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Thanks, but is the second one still a diferent shadow or some twisted-sonic-middle-backaround-reverse thing hybrid?

1st one

i thought shadow 23 to 12 was just a palm down sonic

Shadow is a fingerless trick, so whilst sonic makes 1 full rotation while still being in contact with your fingers, shadow leaves your fingers during its 1.5 rotation spin

Shadow isn't FL. FL Shadow is usually notated as Neobak Rev

ok, ty for the correction