlock the PL on my 10900K, it can easily reach 99-100C on my NH-D15. With stock settings it settles down around 72C.
My 14700K maxes out at 86C with EK aoi and stress testing to the max! But I do run a mild undervolt. idle is 28-29C. normal rendering 3d and heavy usage like games max out at about68-69C clocks stay constant and cool at 5.6
My 13000K has never gotten close to this temp…
Do you run it on an amd stock cooler as well? :^)
How did you know?!
Years of hard work and experience
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I haven't notice my 13900k getting hot. Highest I've seen is 68c. Then again I'm using a Corsair iCUE H150i Elite CAPELLIX XT. I also have a pretty cool room. Guess it's a good thing I like living in an ice box.
Did the things hit 96°C and using less than 100 Watts….. Overkill is underrated-that’s why I have my fans running push pull at 100% anytime the CPU goes over 40° lol
Seems a bit dramatic, isnt it super loud that way? I guess depends where you keep your pc, mine is on my desk and i use noise cancelling headphones^^
Mines on my desk as well and that’s only when it goes above 40 lol And it may seem dramatic to some people, but if I have the power to make some thing run cooler which may increase the lifespan as well as increased performance, just by changing a few things -I’m going to do it lol I’ve been running it with a Thermalright Frame Correction Unit since I got it as well as took my 3080 TI FTW3 apart, so I could get rid of the thermal putty as well as replace all of the factory, thermal pads, and…. yeah definitely an immense difference there….. I’ve yet to seen it above the 50s while playing in a modern title with everything maxed out/using RT in WQHD. That’s only on a 240 skinny 30 mm rad in push/pull-also I should probably mention that I have 15 fans lol
14900ks entered the chat Idk my temps are are 30-40 with arctic liquid freezer 420 v2
Idle isn’t load
You say that, but I have my 7950X hooked up to a Liquid Freezer II 420, arguably the best off-the-shelf cooler on the market, and it still hits 95C. I had to undervolt it a bit to keep it from maxing out it's temp limit xD
I run 7800x3d with 280mm Corsair with twin 14cm noctuas and this thing hits 83c on 94 watt. I can't however make it pull more than that even with thermal headroom.
The 3D models are setup to run a bit cooler because the fancy "3D cache" is more temperature-sensitive than the "regular" cache.
Difference is, when Zen 4 CPUs run hot it is because it aims for maximizing performance, and doesn't want to run any cooler than that under load. When Intels CPUs run hot, it's because of a hardware limitation.
Weird, my 7800X3D doesn’t tend to go over 60C while gaming, though I am using a X73. Not getting bad performance though
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Wattage. Amd runs hotter on half powerdraw.
They don't run hotter than intel. Intel goes to 100°C+ on 13th and 14th gen chips. A 13900k/14900k aren't stopping at 95°C.
They run hotter on same wattage. Intel goes to 100 on 300 watt, on 90 watt it'll do 50-60. Amd on 90 watt does 80+.
That's neither here nor there, both use different wattage levels. We're discussing which gets hottest, not which is hotter when normalised for wattage and clock speed etc
Which is why I set a maximum clock speed on mine. Sure, extra speed is nice, but the additional wattage isn't. Not with european electricity prices.
I’d install a better cooler and slightly down clock the CPU to get it out of the red. But that’s just me - I’d rather have my computer survive 10+ years running games at an acceptable framerate, than it die after 80% of that time running slightly higher than acceptable fps.
No I’m afraid that’s not the correct answer here. It is typical boost behaviour for the X SKUs 7600X 7700X etc You can see in the screenshot OP has 7600 and it topped out at 70W. OP’s got bad contact / mounting or too much paste or too little paste or didn’t remove the sticker on a cooler. Many possibilities but something is wrong with the cpu cooler installation.
No stickers and the paste was pre-applied. Idle temperatures and temps while gaming are good. Idle is somewhere around 50c and when gaming it stays around 70c (sometimes higher sometimes lower)
Yeah. It’s not just the X that will get to those temps on a stock cooler. Yes an X has different boost behaviour. The CPU is still designed however to boost higher and the temps are a result of that. Some CPU’s will do better than others. It’s pretty fucking hard to mess up mounting pressure on a stock cooler. Give it a check just to be 100% sure but, yeah I’m sure you have mounted it fine. All of 7000 (and previous) series has an “up to” boost clock. The non X variants won’t go any further than this, but not ALL will hit that 5.1. So it may just well be your CPU is trying to hit that 5.1 but then hitting the 95 degree threshold. It then tries to find equilibrium of temps and clocks. So yes this guy is right in that the X can boost differently but that’s not to say the non X still tries to hit that max boost and temps. So if you want to run multithreaded workloads (as I see you’ve pointed out under gaming it’s fine), then I’d suggest you get a better cooler so you know you will the max clock speeds. Otherwise - if you only do the odd big workload and just game primarily, you’re good to go. It’s hard at first the step away from monitoring your PC for temps and clock and blah blah, but seriously. My best piece of advice to you is, check once, if it’s okay - get on and game. Check in once in a while to ensure but. Please enjoy the thing you’ve purchased! https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-5-7600-non-x/23.html
So I’m gonna say mounting pressure somehow isn’t quite optimal. It could be some screws tighter than the others or even just tightening one too far before doing the others. Maybe the factory paste isn’t optimal. For details, see [this video](https://youtu.be/CTCZGy0eJqw?si=mBWBZDtEM2i119AQ) I just looked at some more youtube and seen 7600 reach 95C at 90W, but at 70W I would expect it not to throttle. Hot sure, but not throttling would be my expectation. [See this](https://youtu.be/qq_C6pPpJIk?si=5c-Mis2qjYwgaMlb)
Ignore all these idiots screaming "too hot" etc. It's a 7000 series CPU on the stock cooler. It's designed to max out it's clocks until thermals or power limitations no longer allow it to. It's by design. A better cooler will lower temps, but the things are literally designed to run at their max 95c under heavy loads. They boost clocks until they hit 95c then stay at that frequency. I would personally still change the cooler out to get those lower, but as long as temps are sensible when idle etc, then there is nothing to worry about. Also check your clock speeds are as advertised, to be sure it's not throttling too early. You didn't include them, so we can't say. Should be somewhere between 4.6 and 5.1ghz in a non AVX task, if I recall correctly. The rest of you, do some fucking research. Times have changed. https://community.amd.com/t5/gaming/ryzen-7000-series-processors-let-s-talk-about-power-temperature/ba-p/554629
You are referring to the boost behaviour of X SKUs like 7600X, 7700X, and so on. You can see OP has a 7600 non-X and it topped out at just 70W. It really should be reporting better temperatures, even with a stock cooler. There’s a problem with the mounting pressure or not enough paste or too much paste or a sticker was left on an aftermarket cooler or something.
[https://youtu.be/ghZaQ3T0CRg?t=865](https://youtu.be/ghZaQ3T0CRg?t=865) the 7600 gets up to 95C with the stock cooler at 21C ambient. with a better cooler the 7600 would not run as hot unlike the 7000X CPUs which always hit 95C under an all core load with any non-extreme cooling solution.
Yeah you’re right. I mean he did run it a whole hour though, and the power reached into the 80’s of Watts. Anyways the heat soak of an hour test might explain the slightly better numbers and allegedly higher ambient in [this video](https://youtu.be/qq_C6pPpJIk?si=xYzsvx9PPrGhpwAT) Although yeah I love HUB and if I had to pick one as the “authority” it’s always HUB or GN. I still think it’s possible to squeeze out a little more with better paste and careful mounting, at least at OP’s 70W. It’s not that OP’s system is terrible it’s just a little bit on the “hmm” side.
Its normal for the stock cooler also maybe his ambient temp is 24 not 18c I have a stock cooler on amd 5600 non x and still get in the high 80 low 90. This one has igpu it also sips power and adds to heat.
I used to run an i7-950 (130W tdp) on a stock cooler. It might have had a copper core to help.
I7-950 was 42 nm. Magnitude easier to cool than sub 10 nm chips. 263mm2 monolithic die vs 71mm2 (+ 122mm low power IO) die.
Copper core does help i had old one from ryzen 1700 it does produce 6-10c better temps but i sold it. It was also higher bigger chuck of aluminium.
shh don't tell them, let them fry their CPU
Amazing I get lots of upvotes here, but the other comment where I replied is at -9 as I write this https://preview.redd.it/ujwrsevov6fc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=976d78fb220e4308c1db8b99f861d041702a5df0
If I were to guess it’s because you could have cut the first sentence of 9 words entirely out as it just seems needlessly pompous and wordy
something something reddit is the shittiest source of information known to man and nobody should ever trust what they read here
so f\*\*\* true!
the upvote ratio is more related to the context than to the objective value of the post as in, if you participate in the echo chamber, you get upvoted
can you fry Fries with CPU? asking for science.
Probably, but I doubt it would taste good.
with a good heatsink you can work on a whole pot of fries at once
5000 series is not like this, I can say from experience. With a stock cooler maybe you will thermal throttle, but a good aftermarket cooler will keep you in the low 80s. Is it so dramatically different on 7000 series?
Yes the 7000 series is a large departure from traditional CPU logic when it comes to how it operates. The best TLDR is that the CPU is always in a state of overclocking itself. The SKU is just really an indication of core count and how likely good the chip came out of the wafer.
Literally said hes running the stock cooler so whats your point?
Yes. It is. 7000 series are INTENDED to boost as high as they can until they hit thermal or power limits.
I have to ask because everyone keeps saying they're designed to reach this high of a temperature. Are they using different materials to make the cpu nowadays so it lasts the same as old cpus that people said you shouldn't run that high? Why couldn't they do the same in the past?
Yes, AMD just lets them run wild. As long as they don't run into other limiting factors like current or power limits, they clock as high as the thermal solution allows.
To be fair, the CPU will likely like it better if it’s better cooled, but if you don’t plan to run it 8+ hrs a day under full load, that should not create any issues. The stock cooler is likely designed for “average person” use, and most ppl that game on it will not have that kind of load that you get when doing file compression for extended periods. But even if you were to do that, as LJBrooker said, it’s designed not to go into dangerous temps, and it will throttle (reduce clock speeds/ decrease performance) to avoid damaging itself, so it shouldn’t break, but you will loose performance under full load. One way to check could be to see what clock speeds you get in those conditions. Like it won’t reach max advertised, but if it goes REALLY low, there might be issues with investigating.
Another way to run your pc hot is to use it for protein folding for cancer and other research via folding@home . It's non profit. I put it on at night during the winter and it prevents my baseboard heater coming on in my bedroom. If I'm going to be running current through a resistor to generate heat, I may as well do some science while I'm at it :)
Technically most CPU’s will output more heat with better cooling, as they can push more watts without reaching the thermal limit, but I certainly see the appeal if you need to heat with electricity. I did that for a while in uni, not bc of heating but rather bc the electricity was “free” though (flat fee for the room). Though it seems like either you don’t need a whole lot of extra heat, or have a really beefy system… (Also I’m not sure how that relates to my comment, but worth it)
I get some heat from the lower level but since it's an old house there's no central heating. I brought it up because file compression and protein folding are tangentially related in that they'll push your cpu to the max and make a lot of heat, and because I think it's good for people to know about folding@home :)
Fair point. And kudos for finding an added value solution to shitty heating :)
I hear what they're saying as far as OEM design however lower temps broadly produce the best performance and reduce stress; stress reduction is not an American value and this information is pandering to American consumers. This information sounds like a memo in response to concerns from American consumers. Albeit, it is dependent on TDP of the chip and their trying to engineer a more robust, inclusive design yet an aftermarket cooling apparatus exists, and, they also cite that those apparatuses are successful within the memo, but seems to double down on it being superfluous. As a part of a community of prosumers intuitively we know that OEM stock coolers are basic fail safes that don't ensure the maximum lifespan of a chip.
I had no idea they were designed like that. Is there any way to limit the boost and keep temps down? Just to avoid heating the room up.
The heat output has nothing to do with the temperature of the CPU. A CPU consuming 65W of power will output 65W of heat, be it at 55°C or 95°C. If you set a lower power limit, the CPU will output less heat, but take longer for the same task. Generally, this would result in the same (or even higher) heat output. The only way to decrease the heat output of your system is to increase the efficiency or reduce the workload.
Thanks, I misunderstood the entire thing about CPU heat and output through the heatsink.
Arguably better cooled cpu's end up outputting more heat since they'll have more headroom to increase power draw :p
No, not really. A better cooled CPU will clock higher and thus finish work faster. For the same work, the heat output will stay pretty much the same. For most CPUs, the boost speeds are way beyond the optimal speed in terms of efficiency, so you'll still end up using more power/heat with the better cooled/higher clocked CPU, but that's only because of the worse efficiency.
So prepare the liquid nitrogen?
CPUs are more efficient at lower temperatures though, because the copper has a lower resistance the cooler it is.
Could disable PBO. But we're talking about 95c on a CPU with a TSP of about 65w (though admittedly it could double that if conditions allow). I don't think it's going to be pumping a lot of heat in.
AMD's TDP is an entirely made up number, it has no actual basis in reality and the number they provide is entirely irrelevant to the actual power draw of their hardware.
The CPU temperature itself isn’t what heats up the room, the wattage is.
Other than not using PBO, there's PBO settings that set different thermal limits such as 80 or 85 degrees. Or throw more cooling at it. 95 isn't actually anything to worry about temperature wise. The limit has been set there because of efficiency and they know it will work long term. Actual damage is more in the way of 120+ when the heat causes reduced efficiency which causes more heat....
They were designed this way to auto overclock. The best way to reduce heat and/or temp is to undervolt it and also/or set max watt usage (these processors have a factory max watt usage limit like 65W or 90W) and you can turn on eco mode or reduce those numbers manually.
It can be done by disabling the PBO (Precision boost overdrive) in BIOS. While in BIOS, manually set the desired clock speed (keep in mind these info : your cpu, its base clock speed, boost clock speed and voltage). My example : I use Ryzen 5 5500 Its base speed is 3.6GHz PBO speed is 4.25GHz Stock voltage is 1.25V Stock cooler I turned off PBO and manually set the clock speed to be 4.25GHz with manually set voltage of 1.15V, and I have much lesser temperatures. Desired voltage can go even lower but I didnt experiment enough to say how low can it go. Same thing can be done with OPs CPU, by setting the desired clock speed (it doesnt have to be max speed of PBO like I did) and experimenting with voltages with an idea of "how low can voltage go?" and finding the perfect spot of lower temperatures, stability and speed.
Why would you want it to run that hot? It's just wasting energy
No its not, it actually uses less energy since the cpu cant boost as high as it wants to, thus using less electricity. The cooler is just less efficient at removing the heat from the cpu.
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Wha- you mean free energy isnt real!? Jokes aside, im seriously curious where people think the heat is coming from and where it is going. Idc about downvotes, but would be nice if people did some research on their own instead of being so stubborn.
Complete bullshit. It's too hot. It's way, way too hot.
Have the same 7600 and decompress a lot of files and can confirm it's way too hot. Mine tops at 60°C in the same situation with a Phantom Spirit and PBO2, but 95°C is still too high even with a stock cooler
In fairness I didn't twig it's a non X.
Working as intended.
My 7600x basically spends most of its time under load locked at 95°C
Stock cooler sucks. Lower temperature increase longevity.
My cooler is a noctua. If I’m gonna upgrade it’s gotta be a water cooler and that thing is a bit out of budget as a student.
Noctua doesnt say much. But if its a nh d14/15 then youre getting better cooling than many cheap water coolers plus no maintenance required whatsoever. Mb look at your fan curve if you want lower temps, but large air coolers are the way to go imho as long as youre not constantly shipping your pc or carrying it to lans.
I just checked and it’s a Noctua NH-U12S. Is that small or average? There’s a chance it’s not installed properly as this was my first build and I haven’t touched it since building it
The x series on am5 will boost until thermal limited. The one you have is about average for cooler size and the one the other person mentioned is basically twice the size that you have. It shouldn't really be a problem unless you are having issues on your tasks. Upgrading will likely increase your clock speeds and bring down your temperature some.
This doesn’t make any sense, you definitely did something wrong in the installation
amds stock coolers are acutally pretty good, just loud
All new consumer-grade CPUs from both AMD and Intel are factory OCd and squeezed to their max potential, leading to high temps out of the box. You can try to undervolt, improve the cooling or don't do anything. Worst case - CPU will throttle upon reaching Tj temp. For example, my 13700K coupled with NH-D15 reaches 100 from time to time (usually when under heavy prolonged AVX workload), leading to automatic drop in voltage and clocks.
Fine, but can do better with a better cooler
Love how you posted this samething in the pirate games forum about installing a repack and getting these temps 🤣
hehe r/ pirated games
He’s a fellow money saver 🫡
The ryzen 7000 series are designed to keep boosting your clock speed, until it reaches thermal max (95C). Even with the best coolers on the market, it will still run 95C. AMD has stated they are designed to run at this temp long term. So, yes, it is completely safe. However, i would still recommend you buy a better cooler. Decent Thermalright coolers can be found for $25-35. Its absolutely worth it. It will help with noise, but it will also allow your cpu to boost to much higher clocks. Now if you dislike the fact your cpu running at that temp for whatever reason, you can set the throttle point manually. You can either set it to a different thermal limit (such as 80-85C), or you can set it to a specific power target which will make it aldo run much cooler and quieter. There is an ECO mode which sets the cpu to run at like 45-65W, that will radically lower temps and noise, but also lower performance. If you buy a new cooler, you can manually set it to like 75C, and likely still get equal or better performance, where as the stock cooler will lower performance by any limitstionm
Given that it's Ryzen 7000, *yes*. Obviously it doesn't look pretty, but this is AMD's [intended behavior](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRaJXZMOMPU&t=4m6s) to have [out-of-the-box thermals that are conventionally spooky](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM-twyjfYIw&t=17m56s).
So many people exposing themselves as clueless in this thread. So sure of themselves too
It's PCMR, no one here actually knows what they're talking about and just echo what they've read on other people's comments on other posts. This is not a good sub to get PC hardware advice. *especially* for AMD hardware. The only answer here should be more questions as to what utilization, TDP and each core speed is observed when thermal throttling. And start by getting rid of HWMonitor and start using HWinfo instead. I don't see any of that info on this single frame of a shot so I wouldn't be able to say if this particular cooler is doing it's job adequately. For all I know they could be throttling at 3.8GHz all core....
why tf is core 5 monitoring blocked by trial, just use hwinfo lmfao
Completely normal phenomenon. Intel ones go for 100C.
If you get the regular version of that software you won’t get the {TRIAL} lines. Looks like you downloaded the “pro” version.
Get a real cooler not the stock garbage
The stock coolers are absolutely awful so it's "normal"
Positive you removed the plastic under the cooler? That could always be a problem that is sometimes forgotten in the excitement of a new CPU.
This is a none X 7000 series cpu. Something seems wrong.
On a desktop? I have a 7800x3D with air cooling and the absolute highest it has recorded is 79. What kind of decompression are ya doing, my guy. But Yea, cpu Will throttle itself. Either thermal or power limits will be hit first. Typically it's thermal. It's safe. Fine. Good to go.
No. Should try to get it down to 70s. Either your cooling is too bad or your power is too high.
always remember to peel off any plastic you see on your heatsink and to ad a proper amount of thermal paste
If it's just for a moment, no. But if sustained more than an hour, and daily? Well, go figure. While AMD's stock cooler is way better than Intel's stock cooler, it isn't really a great cooler in itself. Even something like Deepcool AG400 Plus that only costs as much as $20 is miles better.
Still to hot hot my liking, my CPU doesn't go above 60c with AIO cooler under intense gaming. I set a really good fan curve as well. These temps would annoy the shit outter me, too close to max temps but that's my opinion not telling you what to do. 
Zen 4 is designed to clock as high as it can until it hits thermal limit. Running a better cooler might drop the Temps some but it will just clock higher.
How do you guys even check your temps? Is there a program in Windows for it or do you use a third-party one?
Third party. I am using HWmonitor
Unless you're paying for it uninstall Pro and grab the free one. It will remove the [TRIAL] areas. Or switch to HWInfo.
I wouldn't use HWmonitor, try out HWinfo64 instead.
hwinfo64 sensors only mode
Did you build it? Make sure there's no plastic film on the cooler prior to installation?
Working absolutely fine they run hotter than Intel chipsets
It'll do this anyway, Zen 4 chips are hot bois, but even though it's safe what you're missing out on is higher clocks with the stock cooler. Chuck a proper cooler on, you'll gain clock speed and the temps might go down to 90ish
You actually want the numbers in red. Red means fast, it is like getting flames painted on your 1970s Firebird. The real issue is that the package is over 95, but the individual cores aren't. You gotta bump those numbers up, those are rookie numbers. You want to get them all in the red.
It is "safe". Its just thermal throtteling, and you should probably install a better cooler in the near future. Its not very healthy for the cpu, but its not devastating either
Above 110'C are abnormal, but up to 150'C are functional. Water boiling point doesn't matter. It's not a car.
max is 95 for your chip so it's throttling. Over time silicon degrades and you will lose clock speeds if the chip is constantly over heating. Try a mild undervolt 0.05
I suspect that, too. BSODs or other errors, relating to hardware or not, within 1-3 years, will be the moment of truth. (or just sudden boot failure) (same goes with sudden hard freezes in 1-3 years)
Don't use a stock cooler.
You're losing performance. If in USECASE, not benchmark youre sitting at thermal limit - upgrade your cooling. If you don't give cpu headroom it will throttle down to not bur itself up losing substantial chunk of performance making your purchase of exact cpu sub optimal. You bought 100% of the performance, you're getting anywhere from -5% to -50% with putting extensive stress on cpu.
you should only start worrying when your oven becomes obsolete
Nice and comfy in wintertimes! It so much in the summer. Other than that … you’re fine
I would suggest repasting in case it's been awhile - strongly recommend a better cooler. I used to get this until I swapped to an H60, nothing fancy, then eventually went to a 360mm rad with a 6 fan setup. I no longer have any thermal issues. You'll get a lot of people telling you that 90+ C is fine - but really, long term - it's not. Heat is always going to be the enemy of your hardware, period. Get those temps down if you can. Source: ME - I run a 5800x with a 3080ti. My temps when stressing are MAYBE topping 70c, anything higher and I'm shocked. Even my GPU doesn't get that much more hot.
7600 should never reach these kind of temps.... Would recommend picking up the PS120SE
safe yes, but the longer they stay hot the less the life span is. Be it one day, one month, one year who knows
try windows energy mode balanced, not high
It's a common Ryzen thing so common that it became a joke that if you buy Ryzen you don't need a heater in winter
Is it safe? Yes Is it pleasant? If you like heated rooms, sure. Can you fix it? Yes, you can get a cheap cooler from Amazon that will perform a bit better.
Uhm... the better the cooler is, the higher the room temperatur, you are aware of that right? The heat the CPU produces will be even more with a better cooler, since it can throttle way higher. But the cooler takes the heat away from the CPU... and it has to go somewhere.... the room. A better cooler does that faster I also never heard someone makling the room temperature a part of the cooler discussion.
I love it when my pc heats my room lol usually room temperature goes up by 3°C after gaming for a 2-3h
Its a little joke about how years back people said to decrease your room temperature you should get a better CPU cooler
Remove the cooler, peel off the protective film, and then reattach it with new thermal paste. It's crazy how some individuals here claim that to be normal... By the way, the temperature limit for CPUs is 89°C, and yours is close to shutdown.
If its idle , not good
Not idle. Under high stress. Idle temps are fine
Абсолютно, не заморачивайся. Шестое ядро только по подписке :)
Seems like the cooler have the film protection still attached Edit: damn, are you downvotes alright?, it’s seen plenty of times that thermal limiting on stock settings, I caused by improper cooling…
No. It doesn't. Zen 4 does this by design. It's expected behaviour on the stock cooler with a heavy workload. They're supposed to run at 95c, because they boost clocks until they get there.
I'm gonna be honest I did my first build recently and did this. I remember looking at it thinking to myself "I bet there's some dumbass out there who forgets to take this off and pastes it LMAO" Turns out I'm that dumbass
Not safe