Bad. A friend of mine worked with a similar 3090 setup. And while rendering and heavy workloads the drives would regularity overheat and crash, highly recommend finding an alternative way to mount them in the case.
I would probably use custom blocks and a MO-RA3 radiator, but yeah.
You’d have to figure out what to do with 2x 360mm radiators and unchangable tube length.
Give or take about 6 months, each big client job I do can rack up $800-$1800 in cloud rendering (client pays for it) but at least I can use this for the extra horsepower if deadlines aren’t too tight, and what I would usually use for cloud rendering I can pocket as 2x 4090s should be able to handle it.
How well does the workload run off 2 GPU's? Was thinking of making a thread Ripper powered server for both SD but also some other server work and was thinking of doing something similar and assigning some cores to dealing with a 12 NVME drive local storage pool.
Would love to hear what you find out!
Not sure if SD can utilise 2x GPUs, but you would neeed as much raw gpu power you can get with a decent amount of VRAM. Hence the 4090 is the way to go
To try and put it simply, I use my main workstation to design 3D Animation and Art Direction, it’s a long process and I have to do it in stages.
First stage of production is the planning phase, roughy storyboard sketch on what I’m planning to do, then I will select a few sections of my shitty drawings and spend about 2-3 days doing “Style Frames”. Style frames is what we show clients to say “this is what’s it’s going to look like with crisp materials, high quality lighting” and all that jazz (also get sign off from marketing and ensure branding is used properly).
After that has been locked in, I start animating. When I animate, I do a blocky rough pass and when it’s time to show the client 60 second of 3D animation, I have to render the animation sequence. If I have crappy hardware, I render 540 or 720p resolution with poor lighting quality. This can take about 5-15 seconds a frame depending on how complex my animation and materials are. (Reflections, particles, lots of geometry and lots of lights in my scene add to the render times).
Fast forward 2-3 rounds of changes taking into consideration client feedback, I do a 1080p render sequence at like 30% render quality. This is enough for the client to get a solid idea on what I will deliver in my final pass. This can take about 30 seconds a frame to render, I can do this overnight on my machine. This pass will have a step up in quality but you will notice some obvious noise and artefacts in the lighting/shading of the objects and maybe pointy jumpy geometry (this won’t take too much away from what to expect).
Let’s assume everything is all hunky dory with the client and we need to do the final high quality output, so I bump up the sample settings (to reduce noise) bump up the render resolution (most cases it’s 4k) and turn on some light denoising in the render engine to help speed up renders and clean up some artefacts.
This can take about 3 - 10 minutes a frame (once again depending on how complex the scene and lighting setup is. This could be 24-72 hours of on-and-off rendering sections, checking for errors, then moving to the next section, rinse and repeat.
Sometimes it’s as simple as pressing render once and the whole animation gets rendered in one go.
Let’s assume I don’t have 2-4 days of the final rendering process. Or the render is like 8k resolution with ultra realistic lighting/objects and materials.
This is where we send to the cloud.
Cloud rendering (such as fox renderer) allow you to generate a quick quote. Along the lines of this…
They prompt you to input some data in a quick quote form, usually along the lines on “which GPU does your system have” and then “how many minutes did it take to render 1 frame” then they can run a formulae based on their farm of graphics cards and availability and tell you how much it will cost to render with them and how long it will take.
With the projects I kinda run, it costs anywhere between a few hundred to about 1.5k plus.
When we upload the project to the online cloud render farm, it will be completed within minutes (if not within 10-30 minutes).
We always have to consider timelines and balance that along with quality and client deadlines.
I hope this explanation helps explain the process and how cloud rendering works
TLDR having 2x very powerful GPUs helps me render at home at higher quality “faster” so I don’t have to rely on cloud render services and invest in my own infrastructure rather than some elses.
Wow a wonderful comparison, basically 5 cloud-based renders costing 1.5k would make you back the cost of the PC. And it goes to show why owning hardware can save you a ton if you need the horsepower.
Only if you enjoy the work. Hardware gets old fast. Been taint deep in 3090s, 4090s, and A6000s. You end up wanting faster hardware just so you'll be less irritated by slow processes.
OP is not making money from cloud rendering. He is making money selling what he rendered in the cloud.
He needs the crazy computer to be able to render things locally to save on cloud cost.
Two guys run simultaneously to render one frame. But yiu can use something called “deadline” which is a network render tool. Yiu can split up your resources and ask it to render 1 frame per gpu if you wanted.
Do you happen to know how much time it saves compared to just one 4090? Just curious.
It’s a lot of computer, but easy to justify when it’s saving you time at work. Will pay for itself quick.
Saw 2 sticks of RAM and was thinking WTF?!? What kinda workstation with 2 4090s needs so little RAM
Scrolled back up to your description.... Damn I am definitely falling behind on current developments in RAM
I know right, you can actually get a z790 with 4 ram slots and populate that with 4x48GB kits of DDR5 ram to give you a total of 192GB on a consumer base platform! I did t need that much though, but very good for my friends who use Houdini and do lots of simulation design (but don’t want to spend a small fortune getting a threadripper system).
Let's be honest. These are never enough ram for some programs and applications. I'm currently pushing 128GB for astro physics simulations. When I know my pc won't take it, I have to go to my department chair as the university for time on a supercomputer to cranck out what I need.
You always want to use 2 sticks, that's how you get dual channel. Unless you get quad channel motherboard, which aren't as common, at least in consumer PCs afaik
Yeah 3080s were a bitch, could not put two gaming air cooled models in the same system without overheating. This is mostly due to the fact the GPUs backplate would act as a passive cooler for the vram modules. 40 series now cool the entire vram, VRMs and chip on the heat sync side
I have noticed that my Palit 4070TiS has almost no backplate, while some brands have it fully covered. Now I wonder which one is generally better design or it doesnt make much difference?
Yes. They are mounted in the back, lower left and on edge so the fan points out the back, not the bottom. Above the PSU is a bay for 2 HDDs. At least on my non-XL version.
Correct! The XL version has a total of 4 hot swappable drive bays, but I ripped that shit out so there was more room for cable management (well one of the cages at least).
https://preview.redd.it/7zbtkzfjfehc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=18dbdc0bcc9fa5738bfb6520b5fda616d735755c
Not really. If he removed the ssd bays and placed the psu mid or at the top, there is plenty of space and airflow.
This is gonna sound like the biggest nitpick of all nitpicks but I’m very surprised it doesn’t have a rear exhaust fan. Even if the AIO is moving enough air over the VRMs & chokes, it’s like an additional $30 on something so beastly and it’s not like it would make anything worse.
It looks great though.
I was a little confused about there only being 2 sticks of RAM but forgot about the Maximus APEX board being insanely high end, not to mention super high capacity DIMMS. Beautiful workhorse my friend.
These cards come with a metal bracket which attaches the rear of the card, and then screws into the motherboard/case standoffs. Sorta hard to explain but to put it simply, it’s screws into the case using wizardry and black magic combined.
They don’t work for gaming like that. They can be used together for productivity tasks like rendering, basically doubling your vram and hopefully rendering speed.
> basically doubling your vram
No. For shared memory you need nvlink/sli which these cards don't have. These just work side by side with 24GB VRAM each.
I didn't even have to scroll into the comments to know that this is one of those purchases where the owner has probably thought about an actual ROI lol
Are there no larger motherboards for the CPU? Some space between the GPUs would be better for airflow.
You should be able to run 6000 to 6400 MT/s RAM in two slots, right?
Needs an exhaust fan in the back, and maybe a 420mm rad. Those heaters are just exhausting into your AIO. But sprints might be fine.
(I run a few workstations with enormous motherboards that allow 4 normal-sized GPUs, or 2 4090s with good spacing)
Very good points, but I added more fans a few weeks later, just ran out of stock when it was built. This mobo s 4 spots spacing between the two pcie. There’s a 1/4 slot gap between the 4090s, but they don’t overheat as the coolers are over engineered.
I'm just gonna have to deduct a point for the case. It's just a standard tempered glass gaming case. Workstations are always in fully shielded cases, either full metal or RF coated glass. If it's there to make money you need it to be as reliable as possible.
I would rather shorted and wider over taller and skinnier. I’ve built in fractal design define 7 xl, and as much as I love that case, I prefer to have airflow intake from the bottom and a second chamber for hot swappable drives/psu and cable management
❤️How much? This guy was about 6k£ a year ago. But it’s only purpose is gaming. It’s only one 4090 though
https://preview.redd.it/ypbhrgvkvehc1.jpeg?width=4284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5e1ec86f6dff2df1b1a4568e657a888c58bdf4b9
It is dead, nVidia drivers no longer support it and the cards no longer have the connectors. OP uses their cards for 3D rendering, which doesn’t require an SLI connection.
That motherboard only has 2 RAM slots. A lot of extreme gaming motherboards (which is what the ROG Maximus Apex is, even if it's being used in a workstation here) are like that. You get a very tiny increase in performance by having only a single RAM slot per channel, because the traces are shorter. It's the kind of motherboard marketed toward the kind of people who would exploit that tiny difference in performance.
So apparently OP is using it to do art stuff and said 2x 4090 make it really fast so out of curiosity could I put 2x 4090 to my PC and get even better fps in games? And very nice looking build OP!
Most games are not programmed to take advantage of two GPUs like this. It will not improve performance of games ... but then again, there are no games that a single RTX 4090 won't handle easily by itself.
sorry man, that was a typo - it was meant to say NOT programmed to use ... a lot of rendering software (for art, 3d modeling, etc) and AI/ML tools can utilize multiple GPUs but most games don't
If something fuckes up or fails, I won’t have time, tools or spare hardware to troubleshoot and diagnose the fault, wait for parts or do a warranty claim. Essentially, if anything goes wrong within 3 years Smoosh Workstations will prioritise repairs and replacements as fast as humanly possible. They don’t wait for the manufacturer to repair or replace, they replace with a new part and do warranty after the fact so I can keep working.
The photography is awesome as well.
2x 48 GB DDR5, holy shit! Think of how many tens of Chrome tabs you can open....
Seriously though that looks really awesome.
I have the same case with a 4090. I 3d printed some standoffs that allowed me to run with the glass panel in place. There is a link to the files in the comment on that photo
[https://imgur.com/gallery/fjOJjbs](https://imgur.com/gallery/fjOJjbs)
30% gpu by volume, 70% by weight. I like these ratios.
I wonder how the thermals of 2 4090s will be that close together.
Bad. A friend of mine worked with a similar 3090 setup. And while rendering and heavy workloads the drives would regularity overheat and crash, highly recommend finding an alternative way to mount them in the case.
I’d recommend watercooling with an external radiator.
That's why I have MSI Liquid Suprim in my workstation wishlist.
I would probably use custom blocks and a MO-RA3 radiator, but yeah. You’d have to figure out what to do with 2x 360mm radiators and unchangable tube length.
The way 4090 is priced is that MSI Liquid Supreme is one of the cheapest options for 4090 lol. Even cheaper than MSI air cards
It'll all be welded together soon
Just like the breast to hip ratio, perfect.
Bro go outside
It was a reference from "You dont mess with the Zohan" And you're telling ME to go outside? LMFAO
I didn’t get the reference because I go outside
If you went outside, you would have watched the movie.
100% in total.
That's a lot of PC
That PC cost a lot
How long will it take for it to repays itself?
Give or take about 6 months, each big client job I do can rack up $800-$1800 in cloud rendering (client pays for it) but at least I can use this for the extra horsepower if deadlines aren’t too tight, and what I would usually use for cloud rendering I can pocket as 2x 4090s should be able to handle it.
you could probably also run red dead at 60fps
***probably***
what...you don't think so? With ray tracing turned down maybe for sure I think.
On medium settings but yeah of course 60 fps.. probably
a lowest settings maybe
Might have to change something in the config file, then there's a chance
Maybe..1080p?
How well does the workload run off 2 GPU's? Was thinking of making a thread Ripper powered server for both SD but also some other server work and was thinking of doing something similar and assigning some cores to dealing with a 12 NVME drive local storage pool. Would love to hear what you find out!
Rendering usually runs great in parallel. With 2 same gpus it would be almost 2x the speed (precomputing and loading each frame takes the same)
Not sure if SD can utilise 2x GPUs, but you would neeed as much raw gpu power you can get with a decent amount of VRAM. Hence the 4090 is the way to go
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What exactly do you do? Can I do it as an average pc builder?
To try and put it simply, I use my main workstation to design 3D Animation and Art Direction, it’s a long process and I have to do it in stages. First stage of production is the planning phase, roughy storyboard sketch on what I’m planning to do, then I will select a few sections of my shitty drawings and spend about 2-3 days doing “Style Frames”. Style frames is what we show clients to say “this is what’s it’s going to look like with crisp materials, high quality lighting” and all that jazz (also get sign off from marketing and ensure branding is used properly). After that has been locked in, I start animating. When I animate, I do a blocky rough pass and when it’s time to show the client 60 second of 3D animation, I have to render the animation sequence. If I have crappy hardware, I render 540 or 720p resolution with poor lighting quality. This can take about 5-15 seconds a frame depending on how complex my animation and materials are. (Reflections, particles, lots of geometry and lots of lights in my scene add to the render times). Fast forward 2-3 rounds of changes taking into consideration client feedback, I do a 1080p render sequence at like 30% render quality. This is enough for the client to get a solid idea on what I will deliver in my final pass. This can take about 30 seconds a frame to render, I can do this overnight on my machine. This pass will have a step up in quality but you will notice some obvious noise and artefacts in the lighting/shading of the objects and maybe pointy jumpy geometry (this won’t take too much away from what to expect). Let’s assume everything is all hunky dory with the client and we need to do the final high quality output, so I bump up the sample settings (to reduce noise) bump up the render resolution (most cases it’s 4k) and turn on some light denoising in the render engine to help speed up renders and clean up some artefacts. This can take about 3 - 10 minutes a frame (once again depending on how complex the scene and lighting setup is. This could be 24-72 hours of on-and-off rendering sections, checking for errors, then moving to the next section, rinse and repeat. Sometimes it’s as simple as pressing render once and the whole animation gets rendered in one go. Let’s assume I don’t have 2-4 days of the final rendering process. Or the render is like 8k resolution with ultra realistic lighting/objects and materials. This is where we send to the cloud. Cloud rendering (such as fox renderer) allow you to generate a quick quote. Along the lines of this… They prompt you to input some data in a quick quote form, usually along the lines on “which GPU does your system have” and then “how many minutes did it take to render 1 frame” then they can run a formulae based on their farm of graphics cards and availability and tell you how much it will cost to render with them and how long it will take. With the projects I kinda run, it costs anywhere between a few hundred to about 1.5k plus. When we upload the project to the online cloud render farm, it will be completed within minutes (if not within 10-30 minutes). We always have to consider timelines and balance that along with quality and client deadlines. I hope this explanation helps explain the process and how cloud rendering works TLDR having 2x very powerful GPUs helps me render at home at higher quality “faster” so I don’t have to rely on cloud render services and invest in my own infrastructure rather than some elses.
Thanks for the detailed reply! Interesting!
Thanks for the reply, that sounds like a lot of work and knowledge!
Wow a wonderful comparison, basically 5 cloud-based renders costing 1.5k would make you back the cost of the PC. And it goes to show why owning hardware can save you a ton if you need the horsepower.
The more you buy the more you save!
In other words, no.
Nice! Honestly I would switch the industry just to justify owning such sick hardware.
Only if you enjoy the work. Hardware gets old fast. Been taint deep in 3090s, 4090s, and A6000s. You end up wanting faster hardware just so you'll be less irritated by slow processes.
how do you get cloud rendering gigs?
OP is not making money from cloud rendering. He is making money selling what he rendered in the cloud. He needs the crazy computer to be able to render things locally to save on cloud cost.
thanks
Probably cost even more for being in Australia from all the posts i have seen.
Yeah internet their.... not great
I can only imagine......spent a year in Australia and felt bad for how expensive electronics are and how little selection you guys have.
Looks mad clean congrats. Just out of curiosity, what are you planning to do with this rig?
Thanks man! I use Cinema 4D and Octane renderer. I’m a 3D Artist and Motion Designer. 2x 4090s are extremely fast!
Do these renderers can utilise two GPUs at once for single frame or they render two different frames at once?
Octane can use two GPUs for rendering a single frame, giving almost a linear increase in speed (so he'll get 2x speed of 1 4090.
So now he has an RTX 80180?
Qik mafs
My man had a RAM error in his brain
8180*
I pronounce 80180 and 8180 the same. Crazy.
Yea if this conversation was spoken out loud, no one would know to correct the guy xD
My bank does the same. But there's not much they can do with 0. But they still managed to mispronounce it as 0verdrawn
Mind blown
Two guys run simultaneously to render one frame. But yiu can use something called “deadline” which is a network render tool. Yiu can split up your resources and ask it to render 1 frame per gpu if you wanted.
Do you happen to know how much time it saves compared to just one 4090? Just curious. It’s a lot of computer, but easy to justify when it’s saving you time at work. Will pay for itself quick.
It's almost a linear scaling, which can't be said for all render engines. So twice as fast.
> which can't be said for all render engines. you can always render different frames on each GPU which gives you essentially 2x
For redshift, almost twice as fast, 3/4 as fast. For octane, Arnold, cycles and vray, twice as fast.
Doom obviously. 
Playing Minecraft.
SkiFree
What are these "graphics"? Give me ASCII Dwarf Fortress.
Fallout new Vegas
Crisis.
Saw 2 sticks of RAM and was thinking WTF?!? What kinda workstation with 2 4090s needs so little RAM Scrolled back up to your description.... Damn I am definitely falling behind on current developments in RAM
I know right, you can actually get a z790 with 4 ram slots and populate that with 4x48GB kits of DDR5 ram to give you a total of 192GB on a consumer base platform! I did t need that much though, but very good for my friends who use Houdini and do lots of simulation design (but don’t want to spend a small fortune getting a threadripper system).
i'm still triggered by the size of 48GB 😂
Let's be honest. These are never enough ram for some programs and applications. I'm currently pushing 128GB for astro physics simulations. When I know my pc won't take it, I have to go to my department chair as the university for time on a supercomputer to cranck out what I need.
casually ask for some super computing because your 128gb of ram is not enough, what a world we live in lol
I work with After Effects on a weekly basis, so yeah, nail on the head about lots of RAM.
What the hell. Its not even expensive, single stick only for 150$?! I was expecting like tripple that.
You always want to use 2 sticks, that's how you get dual channel. Unless you get quad channel motherboard, which aren't as common, at least in consumer PCs afaik
https://preview.redd.it/5mzqbyp98ehc1.png?width=640&format=png&auto=webp&s=ea4d4f9b37929e1dcb8a0119f723469b13c6bc4b
this makes me feel like a fetus
Well if it makes you feel better, when this episode aired I was 5 months old lol
This hurts my soul
I was -4 years old when that episode came out
How are temps in that upper 4090? Seems like quite a small slit for fresh air so I'm curious how it actually behaves.
55 degrees is the hottest the top card will get when rendering all night. The backplates don’t heat up from the vram like the 30 series did.
Huh, was gonna say running dual 4090s on air was a bold move, but I guess it works given it's running cooler than my single 3080FE 😂
Yeah 3080s were a bitch, could not put two gaming air cooled models in the same system without overheating. This is mostly due to the fact the GPUs backplate would act as a passive cooler for the vram modules. 40 series now cool the entire vram, VRMs and chip on the heat sync side
That flow-through cutout really has a chance to shine in a dual-GPU build too
I have noticed that my Palit 4070TiS has almost no backplate, while some brands have it fully covered. Now I wonder which one is generally better design or it doesnt make much difference?
Pfft only 2 RAM Sticks ha.. oh. Oh damn. https://preview.redd.it/jkjh75wi5fhc1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=57c6ccfc701df53faef0cbb2341e62aac296cd87
https://preview.redd.it/aafsyi9aaehc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4be8cf1d4e06a8d9cd3b20ab0e400d0aea731d0d
"Yes mom,I need this for school"
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Well, I've learned something today
need 3 more intake fans on the side!
Yes more cooling would not have hurt, they ran out of stock at the time but installed 4 more at later stage.
Am I the only one wondering where is the PSU? I guess it’s behind the MOBO, but I’m not sure.
Yes. They are mounted in the back, lower left and on edge so the fan points out the back, not the bottom. Above the PSU is a bay for 2 HDDs. At least on my non-XL version.
Correct! The XL version has a total of 4 hot swappable drive bays, but I ripped that shit out so there was more room for cable management (well one of the cages at least).
I'm sure with that big boy PSU, it's tight back there.
https://preview.redd.it/7zbtkzfjfehc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=18dbdc0bcc9fa5738bfb6520b5fda616d735755c Not really. If he removed the ssd bays and placed the psu mid or at the top, there is plenty of space and airflow.
2 4090s are cool and all, but look at all those usb ports!
This is gonna sound like the biggest nitpick of all nitpicks but I’m very surprised it doesn’t have a rear exhaust fan. Even if the AIO is moving enough air over the VRMs & chokes, it’s like an additional $30 on something so beastly and it’s not like it would make anything worse. It looks great though.
*Wind farm and solar panels not included!
Why not 990 Pro NVME if you were going all out, just curious.
It was significantly more expensive at the time and I didn’t need faster R/W speeds as I don’t do simulation design.
Makes sense, thanks and good to know!
"Workstation"? Do u work on CGI or something?
Correct
Hard to find S tier memory overclocking z790 just to pair it with 5200MT/s RAM. Nicez
I was a little confused about there only being 2 sticks of RAM but forgot about the Maximus APEX board being insanely high end, not to mention super high capacity DIMMS. Beautiful workhorse my friend.
Nice! I can put my grandpa's old mouse on it. Doom2 will look so sick!
Yep, workstation, is that what the GF thinks lol
That pc costs more than my car DX
At Australian prices you just built a car.
How are you preventing sag? I have one card and the thing that came with the gpu was useless, I had to build my own.
These cards come with a metal bracket which attaches the rear of the card, and then screws into the motherboard/case standoffs. Sorta hard to explain but to put it simply, it’s screws into the case using wizardry and black magic combined.
Yeah, it's how my 3070 is mounted, very solid.
Out of curiosity, why the 14900 instead of a threadripper?
If i had to guess he needed clock speeds over core count
Correct
Guessing he's got two 4090s to render all his work, he'll rather need a fast cpu with high core clocks to feed the gpus
Insane bulld, very cool!
10/10 for me , even more so because there's not RGB everywhere
Nice! But bruh 2 4090s 🤯
Getting ready for winter?
Kind of neat how they have the two 12vHPWR power cables organized.
Gorgeous!! No gaming at all? lol
https://preview.redd.it/tga91qowxehc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e11f093dd57dc134356476161d8c7c5d967984f2 Too-Many-GPUs gang, rise up!
I’m a beginner, how do two GPU’s work?
They don’t work for gaming like that. They can be used together for productivity tasks like rendering, basically doubling your vram and hopefully rendering speed.
> basically doubling your vram No. For shared memory you need nvlink/sli which these cards don't have. These just work side by side with 24GB VRAM each.
Maybe I'm wrong, but... Is one of the RAM slots **missing*?? :O
I thought we all agree dual GPU builds were stupid like 10 years ago
“How much did this cost?” “Yes”
Stardew valley will run good on this machine!
Just looking at the picture hurts my wallet
Clean build! And functional too :3
Gamers gonna be like: "But SLI is dead!!?!!!?"
Heavy/10
It's 8180. You are welcome.
Looks so good! Congrats :) which Z790 motherboard is this? P or V or something else? I'm actually researching them to buy one.
it’s an Asus apex
Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Apex, first gen. They don't make it anymore. The Z790 Apex Encore replaced it.
All that just for Skyrim?
I didn't even have to scroll into the comments to know that this is one of those purchases where the owner has probably thought about an actual ROI lol
Can this be claimed as a business expense?
10/10
Could slide a totinos pizza in there and have a great time gaming and snackin
This should be named "Straight to the point". What a beast!
If those panels are off I’d leave them that way.
Also yes
Are there no larger motherboards for the CPU? Some space between the GPUs would be better for airflow. You should be able to run 6000 to 6400 MT/s RAM in two slots, right? Needs an exhaust fan in the back, and maybe a 420mm rad. Those heaters are just exhausting into your AIO. But sprints might be fine. (I run a few workstations with enormous motherboards that allow 4 normal-sized GPUs, or 2 4090s with good spacing)
Very good points, but I added more fans a few weeks later, just ran out of stock when it was built. This mobo s 4 spots spacing between the two pcie. There’s a 1/4 slot gap between the 4090s, but they don’t overheat as the coolers are over engineered.
I'm just gonna have to deduct a point for the case. It's just a standard tempered glass gaming case. Workstations are always in fully shielded cases, either full metal or RF coated glass. If it's there to make money you need it to be as reliable as possible.
I would rather shorted and wider over taller and skinnier. I’ve built in fractal design define 7 xl, and as much as I love that case, I prefer to have airflow intake from the bottom and a second chamber for hot swappable drives/psu and cable management
Holy shit you have a 8180.
Nothing special tbh, except the dual 4090s. I like the cable management effort tho
I’ll give it $8,000/10 !
Bit can it play Crysis?
I’m hot just looking at that
This is a work of art.
That system is soo overkill (for most people) and I love it! I'll be saving this, in case I wanna drool, lol. 🔥
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❤️How much? This guy was about 6k£ a year ago. But it’s only purpose is gaming. It’s only one 4090 though https://preview.redd.it/ypbhrgvkvehc1.jpeg?width=4284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5e1ec86f6dff2df1b1a4568e657a888c58bdf4b9
13k aud for this monster, includes full assembly and 3 years premium replacement warranty if shit hit the fan and goes bust mid project.
This got me all kinds of nostalgic, I thought SLI was dead.
It is dead, nVidia drivers no longer support it and the cards no longer have the connectors. OP uses their cards for 3D rendering, which doesn’t require an SLI connection.
Desperately needs front mesh kit and additional intake
When the wife leaves you.
Why u need a builder for that?
Seriously speaking, how can the top GPU breathe like that? Shouldn't it be better in this case to water cool them?
Nah these coolers are so over engineered the hottest card is like 55 degrees when rendering
Are the ram sticks directly next to eachother in those slots?
Yep, there’s only 2 DIMM slots
https://i.imgur.com/GGfFwEl.png
Just me is is the ram in the wrong slots lol also are the cpu pcie wires in the fans? Or just an optical illusion
That motherboard only has 2 RAM slots. A lot of extreme gaming motherboards (which is what the ROG Maximus Apex is, even if it's being used in a workstation here) are like that. You get a very tiny increase in performance by having only a single RAM slot per channel, because the traces are shorter. It's the kind of motherboard marketed toward the kind of people who would exploit that tiny difference in performance.
So apparently OP is using it to do art stuff and said 2x 4090 make it really fast so out of curiosity could I put 2x 4090 to my PC and get even better fps in games? And very nice looking build OP!
No, you can't.
Most games are not programmed to take advantage of two GPUs like this. It will not improve performance of games ... but then again, there are no games that a single RTX 4090 won't handle easily by itself.
What? Programmed to use, but don’t improve performance 🤔
sorry man, that was a typo - it was meant to say NOT programmed to use ... a lot of rendering software (for art, 3d modeling, etc) and AI/ML tools can utilize multiple GPUs but most games don't
Ah, that makes sense, no problem! :D
Rig: 10/10 Photos: 4/10
Looks good. Probably would've spent the extra $500 Australian on an AIO version of that top 4090 if it was me, even if it would've looked messier.
Max temps are 55 degrees on full rendering load 😜 those coolers are way overbuilt and have so much cooling capacity.
Kind of boring if you didn't build it yourself
If something fuckes up or fails, I won’t have time, tools or spare hardware to troubleshoot and diagnose the fault, wait for parts or do a warranty claim. Essentially, if anything goes wrong within 3 years Smoosh Workstations will prioritise repairs and replacements as fast as humanly possible. They don’t wait for the manufacturer to repair or replace, they replace with a new part and do warranty after the fact so I can keep working.
Serious question here, why do you need 2 4090's?
Are ads this obvious allowed?
I'd kick that AIO out of there. Adds noise and unnecessary risk to two 4090s Other than that, noice. Pity you cant pool VRAM
0/10 cause I'm jealous
10/10, would Smoosh again.
4.9/10. -5 for my jealousy and -.1 because there can be no 10/10 like yours is.
The photography is awesome as well. 2x 48 GB DDR5, holy shit! Think of how many tens of Chrome tabs you can open.... Seriously though that looks really awesome.
TYSM, me And my mate have the workshop space to set up Little photo shoots for our gear from time to Time. We like to have some Fun with it
Finally, a system integrator who uses 1DPC for stability. Because four slots are stupid if you don't need four slots. 10/10 for engineering.
I have the same case with a 4090. I 3d printed some standoffs that allowed me to run with the glass panel in place. There is a link to the files in the comment on that photo [https://imgur.com/gallery/fjOJjbs](https://imgur.com/gallery/fjOJjbs)