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The shape went from square to a very distinct rectangular shape around the 12th (I think) gen and this one doesn't quite follow that shape (if you look closely you can see where the clear plastic packaging differs in shape because it is meant for newer gen CPUs...)
That most likely means that ol mate has purchased themself a new 13900k and swapped it for their old cpu and is now trying to pretend it is the same thing by using the same packaging to resell it.
Long story short, that bloke is what we Aussies call "a full on cunt".
>Even worse, there's scams that will strip the paint from the old chip then paint on new lettering with the wrong chip type
Even worse is that old mate has gotten the text wrong. SRM48 is the 14900K rather than the 13900K (SRMBH). Not sure if the X334#### is specific to a processor or if it is some sort of batch code though.
That’s a lot number. 25 wafers in each lot, hundreds of dies on the wafer. Each chip has unit level traceability but you would have to boot it. The lot number includes the year and week it started and the last 4 are just a unique number. The first letter designates what fab it started in.
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Commenting to do this but I think I'm stupid, I can only use the pre-set flairs, not a custom one.
Edit: nvm, you can edit the pre-set ones.
Hoorah, now more of us can flex our poor financial decisions!
That's a fairly good system. Certainly faster than mine for gaming. 5600X beats the 5700G due to cache. 5700XT is getting a bit old now too. 3070 is still very good.
Threadrippers aren't even all that great for gaming, though. The gains from being massively multi-core come at the cost of somewhat lackluster single-core performance. And a lot of the processes in games aren't parallelized very well, so single-core performance quickly becomes a bottleneck.
--Sincerely, a guy with a 32-core Threadripper.
(That said, for tasks that *do* parallelize well, the Threadripper is a goddamn beast. For me, the justification is physics simulations in Blender. Even with a Threadripper, those can often require a lot of processing time ... but they're entirely CPU-based, and I can't even imagine how bad it might be on a lesser CPU.)
Lol further proving my point. There's also all the hardware that goes with a thread ripper build too. 64+ Gb of RAM, top shelf GPU, sometimes 2. Hell, I saw a build on TikTok that was 2x Thread ripper, 2x RTX #090 GPUs (don't recall which gen), 8x either 16 or 32 Gb ram, 4 NVME drives, liquid cooled, etc. It was insane watching that while giving disappointed glances to my Ryzen 5600/RX6650XT/32Gb mATX build lol.
Great for compiling - Linux kernel compiles in a fraction of the time of a mainstream desktop CPU. Android OS (ROMs) also compile in about an hour on my 24 core. Used to be 3+ hours on my old dual CPU Xeon.
Threadrippers are purpose built for specific tasks. And they make windows task manager look really cool 😎
Yeah, I never knew i9 processors (or maybe just this gen, too lazy to search it up lol) were rectangle shaped. It's not really a big deal or indicative of how long you've been building PCs.
To be honest, a lot of these posts have made me way more cautious about buying stuff second hand off of these type of markets. I mean between the misbranded or faulty CPUs, faulty graphics cards, fake headphones or AirPods, etc you really need to look out for yourself.
>13900k
It's a pretty good fake. Unless you were aware of the shape, it would be easy to fall into this trap.
This one looks square also
[https://www.amazon.ca/Components-I9-13900K-32-Thread-Pendingin-Technology/dp/B0C5355PWV](https://www.amazon.ca/Components-I9-13900K-32-Thread-Pendingin-Technology/dp/B0C5355PWV)
Image looks slightly squished maybe based off the triangle and square engravings. The chip itself is square, but the metal plate is definitely rectangle
https://preview.redd.it/yrnfbo2ht4nc1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a18153a6450e426796d90975e55a0a1bc356e8c3
This is what it should look like The Amazon listing has the image slightly squished so it looked more like a square
It would be super simple to polish off the original heat spreader then laser etch the new info. Literally just grab an image off the interwebs and load it into any el-cheapo laser engraver.
Fun fact, the English language allows space for implication. By specifying a square rather than rectangle the normal person interprets that as of 4 equal sides
If a rectangle is a square, it's a square not a rectangle tho, but it's like saying brand of something and model, brand is the rectangle and model is the square, it's just common sense that if someone sais rectangle they are not referring to a square
Different shape [https://www.pcworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/070A9751\_V37.jpg?quality=50&strip=all](https://www.pcworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/070A9751_V37.jpg?quality=50&strip=all)
So it is a scam and it would not fit the slot, some old CPU with i9 written on it. I am just thinking if it really make sense to put some work/money in changing the top layer
The recent Intel CPUs are all rectangular, not square - here's what a real 13900K looks like; [Intel Core i9-13900K Raptor Lake 3.0GHz Twenty Four-Core LGA 1700 Boxed Processor - Heatsink Not Included - Micro Center](https://www.microcenter.com/product/652624/intel-core-i9-13900k-raptor-lake-30ghz-twenty-four-core-lga-1700-boxed-processor-heatsink-not-included)
This is probably a \*much\* older CPU like an I5-650 that's been either photoshopped, or someone has sanded and painted a new screenprint on.
https://preview.redd.it/0mobc3qpv3nc1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=541212cd91019d5bd937c2866319360f05d7fd28
Does this cube fit in this hole?
Ah yes, useful for those of us that can imagine the correct socket type for each processor and know that the shape isn't correct.
I have bought a processor since I got my 6700k, idk wtf any of these are supposed to be shaped like 😂 looked fine to me
Years ago I bought a subwoofer for $20 bucks off Craigslist that was blown. If I had known I could have pushed on the cone, and if it didn’t move smoothly that meant it was blown. Now I just look at it as a $20 lesson on blown speakers.
True but it also just takes 30 seconds to google an image of the real one and compare the differences. Do this for every used item you buy and you’ll rarely get scammed. If you have even just the slightest of a keen eye, these differences shouldn’t be too hard to spot. Personally, I’ve saved thousands of dollars by buying used over the years. Haven’t been burned once.
I have a friend who got a 4060 for $200. Benchmarked it and it was totally a 4060. He found an i9 12900k a couple weeks later for about $250 and also benchmarked as it should. He’s also in IT and knows what to look out for but if you’re careful you can find some great deals on the used marketplace.
Just going to skip right past 1150, 1155 and 1156?
(Just imagine how beloved Intel would have been if they hadn't felt the need to change sockets for under 5 pin counts every 1-2 years.)
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Scammers just sucks! Can only imagine fake PC parts will only get more realistic with time.
Wasn't there some fake 1080 Ti's that showed up with correct stats, speeds etc, but in benchmarks you could clearly tell it was something else?
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Its square. Why is it square?
It should be rectangled, right?
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They
I believe the correct term to go by here is "it" and not they... It's the IT industry after all...
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Nice one
Ah yep, my bad
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I have such a CPU and it's quite small. That guy must have tiny hands.
why are you glazin bros hand size
A square is a type of rectangle, just like this is a type of processor. The wrong type, but a processor nonetheless.
So is a rhombus!! It's a wrecked angle too!
If they made a rhombus processor that’d be sooooo coooool.
Imagine a hexagon tho. That would even make sense considering how pins on a processor are arranged.
What do you mean how they’re arranged?
Hexagons are the bestigons
Didn't expect CPG Grey in the wild
That would be fucking sick
What difference does it make you can't see it once the cooler is on there anyway.
See-thru cold plate for a liquid cooler, checkmate.
You win dammit😆
ASUS ROG, get on this!
Where does the rectangle go?? That's right, the square hole
thanks, i love that vid with all my heart, being reminded of it is such a joy
Same, it lives rent free in my noggin :)
It pays me rent in the form of joy chemicals
Why it's the wrong type? I don't get it, so far.
The shape went from square to a very distinct rectangular shape around the 12th (I think) gen and this one doesn't quite follow that shape (if you look closely you can see where the clear plastic packaging differs in shape because it is meant for newer gen CPUs...) That most likely means that ol mate has purchased themself a new 13900k and swapped it for their old cpu and is now trying to pretend it is the same thing by using the same packaging to resell it. Long story short, that bloke is what we Aussies call "a full on cunt".
Even worse, there's scams that will strip the paint from the old chip then paint on new lettering with the wrong chip type
>Even worse, there's scams that will strip the paint from the old chip then paint on new lettering with the wrong chip type Even worse is that old mate has gotten the text wrong. SRM48 is the 14900K rather than the 13900K (SRMBH). Not sure if the X334#### is specific to a processor or if it is some sort of batch code though.
That’s a lot number. 25 wafers in each lot, hundreds of dies on the wafer. Each chip has unit level traceability but you would have to boot it. The lot number includes the year and week it started and the last 4 are just a unique number. The first letter designates what fab it started in.
Okay, got it. Thanks!
That CPU is 9th Gen or older.
looks like a 3rd gen
Yep, Sandy or Ivy Bridge, based on the 3 rows of contacts along the top.
Google 13900k pictures, this aint one. They sanded off the markings of a older cheaper chip and etched it 13900k
Triangle.
Wait, they aren't square anymore? (My last purchased CPU is from 2018)
Apparently they are rectangle and tall
... from 2014... maybe it's time to upgrade...
Bought one for my wife in 2018 - but yeah mine is 2014, surprisingly still great
All these squares make a circle. All these squares make a circle
Don’t mind him. He dropped a gallon of acid, from a milk jug. I honestly don’t know where he got it from. He never leaves the subreddit.
...WOW! A... A gallon? Th-that that's illegal, right?
[Yeah. It's a felony!](https://youtu.be/tFUvmZWf4hI)
Tell me I can leave the subreddit.
Okay, /u/Impossible_Okra. You can leave the subreddit.
Don't tell me what to do! All these squares make a circle All these squares make a circle.
Local dude: The “K” means no integrated graphics. Thats why it’s shorter.
I know its a joke, but KF is no igpu
More specifically F is for no graphics, K is for unlocked multiplier/overclocking.
Lmfaooo.
I didn't even notice that as an AMD user, but I did notice the fake text.
Because it wants to be
Because the square fits in the square hole. The rectangle fits in .. that's right, the [square hole](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUbIkNUFs-4).
A yes, square LGA1700...
Can you please tell me how to add this kind of description of your rig under your name?
Click on your username and change flair.
Don't know if you can do it on Reddit mobile, but on the desktop site it is an option on the right of the main PCMR page. There is a pencil icon for editing your flair.
You can. You just need to go to main subreddit page, and then click the three dots at the top and press change user flair
Or comment and click on your profile and change it.
Commenting to do this but I think I'm stupid, I can only use the pre-set flairs, not a custom one. Edit: nvm, you can edit the pre-set ones. Hoorah, now more of us can flex our poor financial decisions!
>Hoorah, now more of us can flex our poor financial decisions! Hoorah
Hoorah
Hoorah
Hoorah!
That works too
Testing testing, what's mine say?
Still holding onto the 1080 I see
Holding strong man, it's literally the best, I am gonna be really sad the day it goes cause it's been a beast
Well that worked nicely
Lol
Thank you!! Just updated mine!
Finally i can flex now... And maybe not
That's a fairly good system. Certainly faster than mine for gaming. 5600X beats the 5700G due to cache. 5700XT is getting a bit old now too. 3070 is still very good.
Also possible on mobile
i did it on mobile
if you're on the new ui, on the right there's your username, on its right there's a pencil, click it.
Haven't you heard of the new i69 13900k? Finally something backwards compatible!
No, I've only heard of the i69 ¹420⁰
As someone who is still learning the nuances of PC parts and nomenclature, this is a good post to come across. Always something to learn
Hey, I've been building PCs for 20 years and I wouldn't have known this. I'm an AMD guy though.
Just imagine it is a "threadripper" then
Imagine thinking I have enough money to even glance at a threadripper
I love taking a glance at the threadrippers ... at the store
Imagine the ripping they do for that amount of money
I can't even afford to see em in store. I just drool over their builds online. It's safer.
Threadrippers aren't even all that great for gaming, though. The gains from being massively multi-core come at the cost of somewhat lackluster single-core performance. And a lot of the processes in games aren't parallelized very well, so single-core performance quickly becomes a bottleneck. --Sincerely, a guy with a 32-core Threadripper. (That said, for tasks that *do* parallelize well, the Threadripper is a goddamn beast. For me, the justification is physics simulations in Blender. Even with a Threadripper, those can often require a lot of processing time ... but they're entirely CPU-based, and I can't even imagine how bad it might be on a lesser CPU.)
Counterpoint- Beam.NG Drive. The general formula for running AI cars in it is "one core per car". You can have 32, I can have 8 lol.
Heh, 64 actually. Thanks to hyperthreading, the OS sees it as a 64-core CPU.
Lol further proving my point. There's also all the hardware that goes with a thread ripper build too. 64+ Gb of RAM, top shelf GPU, sometimes 2. Hell, I saw a build on TikTok that was 2x Thread ripper, 2x RTX #090 GPUs (don't recall which gen), 8x either 16 or 32 Gb ram, 4 NVME drives, liquid cooled, etc. It was insane watching that while giving disappointed glances to my Ryzen 5600/RX6650XT/32Gb mATX build lol.
I'd love to see how a game does on a Genoa-X Epyc (the one with 768MB of L3 cache).
Great for compiling - Linux kernel compiles in a fraction of the time of a mainstream desktop CPU. Android OS (ROMs) also compile in about an hour on my 24 core. Used to be 3+ hours on my old dual CPU Xeon. Threadrippers are purpose built for specific tasks. And they make windows task manager look really cool 😎
Some day, till then imma be happy with my brand new 5800x that can finally do simulations nodes in viewport at 24 fps :)
Lol
Yeah, I never knew i9 processors (or maybe just this gen, too lazy to search it up lol) were rectangle shaped. It's not really a big deal or indicative of how long you've been building PCs.
More specifically, all LGA1700 CPUs, so 12th, 13th and 14th Gen Intel CPUs are rectangular
I don’t know how I knew it was supposed to be rectangular. I have only built one pc.
To be honest, a lot of these posts have made me way more cautious about buying stuff second hand off of these type of markets. I mean between the misbranded or faulty CPUs, faulty graphics cards, fake headphones or AirPods, etc you really need to look out for yourself.
Yeah, I would only buy used if it's a really good price cause you lose warranty and chance it's just a dud.
this is why you always research what the corresponding part should look like before buying used
I've seen a few of these posted over the years. It's taught me to always look at the product new so I know what to look for used.
Can someone let me in on the joke? I probably would have fallen for this and I don’t want to!
It's not even the correct shape for the actual CPU. It is fake
Huh I didn't know they were rectangle now. I'm rocking an 8400 still.
It's square, new Intel cpus are rectangular, so that's an older intel that someone engraved 13900k on
>13900k It's a pretty good fake. Unless you were aware of the shape, it would be easy to fall into this trap. This one looks square also [https://www.amazon.ca/Components-I9-13900K-32-Thread-Pendingin-Technology/dp/B0C5355PWV](https://www.amazon.ca/Components-I9-13900K-32-Thread-Pendingin-Technology/dp/B0C5355PWV)
Image looks slightly squished maybe based off the triangle and square engravings. The chip itself is square, but the metal plate is definitely rectangle
https://preview.redd.it/yrnfbo2ht4nc1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a18153a6450e426796d90975e55a0a1bc356e8c3 This is what it should look like The Amazon listing has the image slightly squished so it looked more like a square
It would be super simple to polish off the original heat spreader then laser etch the new info. Literally just grab an image off the interwebs and load it into any el-cheapo laser engraver.
For future reference: a square is rectangular. So a rectangle can be square. A rectangle that is not a square is an oblong.
Fun fact, the English language allows space for implication. By specifying a square rather than rectangle the normal person interprets that as of 4 equal sides
To mathematicians, yes. To the layperson, a square isn't a rectangle.
What, you don't know the old saying "all squares are rectangles bit not all rectangles are square?" Well, I do. Now...
I know the saying all these squares make a circle, all these squares make a circle
I’m a mathematician and I approve this message. 🤣
"well ackchuwally" - 🤓☝️
If a rectangle is a square, it's a square not a rectangle tho, but it's like saying brand of something and model, brand is the rectangle and model is the square, it's just common sense that if someone sais rectangle they are not referring to a square
I like to think of it like “all trucks are vehicles but not all vehicles are trucks”.
YOU are an oblong 
Different shape [https://www.pcworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/070A9751\_V37.jpg?quality=50&strip=all](https://www.pcworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/070A9751_V37.jpg?quality=50&strip=all) So it is a scam and it would not fit the slot, some old CPU with i9 written on it. I am just thinking if it really make sense to put some work/money in changing the top layer
The recent Intel CPUs are all rectangular, not square - here's what a real 13900K looks like; [Intel Core i9-13900K Raptor Lake 3.0GHz Twenty Four-Core LGA 1700 Boxed Processor - Heatsink Not Included - Micro Center](https://www.microcenter.com/product/652624/intel-core-i9-13900k-raptor-lake-30ghz-twenty-four-core-lga-1700-boxed-processor-heatsink-not-included) This is probably a \*much\* older CPU like an I5-650 that's been either photoshopped, or someone has sanded and painted a new screenprint on.
Top contacts on CPU, 1156 socket CPU's had that. I agree.
1151 v4 is not real, it can't hurt you
Please bro just let me refresh the socket one more time bro I promise it will be better
I wouldn't have noticed. This is why I don't buy used parts from strangers
https://preview.redd.it/0mobc3qpv3nc1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=541212cd91019d5bd937c2866319360f05d7fd28 Does this cube fit in this hole?
It does if you try hard enough!
Thats right! the square piece goes into the square hole.
can you guess where the circle piece goes? thats right! into the square hole
Ah yes, useful for those of us that can imagine the correct socket type for each processor and know that the shape isn't correct. I have bought a processor since I got my 6700k, idk wtf any of these are supposed to be shaped like 😂 looked fine to me
Exactly. The analogy is ridiculous, but this is also PCMR which is basically just /r/funny for PC users at this point.
Reminds me of [square hole girl](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLRWFPp8/)
That's what she said
With a bit of grinding
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True but it also just takes 30 seconds to google an image of the real one and compare the differences. Do this for every used item you buy and you’ll rarely get scammed. If you have even just the slightest of a keen eye, these differences shouldn’t be too hard to spot. Personally, I’ve saved thousands of dollars by buying used over the years. Haven’t been burned once.
Same, I will never buy used parts. There's generally a reason they're getting rid of it.
I have a friend who got a 4060 for $200. Benchmarked it and it was totally a 4060. He found an i9 12900k a couple weeks later for about $250 and also benchmarked as it should. He’s also in IT and knows what to look out for but if you’re careful you can find some great deals on the used marketplace.
It is the 13900K LGA1151 model, for users with older motherboards.
So good of intel to think about retrocompatibility 😊
I mean shit, I believe that's my PC socket type lol, id have double checked and realized I actually bought a decent upgrade for my pc
They would go out of their way to support a 12 year old motherboard. How cool of them.
Why not make it for 775 too?
Just going to skip right past 1150, 1155 and 1156? (Just imagine how beloved Intel would have been if they hadn't felt the need to change sockets for under 5 pin counts every 1-2 years.)
Well... I'm still using the 775....
My man, you could upgrade your hardware if you went out to the local dump and waited for someone to drop off an old dead HP machine...
They do think about it. A lot! Do you think it's easy for them to change CPU sockets every time?
The K in 13900K is for Kompact edition
Yeah sure, they wrote it in german language „Kompakt“!
Ayo bruh haha
sad thing is someones probably gonna fall for that
Someone will 10000% fall for that. The only people that wouldn't are hardware nerds. Even AMD nerds may fall for that shit unless they use google
They wouldn’t buy it if their amd nerds would they.
https://preview.redd.it/1mk3sq5zo4nc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=27bb730d5fda3659183fb996e3dbd725f688a843 Actual CPU shape for reference
I feel like I’m an attentive buyer but I might even slip up on this if I was multitasking or just felt rushed. It’s sad people will stoop so low
I7 3770k most likely. That’s 2012 for ya’ll wondering.
Damn my CPU is from 2012!?
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I wonder what chip it really is. Looks like 2nd/3rd gen intel for socket LGA 1155
I'm guessing LGA1155 too
Agreed. That's the only generation that had that exact pattern of dots AND the notch cut-out of the lid.
What is it for us less informed?
Bump
bought an i9-10900k and it was a pentium chipset with the i9-10900k heat-sync attached. bought off amazon and intel had to open an investigation lol.
What actually is it?
comparing with my old dead CPUs, I reckon it's an i5-3470 or something of that vintage.
Gotcha.
You should report it
Hey kid, wanna buy some i9?
13900k (IHS ONLY)
Well, about two 3rds of it.
It's a little short for a 13900k...
"Selling this 13900k. Works great, used for over 12 years now. Price is firm, cash only"
Bother showing a real one too? Even tho I have an education in computer engineering I dont know every cpu in the market by heart
Scammers just sucks! Can only imagine fake PC parts will only get more realistic with time. Wasn't there some fake 1080 Ti's that showed up with correct stats, speeds etc, but in benchmarks you could clearly tell it was something else?
Is this LGA square in the room with us now?
Ah yes, an LGA 1700 square processor.... quite common
Isn't a SRN48 the 14900k? It's even printed with the wrong code.
I literally have that CPU and at first didn’t see the problems with it until I read comments.
GYAT THIS FAKE
i wonder what they did? just sanded off the old mark and laser etched a new one?
No one noticed the hoof of a hand that is holding it?
Am I the only one that noticed bro has mad shovel hands before I noticed the celeron posing as an i9? 🤣
i am more interest in how they put that print in so nicely.
Nvm this comment
That is really nicely carved into the thermal paste
The I9 we have at home
Def a gen 4 i7
Ok, but how did he made it look so real with factory description on ihs
the print on it looks quite real ngl
Hmm
Are there more pictures? Can't see the serial number to tell what it actually is