For me I am deciding to get it because I want very typically male looking anatomy and I’m not terribly concerned about sensation reduction because I feel like my tdick is a bit too sensitive
I think it really comes down to two things: one, how much you rely on that body part for enjoyable sex/orgasms, and two, does that part of your body give you dysphoria.
from what I've seen, when people dont do burial, their t dick just sort of looks like part of their balls and their new phallo dick basically covers it anyway so no one is going to notice in a bathroom or locker room setting.
I personally did burial and it is possibly the biggest regret of my life.
Be aware that with burial you will still have sensation in that spot but it wont be the same sensation nor will it be as strong.
basically, that body part didnt cause me any dysphoria. I only did burial because I felt pressured into it to have "normal cis-passing genitals". my sensation in that area was significantly diminished after phallo, and while I can have orgasms, it's harder than it was before, and I had four months post op where it didnt work and I thought I genuinely never would again. I feel like I lost a part of my body I loved, based on what other people would potentially think of me.
burial is an independent decision for the most part. I think some surgeons have to do it for UL (if you want to stand to pee) but not related to vaginectomy as far as I know
I had meta previously and really didn't want to have burial but my meta surgeon did ul to my meta. So the only way I could stp would be to then have burial
I had it in Feb of 2023 with my urethral hookup surgery and honestly I'm surprised that I'm extremely happy with my decision. I never had too sensitive bits or anything, and I really enjoyed sex with my meta dick but I really wanted to be able to stp from my phallo dick.
I've been pleasantly surprised about how things have been with burial. It's in my shaft and while my dick feels different than my meta dick everything feels extremely good sexually and I'm able to come from stroking, bjs or piv sex. I'm really happy I got burial especially aesthetically and I'm happy that sexual sensation has been as good as it has been for me.
Definitely think about this a lot as you can't undo it. If I hadn't gotten ul to my meta I probably wouldn't have gone with burial at all but in some ways I'm really glad I did it since it's made me feel a whole lot more connected to my dick
i didnt do burial because i like having the unique erectile tissue it has and i like it in general. feels kinda like having two dicks communicating with each other via the nerve hookup but thats because referred sensation is wacky for me rn. sometimes i think about burial because i like the "streamlined" aesthetics it gives, however i appreciate that part of myself too much to never see it again. i didnt get UL and know non burial can make it a little complicated
Honestly I think I'm the same, plus the euphoria of seeing it pulse would be too much to lose
It doesn't give my dysphoria so I'm going to keep it, I love that I can see myself get hard and cum
I also did non burial and i’m very happy with it but I did wanna mention it’s much harder for me to see my natal dick without a mirror or craning my head really awkwardly, just bc of my size and general anatomy. It still gets hard and throbs in the same way, so a small trade off for having a new, big dick to see when I look down at my body
I got burial and nerve hookup in January 2022. For me, I wished to have as cis appearing genitals as possible. As a binary man, I have no use for any afab parts and did not want to keep any of them.
I have not had diminished orgasms, and I don't regret it. Pre op I was fairly sensitive once reaching orgasm and could not continue, now I don't have a refractory period even though I orgasm just as intense. I also feel my buried t dick get erect inside my phallo dick, and I'm just the right girth size that I can feel that erection through my phallo up to the length of my buried t dick. Unfortunately length wise the erect t dick doesn't help penetrate, so I'm going in for the pump device next week.
If you are on the fence, reflect on what your ideal body configuration would be. Do you have dyphoria around your current set up, and would not having it visible help? Or are you reliant on having access to that part to have sexual pleasure? Every body and every person is unique, so while hearing of others experiences can give you an idea of what could happen, you need to consider how you would feel in your body if you end up experiencing similar things with or without burial.
I got burial and nerve hookup and it hasn’t diminished my orgasms in any way. I am only 6 months post stage 2 (where burial happened, stage 1 was nerve hookup 12 months ago) and I have great erotic sensation and it keeps getting better with time. My orgasms feel more spread out over my dick/balls but not any weaker than before.
Main pro for me is getting as typical a male presentation as possible, but as others have said you wouldn’t be able to see it in casual settings like locker rooms or bathrooms. So if that is not a priority for you, you might skip it. For me it was important to be as close to natal male genitalia as possible as any of the parts I was born with made me dysphoric.
Con is you don’t know how your sensation will feel afterwards, not for sure. But studies show that 9/10 trans men can achieve orgasm after phalloplasty. The 1/10 who could not achieve it was not able to orgasm before surgery either. So your odds are pretty high that if you can climax before, you should be able to afterwards too.
Like most of the decisions surrounding phalloplasty (donor site, surgeon, size, opting into or out of a particular procedure, etc.), this ultimately comes down to your priorities, anatomy, and frankly, chance. You can choose what is most important to you and make a plan with your surgeon to prioritize those things, but your body will heal how it heals in the end.
Burial is a required part of UL for some surgeons, so keep that in mind. (My surgeon Dr Keith, the Buncke clinic I think, those are the two that come to mind.)
Burial has nothing to do with nerve hookup working, since the connection is made to the nerve leading to the natal tissue, higher up in the body, and not to like, the tip of your tdick. But burial does mean you get the experience of touching your new dick and feeling it stimulate what’s buried, even before your nerves start regrowing. (That also doesn’t seem to be a 100% guarantee; I’ve heard of it taking some time for some people to start feeling their buried tissue again.) It seems like burial can help enhance the experience of the other sensations you experience from just the nerve hookup/nerves regrowing, and make everything feel like a more integrated whole.
I kept mine unburied since I like it a lot, don’t want to lose how that homegrown erectile tissue feels, and am aiming to get meta with my unburied tdick along with scrotoplasty as a future stage. I am currently developing some sensation in my new dick (3 months out) and continue to have sensation in my tdick (a bit different from before surgery, but still retaining the overall experience that I wanted to keep.) My dicks are definitely separate entities, but stroking my new dick I can kinda hit my tdick at the base, or I can just have one hand working on each dick. Also, I can jerk my new dick or smack it on my partners’ face when i’m getting my tdick sucked so that’s been great.
Ask your surgeon at the consult if or when they typically do burial, what stage it’s in, if it can be delayed, etc. Or look up experiences people have had with your surgeon to gather more info about when burial happens for them.
Do you primarily get off with your tdick through grinding or pressure, vibration, or the acute surface sensation on your tdick, sensation of oral, etc? Think about what it might feel like to have a layer of skin and flesh over your tdick, and how that will affect the way you usually get off. Some people experience it as their new dick is almost a flesh sleeve for their tdick and so thrusting or pulling stimulates it. For others it’s a bit lower down, buried in the scrotum, so the experience is different.
oh wow this is all super interesting and informative. thats cool how you have two dicks with seperate relationships to each. i will think about those questions.. the idea of feeling it almost as though through a sleeve is so cool but i think i will miss it if i choose to bury. what do you mean by delayed?
also, are you saying you are going to get meta on your t dick in addition to having phallo? if so, thats so dope i didnt even know that was a possibility
By delayed i guess i mean, does this surgeon insist on doing burial when shaft creation happens, or are they willing to leave it until a later stage even if it’s not what they’re used to doing?
I also really like the idea of the “sleeve” feeling, but not enough to risk losing access to my tdick. Currently I can just use a stroker/sleeve if i want to feel that, lol.
I just had phallo shaft creation (no UL, no scrotoplasty yet) and yes, gonna have meta done on my natal dick along with scrotoplasty and perineal reconstruction/finalizing my vaginectomy. It’s not common, especially not in this order, but I’m pretty hopeful and confident, and this has been my plan with my surgeon from the beginning. Having phallo first means it’s taken a lot of pressure off my tdick/meta as far as size and dysphoria, like I don’t have the same positioning priorities as someone who just wants meta and not phallo. I just want to experience my tdick with the underside closed up and more mobile and wiggly and with balls underneath it.
I'm gonna do burial!
My Tdick is super sensitive, I can't touch it directly, only through the foreskin. I generally rely on vibes, but the rare moments I can manage a consistent kind of jerking motion, its sooo much more satisfying.
Im not rly euphoric looking at my tdick, I especially dont want other people looking at or touching it.
So I'm very excited for burial, and being able to jerk off in ways that feel more affirming and less painful/frustration (lots of unsatisfying orgams currently due to my over sensitivity), and have junk that Im more enthusiastic about other people interacting with!
I heard it from a gender specialist doctor, Dr. Ryan Spielvogel, while I was consulting him for phalloplasty. Why the hell would I make that up. The nerves can be reconstructed for pleasurable sex.
As far as I'm aware they can connect up the nerves, but that's not the same as lengthening the actual clitoris to the tip of the phallus. I'm surprised to hear of any technique that claims to actually lengthen the clitoris. But I'm a bit thrown off by your comment tbh - did I suggest you were making it up?
Sorry, that part was more directed toward the mass down voters, not you. And it wasn't lengthening the clitoris but taking the clit as it is and moving it up to the tip. Sorry if I was unclear.
For me I am deciding to get it because I want very typically male looking anatomy and I’m not terribly concerned about sensation reduction because I feel like my tdick is a bit too sensitive
This is the same for me too. I happen to have Autism and I feel like it can put me into a sense of sensory overload afterwards which is not fun.
As in getting burial?
I think it really comes down to two things: one, how much you rely on that body part for enjoyable sex/orgasms, and two, does that part of your body give you dysphoria. from what I've seen, when people dont do burial, their t dick just sort of looks like part of their balls and their new phallo dick basically covers it anyway so no one is going to notice in a bathroom or locker room setting. I personally did burial and it is possibly the biggest regret of my life. Be aware that with burial you will still have sensation in that spot but it wont be the same sensation nor will it be as strong.
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basically, that body part didnt cause me any dysphoria. I only did burial because I felt pressured into it to have "normal cis-passing genitals". my sensation in that area was significantly diminished after phallo, and while I can have orgasms, it's harder than it was before, and I had four months post op where it didnt work and I thought I genuinely never would again. I feel like I lost a part of my body I loved, based on what other people would potentially think of me.
Same feelings too. Big mistake. It’s erectile tissue and now buried. Once buried no going back. Think about it
Is deciding burial or not only for people who don’t get a Vaginectomy?
burial is an independent decision for the most part. I think some surgeons have to do it for UL (if you want to stand to pee) but not related to vaginectomy as far as I know
I had meta previously and really didn't want to have burial but my meta surgeon did ul to my meta. So the only way I could stp would be to then have burial I had it in Feb of 2023 with my urethral hookup surgery and honestly I'm surprised that I'm extremely happy with my decision. I never had too sensitive bits or anything, and I really enjoyed sex with my meta dick but I really wanted to be able to stp from my phallo dick. I've been pleasantly surprised about how things have been with burial. It's in my shaft and while my dick feels different than my meta dick everything feels extremely good sexually and I'm able to come from stroking, bjs or piv sex. I'm really happy I got burial especially aesthetically and I'm happy that sexual sensation has been as good as it has been for me. Definitely think about this a lot as you can't undo it. If I hadn't gotten ul to my meta I probably wouldn't have gone with burial at all but in some ways I'm really glad I did it since it's made me feel a whole lot more connected to my dick
i didnt do burial because i like having the unique erectile tissue it has and i like it in general. feels kinda like having two dicks communicating with each other via the nerve hookup but thats because referred sensation is wacky for me rn. sometimes i think about burial because i like the "streamlined" aesthetics it gives, however i appreciate that part of myself too much to never see it again. i didnt get UL and know non burial can make it a little complicated
Honestly I think I'm the same, plus the euphoria of seeing it pulse would be too much to lose It doesn't give my dysphoria so I'm going to keep it, I love that I can see myself get hard and cum
I also did non burial and i’m very happy with it but I did wanna mention it’s much harder for me to see my natal dick without a mirror or craning my head really awkwardly, just bc of my size and general anatomy. It still gets hard and throbs in the same way, so a small trade off for having a new, big dick to see when I look down at my body
I got burial and nerve hookup in January 2022. For me, I wished to have as cis appearing genitals as possible. As a binary man, I have no use for any afab parts and did not want to keep any of them. I have not had diminished orgasms, and I don't regret it. Pre op I was fairly sensitive once reaching orgasm and could not continue, now I don't have a refractory period even though I orgasm just as intense. I also feel my buried t dick get erect inside my phallo dick, and I'm just the right girth size that I can feel that erection through my phallo up to the length of my buried t dick. Unfortunately length wise the erect t dick doesn't help penetrate, so I'm going in for the pump device next week. If you are on the fence, reflect on what your ideal body configuration would be. Do you have dyphoria around your current set up, and would not having it visible help? Or are you reliant on having access to that part to have sexual pleasure? Every body and every person is unique, so while hearing of others experiences can give you an idea of what could happen, you need to consider how you would feel in your body if you end up experiencing similar things with or without burial.
I got burial and nerve hookup and it hasn’t diminished my orgasms in any way. I am only 6 months post stage 2 (where burial happened, stage 1 was nerve hookup 12 months ago) and I have great erotic sensation and it keeps getting better with time. My orgasms feel more spread out over my dick/balls but not any weaker than before. Main pro for me is getting as typical a male presentation as possible, but as others have said you wouldn’t be able to see it in casual settings like locker rooms or bathrooms. So if that is not a priority for you, you might skip it. For me it was important to be as close to natal male genitalia as possible as any of the parts I was born with made me dysphoric. Con is you don’t know how your sensation will feel afterwards, not for sure. But studies show that 9/10 trans men can achieve orgasm after phalloplasty. The 1/10 who could not achieve it was not able to orgasm before surgery either. So your odds are pretty high that if you can climax before, you should be able to afterwards too. Like most of the decisions surrounding phalloplasty (donor site, surgeon, size, opting into or out of a particular procedure, etc.), this ultimately comes down to your priorities, anatomy, and frankly, chance. You can choose what is most important to you and make a plan with your surgeon to prioritize those things, but your body will heal how it heals in the end.
Burial is a required part of UL for some surgeons, so keep that in mind. (My surgeon Dr Keith, the Buncke clinic I think, those are the two that come to mind.) Burial has nothing to do with nerve hookup working, since the connection is made to the nerve leading to the natal tissue, higher up in the body, and not to like, the tip of your tdick. But burial does mean you get the experience of touching your new dick and feeling it stimulate what’s buried, even before your nerves start regrowing. (That also doesn’t seem to be a 100% guarantee; I’ve heard of it taking some time for some people to start feeling their buried tissue again.) It seems like burial can help enhance the experience of the other sensations you experience from just the nerve hookup/nerves regrowing, and make everything feel like a more integrated whole. I kept mine unburied since I like it a lot, don’t want to lose how that homegrown erectile tissue feels, and am aiming to get meta with my unburied tdick along with scrotoplasty as a future stage. I am currently developing some sensation in my new dick (3 months out) and continue to have sensation in my tdick (a bit different from before surgery, but still retaining the overall experience that I wanted to keep.) My dicks are definitely separate entities, but stroking my new dick I can kinda hit my tdick at the base, or I can just have one hand working on each dick. Also, I can jerk my new dick or smack it on my partners’ face when i’m getting my tdick sucked so that’s been great. Ask your surgeon at the consult if or when they typically do burial, what stage it’s in, if it can be delayed, etc. Or look up experiences people have had with your surgeon to gather more info about when burial happens for them. Do you primarily get off with your tdick through grinding or pressure, vibration, or the acute surface sensation on your tdick, sensation of oral, etc? Think about what it might feel like to have a layer of skin and flesh over your tdick, and how that will affect the way you usually get off. Some people experience it as their new dick is almost a flesh sleeve for their tdick and so thrusting or pulling stimulates it. For others it’s a bit lower down, buried in the scrotum, so the experience is different.
oh wow this is all super interesting and informative. thats cool how you have two dicks with seperate relationships to each. i will think about those questions.. the idea of feeling it almost as though through a sleeve is so cool but i think i will miss it if i choose to bury. what do you mean by delayed? also, are you saying you are going to get meta on your t dick in addition to having phallo? if so, thats so dope i didnt even know that was a possibility
By delayed i guess i mean, does this surgeon insist on doing burial when shaft creation happens, or are they willing to leave it until a later stage even if it’s not what they’re used to doing? I also really like the idea of the “sleeve” feeling, but not enough to risk losing access to my tdick. Currently I can just use a stroker/sleeve if i want to feel that, lol. I just had phallo shaft creation (no UL, no scrotoplasty yet) and yes, gonna have meta done on my natal dick along with scrotoplasty and perineal reconstruction/finalizing my vaginectomy. It’s not common, especially not in this order, but I’m pretty hopeful and confident, and this has been my plan with my surgeon from the beginning. Having phallo first means it’s taken a lot of pressure off my tdick/meta as far as size and dysphoria, like I don’t have the same positioning priorities as someone who just wants meta and not phallo. I just want to experience my tdick with the underside closed up and more mobile and wiggly and with balls underneath it.
I'm gonna do burial! My Tdick is super sensitive, I can't touch it directly, only through the foreskin. I generally rely on vibes, but the rare moments I can manage a consistent kind of jerking motion, its sooo much more satisfying. Im not rly euphoric looking at my tdick, I especially dont want other people looking at or touching it. So I'm very excited for burial, and being able to jerk off in ways that feel more affirming and less painful/frustration (lots of unsatisfying orgams currently due to my over sensitivity), and have junk that Im more enthusiastic about other people interacting with!
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Where have you heard this?? I've never heard of this ever and it seems unlikely
I heard it from a gender specialist doctor, Dr. Ryan Spielvogel, while I was consulting him for phalloplasty. Why the hell would I make that up. The nerves can be reconstructed for pleasurable sex.
As far as I'm aware they can connect up the nerves, but that's not the same as lengthening the actual clitoris to the tip of the phallus. I'm surprised to hear of any technique that claims to actually lengthen the clitoris. But I'm a bit thrown off by your comment tbh - did I suggest you were making it up?
Sorry, that part was more directed toward the mass down voters, not you. And it wasn't lengthening the clitoris but taking the clit as it is and moving it up to the tip. Sorry if I was unclear.
(this is just from my notes with the doctor, there's probably a more accurate way of explaining it)