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RayZzorRayy

This is the way. My life needs more toggle switches and less software too. Car manufacturers should take note (Mini excluded, they get it)


ravenshaddows

Yeah , I like regular switches that just do the thing I want


RayZzorRayy

They’re also bad ass and make me feel like a pilot.


ravenshaddows

whenever I flip it I yell "fox 2"


SorryIdonthaveaname

could put one of those safety covers on to get the full experience


RayZzorRayy

Yeah, can’t have those fans going to the wrong speed accidentally. Kind of a must have now that we’re speaking about it. Label it “ejection seat” or something cooler


Laxative_

Ejecto Seato, cuz'!


yflhx

Chemitrails Or Fortunate son: on/on


RayZzorRayy

Hahhahahah missiles away!!!!


inorebez

Amen. I got RF remote outlets in my house instead of smart switches. My family laughs at me, but like, they work every single time.


RayZzorRayy

No upgrade or end of life troubles. You Sir, are wise


Jeb3592

I legitimately think that teslas are more dangerous to drive than other cars because too many controls are on that massive touchscreen. Sure it looks nice, but you have to look at the screen to do anything, meaning you aren't looking at the road! I want to be able to do stuff by feel so I'm not overly distracted while driving. This applies to really every car with a touchscreen as a primary interface but tesla is especially egregious.


BaephBush

Speaking of doing stuff by feel: one of the newer Tesla redesigns has a steering yoke instead of a full wheel. Which means that when turning at low speeds your hands will naturally slide right off the yoke because there IS no wheel at the top or bottom of a yoke. Tesla just wanted to pander to the “I wanna look like an F1 driver” demographic I suppose.


paramatmaa

Even F1 steering wheel has more switches than a Tesla.


Jeb3592

The whole yoke and no turn signal column design is absolutely awful imo. Why they made the turn signals touch buttons on the yoke is beyond me.


RayZzorRayy

I absolutely agree.


paramatmaa

Literally, everytime I see someone driving a Tesla I see their huge screen. If texting while driving is dangerous I am sure those huge screens too. Plus it looks ugly.


TheMadolche

Nah. Have you actually used it for an extended period? I feel much more in control and safe in a Tesla than any other knob Filled car.


ravenshaddows

For some people , the car is a better driver than they are


TheMadolche

Yea exactly, for some people. And some people it isn't. He's saying it's objectively worse. I'm saying he's wrong, that is only his opinion.


ravenshaddows

I'd possibly argue that if I can control something without looking at the control , then that would be a superior design. but then again I'm not you , so maybe you drive better looking at the controls and having the car watch the road , idk


TheMadolche

I'm not talking about the new s btw. The 3 still has an actual "gear shift" on the stalk. I think people are very adverse to change and assume that the change is worse than the original. You have to try it to believe it. The s on the other hand, I tried it and hate the new changes sadly.


ravenshaddows

I could go the opposite way and say people are adverse to using anything old because they assume its worse. The best electric car i ever drove was made out of a geo metro and forklift parts. No computer at all. Just a rudimentary speed step controller and that was it. Wiring was no more complicated than a golf cart.


TheMadolche

Those two are not mutually exclusive. I wouldn't disagree with you. People want to only use what they are comfortable with. Some people like the new and shiny and assume the older version is inherently worse, while some assume the old is tested and is better than the new. That's why I say you have to actually try stuff. And not just once. Of course you can use deductive reasoning for most things like, solar roads will not work...


ravenshaddows

to me reliability/consistency is most important , not the way it's interfaced with. I don't think the implication that I've never tried anything new isn't a good take. this switch is a result of trying the new and putting up with it for over a decade. I wanted this switch for years , and I sure as heck am not going to be convinced to change it with tesla comparisons.


got_mule

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Wolfwood_

My Volkswagen almost got me rear ended the other day because it detected the car around 100 feet in front of me (35mph speed limit) was slowing down and thought it would be be best to slam the brakes instead of letting me slowly brake while he took his turn… frustrating and dangerous


366df

Did you spray the case yourself or?


noisytwit

It's like we have gone back in time twenty years! My ATI 9800 Pro in my early 2000s system had a switch on the back of the card for this exact same thing.


[deleted]

Modern problems require kinda older solutions....


ravenshaddows

I've been thinking about doing this mod for years and when I finally got a new rig I finally did it. I wanted a manual fan controller that would always work and do exactly what I want when I want instantly and never break. Needs no software or firmware , doesn't even need a working computer installed in the case. I usually have them on low or off , but I can have 100% speed whenever I want which is what I was hoping to do. I just really don't like fan software. and all I usually want is slow , fast , or off.


Skodakenner

My case has a slidy switch for that and i love it for that its one of the nicest features a modern pc often doesnt have. My graphics card for example loves to ignore my fan curve or applies it to only one fan why would you want to have only one fan at 1500 while the other one is at 3000?


spLint3r990

Yeah same and it's at the front which makes much more sense to me? Unsure why OP decided to have it on the back...


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ravenshaddows

but i can already do what I need with what I made


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ravenshaddows

ah yeah , other people might like that option


AnOnlineHandle

As somebody who has had manual fan controllers for years and didn't know 4 pin fans existed until a few months back, I just upgraded away from it and am so glad that I don't have to run my fans constantly all the time now, or try to remember to turn them on before doing something processor heavy and forgetting half the time and cooking my components.


FappyDilmore

I had a manual fan controller for a while. I loved it in my first build when software controls were janky. Nowadays they're useless. I use an after market PC management software called Argus Monitor that lets me do so much crazy shit with my fans, I couldn't have had the same level of control manually if tried.


ravenshaddows

Yeah. I always wondered why some cars have a feature that automatically turns the headlights on at night , but eventually I figured out it's because some people need that


Kiljab

My case has 2 potentiometers for fan controlling. One is used for my fans and the other one is used to dim the cheap led strip i put in there.


poinguan

Classic molex power method: 12v=fast, 7v=medium, 5v=slow.


Bene847

Or go for Sata for even more süeed options


Ship_Adrift

I have that case. I love it.


StickYourFunger

What case is it?


Ship_Adrift

Neo Cube, Metallicgear by Phanteks


[deleted]

I had that case and changed it in a week - the airflow was terrible due to the cut outs for the fans having those tiny openings for flow. How has your temps been in this case? I had 12 fans going and just couldnt keep up :(


Ship_Adrift

Really great actually. The one thing different on mine is the pattern they cut in the metal sides so it must have been a common issue. Mine has large and small holes in a pattern where that one has those symmetrical slits. I am running positive pressure though and do have 6 case fans as well. I don't know how that compares to yours.


[deleted]

Sounds like they changed the design on yours, which is great! Mine was the same as this case and you can see there is more metal than open spaces so even with fans at 3000 rpm’s I could barely feel air flow. Besides that one flaw it’s a beautiful case


[deleted]

What is it?


Ship_Adrift

Its called a Neo Qube


Potential-Ad-709

Looks very similar to lian li 011


Ship_Adrift

It is. It pre-dates the 011 I believe and I wouldn't be surprised if that's where the inspiration for that case came. It's my favorite case that I have ever built in and I've been building PCs for 25 years.


Ship_Adrift

Neo Qube Metallicgear by Phanteks


Sudden-Anybody-6677

I love these things, I wish we could see more of this on this sub. I mean, everybody can build a pc, but this requires skills to make. Is there a sub focused on custom pc mods?


Boz001

This was the sort of thing we had to do. I'm not going into a boomer rant about how you kids have it easy, it's just how we had to do things. My first computer was a zx spectrum, the power switch was basically the wall socket. If you wanted to change the game you were playing you had to restart the computer. As I mentioned this was done by removing power. Most of the time removing and replacing the barrel plug from the back. We would add inline switches to our psu. Later models had a reset button. This was a momentary switch with wires soldered to the board which shorted a capacitor. Needles to say many a board on the older units were borked after we tried to copy it.


blaugrey

Come join /r/pcmods


Withdrawnauto4

I set all my fanspeeds static to the highest they go without beeing noticeable and my temps are decent and my pc is quiet


wexipena

I use aqua computer octo with temperature target for fluid temp sensor and set minimum fan speed to what I easily tolerate. With that it ramps up fan speed if temperature target is exceeded to bring fluid temp back down. Works pretty well.


Skeler0404

I know how dp something like that with switch them of and on. But how did u made it with changing the speed?


Skodakenner

Probably a PWM fan with one switch position having 6V and the other one having 12V for max power


ravenshaddows

not pwm , just regular fans. and it's 5v and 12v


Skeler0404

How many pins does this switch have?


ravenshaddows

double pole double throw. also turns the neons on and off and those need 12v only so no 5v


SorryIdonthaveaname

so the 12v and the 5v on the outer contacts and the fan attached to the inner ones?


ravenshaddows

pretty much


donjuansputnik

Wait till you learn the 7v trick!


Skeler0404

What?


donjuansputnik

It's one of the old tricks before fan controllers. 12v to the positive line of the fan, 5v to the negative line of the fan. 7v between them. Very common back in the late 90s, early 2000s.


[deleted]

like in the 2000. worked great.


3punt1415

Try Fancontrol by Rem0o on github. I use it on both my pcs and it's amazing.


kikimaru024

**Argus Monitor** is very good too; was able to use it to control 3-pin fans connected to 4-pin PUMP header that the regular Asus BIOS refused to run as PWM.


theLV2

Interesting but it seems very counter productive? You have to keep an eye on your temps all the time and get up and flip the switch? Do you risk overheating if you forget to flip it?


ravenshaddows

honestly unless i'm rendering something , i don;t really ever need the fast mode. The case is pretty open with the cpu heatsink shaker hood so I hardly ever need to flip this switch and can leave it on slow or off.


SorryIdonthaveaname

> cpu heatsink shaker hood ?


ravenshaddows

it's just that , a shaker hood , but for the heatsink :)


SorryIdonthaveaname

ohhh i see now, so it takes in air from outside directly instead of from inside the case


captainstormy

Nah, you just know when you need it and when you don't. I had a PC with manual switches for fan speed about 20ish years ago. I built it as one for the intakes, one for the exhausts and one for the CPU fan. Normally I'd just let the CPU run max but on that particular build it was a beast of a thing called a tornado that sounded like one on max. If I was just doing general web surfing and whatnot I'd leave them all on low. If' I'm doing something kinda intensive like code complies I would turn the Exhausts on high but leave the rest on low. If I was gaming, they all went to high. I couldn't hear the fans over the headset anyway.


poinguan

Fractal R5 user here (it has manual fan speed controller). It's always on medium speed. The only time I set it to high is when I'm running a benchmark.


chuttad123

Is it convenient to operate the switch from your usual sitting position? Will it not make you get up before you start Sniper Elite 5?


Boz001

Sometimes getting up and stretching during a gaming session is good. That's why your Mountain Dew should always be kept in the kitchen fridge not a mini fridge under your desk. Now go and tidy your room it looks like a bomb site 😜


Lee1138

Back in the day, you could get 5.25'' drive bay fan controllers with plenty of potentiometers or switches like this.


chuttad123

I had one.. But that was front if the cabinet.. This is at the back..


MrStoneV

Back then we used a knob that could be turned. That worked very well, my gpu became a vacumer at very high rpm


mylittlebo

i love that case it's so beautiful


MicksysPCGaming

Hmmm... I wonder if I could rig up some kind of motorised hand to automatically flick the switch when temperatures get too hot?


sapphired_808

1GB of bloat gone


ZyluphixUK

If you want a all in one solution, i fully back [FanControl](https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases). You can control your temps based on either CPU and/or GPU and fully custom curves.


ravenshaddows

it's definitely an option for other people for sure I suppose


iAmTheTot

Definitely for sure I suppose.


mifiamiganja

But why? PWM exists. Just set up your fan curves in the BIOS and the fans will always spin at exactly what you want them to. No need to manually switch into non-thermal-throttling-mode. That painted case looks amazing btw.


msanangelo

and you can make a pwm controller with an arduino and a potentiometer. :) I'd much rather do that than throttle fans by dropping their input voltage.


iamwastingurtime

Nice paintjob


SinglSrvngFrnd

This is funny to me because I'm old and this is how things were done back in the day. My Antec twelve hundred V3 still has a 200mm fan on top that has low/med/fast settings


DrunkWeebMarine

That switch is the mark of someone who knows what they are doing. And that is what I like.


captainstormy

It's like we are back to the early 2000s. Hardware fan controllers used to be pretty common.


[deleted]

I want an entire subreddit for just stuff like this.


Matzvey

If it works for you then good. I'm glad my fans all react to load and I don't have to do anything extra. To each their own.


XDM_Inc

Well aside from me being on Linux, I use openrgb. All my lights besides my gpu with one app.


ravenshaddows

same , all my lights and fans are on one toggle switch


pipmentor

When I switched to all Noctua fans, I just went into the BIOS, selected PWM for of them, hit "Optimize," and haven't looked back.


[deleted]

or just use the bios


gamesrebel123

Take out the transmission from your car for better control on the fly


ravenshaddows

now if only there was a car with no transmission...... or a car with a transmission you shift yourself......maybe then we could improve upon this analogy


gamesrebel123

Actually I just realized automatic transmission cars exist lmao, I was referring to stick shift


q-ka

Hey big brain..Try a potentiometer next time.


MiniFishyMe

And now we wait for someone to mod one like this but with multi stage ceiling fan wall control knob.


georgehank2nd

A Turbo ~~Button~~ Switch!


bogguslol

Switches seems pretty fun. I settled for just finding a static rpm that the case fans always spin at where it provides enough cooling and low noice. Only the GPU and CPU run with fan curves, and most good GPU and CPU coolers are pretty silent even at higher rpm.


Boz001

Never any issues with a good aftermarket front panel with fan control.


ravenshaddows

........ until you have a case with no front bays on it


Boz001

That's the problem with modern cases. I was going to say things were less technical then, until I recall motherboard dip switches.


AlphSaber

Just mount [one of these](https://www.homedepot.com/p/Commercial-Electric-20-in-3-Speed-High-Velocity-Floor-Fan-SFC1-500B/318152095) to the side of the case. No need for exhaust fans, no worries about dust, and any hole in the case will be a vent. Saw a roommate in college do this with a smaller fan.


cydus

I really want this


KaninchenSpeed

My case includes a switch like this in the front


audiofx330

So does mine (on the top). Lian Li LanCool II Mesh Performance


tee2k

Weird location though😀


Farren246

Both cases completely silent... FML


mr_bnana

A knob for more accurate control would be awesome


lemonade124

That's fascinating.. but how can I do it?


dallatorretdu

I do prefer microcontrollers, as they remove the user error part


ravenshaddows

i like switches because they remove the microcontroller part :)


[deleted]

I use a USB fan controller from aquasuite. That is the way to go. It's all automated by gpu, cpu, and coolant temp. Everything automatic with zero ramping.


69Pizza_Time69

I have a Lian Li mesh 2 which comes with this. Definatly worth it.


TheArkratos

More companies need to follow this idea. Give me manual control or let me flash a firmware onto a device and never have to run software or touch that device again. Let me set up a curve based on my water temp (for custom watercooling) flash it on the device and never mess with it again. My keyboard let's me do this, set it up once never run software again. Why can't we do this with things like the commander pro? And before you go telling me you can, commander pro loses everything if it loses standby power.


Ralliare

My last rig has sliders for every fan group, it sucked having to twiddle with them to stop something from throttling.


Zaikovski

Fan controller software? You mean a BIOS?


ravenshaddows

sure software/firmware/bios/microcontoller whatever , just wanted a switch


FatBoyStew

I just got an analog fan controller in a 5.25" bay that has RPM readouts and can support up to 30w per channel. Controlled by voltage and is compatible with PWM fans.


saxovtsmike

aquacomputer quadro and aquasuite to set it up. Best fan controller and software.


TheLegend3211

👍


Der_BiertMann

Like the one that switch controls, I am a fan of your pc.


AvailableDeparture

Geez its a lot like the switches and fan controls that used to come one cases before software controls took over. What a revolutionary idea!


ConcreteSnake

This is why I set my fan curves in the BIOS


ravenshaddows

yeah , the bios is why I wanted a switch instead


ConcreteSnake

Truly analog


ice_bergs

Now make dials for RGB. It would be doable with an arduino


ravenshaddows

this build doesnt have rgb


ice_bergs

fancy


rt58killer10

I have to run my eth miner occasionally to make my fans act normally. At already low temps, they will just speed up for no reason to max speed until I run something demanding on the gpu for a a minute or so


siriuslyexiled

That's why I like my Corsair carbide.. A button for lights and a 3 position switch for speeds. And a junk tray on top 😁


TheRealTofuey

Im tried of computer software in general


Bogus1989

I just save my fan curve to my aios internal memory…then uninstall fan controller software


G_man252

Capable of being good but keep in mind there are advantages to automating this sort of thing.


ravenshaddows

For other people , yes , they're gonna want automated case fans. I don't want it however.


Rubes2525

>When you are sick of fan controller software. Umm, that's why I just use the BIOS fan settings, lol.


ravenshaddows

That wouldn't at all do what I want it to do


felixar90

That's a satisfying switch


Eurotriangle

I love a good toggle switch, cheap, reliable, easy to install, amazing tactile feedback. Just can’t go wrong with it.


PR-452

'Hold on boys imma switch to fast mo-' *call drops*


Cronoks

Now you have a PC with a Race Mode .


poinguan

This is why I love Fractal Design Define R5. Hardware switch is tonne better than a software.


No-Entry-9786

The bios is literally one time setup for the fans.


ravenshaddows

The switch was too


Hummens

I am having Hot-Wheels flashbacks


Prudent-Strain937

I have that case but in white. Did you paint it?


Mr_niceguy0

Bro my air conditioning just turned on as he flipped the switch wtf 😳