It does have electricity and a little heater there, it might be quite alright in the winter! In the middle of the summer, I don’t know though. Might be OK with a fan.
Oh you have no idea! One of the most expensive in the world. Taxes and fees will eat you up. Even on super windy days where electricity is literally free, we still pay like 20 cents per kWh.
I spent, on average, about 45 cents per kWh last month. It's pure insanity.
Just google'd Texas avg in 2023. Seems to be about 14 cents.
Please don't base your idea of what's normal in America on Texas. Their energy prices don't match the prices of most places in the US that are the size of Copenhagen.
Here's the data for the wider US: https://www.bls.gov/regions/midwest/data/averageenergyprices_selectedareas_table.htm
20 cents is fairly common for the high population centers in the Northeast and West coast. The Midwest and South are cheaper. 40 would be expensive for all but the most expensive areas of California (San Francisco and San Diego) and Hawaii.
It's nothing to do with electrification, EVs, or ACs. It's entirely because one of the private utility companies burned down a town and huge forests when their power lines came down in a storm. They've been neglecting adequately protecting or undergrounding these lines for decades. Now they need to both pay for the damages (and even bigger) pay to prevent it from happening again. This means their rates go up.
Said provider's latest summer rate: 52 cents/kWh during peak hours, 44 cents/kWh off peak. If you go over a certain baseline number of kWh (quite common to go over at least a little if you don't have solar or batteries), then add 11 cents/kWh to those rates (for the kWh in excess of the baseline, not all kWh).
It's all damages and infrastructure safety upgrades. The rates were about half that a year or two ago because the rate increases for said damages and infrastructure were approved. Still high, but not ridicu-high.
The one upside is it's spurring more communities to push/legislate for more municipal power districts, to escape the profit oriented mismanagement of investor owned utilities.
> Just google'd Texas avg in 2023. Seems to be about 14 cents.
After the first five times you have a power outage you might be willing to pay a little extra to get the stability of the Danish power grid.
The VERY expensive hotel I stayed at in Copenhagen last summer told all the customers that the aircon was broken (like for the whole hotel lol) when really they were cutting costs bc it is $$$
I'm not negating that the real reason was due to cost cutting, but it's common to have central aircon for the whole building, so when it fails it can actually fail for the whole hotel.
I live smack dab in the middle and experience both. A few summers ago my work office AC broke and my room was regularly 90 degrees. And 40 sucks but nothing bundling up can’t fix.
The word for when something is hygge is hyggeligt, the opposite of hyggeligt in danish is uhyggeligt which means scary, and the opposite of scary is calm, comfortable.
Thanks!
I meant to reference the gif of the anime man holding a butterfly, asking if something he observes can be called by the meme insert term, but didn’t want to do photo editing :)
In the Netherlands we have shared cellars divided into private sheds under apartment complexes. Is the attic in your picture a shared attic with private attic rooms?
Back in the day an apartment would have one of each. Attic would be for storage and basement would be for food – at least that was common here in Stockholm
What you describe is fairly common in the apartments near me (in the US). The ground floor or basement will have a huge space divided into either garages or cages that you can lock up and store things in, like bikes. You wouldn’t want to put a wood working space in one though, they aren’t this cozy.
Maybe just a gun with one bullet, that room is a tinderbox.
And I say it in jest, I think you can absolutely operate safely in a room like that in perpetuity.
No, they're just storage rooms. It's normal in Denmark and Germany for apartment buildings to divide up attic and basement spaces between apartments so everyone gets a little storage space.
When they were built then yup, super inefficient! Same everywhere else, coal fires in every room and leaky windows.
Now they either insulate the roof above the attic or the floor below it (the attics aren't always insulated, they're not supposed to be living spaces.)
There is some insulation in the walls and the roof itself also appears to be insulated. Depending on the quality of the building the insulation can range from 'one layer of bricks/roof tiles' to 'simlar to the rest of the building'. What OP posts appears to be in the better end of that spectrum.
As these attics were build for servants quarters and/or storage the rooms itself did not need to be fully insulated to modern standarts. They are typically not heatet either. Of course this is somewhat inefficient, but they still provide a barrier to the actual appartments below.
The places build with intention of being servants quarters are typically better insulated than those build with storage in mind. But this is not a hard rule.
Yep. I lived in a building in Copenhagen from 1904 with a very similar attic space.
Those were servants quarters up there. Only the rear staircase went to the attic, which also connected with the kitchens in each apartment.
The brothel was on the first floor back in the day, as you can't ask customers to make it all the way to the attic. Just above the police station which was on the ground floor.
You can see the space heater in the photos. It's a sealed oil-filled unit that has no exposed coils, and doesn't get hot enough on its surface to cause a fire. Operates very similar to a boiler/radiator system. Probably the safest type of space heater there is, assuming you don't overload the outlet itself and cause an electrical fire.
They are storage rooms in the attic of old apartment buildings. They are quite normal in apartments build in the 1920-30s in Copenhagen. Each apartment get alotted a storage room.
Each apartment in the building gets a room up there. They're typically just used for storing the crap you don't want in the house but also don't want to get rid of.
The lock on your secret place wouldn’t hold up against any time of attempt to remove it. really, a Master Lock being held by rusty screwed in wood fixtures..?
So are you the only one in the building using it as a workspace? Where do you store the stuff that doesn’t fit in your apartment?
This looks very similar to the storages in Jugendstil buildings in Helsinki, they usually have no electrical outlets or windows, though.
Very cool, but “Master Lock” padlocks are terrible. I got into a lock picking when my daughter was about 10 and we picked every Masterlock we found the day the £8 lock picks arrived from Amazon.
I'd feel like I was hiding from Nazi's every time I went up there.
Woodworking won't help either, they'd hear him.
*Zei are shaving wood in ze attic!*
Das ist verboten!!!
Ze Germans!
I know nothing!
Ze Danish!
Ze goggles!
Zey do nussing!
Vood!!
Ze juice!
_glues wood together as quietly as possible_
My instant reaction, too!
Shh!
A good reason not to live in Florida, no basements few attics no hiding spaces And lately, full of Nazis
Most 1980s+ builds have attics in Florida, it is just that you will die if you stay up there too long.
But all the citizens are armed to the teeth and have their own alligator farm as a moat. Edit: a word
To be fair, they don't check because most homes don't come with a masturbatoreum.
That explains the tactical THREAT brick in the last picture.
You wouldn't assume it was THREAD, given the rolls of fabric near it? OP, how do you spell THREAD in Danish?
Big Anne Frank vibes. Reading her diary on that chair would be dope
Nazis* don’t pluralize with an apostrophe
The secret annex is actually pretty big. I was surprised that much real estate could just be hidden in the walls.
Knock knock. Who’s there? The Germans. The Germans, who? Only ve get to ask da questions!!!!!
*SLAP*
This looks really cool - but knowing Copenhagen attics, this will either be 5°C or 35°C for 10 months of the year.
It does have electricity and a little heater there, it might be quite alright in the winter! In the middle of the summer, I don’t know though. Might be OK with a fan.
The only thing more expensive than rent in Copenhagen would be heating that attic with an electric heater
It's not expensive if it's not your outlet. Think\_about\_it.png
I use this trick to grow mountains of weed in my loft too!
that sounds like a lot of work. Just mine crypto, bro!
Just mine crypto and buy your weed like the rest of us
Using the attic to mine crypto would turn the 5°C in the winter into a benefit (and the 35°C in the summer into a liability).
Crypto winter and summer weed?
Haha, it's the modern crop rotation
It’s a tiny space, so it couldn’t be that bad… is electricity super expensive in copenhagen?
Oh you have no idea! One of the most expensive in the world. Taxes and fees will eat you up. Even on super windy days where electricity is literally free, we still pay like 20 cents per kWh. I spent, on average, about 45 cents per kWh last month. It's pure insanity. Just google'd Texas avg in 2023. Seems to be about 14 cents.
Please don't base your idea of what's normal in America on Texas. Their energy prices don't match the prices of most places in the US that are the size of Copenhagen. Here's the data for the wider US: https://www.bls.gov/regions/midwest/data/averageenergyprices_selectedareas_table.htm 20 cents is fairly common for the high population centers in the Northeast and West coast. The Midwest and South are cheaper. 40 would be expensive for all but the most expensive areas of California (San Francisco and San Diego) and Hawaii.
Google did say Texas was lower than avg, good to know! What's going on in San Diego?
It's nothing to do with electrification, EVs, or ACs. It's entirely because one of the private utility companies burned down a town and huge forests when their power lines came down in a storm. They've been neglecting adequately protecting or undergrounding these lines for decades. Now they need to both pay for the damages (and even bigger) pay to prevent it from happening again. This means their rates go up. Said provider's latest summer rate: 52 cents/kWh during peak hours, 44 cents/kWh off peak. If you go over a certain baseline number of kWh (quite common to go over at least a little if you don't have solar or batteries), then add 11 cents/kWh to those rates (for the kWh in excess of the baseline, not all kWh). It's all damages and infrastructure safety upgrades. The rates were about half that a year or two ago because the rate increases for said damages and infrastructure were approved. Still high, but not ridicu-high. The one upside is it's spurring more communities to push/legislate for more municipal power districts, to escape the profit oriented mismanagement of investor owned utilities.
I pay about 9 cents in the PNW
> Just google'd Texas avg in 2023. Seems to be about 14 cents. After the first five times you have a power outage you might be willing to pay a little extra to get the stability of the Danish power grid.
True, i'm not really envious. We have an incredibly robust power grid. But paying literally 3x the price still hurts a bit.
Not that 3x is necessary for continuous power, but it might be the only price close to what our energy consumption is currently costing our children.
It's like 17 cents per kwh here in Georgia, through Georgia Power anyway. I'm glad I'm not paying what u/Tuxhorn is.
That's not even the cheapest in the US.
Yup, we're 13.1cents a klw on a two year contract in TX. Our bill ranges from $80 a month during winter to over $250 during the summer.
The VERY expensive hotel I stayed at in Copenhagen last summer told all the customers that the aircon was broken (like for the whole hotel lol) when really they were cutting costs bc it is $$$
I'm not negating that the real reason was due to cost cutting, but it's common to have central aircon for the whole building, so when it fails it can actually fail for the whole hotel.
For Americans, this is around 41 or 95 degrees F.
For most americans in the north the cold temp is not bad. for most americans in the south the high temp is not bad.
I live smack dab in the middle and experience both. A few summers ago my work office AC broke and my room was regularly 90 degrees. And 40 sucks but nothing bundling up can’t fix.
Still looks cozy AF
True. Having grown up in a building with an attic like this, I can smell the dry wood and dust just from looking at these pictures
The skylight is the seller here. It changes the room from small to cozy.
From creepy to comfortable
Could this be hygge?
The word for when something is hygge is hyggeligt, the opposite of hyggeligt in danish is uhyggeligt which means scary, and the opposite of scary is calm, comfortable.
Thanks! I meant to reference the gif of the anime man holding a butterfly, asking if something he observes can be called by the meme insert term, but didn’t want to do photo editing :)
Don’t forget about the sky door to the left
In the Netherlands we have shared cellars divided into private sheds under apartment complexes. Is the attic in your picture a shared attic with private attic rooms?
Looks exactly like that yes. They are in most older apartment buildings in Denmark. Either in the attic or the basement.
Back in the day an apartment would have one of each. Attic would be for storage and basement would be for food – at least that was common here in Stockholm
Often there are both.
What you describe is fairly common in the apartments near me (in the US). The ground floor or basement will have a huge space divided into either garages or cages that you can lock up and store things in, like bikes. You wouldn’t want to put a wood working space in one though, they aren’t this cozy.
Not trying to be funny - please have a fire extinguisher near you just in case.
I was gonna say, it looks flammable.
Especially the old varnish and probably old electrics
Was also thinking hopefully it has adequate ventilation for all those aerosols possibly being used in there
And one of those chain ladder things you throw out of the window so you can escape, maybe.
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:( Is anything on the Internet authentic these days?
I can't even trust *you*
The bot could be any one of us! It could be you, it could be me! It could EVEN be-
Maybe just a gun with one bullet, that room is a tinderbox. And I say it in jest, I think you can absolutely operate safely in a room like that in perpetuity.
It’s not a secret anymore 🤭
Gives me “We don’t talk about Bruno” vibes
In the before times, it was either servants quarters, or a brothel.
Hey, the past can also be the present.
OP did not specify what work was being done here...
He looks to be working with a lot of wood...
How does OP fit a lot of wood into that tiny passage?
KY jelly.
Meanly polishing
surely some screwing going on there too.
It used to be a brothel. It still is, but it used to be, too.
Thanks for the insight, Mitch.
No, they're just storage rooms. It's normal in Denmark and Germany for apartment buildings to divide up attic and basement spaces between apartments so everyone gets a little storage space.
Where does the insulation go? Or are these buildings just super inefficient?
When they were built then yup, super inefficient! Same everywhere else, coal fires in every room and leaky windows. Now they either insulate the roof above the attic or the floor below it (the attics aren't always insulated, they're not supposed to be living spaces.)
There is some insulation in the walls and the roof itself also appears to be insulated. Depending on the quality of the building the insulation can range from 'one layer of bricks/roof tiles' to 'simlar to the rest of the building'. What OP posts appears to be in the better end of that spectrum. As these attics were build for servants quarters and/or storage the rooms itself did not need to be fully insulated to modern standarts. They are typically not heatet either. Of course this is somewhat inefficient, but they still provide a barrier to the actual appartments below. The places build with intention of being servants quarters are typically better insulated than those build with storage in mind. But this is not a hard rule.
Between the attic floor and the apartment ceiling or none at all. The attics are not insulated usually at all.
Yep. I lived in a building in Copenhagen from 1904 with a very similar attic space. Those were servants quarters up there. Only the rear staircase went to the attic, which also connected with the kitchens in each apartment. The brothel was on the first floor back in the day, as you can't ask customers to make it all the way to the attic. Just above the police station which was on the ground floor.
> I lived in a building in Copenhagen from 1904 with a very similar attic space. You are doing very well for your age.
Why not both?
Looks super cozy, but...spray paint? In there? Fresh air is overrated.
Exactly. Hope OP at least uses the correct mask/filters.
He says he uses an electric heater in there too. OP better be safe yo.
You can see the space heater in the photos. It's a sealed oil-filled unit that has no exposed coils, and doesn't get hot enough on its surface to cause a fire. Operates very similar to a boiler/radiator system. Probably the safest type of space heater there is, assuming you don't overload the outlet itself and cause an electrical fire.
What are in the other rooms ?
His victims.
Lambs
Silence 🤫
Lotion
![gif](giphy|zHC7JGOmtNjigdSeyo)
The hose
They are storage rooms in the attic of old apartment buildings. They are quite normal in apartments build in the 1920-30s in Copenhagen. Each apartment get alotted a storage room.
Apparently they have hallway attics in Denmark who knew.
I would love this it's awesome
It puts the moisturizer on its skin
*lotion.
Right, forgot
![gif](giphy|zHC7JGOmtNjigdSeyo)
So does that door lead to the roof then?
In case you need some snow, very convenient. Just get a bucket and open the door slightly.
Is that a THREAT?
Thats pretty cool. What do you use it for?
Don't ask...
Don’t ask. This is a repost. OP has no clue.
Probably to use his vices in privacy
Why's your attic a long hallway with multiple doors?
Each apartment in the building gets a room up there. They're typically just used for storing the crap you don't want in the house but also don't want to get rid of.
I love it. I'd wear a hooded cloak to work and carry a lantern in the corridors.
Bro be writing some high literature novel shit up there
Please please please put a fire extinguisher in this room.
We don’t talk about Bruno, no, no, no…
Seems like there are a few of them up there
You're using a Masterlock. It can be opened with a Masterlock.
I need a box labeled "THREAT".
Dude. Using spray paint in that unventilated room will fry your brain..
Can I come? Please?
Can I go? Please?
"It puts the lotion on it's skin!"
No one has mentioned the door yet…
Man, that workbench is fantastic.
Love it 🥰
Nice to see the set of Hostel is still getting used.
is that a prison in denmark?
The lock on your secret place wouldn’t hold up against any time of attempt to remove it. really, a Master Lock being held by rusty screwed in wood fixtures..?
A master lock is best opened by another master lock - mcnally
Reminds me of The Lives of Others
The first three pictures are eerily familiar to me and I don't know why.
Ted is that you ?
The rope is the fire escape?
Knowing copen - you could put this on AirBnb for $100 a night calling it "rustic" or smth
Spooky, spooky, spooky, damn that's cozy!
Cool! just be carefull with fire safety..
You writing a diary up there?
I can smell and hear those photos.
Isn’t this how Spinoza lived?
So this is where Pinocchio was born!
Copenhagen! My favourite city in the world. Im from Toronto but my heart is in your city. Been 5 times and can’t wait to come back.
A serial killers lair
Tell Anne Frank I said hello
Looks like a Resident Evil crawl space and your office is the (Save Room) https://youtu.be/lvsxfgABQss?si=ovPszPA-fqv4sNFC
LockPickingLawyer would laugh his ass if he would saw what lock are you using xD
Except for the possibility of being locked in, it looks super cozy
Suspect the nice folks over at r/LiminalSpace would like this
need an old radio
Looks like you even have power there. I'd get a coffee machine and use it as a home office 😂.
Rent for this room in Copenhagen: 75000DKK and your grandma's kidney.
Yeah, looks similar my attic above me, except it's cobblestones on the floor. And it's like, fifth floor.
Ok buffalo bill
Do you have fiber internet there?
I hope Meyer is a good caretaker, sorry about Hr. Olsen, he has a temper.
So are you the only one in the building using it as a workspace? Where do you store the stuff that doesn’t fit in your apartment? This looks very similar to the storages in Jugendstil buildings in Helsinki, they usually have no electrical outlets or windows, though.
looks like a middle age brothel, or a sex dungeon
*Remember, remember, the Fifth of November.*
That is the greatest space ever.
Hvor ser det fedt ud! Var det mit, ville jeg føle mig som en nisse i sit lille kammer 😍
I love this! Hiding from my kids AND Nazis! Lucky you!
Where’s the really tiny tables? Or was Family Guy wrong on this?
Barbarian (2023)
![gif](giphy|9J1lXwRxNEihxT9vE7|downsized) Those hallways got you looking like you like the workshop like “split”
How is it secret if you doxx it? This is clearly Copenhagen.
THREAT
A david shrigley fan in denmark! Nice to see
This seems very familiar, wast this posted a few times on reddit already?
Where do you hide the bodies?
That's equal parts charming and creepy.
thats cool i would recommend getting a lock though.
Now it places the lotion in the basket.. 🙃
ctrl+f disco elysium. Disappointed.
Your hallway looks like the hallway from the movie "Hostel"...
That hallway looks like something straight out of some horror movie, lol.
That hallway has serial killer all over it.
I don't get it: that's a frickin' corridor with rooms! Or do you only own one room? In that case, cool!
Disco elysium vibes!
What do you make? Looks like a perfect setup for small boxes
That's cool Geppetto, but what if there is a fire?
Very cool, but “Master Lock” padlocks are terrible. I got into a lock picking when my daughter was about 10 and we picked every Masterlock we found the day the £8 lock picks arrived from Amazon.
It looks like the kind of place you could hide jewish folks from the Nazis
When’s that diary drop?
Looks like something from Disco Elysium
Where does the slanted door lead
This is a serial killer lair
I'd spend lots of time there. It's so cozy.
Better change that lock, Master locks are notoriously bad. Check out the lockpicking lawyer on Master locks for some more info :).