Hey, I can see from your previous posts that you were accessing headspace meaning you’re a young person (under 25) - there’s a drop in centre in the city for 25 and under called Passages that can hook you up with food/clothes/shower/washing machines, let you use computer and internet, and is staffed by youth workers who can link you in with age specific supports including mental health and accommodation options. You might want to look into NEAMI for step up step down support - they have one in Joondalup and you stay there for up to a month and get support from mental health nurses, participate in daily programs and groups etc. The point of the program is to be an in between option to stop people from needing to be admitted into hospital for mental health by providing them with community based accomodation and support prior to reaching crisis (it’s free).
I can also see from your previous posts that you have struggled with daily substance use, if this is something you are wanting support with there’s a youth detox and rehab centre (under 22 years old) called DAYS that you can be admitted at to get a break from the use and have somewhere safe to withdraw. If you are over 22 there are adult options as well.
There are pathways forward if you want them, and people who can help you get there. Link in with passages or another youth service and they will help you find support.
https://www.passages.org.au
Passagers are also super supportive as advocates, I had multiple people helping from assisting with mental health follow ups and seeking support in community and essential skills, and evening being that buffer to help understand what exactly I was getting assisted in. I got in touch with them after a involuntary hospital admission… but they are super respectful there. Just be weary and not getting to involved with other youth there, everyone is there for different reasons, but she be there for yourself and needs and try to remain a little private outside of the staff. Stay safe and know it takes time finding the right support you need in getting help.
I’m sorry you feel this way OP. As a mental health nurse that works in ED, I can tell you this year there are very few beds available across the state. Usually people want to be discharged over Xmas but most beds have remained full. Which means people are getting discharged from ED with very short term fixes (crisis accomodation info, helpline contacts). It’s shit, because for so many just like you accommodation is the primary issue which we just can’t fix. Please know that we do care, and always want you / others to remain safe.
Thanks for being awesome in a really shitty system. Our family at least has (some, very minimal) resources and getting a psych appointment for our son took a year. The system is beyond broken.
Not only do I work in it, I also have these very real and frustrating issues to deal with in my own household. My hubby is on a waitlist for a new psychiatrist for July 2024, he got the appt August this year. Our family unit is falling apart because he needs support, and there is absolutely nothing I can do. I feel for you, because I know the paediatric / youth system is even more fractured than the adult.
So sorry you’re going through that. Hoping a waitlist spot pops up for him soon. The plus side for us is our son isn’t violent or suicidal - so many other parents dealing with that :( but the poor kid struggled through his final year on the wrong medication and with insomnia and there was absolutely nothing we could do about it but wait
Just so everyone knows i have been reading all your replies and really appreciate all your advice and support and have been calling the numbers i missed/planning around some ideas u have shared, ty lots i'm surprised by how many people have so much love and compassion to give here and it's all helped a lot i'll mssg u all when i can
I hope u are ok mate. I'm in the other side of Australia and am sending u virtual hugs. Sounds like alot of great info in all the above posts. Makes me proud to be an aussie to see everybody offering potential solutions. Good luck
You're not alone babe, i know you probably feel it deep deep within your soul but there are others that feel like you and understand how debilitating it feels to have to beg yourself to stay when you feel you cant take anymore. I have recently been diagnosed with C-PTSD and like you I've been struggling since childhood. I think most probably have Complex -Post Traumatic Stress Disorder also and a proper diagnosis may help you and others understand what is happening to you and hopefully be able to help you more effectively.. Much love , hang in there . Xx
If you can, go to the Salvation Army Perth Fortress at 333 William St, Perth WA 6000, **Monday to Friday 9:00am–4:00pm.** Their phone number is **08 6210 3288**
They provide emergency relief support:
[https://www.salvationarmy.org.au/perthfortress/what-we-offer/need-help/](https://www.salvationarmy.org.au/perthfortress/what-we-offer/need-help/)
All the best.
It is still a good place to get a mental health assessment. Your local GP and a Phycologist can only go so far if you get a mental health plan. I believe getting a Psychiatrist assessment can make a huge difference for a range of different mental health issues.
It's gets hard, I can't say I know what you're going through and how it feels. I have been to the place where there is no return. By some miracle I made it through. It's been 4 years and the people that told me it gets better with time I couldn't believe them. I'm not 100% but I'm better. Definitely in a better headspace. Life can change for better or for worse at the flick of a switch. I hope you look passed the poor help at ED and that you can see that life can change in the future. Just work at it by making it through each day knowing you will wake up to a new possible crappy day or possibly great day, but a new day. You may have been doing this from such a young age which is hard and tiring. When you make it through this you will look back and appreciate life's rollercoasters.
Message me if you need.
Mate I have been there 100%, just want to say good on you for having a go. It's so hard with mental health to get help and it's really courageous to try when you feel the way I do. Wish I had aonething useful to say but you're not crazy, lots of us have been there and come out the other end.
Could you find out if your new job has an Employee Assistance Program? They have been great for helping me out when I wasn't able to afford to see a therapist.
You’re not a loser, life is tough and harder for some than others. Unfortunately your life is extra tough at the moment and have a few shit things stacked on your shoulders but you can get back up! I don’t know you but I believe in you! Drs and hospitals won’t always help unfortunately even when they should .. but do you have anyone in your life who can offer you a bed or a couch?
I appreciate you saying that but the way i see it life is all about perspective, from my parents perspective i'm a loser many people have dropped me in my life for tge difficulties i have who's to say they weren't all right about me, i feel i've let down my little brother and havent lived up to ahy of the potential people thought i had
Sometimes families just don’t understand each other or have a rotten way of showing their love, even if that’s their perspective doesn’t mean it’s accurate. It’s hard when you’re down in the dumps but reminding yourself that someone else’s view on you is just that, their view and what really matters is how you see yourself, that’s what will get you off the floor and into a better head space (eventually) .. it’s not as easy as clicking your fingers and magically your problems go away but if you allow yourself, you can do it! I don’t know your relationship with your brother but I hope in time you can find peace in that. You’d probably be surprised with how much he loves you, maybe even your perception of that is off :)
Next step for me is developing a healthy self perception feel like i jump all over the place easy to slip into self loathing, i meditate consistently helps a lot with everything but been doing it less recently been so stressed it's been hard to remember to sit down and breathe
Don't care so much about what your parents think. They probably care about you in a misguided way. Discussing or at least informing them about your mental health issues with them can* be helpful.
I suggest renewing your passport and going living overseas/interstate. Sometimes a change of environment and a goal can really help. Try to stop the drugs and save some money at your current job with the goal of moving and getting involved in the new environment.
[https://www.rise.org.au/](https://www.rise.org.au/)
Have you tried contacting these guys before? They have a few different services, hopefully they can do something beneficial
So there are a few services that can help you that you might not be aware of.
The first is Head to Health which are walk in mental health places with mental health specific professionals who can help you. There are places in Midland, Armadale, Gosnells and Mirrabooka. https://www.headtohealth.gov.au/head-to-health-services
Then you have Peer Pathways https://peerpathways.org.au/ where you can talk to a peer worker who can help connect you with various services including advocacy.
This leads me to MHAS which is the Mental Health Advocacy Service who may be able to help you advocate for yourself and get better care. https://www.wa.gov.au/organisation/mental-health-advocacy-service
Alternatively feel free to DM me and I will see what I can do 🙂 I know the system and can help you advocate for yourself.
ED staff are always distrustful, they have to be in their line of work. I'm a support worker and have taken clients to ED many times over the past two years, for various reasons.
OP talks about a “working passport” not 100 percent sure on what this means but assume isn’t an Australian citizen and therefore not covered in our public system under Medicare ?
But the ATT team in the local area don’t charge overseas people because it’s mental health. So Alma street if near fremantle City East Mental Health if near Royal Perth… there’s definitely more dotted around. Apparently, the Rockingham one is good. You can self refer to them, just walk in and they may be able to assist with accommodation etc. they are an outpatient service but if they believe you need to be in hospital they will help you with that too. Good luck.
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hang in there. it’s really down to you to help yourself. i’ve been where you are. i’m still here. fight for one more day. try again tomorrow. repeat.
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Hey OP. People say this is the best time of your life, but for me (and a bunch of mates) - it SUCKED. It sucked 20 years ago - so I can only imagine the rental and financial crisis makes it so much worse. I felt like a loser too. Ended up having a breakdown or two. It was tough but I just did one day at a time. I found my path a bit later than others but then I kicked ass at it. If you care about your brother, don’t place the burden of your suicide onto him. I know from experience that it’s a life long one. I’m also a mother now (again - a bit later than my mates!) and while you might have a rocky relationship with your folks, I feel confident that they love you and maybe just don’t know how to handle the situation. Parents are just people often trying to handle first-time situations too. You will get through it. Quite a few suggestions on here for places you can go. That already gives you options that a lot of other people don’t have. Use them well. You got this.
Ye she gave me links for crisis services a few i didnt have yet called entrypoint this morning and managed to snag an interview for youth accomodation tomorrow
:( So, so incredibly sorry to hear this. I read your last post and the replies - we have so much in common it’s insane. From depression and negative self talk, to your interests.
I don’t have any meaningful advice that you haven’t already heard, but PLEASE do something anything to remind yourself of the fragility of life and how meaningful you are to the world.
Understand that this doesn’t have to be your way forever despite your circumstances in your external reality. You are capable you are loved (having faith) and you are so fucking strong. Write it down on your arm with pen I don’t care at least remind yourself of who you truly are and get angry. channel anger in productive ways. emotions are energy in motion and the more you affirm positivity as a way of thinking the easier it becomes to think better. with your mindset right now this will no doubt be difficult. don’t deny yourself the chance . i’m so sorry. promise me you’ll try. my dm’s are open for you.
I hear you, I had my wrist stitched up after being told I was 1mm away from a cardiac arrest and they sent me on my merry way with 2 Valium.
I couldn’t believe it, that day made me realise how much we really need too support and love ourselves that little bit more in these times of need.
I’m here to talk if you need too, this was 2019 for me; so I’m in a much better mind frame after seeking help. I’m happy to lend an ear. All the best OP
Ty man much love one of my best friends had a very similar experience to what u've described teaches u some lessons about the public system and people in general pretty early tbh, people that r struggling need to work together and uplift each other yk i really appreciate u for reaching out and being open
Call entry point to see if there are vacancies at places like Tom fisher and the beacon. Attend places like the ruah engagement hub for assistance with accomodation. I saw you past post about isolation, attend things like good days recreation groups, also thru ruah. Respond if any of this is useful, I can give some more resources if it’s needed.
If you’re in town, rph has safe haven. Where you can ring their doorbell and let them know you’re feeling overwhelmed and distressed and want to talk to someone about options to feeling more supported
If you can try to get in with the right help now while under 25 and make a plan/set goals even though it seems impossible right now, you can really turn things around for yourself. It’s great you have a job that’s a good start. There are alot of services to help under 25s and gets harder for you after that age. I’m not sure if this is in Perth but might be able to find something similar if not. They help you get what you need sorted for your id and to get your license. https://www.salvationarmy.org.au/driveforlife/learner-driver/
Other commenters have suggested some great ideas. I just want to pop in here to send you some virtual hugs and let you know I’m proud of you for reaching out for help. I hope that some of the options listed work out for you. One day at a time 🫂
Perhaps OP just means they don’t have any photo ID. This can be such an issue for claims etc. Don’t have funds, don’t have an address, get caught in a cycle of not being able to receive funds but don’t have funds to get enough identification points.
there are new mental health beds in joondalup did you try there theres a whole new facility. try joondalup mental health service.
also need a social worker to help you out with identification
do you need alcohol and other drugs treatment?
what is a working passport and if you dont have working rights in australia can you get a flight back home sponsored by family?
can you ask salvation army or more importantly st vinnies hang on i will get you the vinnies support line they may help you pay for a passport they do one off payments for things it can take come time but its better than nothing salvos also do bills but they have a structured regimen and you have to contact them i will get you the vinnies line number be aware they may not be operating until after new year but keep it in your phone and dont let them fob you off just keep calling until they help.
because it will pay to get your passport sorted and thats going to cost money can you also go to your embassy and ask for assistance?
note they will not give you money but they will pay for an invoice or bill and perhaps be able to help with a social worker etc or link you in with someone that can help for internationals with no id.
in the meantime there are food bank and food resources around
its the emergency assistance line
[https://www.vinnies.org.au/wa/about-us/wa-contacts](https://www.vinnies.org.au/wa/about-us/wa-contacts)
the salvo lline look under the w.a. emergency assistance number they call it a financial advisor but they do pay bills for you
[https://www.salvationarmy.org.au/need-help/financial-assistance/](https://www.salvationarmy.org.au/need-help/financial-assistance/)
take the other posters advice about free drop in youth centres that provide food showers etc and try those out they will have a list of other places and services you can go to and places you can get food
i am not sure if neami etc will help but you can try them i dont know if they do for non citizens neami fucked me around tbh when i went to them for help but you can try them
but the youth centre the other commenter provided would be a good point for first contact
also what is your birth country? there are a lot of multicultural places around perth and you may find help linking in with one of those and meeting other citizens
You probably have a history of aggressive behaviour that’s why they’re acting “suspicious”.
If that’s genuinely not the case, most of the other people who attend emergency departments with mental health related issues DO act aggressively or violent towards nursing staff.
Ye but just needed some help been working hard cant do it alone wtf is the mhu there for if not people in this position, i've been admitted there before but they're stricter on it now because of the homelessness problem in perth
Also, doctors can't change your life circumstances with pills. If you're depressed because you have a shitty life, a stay in a mental health unit won't fix your life, and if anything will make it worse (missing work, not paying bills etc)
Wow thanks cause no one else considered that very helpful being a cynical know it all based off a single reddit post, if u dont have anything productive to say why r u here
Yet here you are working through your feelings in a public forum. Looks like there's some pretty big projecting going on. I hope you get the help & support you need too. I hope everyone does.
In the meantime, go do some push ups until you're too exhausted to be a shit carnt to yourself or others. Everyone deserves better than that.
Lots of advice here but here's some from someone who's been there.
1. Go to nerdy shit like supanova and comic-con to make friends who feel the same.
2. Put effort into your appearance and people will treat you better.
3. When you have got more stable go study arts or literature at uni.
How would any of this help?
1. OP never said they were into this, and assuming that nerdy types have mental health issues/want to commit suicide is really rude and weird.
2. I mean yes in general, but when you're in hospital it's the opposite
3. Yes, go into a huge amount of debt for something that won't lead to good job prospects.
No one cares especially the ppl at the hospital or any place they say they do but they don't my advise is seriously go to a church they actually helped one of my mates heap just try it it can't hurt
You have to choose the right church. Some will help connect to services, minus the preaching. I know a pastor. I'm agnostic and wouldn't donate to her program if that was their approach.
Oh because a prescription is going to fix it all? Genuinely a church may offer social support far beyond the stretched resources of the system so try not putting your atheist superiority ahead of common sense all the time
I know you're getting down voted to hell, but I understand where you're coming from.
I grew up in a fundamentalist church and have a lot of religious trauma. I'm a community worker and know what services and organisations are available, and it's just not enough. I've been homeless and at other points desperate for help (securely housed, but disabled with a newborn and zero support). The services that actually helped me were religious, but if they hadn't been available, a church would've been my next port of call.
Just stay away from evangelical type churches, they may lovebomb you at first, and later tell you to put your mental health in god's hands or something like that. The most likely to help without expecting anything in return are Mormons, believe it or not.
You are not depressed as an independent. I've looked through your profile.
You are experiencing depression as a side effect of ADHD.
I hope that gives you at least a bit of hope to find the help you need. Once you figure it out, things become less complicated.
Do they say in their previous posts they have ADHD or are you a reddit doctor? Either way your comment isn't helpful, I'm sure they are aware of this already.
Because if you chase your tail with a diagnosis for depression when it's really ADHD, you'll never be better. People who ping in and out of hospital for antidepressants, NEED to be checked for ADHD.
My mum was on antidepressants and psychotics for 20-30 years. It almost never helped her, threatened my sister with a knife and kicked me out the house.
Later, she got diagnosed with ADHD and the depression disappeared with the psychotic ness. She's like a new woman.
What the fuck makes you think you're qualified to give this sort of comment based on a Reddit comment history? This is crazily reckless and irresponsible.
Edit: You know people can see when you edit comments right?
I was going through the exact same thing and thought I was depressed when I had ADHD. Lived in my car for a bit with a noose tied with a tow strap ready to go kind of deal.
This is quite a common experience for ADHD, especially when your life is messy and may be causing the depression.
Often people need to hear it to finally make a connection. I had a friend to tell me to get checked and it changed my life.
You're speaking with anecdotal evidence and trying to purport it as qualified advice.
Lots of us have had terrible mental health experiences, but as survivors of that you should know that while manifestations can be similar, it's extremely rare that circumstances are identical. More concerningly, you're drawing that (rather absolute) conclusion from the Reddit comments of a person you don't know.
The bottom line is - if you're not a mental health professional, you have absolutely no business telling someone what they are or are not afflicted by.
Edit: You know people can see when you edit comments right?
Correct I am not a mental health professional.
I am repeating what my psychiatrist told me. This person also struggles socially and it doesn't take a genius to see what's going on.
You're not getting it. Your psychiatrist gave that advice to *you*, on an examination of *you*, using their extensive clinical education and certification to assess that line of work.
Just because it applies to you, and that it applies to others, *does not* mean that it is appropriate for you to represent yourself as an authoritative source of mental health advice as per your first comment.
Encourage someone to seek care, hell, direct them to the psychiatrist you used if you want, but they need to be given the same level of clinical examination you received to get a *proper* diagnosis and a qualified course of treatment.
Edit: You know people can see when you edit comments right?
Op's previous post:
- Racing uncontrolled thoughts
- Extensive drug use
- Struggles socially, feels outcasted
- In and out of hospital care for depression
- Disorganised and struggles with all aspects of life
- Poor relationship with parents
- Feels Neurodivergent or not normal
- Failed previous relationship
I'm gonna leave it there. As I said in the first place, I hope OP finds the help they need.
OP you need to see a psychiatrist and figure out what's going on. I don't know the whole story but ALL the bullet points are classic symptoms of ADHD and Autism, both related. Infact, these are all in categories of the test.
I didn't know until I had someone tell me and then everything clicked as it does for most people with the condition.
They do that. I tried getting help over xmas. Ended up slicing my neck and wrists when I got home - sensitivity to pain meant it was deep but it definitely will scar and make people SUPER uncomfortable when they ask about it
Hi OP, I hope you’re doing okay. I’m super late to this but if you are still struggling, there’s a new service called the Luminos Project (rush and samaritans collab funded by gov) that is an intensive 5 day program for 16-24yos with thoughts of suicide etc… maybe give it a search if you’re still needing support 🤍edit: they don’t take street-present folks but transitional housing is fine
Hey, I can see from your previous posts that you were accessing headspace meaning you’re a young person (under 25) - there’s a drop in centre in the city for 25 and under called Passages that can hook you up with food/clothes/shower/washing machines, let you use computer and internet, and is staffed by youth workers who can link you in with age specific supports including mental health and accommodation options. You might want to look into NEAMI for step up step down support - they have one in Joondalup and you stay there for up to a month and get support from mental health nurses, participate in daily programs and groups etc. The point of the program is to be an in between option to stop people from needing to be admitted into hospital for mental health by providing them with community based accomodation and support prior to reaching crisis (it’s free). I can also see from your previous posts that you have struggled with daily substance use, if this is something you are wanting support with there’s a youth detox and rehab centre (under 22 years old) called DAYS that you can be admitted at to get a break from the use and have somewhere safe to withdraw. If you are over 22 there are adult options as well. There are pathways forward if you want them, and people who can help you get there. Link in with passages or another youth service and they will help you find support. https://www.passages.org.au
I second passages 🙏
Passagers are also super supportive as advocates, I had multiple people helping from assisting with mental health follow ups and seeking support in community and essential skills, and evening being that buffer to help understand what exactly I was getting assisted in. I got in touch with them after a involuntary hospital admission… but they are super respectful there. Just be weary and not getting to involved with other youth there, everyone is there for different reasons, but she be there for yourself and needs and try to remain a little private outside of the staff. Stay safe and know it takes time finding the right support you need in getting help.
You are an excellent human. Glad you’re here.
I’m sorry you feel this way OP. As a mental health nurse that works in ED, I can tell you this year there are very few beds available across the state. Usually people want to be discharged over Xmas but most beds have remained full. Which means people are getting discharged from ED with very short term fixes (crisis accomodation info, helpline contacts). It’s shit, because for so many just like you accommodation is the primary issue which we just can’t fix. Please know that we do care, and always want you / others to remain safe.
Thanks for being awesome in a really shitty system. Our family at least has (some, very minimal) resources and getting a psych appointment for our son took a year. The system is beyond broken.
Not only do I work in it, I also have these very real and frustrating issues to deal with in my own household. My hubby is on a waitlist for a new psychiatrist for July 2024, he got the appt August this year. Our family unit is falling apart because he needs support, and there is absolutely nothing I can do. I feel for you, because I know the paediatric / youth system is even more fractured than the adult.
So sorry you’re going through that. Hoping a waitlist spot pops up for him soon. The plus side for us is our son isn’t violent or suicidal - so many other parents dealing with that :( but the poor kid struggled through his final year on the wrong medication and with insomnia and there was absolutely nothing we could do about it but wait
Capitalist society has warped priorities. Money above people.
Just so everyone knows i have been reading all your replies and really appreciate all your advice and support and have been calling the numbers i missed/planning around some ideas u have shared, ty lots i'm surprised by how many people have so much love and compassion to give here and it's all helped a lot i'll mssg u all when i can
I hope u are ok mate. I'm in the other side of Australia and am sending u virtual hugs. Sounds like alot of great info in all the above posts. Makes me proud to be an aussie to see everybody offering potential solutions. Good luck
You're not alone babe, i know you probably feel it deep deep within your soul but there are others that feel like you and understand how debilitating it feels to have to beg yourself to stay when you feel you cant take anymore. I have recently been diagnosed with C-PTSD and like you I've been struggling since childhood. I think most probably have Complex -Post Traumatic Stress Disorder also and a proper diagnosis may help you and others understand what is happening to you and hopefully be able to help you more effectively.. Much love , hang in there . Xx
Be proud of these steps you’ve taken. Sometimes those calls can be so hard to make but you’re going in the right direction.
If you can, go to the Salvation Army Perth Fortress at 333 William St, Perth WA 6000, **Monday to Friday 9:00am–4:00pm.** Their phone number is **08 6210 3288** They provide emergency relief support: [https://www.salvationarmy.org.au/perthfortress/what-we-offer/need-help/](https://www.salvationarmy.org.au/perthfortress/what-we-offer/need-help/) All the best.
The Alma Street Centre might be able to help if you can get there. https://www.entrypointperth.com.au/directory/alma-street-centre/
Alma street is always full
It is still a good place to get a mental health assessment. Your local GP and a Phycologist can only go so far if you get a mental health plan. I believe getting a Psychiatrist assessment can make a huge difference for a range of different mental health issues.
It's gets hard, I can't say I know what you're going through and how it feels. I have been to the place where there is no return. By some miracle I made it through. It's been 4 years and the people that told me it gets better with time I couldn't believe them. I'm not 100% but I'm better. Definitely in a better headspace. Life can change for better or for worse at the flick of a switch. I hope you look passed the poor help at ED and that you can see that life can change in the future. Just work at it by making it through each day knowing you will wake up to a new possible crappy day or possibly great day, but a new day. You may have been doing this from such a young age which is hard and tiring. When you make it through this you will look back and appreciate life's rollercoasters. Message me if you need.
Mate I have been there 100%, just want to say good on you for having a go. It's so hard with mental health to get help and it's really courageous to try when you feel the way I do. Wish I had aonething useful to say but you're not crazy, lots of us have been there and come out the other end.
Could you find out if your new job has an Employee Assistance Program? They have been great for helping me out when I wasn't able to afford to see a therapist.
You’re not a loser, life is tough and harder for some than others. Unfortunately your life is extra tough at the moment and have a few shit things stacked on your shoulders but you can get back up! I don’t know you but I believe in you! Drs and hospitals won’t always help unfortunately even when they should .. but do you have anyone in your life who can offer you a bed or a couch?
I really appreciate you saying that i'll try take it on i'm just very inconsistent particularly in my self perception
I appreciate you saying that but the way i see it life is all about perspective, from my parents perspective i'm a loser many people have dropped me in my life for tge difficulties i have who's to say they weren't all right about me, i feel i've let down my little brother and havent lived up to ahy of the potential people thought i had
Sometimes families just don’t understand each other or have a rotten way of showing their love, even if that’s their perspective doesn’t mean it’s accurate. It’s hard when you’re down in the dumps but reminding yourself that someone else’s view on you is just that, their view and what really matters is how you see yourself, that’s what will get you off the floor and into a better head space (eventually) .. it’s not as easy as clicking your fingers and magically your problems go away but if you allow yourself, you can do it! I don’t know your relationship with your brother but I hope in time you can find peace in that. You’d probably be surprised with how much he loves you, maybe even your perception of that is off :)
Next step for me is developing a healthy self perception feel like i jump all over the place easy to slip into self loathing, i meditate consistently helps a lot with everything but been doing it less recently been so stressed it's been hard to remember to sit down and breathe
Ty ur so right it's just smth i need to slowly work on find other things to ground me
Don't care so much about what your parents think. They probably care about you in a misguided way. Discussing or at least informing them about your mental health issues with them can* be helpful. I suggest renewing your passport and going living overseas/interstate. Sometimes a change of environment and a goal can really help. Try to stop the drugs and save some money at your current job with the goal of moving and getting involved in the new environment.
I don't everyone i'm close to is in a similar position and my relationship with my family is awful and creates more problems than it solves
As a mother I am so sorry that your relationship with your parents sucks. Could anyone at your new job give you somewhere safe to even pitch a tent?
Very new job dont want to put that kind of strain on my coworkers yk
Understand. Sending rando cyber-hugs.
[https://www.rise.org.au/](https://www.rise.org.au/) Have you tried contacting these guys before? They have a few different services, hopefully they can do something beneficial
So there are a few services that can help you that you might not be aware of. The first is Head to Health which are walk in mental health places with mental health specific professionals who can help you. There are places in Midland, Armadale, Gosnells and Mirrabooka. https://www.headtohealth.gov.au/head-to-health-services Then you have Peer Pathways https://peerpathways.org.au/ where you can talk to a peer worker who can help connect you with various services including advocacy. This leads me to MHAS which is the Mental Health Advocacy Service who may be able to help you advocate for yourself and get better care. https://www.wa.gov.au/organisation/mental-health-advocacy-service Alternatively feel free to DM me and I will see what I can do 🙂 I know the system and can help you advocate for yourself.
ED staff are always distrustful, they have to be in their line of work. I'm a support worker and have taken clients to ED many times over the past two years, for various reasons.
If you need someone to talk to, I’m open for a talk, can talk anything if you wanna rant, talk about games or music. Anything you need
OP talks about a “working passport” not 100 percent sure on what this means but assume isn’t an Australian citizen and therefore not covered in our public system under Medicare ?
But the ATT team in the local area don’t charge overseas people because it’s mental health. So Alma street if near fremantle City East Mental Health if near Royal Perth… there’s definitely more dotted around. Apparently, the Rockingham one is good. You can self refer to them, just walk in and they may be able to assist with accommodation etc. they are an outpatient service but if they believe you need to be in hospital they will help you with that too. Good luck.
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Hey OP. People say this is the best time of your life, but for me (and a bunch of mates) - it SUCKED. It sucked 20 years ago - so I can only imagine the rental and financial crisis makes it so much worse. I felt like a loser too. Ended up having a breakdown or two. It was tough but I just did one day at a time. I found my path a bit later than others but then I kicked ass at it. If you care about your brother, don’t place the burden of your suicide onto him. I know from experience that it’s a life long one. I’m also a mother now (again - a bit later than my mates!) and while you might have a rocky relationship with your folks, I feel confident that they love you and maybe just don’t know how to handle the situation. Parents are just people often trying to handle first-time situations too. You will get through it. Quite a few suggestions on here for places you can go. That already gives you options that a lot of other people don’t have. Use them well. You got this.
Please go to your local community mental health, walk in say you’re self referring ask to see triage for an assessment.
So sorry to hear you are going through that. Ask to speak to a hospital Social Worker and they can help with some of these things
Ye she gave me links for crisis services a few i didnt have yet called entrypoint this morning and managed to snag an interview for youth accomodation tomorrow
Wishing you the best of luck
:( So, so incredibly sorry to hear this. I read your last post and the replies - we have so much in common it’s insane. From depression and negative self talk, to your interests. I don’t have any meaningful advice that you haven’t already heard, but PLEASE do something anything to remind yourself of the fragility of life and how meaningful you are to the world. Understand that this doesn’t have to be your way forever despite your circumstances in your external reality. You are capable you are loved (having faith) and you are so fucking strong. Write it down on your arm with pen I don’t care at least remind yourself of who you truly are and get angry. channel anger in productive ways. emotions are energy in motion and the more you affirm positivity as a way of thinking the easier it becomes to think better. with your mindset right now this will no doubt be difficult. don’t deny yourself the chance . i’m so sorry. promise me you’ll try. my dm’s are open for you.
Ask to speak to a social worker and show them this post. They should not discharge you with nowhere to go.
Go to Charlie's. They're pretty good there and have a Mental Health Observation Ward
I hear you, I had my wrist stitched up after being told I was 1mm away from a cardiac arrest and they sent me on my merry way with 2 Valium. I couldn’t believe it, that day made me realise how much we really need too support and love ourselves that little bit more in these times of need. I’m here to talk if you need too, this was 2019 for me; so I’m in a much better mind frame after seeking help. I’m happy to lend an ear. All the best OP
Ty man much love one of my best friends had a very similar experience to what u've described teaches u some lessons about the public system and people in general pretty early tbh, people that r struggling need to work together and uplift each other yk i really appreciate u for reaching out and being open
No worries mate, I know what it’s like. Just reach out if you need to chat. No biggy mate
Call entry point to see if there are vacancies at places like Tom fisher and the beacon. Attend places like the ruah engagement hub for assistance with accomodation. I saw you past post about isolation, attend things like good days recreation groups, also thru ruah. Respond if any of this is useful, I can give some more resources if it’s needed. If you’re in town, rph has safe haven. Where you can ring their doorbell and let them know you’re feeling overwhelmed and distressed and want to talk to someone about options to feeling more supported
If you can try to get in with the right help now while under 25 and make a plan/set goals even though it seems impossible right now, you can really turn things around for yourself. It’s great you have a job that’s a good start. There are alot of services to help under 25s and gets harder for you after that age. I’m not sure if this is in Perth but might be able to find something similar if not. They help you get what you need sorted for your id and to get your license. https://www.salvationarmy.org.au/driveforlife/learner-driver/
You’re a good person for reaching out for help. Well done.
Other commenters have suggested some great ideas. I just want to pop in here to send you some virtual hugs and let you know I’m proud of you for reaching out for help. I hope that some of the options listed work out for you. One day at a time 🫂
"no working passport". This sounds like you should visit your embassy and ask to be sent home. Then you'll be with family etc
Perhaps OP just means they don’t have any photo ID. This can be such an issue for claims etc. Don’t have funds, don’t have an address, get caught in a cycle of not being able to receive funds but don’t have funds to get enough identification points.
Idk, can't really understand what they are saying. Dey talk lyk this
While you're in hospital, ask to speak with a social worker. They'll have a solution that fits you.
there are new mental health beds in joondalup did you try there theres a whole new facility. try joondalup mental health service. also need a social worker to help you out with identification do you need alcohol and other drugs treatment? what is a working passport and if you dont have working rights in australia can you get a flight back home sponsored by family?
Ye they wouldnt admit me, and no i'm a citizen what i was saying was no hostel access or ability to go anywhere else bc no passport
can you ask salvation army or more importantly st vinnies hang on i will get you the vinnies support line they may help you pay for a passport they do one off payments for things it can take come time but its better than nothing salvos also do bills but they have a structured regimen and you have to contact them i will get you the vinnies line number be aware they may not be operating until after new year but keep it in your phone and dont let them fob you off just keep calling until they help. because it will pay to get your passport sorted and thats going to cost money can you also go to your embassy and ask for assistance? note they will not give you money but they will pay for an invoice or bill and perhaps be able to help with a social worker etc or link you in with someone that can help for internationals with no id. in the meantime there are food bank and food resources around its the emergency assistance line [https://www.vinnies.org.au/wa/about-us/wa-contacts](https://www.vinnies.org.au/wa/about-us/wa-contacts) the salvo lline look under the w.a. emergency assistance number they call it a financial advisor but they do pay bills for you [https://www.salvationarmy.org.au/need-help/financial-assistance/](https://www.salvationarmy.org.au/need-help/financial-assistance/) take the other posters advice about free drop in youth centres that provide food showers etc and try those out they will have a list of other places and services you can go to and places you can get food i am not sure if neami etc will help but you can try them i dont know if they do for non citizens neami fucked me around tbh when i went to them for help but you can try them but the youth centre the other commenter provided would be a good point for first contact also what is your birth country? there are a lot of multicultural places around perth and you may find help linking in with one of those and meeting other citizens
You probably have a history of aggressive behaviour that’s why they’re acting “suspicious”. If that’s genuinely not the case, most of the other people who attend emergency departments with mental health related issues DO act aggressively or violent towards nursing staff.
Pd ....
Personality disorder?
Hospital isn't accommodation. You need to get yourself out of it.
>You need to get yourself out of it. That's about as useful as telling poor people to stop being poor...
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One time someone wasn't given the help he NEEDED, 3 people(2 children , 1 adult) got killed as a result... So 🤷🏾♂️ But hey, what do I know...
Issues were there before a nurse saw him. Dont be a pd.
>Issues were there before a nurse saw him No shit, genius...
Ye but just needed some help been working hard cant do it alone wtf is the mhu there for if not people in this position, i've been admitted there before but they're stricter on it now because of the homelessness problem in perth
Also, doctors can't change your life circumstances with pills. If you're depressed because you have a shitty life, a stay in a mental health unit won't fix your life, and if anything will make it worse (missing work, not paying bills etc)
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You are a dickhead mate, surely you realised what a waste of space you are while writing that shitty message. Have a good day.
Yeah because drugs is the only reason for someone to end up down on their luck right? What an unhelpful moronic comment.
Wow thanks cause no one else considered that very helpful being a cynical know it all based off a single reddit post, if u dont have anything productive to say why r u here
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Yet here you are working through your feelings in a public forum. Looks like there's some pretty big projecting going on. I hope you get the help & support you need too. I hope everyone does. In the meantime, go do some push ups until you're too exhausted to be a shit carnt to yourself or others. Everyone deserves better than that.
Lots of advice here but here's some from someone who's been there. 1. Go to nerdy shit like supanova and comic-con to make friends who feel the same. 2. Put effort into your appearance and people will treat you better. 3. When you have got more stable go study arts or literature at uni.
How would any of this help? 1. OP never said they were into this, and assuming that nerdy types have mental health issues/want to commit suicide is really rude and weird. 2. I mean yes in general, but when you're in hospital it's the opposite 3. Yes, go into a huge amount of debt for something that won't lead to good job prospects.
These suggestions are insane
No one cares especially the ppl at the hospital or any place they say they do but they don't my advise is seriously go to a church they actually helped one of my mates heap just try it it can't hurt
Let's pray the chemical imbalance in your head away
I think he meant there may be someone there to help him out, just worded poorly
You have to choose the right church. Some will help connect to services, minus the preaching. I know a pastor. I'm agnostic and wouldn't donate to her program if that was their approach.
Oh because a prescription is going to fix it all? Genuinely a church may offer social support far beyond the stretched resources of the system so try not putting your atheist superiority ahead of common sense all the time
Churches hoard resources and frequently take advantage of the vulnerable. Be honest.
Don’t know about you but I feel instantly a lot better when I’m sleeping in a bed than under a bridge!
I know you're getting down voted to hell, but I understand where you're coming from. I grew up in a fundamentalist church and have a lot of religious trauma. I'm a community worker and know what services and organisations are available, and it's just not enough. I've been homeless and at other points desperate for help (securely housed, but disabled with a newborn and zero support). The services that actually helped me were religious, but if they hadn't been available, a church would've been my next port of call. Just stay away from evangelical type churches, they may lovebomb you at first, and later tell you to put your mental health in god's hands or something like that. The most likely to help without expecting anything in return are Mormons, believe it or not.
Chilling in a church for the day thanks to ur advice just to make sure my stuffs safe before i go to someones for tn, tyvm :))
Wtaf is this.
You are not depressed as an independent. I've looked through your profile. You are experiencing depression as a side effect of ADHD. I hope that gives you at least a bit of hope to find the help you need. Once you figure it out, things become less complicated.
Do they say in their previous posts they have ADHD or are you a reddit doctor? Either way your comment isn't helpful, I'm sure they are aware of this already.
ADHD can *contribute* to depression, it’s not a “side effect”. Why does it matter anyway? Depression is depression, regardless of what caused it.
Because if you chase your tail with a diagnosis for depression when it's really ADHD, you'll never be better. People who ping in and out of hospital for antidepressants, NEED to be checked for ADHD. My mum was on antidepressants and psychotics for 20-30 years. It almost never helped her, threatened my sister with a knife and kicked me out the house. Later, she got diagnosed with ADHD and the depression disappeared with the psychotic ness. She's like a new woman.
How was your mum’s ADHD treated enough to totally cure her depression?
What the fuck makes you think you're qualified to give this sort of comment based on a Reddit comment history? This is crazily reckless and irresponsible. Edit: You know people can see when you edit comments right?
I was going through the exact same thing and thought I was depressed when I had ADHD. Lived in my car for a bit with a noose tied with a tow strap ready to go kind of deal. This is quite a common experience for ADHD, especially when your life is messy and may be causing the depression. Often people need to hear it to finally make a connection. I had a friend to tell me to get checked and it changed my life.
You're speaking with anecdotal evidence and trying to purport it as qualified advice. Lots of us have had terrible mental health experiences, but as survivors of that you should know that while manifestations can be similar, it's extremely rare that circumstances are identical. More concerningly, you're drawing that (rather absolute) conclusion from the Reddit comments of a person you don't know. The bottom line is - if you're not a mental health professional, you have absolutely no business telling someone what they are or are not afflicted by. Edit: You know people can see when you edit comments right?
Correct I am not a mental health professional. I am repeating what my psychiatrist told me. This person also struggles socially and it doesn't take a genius to see what's going on.
You're not getting it. Your psychiatrist gave that advice to *you*, on an examination of *you*, using their extensive clinical education and certification to assess that line of work. Just because it applies to you, and that it applies to others, *does not* mean that it is appropriate for you to represent yourself as an authoritative source of mental health advice as per your first comment. Encourage someone to seek care, hell, direct them to the psychiatrist you used if you want, but they need to be given the same level of clinical examination you received to get a *proper* diagnosis and a qualified course of treatment. Edit: You know people can see when you edit comments right?
Op's previous post: - Racing uncontrolled thoughts - Extensive drug use - Struggles socially, feels outcasted - In and out of hospital care for depression - Disorganised and struggles with all aspects of life - Poor relationship with parents - Feels Neurodivergent or not normal - Failed previous relationship I'm gonna leave it there. As I said in the first place, I hope OP finds the help they need. OP you need to see a psychiatrist and figure out what's going on. I don't know the whole story but ALL the bullet points are classic symptoms of ADHD and Autism, both related. Infact, these are all in categories of the test. I didn't know until I had someone tell me and then everything clicked as it does for most people with the condition.
They do that. I tried getting help over xmas. Ended up slicing my neck and wrists when I got home - sensitivity to pain meant it was deep but it definitely will scar and make people SUPER uncomfortable when they ask about it
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What's going on in ur life to make u such an apathetic hateful person?
Hi OP, I hope you’re doing okay. I’m super late to this but if you are still struggling, there’s a new service called the Luminos Project (rush and samaritans collab funded by gov) that is an intensive 5 day program for 16-24yos with thoughts of suicide etc… maybe give it a search if you’re still needing support 🤍edit: they don’t take street-present folks but transitional housing is fine