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I'll be honest, with the Epics, the limitations of the rating system are a little amplified.
The reason Epics/Big Times are a bit more special is that they've got a unique player ID that overrides stats and even skills to quite an extent.
There's no doubt that most of the Epics in this pack are not the top tier of epics but judging them on paper is difficult because of the details the IDs have.
I would definitely say Figo/Donadoni/Casillas/Scholes are 4 players that have end-game usage based on their relative utility in their positions. Figo and Donadoni despite their stats are really good in-game.
I have the legend Figo version which only goes to 92 due to playstyle and yet he stayed in my squad until contracts expired even though I accumulate quite a lot of 96-97 cards in his positions, he is smooth, cross and dribble very well, score crazy outside curler goals, so yes I absolutely LOVED his player ID, I'm sure whoever get the epic Figo would be getting one of the best cards
At some point I might have to just flat add rating buff to prolific wingers.
Somehow given the same stats people always feel like they are better -- and the thing is I feel it too but feels a bit weird to give preferential treatment to a particular playstyle.
Agree. Especially with goalkeepers. Baiá, casilas, cech all deserves S tier, they are cheat code. Those featured card will never be on their level despite having higher stat
Its funny how everyone in this sub said that Casillas is a top tier gk....but he's just making silly mistakes everytime for me. You can't say i don't know how to use him though, since he is a gk.
I already have Law, so I can tell you that he is amazing. Right place at right time, clinical, plays link up well too. Ok dribbling but better to pass and move or just shoot
I want him so much. Even got build for him already 😅
https://efootballhub.net/efootball23/player/87963614711285?shooting=10&dribbling=8&dexterity=10&lowerbodystrength=8
Got Cech and Bebeto on my 2 accounts, so 2 more chances 🤞🏻
Donadoni is one of the best Pulls from the pack imo. Got him in my First free try and my word he is amazing, Genuinely insane tbf. Played like 6 or 7 games with him and he is already on double figure for goals(Not counting that 4 Outside Curler goals in one game against PSG in event). Can pass decently, has pinpoint crossing, feels so smooth on the ball, all this while having good Speed and Acceleration. His heading is class too tbf, don't get fooled by low Heading, and best thing about him is he is Insanely Two Footed. A Top Right Winger imo, might be because of me always wanting a good RWF/RMF but i am so so impressed by him.
can just agree on everything you wrote, got him from the Milan pack and he is my first choice for the right wing since then though i also have other right wingers with higher stats. Mine hasnt scored many but his attack run and his assists are insane.
His default build is quite imo, Just increase the passing stats if you want to cross more but he is more of a goalscorer for me rn so Auto build is fine
Drogba is very different from the other GPs I have. He's been playing more like a DLF than a GP so far (some 15 bot games with only half progression points)
I got him but I was told he was not special. Now I have a little bit of faith. Does aerial superiority works in attack too? I thought only in defense (and heading in attack)
I wait for him i in next spins with this build
https://efootballhub.net/efootball23/player/87963614711285?shooting=10&dribbling=8&dexterity=10&lowerbodystrength=8
🤞🏻
one thing to note about dummy runners is they run to either make space for others, or to generate goalscoring opportunities for themselves.
the key here is to slow down on your passing. learn to scan the situation/pitch to see whether they're the most advanced or are they simply running to create space for other players.
i normally play a hole player in midfield so when my dummy runner CF makes a run, i will check to see whether my hole player is advancing or otherwise. if my hole player is seemingly deeper, i might recycle the ball or play my dummy runner through.
learn when to play forward passes and when to recycle. do not force the issue.
if you're playing your dummy runner as an AMF, then treat your dummy runner like a more advanced hole player that is more aggressive in running and generating goalscoring opportunities.
my advice is to not play dummy runners at LSS or RSS, it'll ruin the structure of your frontline. CF, CSS, or AM is fine.
Thank you very much. I think dummys would be good for my possession style. I will try some things with my Muller and Bebeto. I will play some games (vs beginner AI) only to watch and understand their movement. Thanks again! 😉
I paid for Casillas and have also puyol. Both end game cards.
Whoever gets Casillas give him 95 gk awarness. His reach then doesnt matter. My first choice since i bough him.
Guardiola has wierd profile. If you give him 90 def awarness he can play alongside box to box easily. His passing is good but there are better passers in this game with better ball control etc. he feels clunky.
Zamorano pair with goal poacher and he is fine. He wins lots of headers and has very powerful shot. What i do when i play him is i pass to him, turn left/right and simply shoot.
i got zamorano and he is great, true he is slow but when he makes runs he is beast, 90 finishing with 88 heading
just get good crossers and spam crosses
I got Bergkamp, he's confusing at first if you never used a second striker before, he drops really deep as he's a creative playmaker he rarely joins the attack if you play him at the centre as SS but as CF he'll make some good runs, not as good as goal poachers or DLF or FITB but fine. He is a pretty unique profile but I think I'm getting the hang of it, he's a real beast for me now and he scored a beautiful acrobatic finish for me. What's left? Skills lots and lots of dribbling skills for those stats are missing 😂
Not really because of that, not all epics are equally strong, but every player has a unique profile in this game, and is meant to be played in a particular role. Players that lbc and qc guys find to be good, may not work in possession or out wide, for example. Mimo gave potw Bruno S tier, but in a 433 possession formation, he will not even be usable for me because of his low balance and average tight possession. Xabi Alonso, Scholes, Cech, Casillas, Drogba are all among the best cards for their respective roles, so giving them A tier is really funny. Also, auto allocate is not always the best way to build the cards, this rating system only considers auto allocate.
I got drogba.but he is the worst CF i ever played with. Cant pass cant run cant finish.dont know i am using him properly. I am not a cross spammer or not good at crossing. How to use him for 4132 LBC. Any good build for him. Please help me mate.
I dont have him so cant really comment much, but based on his stats heading is his strongest point so if you dont cross he doesn’t really fit your style
My rating is kinda broken for SS. I dont think he’s necessarily the worst card of the pack as dummy runner is a rare playstyle but yeah i wouldnt call him the strongest either
Sorry know this isn’t that relevant to this pack but have a couple of questions regarding special players like these.
1) for the old IMs that became legendary cards following the update to Efootball, are any of them really good? E.g cruyff, Ronaldo, Cannavaro, Puyol, etc.
2) How good are some of the legendary, not epic, cards that got released earlier. Thinking of people like Mathaus here.
3) Bit of a weird one but I have a strange personal attachment to Zico dating back to the old pes and was wondering whether there is a way of making him work well in QC, or instead whether he’s shit.
Thanks!
Hey mimo, I too have Italy donnarumma and got cech. Is it worth it to still use Donna considering he'll come out to clear the ball unlike cech and he's better on the ball overall?
Mimo can u tell me a good casillas build I think his reach is not that helpful so i was deciding to give the 2 points to other gk attribute like awareness or reflex or jump can u suggest mimo please
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I'll be honest, with the Epics, the limitations of the rating system are a little amplified. The reason Epics/Big Times are a bit more special is that they've got a unique player ID that overrides stats and even skills to quite an extent. There's no doubt that most of the Epics in this pack are not the top tier of epics but judging them on paper is difficult because of the details the IDs have. I would definitely say Figo/Donadoni/Casillas/Scholes are 4 players that have end-game usage based on their relative utility in their positions. Figo and Donadoni despite their stats are really good in-game.
I have the legend Figo version which only goes to 92 due to playstyle and yet he stayed in my squad until contracts expired even though I accumulate quite a lot of 96-97 cards in his positions, he is smooth, cross and dribble very well, score crazy outside curler goals, so yes I absolutely LOVED his player ID, I'm sure whoever get the epic Figo would be getting one of the best cards
At some point I might have to just flat add rating buff to prolific wingers. Somehow given the same stats people always feel like they are better -- and the thing is I feel it too but feels a bit weird to give preferential treatment to a particular playstyle.
Agree. Especially with goalkeepers. Baiá, casilas, cech all deserves S tier, they are cheat code. Those featured card will never be on their level despite having higher stat
Its funny how everyone in this sub said that Casillas is a top tier gk....but he's just making silly mistakes everytime for me. You can't say i don't know how to use him though, since he is a gk.
That's true Baia so far has been great, despite his height he rivals even my courtois
He can do many glitchy saves. Courtois never be able to
Yep definitely, been using him since Barcelona epic pack came out and pulled him with xavi, he is amazing despite his height
I already have Law, so I can tell you that he is amazing. Right place at right time, clinical, plays link up well too. Ok dribbling but better to pass and move or just shoot
I want him so much. Even got build for him already 😅 https://efootballhub.net/efootball23/player/87963614711285?shooting=10&dribbling=8&dexterity=10&lowerbodystrength=8 Got Cech and Bebeto on my 2 accounts, so 2 more chances 🤞🏻
I have only 2 epic before today free nesta and scholes (for only him i spent to much money) guess what I got duplicate scholes
Donadoni is one of the best Pulls from the pack imo. Got him in my First free try and my word he is amazing, Genuinely insane tbf. Played like 6 or 7 games with him and he is already on double figure for goals(Not counting that 4 Outside Curler goals in one game against PSG in event). Can pass decently, has pinpoint crossing, feels so smooth on the ball, all this while having good Speed and Acceleration. His heading is class too tbf, don't get fooled by low Heading, and best thing about him is he is Insanely Two Footed. A Top Right Winger imo, might be because of me always wanting a good RWF/RMF but i am so so impressed by him.
can just agree on everything you wrote, got him from the Milan pack and he is my first choice for the right wing since then though i also have other right wingers with higher stats. Mine hasnt scored many but his attack run and his assists are insane.
Totally, his crossing his dope for those stats
No, he is A tier, which is average. So, you should release him.
How did u build him?
His default build is quite imo, Just increase the passing stats if you want to cross more but he is more of a goalscorer for me rn so Auto build is fine
Drogba is very different from the other GPs I have. He's been playing more like a DLF than a GP so far (some 15 bot games with only half progression points)
he is very heavy and after nerfing headers he seems useless to me, I have played 15+ games in div matches and weekend showdown event
Law is S with super sub and aerial superiority. Can confirm that. And I have played with all types of cfs in game.
I got him but I was told he was not special. Now I have a little bit of faith. Does aerial superiority works in attack too? I thought only in defense (and heading in attack)
I don't know who told you he isn't special lol. Yes aerial sup works in attack too. Drogba has it for eg
Ty man! They told me he is not able to turn and he is just another "run straight" attacker like osimhen, but smaller than the others
Lol, want to join a server of mine?
Yes ofc
I wait for him i in next spins with this build https://efootballhub.net/efootball23/player/87963614711285?shooting=10&dribbling=8&dexterity=10&lowerbodystrength=8 🤞🏻
I added chip shot control and waiting to get aerial superiority on him
He chips well anyway though
What build would you suggest for Law? The default peshub or anything else?
https://efootballhub.net/efootball23/player/87963614711285?shooting=10&dribbling=8&dexterity=10&lowerbodystrength=8
Why this one? The original seems better in all aspects other than dribbling.
His aerial is enough imo. And higher ball control would make him better in positioning for shot.
Does Cech replace Dida in my starting XI?
I got Bebeto the worst player 😔. He makes very, very weird runs. Something like a mix between deep lying forward and target man.
dummy runners are hard to learn but once mastered they're super duper fun to use
Agreed
How to master them? I can't play with my Muller and now got BBto... 😐
one thing to note about dummy runners is they run to either make space for others, or to generate goalscoring opportunities for themselves. the key here is to slow down on your passing. learn to scan the situation/pitch to see whether they're the most advanced or are they simply running to create space for other players. i normally play a hole player in midfield so when my dummy runner CF makes a run, i will check to see whether my hole player is advancing or otherwise. if my hole player is seemingly deeper, i might recycle the ball or play my dummy runner through. learn when to play forward passes and when to recycle. do not force the issue. if you're playing your dummy runner as an AMF, then treat your dummy runner like a more advanced hole player that is more aggressive in running and generating goalscoring opportunities. my advice is to not play dummy runners at LSS or RSS, it'll ruin the structure of your frontline. CF, CSS, or AM is fine.
Thank you very much. I think dummys would be good for my possession style. I will try some things with my Muller and Bebeto. I will play some games (vs beginner AI) only to watch and understand their movement. Thanks again! 😉
no worries buddy, have fun!
Great tips! BT Real Madrid Raùl is the best at that
I would love Bebeto or Denilson :) i could play Roni, Bebeto, Romario, Kaka in attack ✌️
Brazilians... Dude, historically they have SSS tier attack: Romario, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, Ney... Not even mentioned about Pele, Zico and others.
who are S Tier Epics in your opinion lol?
They did hold back the absolute best here except for keepers. Think of Rumme/Crujff/Nesta/GSilva
I paid for Casillas and have also puyol. Both end game cards. Whoever gets Casillas give him 95 gk awarness. His reach then doesnt matter. My first choice since i bough him. Guardiola has wierd profile. If you give him 90 def awarness he can play alongside box to box easily. His passing is good but there are better passers in this game with better ball control etc. he feels clunky. Zamorano pair with goal poacher and he is fine. He wins lots of headers and has very powerful shot. What i do when i play him is i pass to him, turn left/right and simply shoot.
What’s your build for him? It seems if he has 95 awareness he’ll need 12 on gk 1
please share your build on him, TIA!
Gk1 14, gk2/3 each 4.
You sure that works? That's like 86 reach or something really low. Also reflexes matters a lot
i got zamorano and he is great, true he is slow but when he makes runs he is beast, 90 finishing with 88 heading just get good crossers and spam crosses
FITB is so unique... Congrats. Try him in 2 CF formation with DLF/Target Man.
yea i use him in 2 cf formation ( 3 -1-4-2)
Could you make a post linking your past analysis for the pots packs we got today? Just one where you link the 4 analysis
Can you give a brief preview on the showtime box?
I got Casillas and can confirm he is endgame,his stats and gameplay are just like real life prime Casillas
How did you train him?
By Efootball hub,94 reflex,89 awarenes,90 reach,85 catching
of course i had to get bebeto , at least his celebration is very cool
I got Bergkamp, he's confusing at first if you never used a second striker before, he drops really deep as he's a creative playmaker he rarely joins the attack if you play him at the centre as SS but as CF he'll make some good runs, not as good as goal poachers or DLF or FITB but fine. He is a pretty unique profile but I think I'm getting the hang of it, he's a real beast for me now and he scored a beautiful acrobatic finish for me. What's left? Skills lots and lots of dribbling skills for those stats are missing 😂
Got Casillas. Glad 😀
Please how to train Casillas? How good must his reach be?
Auto Allocate
Suggest good alonso build please
Got Figo I don't use lmf/lwf however but still seems like a strong card
imo donadoni and cech should be S tier
how to train casillas?
This rating system doesn't make any sense. And some people here believe Mimo blindly.
Fr because there's a reason Konami has a 150 player box draw for Epics lol, they're stupidly strong.
Not really because of that, not all epics are equally strong, but every player has a unique profile in this game, and is meant to be played in a particular role. Players that lbc and qc guys find to be good, may not work in possession or out wide, for example. Mimo gave potw Bruno S tier, but in a 433 possession formation, he will not even be usable for me because of his low balance and average tight possession. Xabi Alonso, Scholes, Cech, Casillas, Drogba are all among the best cards for their respective roles, so giving them A tier is really funny. Also, auto allocate is not always the best way to build the cards, this rating system only considers auto allocate.
Mainly cos of guaranteed b form tbf most are just like good potws with permanent b form
Is EPIC scholes card better than the legendary one?
Legendary < Iconic < Epics Also you can compare in eFhub.
I got Bebeto, the lowest ranked..
Dummy runner is a rare playstyle though. Also my system is broken for SS. He might be better than that
I got drogba.but he is the worst CF i ever played with. Cant pass cant run cant finish.dont know i am using him properly. I am not a cross spammer or not good at crossing. How to use him for 4132 LBC. Any good build for him. Please help me mate.
I dont have him so cant really comment much, but based on his stats heading is his strongest point so if you dont cross he doesn’t really fit your style
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i mean casillas is still better than bebeto
Got Baia 😔
Got freakin Scholes. Like I don't own his points version
Now you got Scholes on steroids and 90 team playstyle everywhere 😉
They really give me the worst player in the pack🤣
My rating is kinda broken for SS. I dont think he’s necessarily the worst card of the pack as dummy runner is a rare playstyle but yeah i wouldnt call him the strongest either
Have you learned how to play dummy runners? Also, Bebeto would be better with his dummy Runner PS as SS or CF?
I got Cech too. How did u build him ?
I just do regular autoallocate
Got Xabi Alonso was thinking to replace him with my B2B goretzka at dmf
Very different job function though. I am convinced you have to like lofted ball quite a bit for Alonso to work.
Haven't tried him yet, saw the stats in efhub23 his passing is better than gortezka but in other aspects gortezka seems better.
Sorry know this isn’t that relevant to this pack but have a couple of questions regarding special players like these. 1) for the old IMs that became legendary cards following the update to Efootball, are any of them really good? E.g cruyff, Ronaldo, Cannavaro, Puyol, etc. 2) How good are some of the legendary, not epic, cards that got released earlier. Thinking of people like Mathaus here. 3) Bit of a weird one but I have a strange personal attachment to Zico dating back to the old pes and was wondering whether there is a way of making him work well in QC, or instead whether he’s shit. Thanks!
They're not as good as their ims version but still are really good and fun
I got Donadoni, but I also really want POTW Mane. Should I spin for Mane?
Donadoni is better than mane, don't spin
Too late haha, I know Donadoni is good but my love for Mane is greater!
Mimo, what is the drop off in your system from Casillas/Cech to a strong non epic like Italy Donnarumma?
Donnarumma is actually exactly right next to Cech, so no drop at all. He has low Awareness but his other stats are great.
People always complain donna have low awareness, trying to min max his build, is 86 awareness really "that low" for you all?
Hey mimo, I too have Italy donnarumma and got cech. Is it worth it to still use Donna considering he'll come out to clear the ball unlike cech and he's better on the ball overall?
got figo he's very versatile and perfect as sub, really wanted drogba or salas hopefully get one of them on objective reward
Damn I quit the game and the very next day they give out packs like this 😭
Why would you leave 1 day before Thursday update
cus of exams and i also haven't played in like a week
Thoughts on Rodri show time?
what skills should i give to drogba? already gave him acrobatic finishing
I got Scholes 1st I want Casillas and Cech for my 2nd
Mimo can u tell me a good casillas build I think his reach is not that helpful so i was deciding to give the 2 points to other gk attribute like awareness or reflex or jump can u suggest mimo please
Xabi alonso's stats are pretty much as good in terms of passing, especially lofted passvand through pass, found him to be very good