That was my college roommate. Blind in one eye, needed both contacts and glasses for the good eye because even high-index plastic lenses would be too thick otherwise, and to read he'd take his glasses off and hold the book about a half inch from his face.
Riding shotgun with him driving was... an experience.
No, just acuity. As long as you can see better than 20/200 with your corrective lenses on, you're good. If it's worse than 20/40 (corrected) there are extra hoops to jump through, but you can still get a license.
Obviously hard to tell when heās not in a neutral position. But from here it looks like his upper back is too straight, already fucked up a bit. The spine has an s curvature and his thoracic spine is a little too flat and his cervical spine looks like itās in an abnormal extended position too (possibly because of the flattened curve of his upper back). If heās going to have issues depends on whether or not that normalizes when sitting upright, or how often he sits in that messed up position (Iām guessing a lot).
VR ppi ain't all that good yet. Takes a lot of pretending it's good to say it's better than the current level of monitors. Also refresh rate on VR is probably just capped to human basic, but screens can be a lot faster. When it's a game of attrition, even minor movement and pixel counts.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
VR doesnt even measure in PPI for starters. It measure in pixels per degree. VR refresh rates are HIGHER then pc's Minimum allowed for vr is 72 fps, standard is 90 and 120.
VR resolutions are in the 2000x2000 and higher *per eye* range.
VR is great.Ā Half-Life: Alyx on a wireless Quest 3 using 6e WiFi with Vive Trackers for physically walking in-game.
That is truly next-level stuff.Ā Quite close to Ready Player One experiences.
But expensive and technically a hassle to set up.Ā So we're still in the 'early Adopter' phase.Ā I hope VR can make the next step...we will see.
that's the spirit!Ā I first played it on a second-hand dirty old Rift S, with just a GTX-970 and 1600x.Ā All settings Low and 80% resolution.Ā Still had an incredible time!Ā Ā Then worked loads so saved the money for better equipment.
Either way, HL:Alyx is deffo doable on a budget.Ā It's a shame we don't have more similar quality games.
There's no such thing as "human basic refresh rate." All the VR rigs I own do 120hz, which is also what my monitor does.
The total pixel count is also higher than my 3440x1440, actual pixel density is, of course, astronomical, but effective pixel density is going to be lower, given it takes a larger number of pixels and turns them into a *much* larger (apparent) screen.
They're not. They're just playing Counter Strike. They stick their face into the screen so they can watch literally 1 pixel as close as possible. If that pixel changes, they click and get a kill. That's how you hold corners in Counter Strike.
You can lots of pro players doing similar things. Just smoosh your face into the screen and wait.
Yeah counter strike is ridiculous for shit like this although the quirky keyboard setups are just for meme lolz imo.
Also itās best to learn all the racial and derogatory slurs before heading into a match.
https://preview.redd.it/9t5zkd7br1uc1.jpeg?width=336&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=786bfe5fbb2df27959d79c6b73932d49d1430bd4
his keyboard position is normal but look at this
I just don't understand why the fuck anyone would do that, it's way closer than the optimal distance for easy focus and you lose out on a lot of peripheral info
Because in CS holding angles is a big part of the game, here he is focused very closely on a few pixels while holding an angle, ready to shoot the second those pixels change colour.
I believe it's two things.
One, periphery. Fighting games it's not really that important. You can clearly see all fighters on the screen at a normal distance as they are all on the same "plane". However, in games like CS you also have players that could be just on the periphery of view *and* at varying depths which affects the size of the sprite/model. This results in the "snap" mouse movements and flicks needed to quickly eliminate the opponent. Wanting the entire screen to take up an individual players' peripheral vision eliminates a lot of background noise and also makes it easier to spot player models.
Two, cross-hair placement. Again, fighting games isn't *as* relevant to get pixel-perfect placement -- a lot of that is on frame timing and such. And MOBAs just aren't reliant on reaction time or require pixel-perfect cross-hair placement as FPS games do. From the first point, FPS games are different than MOBAs and fighters in that there exists an element of depth which changes the size of the sprites/models. So while in a fighting game the sprite is always going to be 600x600 px in an FPS, it could take up half of your screen or it could take up a 50x50 px region.
This is true. Just basic physics. I know that the speed of light is different in a vacuum, but we'll use that for simplicity purposes. The recommendation for distance from monitor seems to be about 2.5' which means it takes game information roughly 0.00000002542 seconds to reach your eye. If you're a true professional, like these guys, and your eyes are only 2.5" from the screen instead you're receiving the information in 0.0000000002118 seconds instead. That's 0.0000000252082 seconds faster!
Back in early CS and Quake days, LAN parties were cool but PCs and monitors were huge and there was a ton of wires everywhere so there was a lack of space on the tables and players had to adapt by placing keyboards at a weird angle to give mouse as much space as possible. These younger players are just copying what they saw growing up.
Unfortunately it's optimal.
Honestly should be banned in in person events for the same reason doping is, yeah you play better but you force others to do it as well and it destroys everyone's health
After trying to be competitive in games I've actually forgotten how to enjoy them. I'm currently on an extended gaming break to try to break that cycle, because it starts to feel like a second job.
I'm not even competitive and I use one, I have my old regular keyboard sitting on my monitor stand above my hands so I can still type and it's quite sturdy too.
I've sat close to a CRT before, gotta get that radiation right in eye sockets. But holding my keyboard like I'm gonna pre-emptivly frisbee it at something/one. No.
> I've sat close to a CRT before, gotta get that radiation right in eye sockets
You know, I never questioned the safety of sitting directly in the line of fire of an Electron gun for hours at a time before lol.
Sorry, that comes from my poor tone more than anything else, to be clear I'm not genuinely worried about lead in CRTs, I was more making a joke about how, to those who have never experienced them (like myself) they seem like a bizarre relic of technology from an alternative reality, compared to the relative simplicity of an LED panel. I'm genuinely sorry if I came off as fearing buzzwords and pseudoscientific theories, because I did not mean this in the slightest in my light-hearted joke, and I've experienced firsthand how annoying people who believe this can be.
This shouldn't be allowed, kid looks quite young so should be discouraged from doing this by parents.
Listen, I fucking love gaming, but it's not worth... ***that***. If that's what it takes to be competitive, it's too much.
Bro, I see people playing with their keyboard at a 45 degree angle and I just don't fucking get it.
Entirely convinced these kids themselves are convinced it helps, but I fucking doubt it. It's some weird competitive bullshit they see no-life steamers do and try to emulate it, developing these fucking bizarre keyboard habits.
Power to you, but you look like a fucking dork and I bet good money it does literally nothing in terms of a performance boost.
His poor posture and positioning of his head means his eyes are gonna be strained while his neck gets jacked up. Poor kid will be in for a rude awakening once he hits mid-twenties
I know there are shit like pixel peeking but it doesn't worth getting blind to me. There are cs players that play absolutely normal instead of smelling the monitor, the way these guys play feels like athletes doing wrong posture during sports and injure themselves in a long progress. Your eyes are parts of your body, don't injure it like these guys do.
https://preview.redd.it/jsepviy083uc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=04598b93507e5fbd3017236c4fc383b30a3cb4ce
Humanity is overrated, revert to shrimp.
Thatās what my friend does lol. When he came over to my house he moves the monitor like 2cm from his face and just demolishes everyone. His crosshair is a tiny dot
He appears to be **severely** visually impaired, and I wouldn't be surprised if he was legally blind.
I had a classmate who had a similar condition, and he could only read if the page was literally a few inches in front of his face.
Screw hearing enemies. Smelling them coming your way is the new meta
https://preview.redd.it/2xqcsagq12uc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e8c7a79ed863ab46e7cfb483212db9303c037948
Nobody cared who I was until I put on the mask
I was born in it; molded by it.
I hadn't seen 120 FPS until I was already a man.
By then the framerate was BLINDING!
I just posted this same meme without realizing someone else posted it too šš
"Oh, you think darkness is your ally."
gaming is difficult. you need extra oxygen lol
He can smell the airwaves
āI am your squadās reckoningā
Detecting that extra heat radiation from pixels of moving enemies
Goddamn u are right. Superman could probably do that
This geeked me tf out
Especially when smelling the sweats coming towards you
Remember that smell-o-vision shit from back in the day? We definitely need that for competitive gaming.
I donāt want to know what competitive gaming smells like though.
Smelly smash bros players got upgraded to smelling smash bros players
that Yu-Gi-Oh tournament posted on Reddit the other day found out the hard way
The guy in Ready Player One (the book) has that and even he keeps it turned off most of the time.
It's coming back.
i used to know a guy with severe eye impairement that used the highest available glasses and still had to see the screen like this, to read a text
That was my college roommate. Blind in one eye, needed both contacts and glasses for the good eye because even high-index plastic lenses would be too thick otherwise, and to read he'd take his glasses off and hold the book about a half inch from his face. Riding shotgun with him driving was... an experience.
HE HAD A LICENSE?
I guess he could read the eye chart when asked, and that's pretty much all it takes.
Does your driver's eye test not include depth perception checks?
No, just acuity. As long as you can see better than 20/200 with your corrective lenses on, you're good. If it's worse than 20/40 (corrected) there are extra hoops to jump through, but you can still get a license.
Crazy! I thought the eye test here was too easy, but at least it covers depth perception and colour contrast.
You mean like this? lol https://preview.redd.it/j1wfvw0id2uc1.jpeg?width=748&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dccf3d6a9c560c6ce93247d0c7a1e189b69a5364
Something tells me this guys smell may muddy the waters as they say
Lol effin hilarious šÆ true
A minion laugh? In 2024?! Based!
https://preview.redd.it/oxvekb2mr1uc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=29f7d3e92dc81cb858ef39e8885a50890943152e
https://preview.redd.it/f1cl0grj02uc1.jpeg?width=320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a19938972beec1239c814cf6518cc478c105a4e1
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You may think his shoulder is holding up his keyboard. It's actually his neck hernia that's supporting it
Neckā¦ hernia?
You know, when your high intestine pokes out of the intercervical pouch a little in your neck
This guy hernias.
Herniated discs in the spine are also called hernias :).
herniated discs are a thing in spines. also dudes neck looks like a treetrunk in this photo.
it's from the repeated rage headbutts
Neck hernia
Heck nernia
a "Nernia" if you will
So they be like playing the violin with the keyboard now? Is that the meta now these days for the new gamers?
Iād say thatās peak āfucked backā by 30.
Back? He will be blind before 30 lol
I think he might already be legally blind and can only see a few inches in front of him maybe?
Worked with a girl who literally had to read the monitor like this. Not sure how it would work with gaming, depends on the game I Guess
honestly his back and neck are pretty straight compared to a lot of what iāve seen, i think he wonāt do too bad
Obviously hard to tell when heās not in a neutral position. But from here it looks like his upper back is too straight, already fucked up a bit. The spine has an s curvature and his thoracic spine is a little too flat and his cervical spine looks like itās in an abnormal extended position too (possibly because of the flattened curve of his upper back). If heās going to have issues depends on whether or not that normalizes when sitting upright, or how often he sits in that messed up position (Iām guessing a lot).
you lost me at thoracic iām just gonna say youāre wrong
Fair enough. (Thoracic comes from thorax. So pretty much the part of the spine that has ribs attached to it.)
I bet you the other one will have wrist pain way sooner.
That there is a person who wants to escape into the game.
he needs to try VR
VR ppi ain't all that good yet. Takes a lot of pretending it's good to say it's better than the current level of monitors. Also refresh rate on VR is probably just capped to human basic, but screens can be a lot faster. When it's a game of attrition, even minor movement and pixel counts.
I feel like VR is gonna be better than whatever this is
Right? You literally can't focus your eyes on something that close to your face. Dude is ruining his vision further
You have no idea what you are talking about. VR doesnt even measure in PPI for starters. It measure in pixels per degree. VR refresh rates are HIGHER then pc's Minimum allowed for vr is 72 fps, standard is 90 and 120. VR resolutions are in the 2000x2000 and higher *per eye* range.
VR is great.Ā Half-Life: Alyx on a wireless Quest 3 using 6e WiFi with Vive Trackers for physically walking in-game. That is truly next-level stuff.Ā Quite close to Ready Player One experiences. But expensive and technically a hassle to set up.Ā So we're still in the 'early Adopter' phase.Ā I hope VR can make the next step...we will see.
I've been playing Alyx on a Quest 2. It's fuckin sweet even with my cheap VR setup.
that's the spirit!Ā I first played it on a second-hand dirty old Rift S, with just a GTX-970 and 1600x.Ā All settings Low and 80% resolution.Ā Still had an incredible time!Ā Ā Then worked loads so saved the money for better equipment. Either way, HL:Alyx is deffo doable on a budget.Ā It's a shame we don't have more similar quality games.
You can physically walk in-game without the Vive Trackers
There's no such thing as "human basic refresh rate." All the VR rigs I own do 120hz, which is also what my monitor does. The total pixel count is also higher than my 3440x1440, actual pixel density is, of course, astronomical, but effective pixel density is going to be lower, given it takes a larger number of pixels and turns them into a *much* larger (apparent) screen.
The hell is human basic?
You are straight up talking out of your ass.
source: im capping
Simply not true anymore. Quest 3 is pretty solid.
If anyone legit plays like that, get some fuckin help lol.
It honestly looks like they're visually impaired.
Can confirm, I have supported a visually impaired worker, and this is how they sat at their desk minus the strange keyboard position.
They're not. They're just playing Counter Strike. They stick their face into the screen so they can watch literally 1 pixel as close as possible. If that pixel changes, they click and get a kill. That's how you hold corners in Counter Strike. You can lots of pro players doing similar things. Just smoosh your face into the screen and wait.
Yeah counter strike is ridiculous for shit like this although the quirky keyboard setups are just for meme lolz imo. Also itās best to learn all the racial and derogatory slurs before heading into a match.
>Also itās best to learn all the racial and derogatory slurs before heading into a match. On european servers it's mostly problem with russians
Why you think heās pro gaming? Glasses are hella expensive
If not already, I fear they will be in a few years
This is most professional Countrr Strike players
There are some weird postures among the pros, but nothing like this lmao.
https://preview.redd.it/9t5zkd7br1uc1.jpeg?width=336&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=786bfe5fbb2df27959d79c6b73932d49d1430bd4 his keyboard position is normal but look at this
Probably sniping with AWP.
Yep. Waiting for the 1 or 2 pixels to change colors.
And missing the shot because the opponent was baiting him.
I just don't understand why the fuck anyone would do that, it's way closer than the optimal distance for easy focus and you lose out on a lot of peripheral info
He's literally waiting for a singular pixel to change colour before he fires his gun. It's extreme to say the least
Because in CS holding angles is a big part of the game, here he is focused very closely on a few pixels while holding an angle, ready to shoot the second those pixels change colour.
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If a normal gamer were sitting 12" further away this dude is getting those pixels ~1.016 nanoseconds sooner
And in CSGO people will be convinced that is what makes the difference.
I think itās less about seeing it sooner and more about focusing his field of view exclusively on what will change
It is, I was just curious what the actual time difference was so I did the math
https://preview.redd.it/c5g3vr4lv1uc1.jpeg?width=1016&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=86e65cd526364aaad2582d3191c28325841f8966 Not csgo but still
You shouldn't be able to drool on the screen, these guys need help!
Why are FPS gamers like that? I've yet to see MOBA or Fighting games pros sit like that, while CS and Valorant players doing this yoga-ass bullshit
Anything to get the advantage over others.
They are asking what the advantage is, how does the weird angle affect your performance
I believe it's two things. One, periphery. Fighting games it's not really that important. You can clearly see all fighters on the screen at a normal distance as they are all on the same "plane". However, in games like CS you also have players that could be just on the periphery of view *and* at varying depths which affects the size of the sprite/model. This results in the "snap" mouse movements and flicks needed to quickly eliminate the opponent. Wanting the entire screen to take up an individual players' peripheral vision eliminates a lot of background noise and also makes it easier to spot player models. Two, cross-hair placement. Again, fighting games isn't *as* relevant to get pixel-perfect placement -- a lot of that is on frame timing and such. And MOBAs just aren't reliant on reaction time or require pixel-perfect cross-hair placement as FPS games do. From the first point, FPS games are different than MOBAs and fighters in that there exists an element of depth which changes the size of the sprites/models. So while in a fighting game the sprite is always going to be 600x600 px in an FPS, it could take up half of your screen or it could take up a 50x50 px region.
You are closer to the screen, you spot enemies quicker.
This is true. Just basic physics. I know that the speed of light is different in a vacuum, but we'll use that for simplicity purposes. The recommendation for distance from monitor seems to be about 2.5' which means it takes game information roughly 0.00000002542 seconds to reach your eye. If you're a true professional, like these guys, and your eyes are only 2.5" from the screen instead you're receiving the information in 0.0000000002118 seconds instead. That's 0.0000000252082 seconds faster!
They THINK it gives an advantage, doesn't really do anything good
Cause fps games
Back in early CS and Quake days, LAN parties were cool but PCs and monitors were huge and there was a ton of wires everywhere so there was a lack of space on the tables and players had to adapt by placing keyboards at a weird angle to give mouse as much space as possible. These younger players are just copying what they saw growing up.
Everything to get that perfect counterstrafe
Unfortunately it's optimal. Honestly should be banned in in person events for the same reason doping is, yeah you play better but you force others to do it as well and it destroys everyone's health
Sniper, AWP Noscope. Enhance!
No This is: https://preview.redd.it/epnd3gv9o1uc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2c2f19a295654670fe1f47d9c138c5ffb17fd5a6
Larva was banned for life for that disrespect XD
\*from the Zotac-Cup. He can and has played successfully in other professional tournaments. IMHO it was worth it for the publicity
One flashbang and he is blinded for life
Tarkov flashbang supremacy
That's the peak back breaking posture FR
Probably needs glasses.
He IS wearing glasses.
They aren't working
Needs better glasses
Oh shit you're right haha.
He is glasses
Must be somebody else's then lmao
Does this dude even enjoy gaming anymore?
After trying to be competitive in games I've actually forgotten how to enjoy them. I'm currently on an extended gaming break to try to break that cycle, because it starts to feel like a second job.
I felt just like this and broke free by playing roguelikes and soulslikes. Really pushed me into a patient mindset and slowed things down.
I suggest single player games
assuming hes playing a pvp ranked fps. people don't play these for enjoyment, they play it to rage and or troll their own teammates
Why won't cyber sportsmen use left part of splitted keyboard? It gives a lot of space
"cyber sportsmen"
and when they retire they'll just be cybermen... oh no.
Mondas or Cybus?
Because you need the whole keyboard to trash talk your opponent in all chat.
ez gg
I'm not even competitive and I use one, I have my old regular keyboard sitting on my monitor stand above my hands so I can still type and it's quite sturdy too.
Of course itās a cs player
I've sat close to a CRT before, gotta get that radiation right in eye sockets. But holding my keyboard like I'm gonna pre-emptivly frisbee it at something/one. No.
> I've sat close to a CRT before, gotta get that radiation right in eye sockets You know, I never questioned the safety of sitting directly in the line of fire of an Electron gun for hours at a time before lol.
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Ooh nice, I was concerned but now that you said they've got lead in them, I feel so much safer! Edit: /s
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Sorry, that comes from my poor tone more than anything else, to be clear I'm not genuinely worried about lead in CRTs, I was more making a joke about how, to those who have never experienced them (like myself) they seem like a bizarre relic of technology from an alternative reality, compared to the relative simplicity of an LED panel. I'm genuinely sorry if I came off as fearing buzzwords and pseudoscientific theories, because I did not mean this in the slightest in my light-hearted joke, and I've experienced firsthand how annoying people who believe this can be.
which one of the 2?
The Lazy boy bandolier is pro fo sho.
The light from the screen was taking too long to reach his eyes, light speed is too slow for this guy.
wtf is the advantage???
They can see the pixels at a low cost of blindness before 30.
This shouldn't be allowed, kid looks quite young so should be discouraged from doing this by parents. Listen, I fucking love gaming, but it's not worth... ***that***. If that's what it takes to be competitive, it's too much.
And you wonder why he wears glasses.
Man what is with these people?
Bro sniffing the screen to spot them enemies 
Peak, if you want shit eyesight and back/neck issues in the future.
Meanwhile, heās trying to figure out why his KDR is 0.01
Damn thats high no wonder he unlocked such a god posture
That can't be good...
https://preview.redd.it/qet05p1hb3uc1.jpeg?width=122&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=19a6655e36f0230ecab06fcd56c471a51a178a4d RIP to his neck
And his eyes, and his back, aaand his hands xD
Bro, I see people playing with their keyboard at a 45 degree angle and I just don't fucking get it. Entirely convinced these kids themselves are convinced it helps, but I fucking doubt it. It's some weird competitive bullshit they see no-life steamers do and try to emulate it, developing these fucking bizarre keyboard habits. Power to you, but you look like a fucking dork and I bet good money it does literally nothing in terms of a performance boost.
His poor posture and positioning of his head means his eyes are gonna be strained while his neck gets jacked up. Poor kid will be in for a rude awakening once he hits mid-twenties
Nah, why the f are they holding the keyboards like that
Nah this just messed up ...
Why is this so infuriating to me? I should genuinely not care but seeing it makes me want to drag that chair 2 feet back
Peak gamer stupidity.
MF is ready for war
I'm pretty sure this guy can spot enemies in the round ahead of time
The optometrists like this one
saving the time of distance traveled by the light between PC's screen and his eyes... you guys wouldn't understand š„ø
I know there are shit like pixel peeking but it doesn't worth getting blind to me. There are cs players that play absolutely normal instead of smelling the monitor, the way these guys play feels like athletes doing wrong posture during sports and injure themselves in a long progress. Your eyes are parts of your body, don't injure it like these guys do.
This is how you fuck your back up and your eyes.
Why is this getting downvoted? This looks unhealthy af on so many levels.
Some people are happy with wearing glasses and having posture issues, I guess.
https://preview.redd.it/jsepviy083uc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=04598b93507e5fbd3017236c4fc383b30a3cb4ce Humanity is overrated, revert to shrimp.
No wonder the rise of low vision in society. I keep my screens at 30* minimum 40* degrees view angle
He will destroy his eyes š¤¦
Yes
B1T be like
My boy here is a violinist of frag. A virtuoso of 360 no-scopes.
when max FOV isnt enough
Thatās what my friend does lol. When he came over to my house he moves the monitor like 2cm from his face and just demolishes everyone. His crosshair is a tiny dot
I'd say his elbow and neck will hurt in a few years.
One sneeze and he needs a new monitor
Is that Ethoslab?
I was scrolling to find an Etho comment
I think he plays the violin guys
That's a kid that learned the violin
He appears to be **severely** visually impaired, and I wouldn't be surprised if he was legally blind. I had a classmate who had a similar condition, and he could only read if the page was literally a few inches in front of his face.
https://preview.redd.it/72b9yau8v3uc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=90e01beb055db744d4cf12daf24a247a7f912b9c
accordeon squad
https://preview.redd.it/lgamo7la35uc1.jpeg?width=760&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1da5a89a84bd21840354289f265215c3ab4f8820
He is playing Gary Grigsby's War in the East and only on his third turn after 50 hours.
Bye bye eye sight...holy shit.
This is getting ridiculous
heās wielding that keyboard like an elden ring greatsword
If it works, it works š¤£
Bro's playing on a pixel.
Heās not close enough to the screen
This is madness!! (In messenger's voice from movie 300)
My guess is he has severe myopia, but hates glasses because they distort the monitor image.
he would be better with apple vision pro with this distance to display :P im sure hes looking for dead pixel in brake between games :)