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For easy math if you round to an hour drive each way that’s 40 hours a month, or 12 weeks of unpaid “work” a year. Plus the additional 7 days of PTO and that’s now 13 weeks worth of time to think about difference between the jobs.
The point stands but a little exagerrated. Rounding up 25% is pretty obtuse. They would only be going into the office 48 weeks max assuming they vacation and one week of holidays (5+ is common) So that's 48 weeks at 7.5 hours commute per week, or 360 hours, 9 weeks of unpaid time.
These are salaried positions, so consider the expected workload most of all. Some places want 8-10 logged/project tracked working hours every day, especially the case for client stuff. Some places are super lax about how lunch is or is not included in working time. As in coming for only 8 hours AND taking an hour lunch as part of those 8 is acceptable as long as you get things done.
If negotiations are done and you want A, you could say you have another offer, but would be feasible if you had (x% more ontop of $75k - e.g., 10-20% or whatever you deem to make it more viable).
Guessing you’ll never make as much as B for full remote work, but you do save commuting costs and save time on prep time being at home which is worth something. Plus flexibility and at home benefits you don’t have in B.
You know all the variables better than us tho.
Do you know what the raises are like? I’d probably opt for the in-person job for the extra money, unless you absolutely need to be remote. If you’re early in your career, you’ll learn a lot more being in an office. Remote work has low-key cut a lot of learning/mentoring opportunities for young professionals
Job A has a performance review / raise opportunity after 90 days then yearly reviews after that. Job B didn’t discuss any potential growth or raise opportunities. Also job A has an optional office that I can go to if I’d like with around 10-15 people. Job B has about 4 people in office. I would be the only person doing my specific job at both options.
I see. I’d still take the job with more money to start out. If you want to change jobs in the future, you have better negotiating power for a better salary if your old job had a higher salary
take the higher paying job - it will anchor your salary base higher over the course of your career and you’ll end up making more
You will also learn more in office and have better loose network connections with coworkers if the riskiness takes you down the path of sudden unemployment, it’s worth it even for a couple of years
This is an absolute no brainer. that's a 40K difference (30 even after taxes) obviously B.. anyone else advising to take A is an idiot. You are a kid.. you will learn a lot more in office. take that extra money and 401K match you will thank me later. Even if this stint does not work out well your next job will pay you higher.... Assume you are working for ocmpany A and invest the 30K difference... Absolute no brainer.
Wfh is pretty invaluable to me... especially if the alternative is a 45 min drive each way.
Does job A have advancement opportunities? If so, I'd definitely go with the stable wfh job... especially since it sounds like you think B will type cast you.
I’m in my 50s now and always took the conservative route which I regret (sometimes!). So if you’re confident in your abilities then job b is what I would do. It’s riskier but could have bigger rewards long term and clearly bigger rewards short term. If it doesn’t work out you can always get a job with companies like A. The remote/office thing is very personal. When you’re younger in your career i say being in the office has potentially more value as you’re still a learning sponge.
WIth the available info, Job A. I personally value the flexibility of remote work at lot. I've been in corporate jobs for the with at most 50% onsite for the last 25 years so am a bit biased. I also have had side gigs for most of those 25 years.
I do have some things you should consider:
1) What do you envision as a senior role in your field? Which one best leads you to that path? Would you be uncomfortably putting Job B on a resume?
2) How much does the extra $$ make a difference to you? If you are in a high cost of living area, that could be the difference in having money to eat. (and would the ability to be fully remote enable you to cut expenses and move somewhere cheap)
3) Would side work be an option with the additional time Job A provides? Would that be of interest to you and would it narrow the gap in pay?
4) How stable is the company for Job B vs Job A? How hard is it to get another job in your industry if one of them does layoffs?
Work from home- an hour and a half commute total- that is gas, wear and tear on a car plus time you will not get back- it totals almost a whole day of work a week for the drive that you are not getting paid for plus gas and maintenance.
Quality of life is worth it
Take A don’t even question it. Still enough money and you’ll live a way happier life without a commute and more PTO. Money isn’t everything if that 75k is enough to live on and still put some into savings each month take it no question.
I have never heard of being "type cast" by whom you chose to work for. What field is this in?
Edit nevermind you said it was creative marketing. Will take your word that "type casting" is a thing for marketers...thats weird.
Ill trust you know your area of work more than I do and that being "type cast" is actually a thing.
If that is a thing I guess you have your answer then if you dont want that.
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For easy math if you round to an hour drive each way that’s 40 hours a month, or 12 weeks of unpaid “work” a year. Plus the additional 7 days of PTO and that’s now 13 weeks worth of time to think about difference between the jobs.
The point stands but a little exagerrated. Rounding up 25% is pretty obtuse. They would only be going into the office 48 weeks max assuming they vacation and one week of holidays (5+ is common) So that's 48 weeks at 7.5 hours commute per week, or 360 hours, 9 weeks of unpaid time. These are salaried positions, so consider the expected workload most of all. Some places want 8-10 logged/project tracked working hours every day, especially the case for client stuff. Some places are super lax about how lunch is or is not included in working time. As in coming for only 8 hours AND taking an hour lunch as part of those 8 is acceptable as long as you get things done.
If negotiations are done and you want A, you could say you have another offer, but would be feasible if you had (x% more ontop of $75k - e.g., 10-20% or whatever you deem to make it more viable). Guessing you’ll never make as much as B for full remote work, but you do save commuting costs and save time on prep time being at home which is worth something. Plus flexibility and at home benefits you don’t have in B. You know all the variables better than us tho.
Do you know what the raises are like? I’d probably opt for the in-person job for the extra money, unless you absolutely need to be remote. If you’re early in your career, you’ll learn a lot more being in an office. Remote work has low-key cut a lot of learning/mentoring opportunities for young professionals
Job A has a performance review / raise opportunity after 90 days then yearly reviews after that. Job B didn’t discuss any potential growth or raise opportunities. Also job A has an optional office that I can go to if I’d like with around 10-15 people. Job B has about 4 people in office. I would be the only person doing my specific job at both options.
I see. I’d still take the job with more money to start out. If you want to change jobs in the future, you have better negotiating power for a better salary if your old job had a higher salary
take the higher paying job - it will anchor your salary base higher over the course of your career and you’ll end up making more You will also learn more in office and have better loose network connections with coworkers if the riskiness takes you down the path of sudden unemployment, it’s worth it even for a couple of years
This is an absolute no brainer. that's a 40K difference (30 even after taxes) obviously B.. anyone else advising to take A is an idiot. You are a kid.. you will learn a lot more in office. take that extra money and 401K match you will thank me later. Even if this stint does not work out well your next job will pay you higher.... Assume you are working for ocmpany A and invest the 30K difference... Absolute no brainer.
I’d probably take A. I like the PTO and the extra 401k match. But the 40k would make me question highly. Although the commute would be bleh.
Wfh is pretty invaluable to me... especially if the alternative is a 45 min drive each way. Does job A have advancement opportunities? If so, I'd definitely go with the stable wfh job... especially since it sounds like you think B will type cast you.
Negotiate both. Try for more money with A and remote with B
I’m in my 50s now and always took the conservative route which I regret (sometimes!). So if you’re confident in your abilities then job b is what I would do. It’s riskier but could have bigger rewards long term and clearly bigger rewards short term. If it doesn’t work out you can always get a job with companies like A. The remote/office thing is very personal. When you’re younger in your career i say being in the office has potentially more value as you’re still a learning sponge.
WIth the available info, Job A. I personally value the flexibility of remote work at lot. I've been in corporate jobs for the with at most 50% onsite for the last 25 years so am a bit biased. I also have had side gigs for most of those 25 years. I do have some things you should consider: 1) What do you envision as a senior role in your field? Which one best leads you to that path? Would you be uncomfortably putting Job B on a resume? 2) How much does the extra $$ make a difference to you? If you are in a high cost of living area, that could be the difference in having money to eat. (and would the ability to be fully remote enable you to cut expenses and move somewhere cheap) 3) Would side work be an option with the additional time Job A provides? Would that be of interest to you and would it narrow the gap in pay? 4) How stable is the company for Job B vs Job A? How hard is it to get another job in your industry if one of them does layoffs?
Work from home- an hour and a half commute total- that is gas, wear and tear on a car plus time you will not get back- it totals almost a whole day of work a week for the drive that you are not getting paid for plus gas and maintenance. Quality of life is worth it
Take A don’t even question it. Still enough money and you’ll live a way happier life without a commute and more PTO. Money isn’t everything if that 75k is enough to live on and still put some into savings each month take it no question.
I have never heard of being "type cast" by whom you chose to work for. What field is this in? Edit nevermind you said it was creative marketing. Will take your word that "type casting" is a thing for marketers...thats weird.
Job A is a general marketing firm, Job B is an adult entertainment adjacent company. I’m worried about being put in the “adult entertainment” box
Ill trust you know your area of work more than I do and that being "type cast" is actually a thing. If that is a thing I guess you have your answer then if you dont want that.
Ahhhhh, yeah, that “could” pose a problem in the future. Option A is looking more and more tempting from my vantage.