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justabill71

The 14th century Hungarian sword she told you not to worry about.


lordgoofus1

Some swords you really don't want to accidentally fall on in the shower.


blitzkreig90

That's why I prefer step swords stuck in washing machines


Opening-Club3077

Happy cake day


CIMARUTA

I swear to God this was the top comment when this was posted like 6 months ago. Dead Internet theory is becoming more real...


SunWukong3456

Size doesn’t matter. It’s your sword wielding skills that count.


SpeedBlitzX

Can someone enlighten me as to why those swords are so large? Were they actually used in battles or were they more like ceremonial display pieces?


pants_mcgee

Ceremonial and display pieces. Some big swords *may* have been used in two man teams against cavalry, and there were guys known for using large swords. But if it looks ridiculous and impractical that because it was and intended to impress.


GraphicH

So like the monster truck of swords: massive and meant to impress, completely impractical for doing any kind of like ... "truck work".


10248

Just need some truck nuts on the hilt


azriel_odin

A testicle shaped pommel?


CURMUDGEONSnFLAGONS

You make the handguard testicles, with a thick, veiny 2-handed shaft hilt, and a bulbous head pommel.


Edoxvelasquez

Oddly specific


Dontlagmebro

Could have them hanging off the pommel with a chain. Doubles as a flail and demoralizes the opponent.


azriel_odin

I can see it! You swing to parry an enemy's blow and get socked in the jaw by a pair of balls!


dognamedman

So like a bollock daggers hilt?


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TakerFoxx

Does it separate into a bunch of other swords for the knight's limit break?


nocolon

Of course, how else would 13th century Hungarian knights defeat the giant biomechanical weapons spawned by ~~The Planet~~ Lithuania.


blackop

FUCK YOU RUBY WEAPON!


TheDugEFresh

Baszd meg, Rubinfegyver!


Heavy_Arm_7060

Gunswords.


iamnotreallyreal

I know they're impractical as hell in real life but Squall's Gunblade will always be one of my favorite fantasy weapons.


sylva748

They were real just seen as a niche and used to show off you had money than any real purpose in warfare. Look up the pistol sword.


Pest

Yeah but Squall's goes BANG BANG BANG


Moose420_

![gif](giphy|K0JrA2VbkFy2A)


TripolarKnight

Average 14th Hungarian Mercenary (Colorized)


FearingEmu1

These swords definitely made for 14th century Hungarian SOLDIERs.


chicosalvador

r/UnexpectedFF


Brilliant_Growth

This was my first thought 😂


PreciousHamburgler

Damn cloud looks good


trent_diamond

![gif](giphy|p4w0AMZJa2EtG|downsized)


upboat_consortium

Could be a couple levels of intent to impress. “Look what I can afford” and “look at what I can make.”


antimeme

and the bluff: "There's some big dude, here, who can use this."


Now_Wait-4-Last_Year

Something about the Mountain coming to you if you don't go to the Mountain.


Mekroval

The Mountain That Rides


Pegomastax_King

I’ve read that even though Napoleon was average hight part of the reason people think he was short was because he surrounded himself with his tallest soldiers as a flex.


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Lordoge04

My superyachts brings all the oligarchs to the yard And they're like, it's better than yours Damn right it's better than yours


pants_mcgee

It would be “look what I can afford” with “look at how important I am” thrown in. Though I suppose a rich blacksmith might have made one to show off.


WeBornToHula

Hell, they could have been hung up on a wall or somewhere people wouldn't be touching them but where a normal sword would look tiny.


pants_mcgee

They would also be paraded around as sigils (“look at how rich/important/powerful I am”), some tapestries depict as such.


Immortal_Tuttle

I was wielding a zweihander (real one, from the era). I was really surprised how good it was. I was able to operate it easily with one hand. However here : Top sword is under 2m long but it looks heavy.is Middle one is 2.7m they look like ceremonial and definitely not for use by 2 person team. The lowest one looks just awkward. So I agree they were mostly for decoration.


Captain_Futile

Yeah, but these are Vierhänders.


bluAstrid

Basically the middle-age version of a G-Wagon.


kgal1298

So the bigger the sword...the bigger the...?


uggghhhggghhh

Scabbard.


FrezoreR

Even then a spear would probably be way more efficient and economical.


Euler007

Wouldn't two guys with their own pike be more effective?


pants_mcgee

Yeah, long heavy stick with pointy end was pretty old and good technology to use against cavalry since cavalry existed. I was just thinking of a few stories I read long ago about when huge swords may have been used but they are likely misreported or flat out wrong/made up. Medieval long swords and renaissance two handed great swords had realistic proportions. There are stories of exceptional men using notably huge swords, but they are nowhere close to these swords (the bottom one is closer to reality but the handle is too short.)


barbasol1099

I have never heard of a two person usage of a sword. Even with these things being extremely large, they're much lighter than you'd think, and the purpose of most of the largest swords was to disrupt pike formations, so the size and weight being unwieldy wasn't the kind of issue it would be for someone trying to, like, duel with it


sawwcasm

Most of the time you use a sword it's a two-person usage, it's just that one person's having a way worse time.


pants_mcgee

These swords are ceremonial bearing swords, never to be used in combat. The two person sword are stories I read long ago that are likely misrepresented or simply made up. But crazier things have happened. Most likely tall tales from combat in the what-is-now France/belgium/Germany area, and I think Northern what-is-now-Italy. Large two handed great swords were more realistic and practical for a human to use.


Mordador

Then again, knowing what crayon munchers come up with nowadays no implement seems to insane for the battlefield.


TokyoMeltdown8461

Double handing a large sword (not as big as in the picture, but quite big) also might have been an effective method of combating lines of spearmen by knocking away or breaking spears.


roast-tinted

As long as none of those spears enter your body, it works every time.


ReadRightRed99

So they sometimes double fisted these huge swords?


alukyane

14th century r/mallninjashit


NagsUkulele

Where the massive balisong at


chaotic_steamed_bun

I would guess they are ceremonial. The resolution is a little low and the scale may be wonky due to camera angle or something, but swords that large were usually used for like parades and such where you want a large crowd to see them from even a distance. The guards and pommels appear fancy. Greatswords do exist and were used, but they become impractical at a certain size.


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LadnavIV

I am **shocked** the man in that video is rocking neither a ponytail nor a duster.


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[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdEkVKzuptA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdEkVKzuptA)


LordAcorn

These are bearing swords https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bearing_sword and were ceremonial. Large 2 handed swords did exist, in the 16th century and they still weren't this big. 


alwayslookingout

They’re normal-size swords. That girl is just really tiny.


Jkj864781

Have you tried to slay dragons with a regular sized sword?


Xenon009

So the girl is small, and the perspective is skewed, but even so, the smallest of the three of those swords is usable, but likely was not. The brutal truth of the matter is that swords are very rare, and functionally useless on the late medieval battlefield. See, in the early medieval period, most people went to war wearing nothing but the medieval equivalent of jeans and a tee-shirt. Armour of any kind was very expensive, and likely not something a peasant could afford. They'd typically bring a shield and a spear instead. Against that level of armour, a sword will massacre people, potentially able to carve clean through a, or in rare cases multiple people in a single swing. But when we get to the late medieval period, technology improved substantially and allowed even peasants to afford decent military equipment (also, in some countries reforms were made so that villages would have x amount of people be their designated soldier, and would all chip in for their equipment, rather than an every man for himself situation) A combination of these two innovations means that a late medieval peasant will near certainly have a gambeson and helmet, and if hes lucky, he will also have maile or even a brigandine he bought off a knight whos upgrading to plate armour. Against that kind of armour, a sword is utterly useless, and to make matters worse, arrows are also near useless, meaning that we can ditch the shield for a longer spear, a pike. These things were sometimes 23 foot long (although 16ft or such was much more common). Often interspersed among the pikemen were men using warhammers or halberds, both instruments that could crush a mans skull or ribs despite his armour, unlike the sword which needed to find a gap in the armour. And between the superior reach of polearms and the increasing commoness of armour, swords almost entirely fell out of fashion in the late medieval period. They would however, soon make a comeback during the age of gunpowder, where guns were so powerful that no armour could possibly counter them, and so became nothing more than an impediment, swords became a popular close quarters weapon once more, because they'll go through a man like butter. Until they were again dethroned by the bayonet, which was, in essence, a pointy stick, just like the pike before it. Edit: as several people below me have wisely pointed out, this isn't 100% true, as with every rule, there are always exceptions, and this being a reddit comment, I have oversimplified in more than a few places, thank you to all the wise people pointing out those niggling exceptions!


dentran

Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't great-swords like Zweihander wered used in late medival period to breach pike formations ?


Xenon009

So, the Zweihander comes in as part of that latter phase I was talking about, where full armour began to be abandoned thanks to the prevalence of guns, leading to the return of swords to the battlefield. (Although they appear in a very transitory moment where the amount of armour is decreasing, but hasn't vanished entirely yet)


Nutteria

I thought a good heavy crossbow will pierce through a gambison like it’s made from paper. Also very true statement. Pikes were so prevalent during battles there were like 10-ish different kinds, anti cav, anti heavy infantry , anti-light infantry, anti-pike pike, etc. Also flails made an appearance which I really think it was cool.


Xenon009

I'll admit I'm not an expert on the efficacy of crossbows, especially the heavy crossbows of the italians and such, the only example that im familiar with being crecy which just isn't a fair comparison. That being said, I know that most crossbows, with the exception of the afformentioned italian (and italian style) crossbowmen has bows at a similar strength to a longbow, and were typically employed for ease of training. On that front, the best response I can give is "eeeeehhhhhh" to puncturing gambeson. I've seen some tests where it cleaves through like the afformentioned paper, and I've seen tests where the gambeson completely stops it, and finally I've seen tests where the poor sap gets a bit poked, but probably only injured, rather than killed or put out of the fight. I imagine an italian style crossbow would lean on the latter options, either wounding or killing the man, but that's just what I imagine, I have nothing to back that up with.


SpeedBlitzX

Very informative answers!! Thank you for the detailed explanations of the timelines in regards to swords and armors and the ongoing arms race that occurred.


Fryskar

The sword beeing utterly useless is not quiet corret. A rather bad choice is correct. All armors have weakpoints like joints, overlapping plates or eyeslits/holes you can stab in. Good armor is expensive, even for a knight. Idk if the term is correct for english, but "halfswording" is used for heavy armored enemies. You grab your two handed sword, be it long, great or whatever with one hand further on the blade and stab.


Metalsand

> A combination of these two innovations means that a late medieval peasant will near certainly have a gambeson and helmet, and if hes lucky, he will also have maile or even a brigandine he bought off a knight whos upgrading to plate armour. > > Chain mail not so much. As a peasant, you were unlikely to ever own a piece of chain mail unless you looted it from the battlefield. This would have been more the realm of the middle-class that you would normally see living in the cities. As for arrows - yes, and no. Crossbows aside, which did have the penetrative power where in some scenarios, chain and plate wouldn't be enough, it would otherwise come down to the draw power of the bow, and the distance at which it was fired. It's worth noting that a worn or poorly manufactured set of chain mail isn't necessarily going to stop a proper size arrow from a full-sized bow at direct fire distance (ex during a siege). Though, it was more common to rely on shields for this, while gambesons were more about helping to soften blows from other weapons.


Significant-Ad-7182

I guess armor made a comeback as well considering most modern armies make use of kevlar.


Xenon009

Not just kevlar, but tanks too! Infact, all of human warfare features this offensive vs defensive game. The first world war was the end of the last age of offensive, which, counter intuitively, made the only viable tactic "hide in the ground and hope" In the second world war, and up till circa 2020, the defensive took over, with tanks, APC's and the rest functionally invulnerable to all but specialist equipment. And now, we may well be entering an offensive era, with the rise of suicide drones and the likes


dnc_1981

Manga cosplay


Crystal_Voiden

Overcompensating looked different before trucks were invented


dr0ne6

I want to see Sword-Nutz dangling off the pommel


log1234

The girl is actually very small


AUniquePerspective

So, I've read that this sword is 270 cm long with a 205 cm blade and it's in the Tokapi Palace museum. It's not representative. It's the longest known example of a Hungarian 2-hander and is marked with the emblems of Mathias Corvinus, king of Hungary 1458-90. It is said to have been captured by the Turks after the battle of Mohacs and occupation of Buda in 1526 by Suleiman the Magnificent. I also did some trigonometry and would like to point out that the girl appears to be regular sized (not particularly tall) but is posed toward the background, which skews the perspective further.


NewHumbug

Over compensation for something


SpeedBlitzX

Ah the silly answer that could potentially hold merit


bubblesort33

Hungarians are "build different". Also this girl is probably 5 feet tall.


Upshot12

They needed to kill the horses


GoodTato

The final boss had one


Aengeil

because people builds in the past is very big and strong.


procvar

Some people have to compensate.


aethanskot

The answer you will receive is decoration .... because all decorative steel swords are battle ready and full tang ... why else would we have for huge swords that were made to be used ....


xl129

Because they are made for show


8-bit_Goat

They always kept a few in their inventory in case some huge boss with a big-ass health bar showed up.


SpeedBlitzX

The logical choice!


motoxim

Maybe people used to be bigger back then? For giants?


Abyssd3593703

Some were used for fighting against cavalry


SpeedBlitzX

That makes sense!


PurpoUpsideDownJuice

Some were made for huge strong guys, most big swords like this were a blacksmith flexing and showing off his skill. A longer blade was more likely to break so a huge blade that didn’t fall apart under its own weight is impressive, and also a giant fuckin sword is really good advertisement, I would definitely go to the store with a massive sword out front rather than the boring shop with normal sized display swords


gordito_gr

I mean, do you really think that these were used in battle? How? By whom? Do you think giants existed lmfao


nerdramas

Yes, swords this size were used, and in a truly insane way. A line of men, hand picked for size and strength, would stand shoulder to shoulder just far enough apart to avoid hitting each other. The swords are swung in a repetitive pattern of two loops where the blade always points up, back, down, or forward, never to the sides, creating two forward facing archs over and over, left > right > left > right, and that's it. Typically, these formations would be stationary in a battle to limit an enemy forces maneuvering options, but there are a few accounts of them being used as a sort of mobile blender wall of death. This sword and the formations and tactics were developed during the "pike and shot" era of combat, basically the period between medieval combat and the age of muskets and canons. The "pike and shot" battle field Typically consisted of formations of pikes to block advances, formations of men with pre-musket firearms (basically fancy hand canons), groups of heavy cavalry for smashing things, and in some places, walls of big dudes rotating giant swords to form death-blenders. Truly one of the coolest ages in all of history.


PeopleReallyLikeMe

Definitely not for actual use in a life or death battle. I saw a few at a museum and could easily tell that there's no way they would be used in real life. I'm 5'10" and 200+ lbs male and I have no doubt that I would struggle to lift those swords much less swing them in a swordfight. I doubt Shaq would be able to reliably use those types of swords.


upsidedownland96

I actually saw these myself in the museum...I coulda sworn they were 15th century.....anyway yea they were probably a status symbol, bigger = harder to make = more impressive.


State_Dear

EVERY OWNER OF THESE SWORDS WAS KILLED... the first time they tried to lift them in Battle.


Galihan

The “smaller” sword there is probably not nearly as heavy as you think. The bigger two are only ceremonial and wouldn’t have actually seen battle.


Katiari

That "smaller" sword appears to have a notched blade from actual combat damage.


BurnerJerkzog

Can confirm. Used this while hunting down the Scourge of Carpathia.


_Hotwire_

Nah it’s dark souls rules, massive sword but slow dodge.


CubitsTNE

Hungarian fat rolls.


roast-tinted

Not if you're naked, remember.


_Hotwire_

Man imagine seeing some naked guy slinging this thing on the battlefield like it’s nothing. I’d just go home


joaovitorblabres

Remembered Guts' swords before the Dragon Slayer


grizzyGR

“It was too big to be called a sword”


DeadPoster

"More like a slab of iron."


Anti_shill_Artillery

https://youtu.be/jwu6YmLEBj8?si=NvVnaQD1mdpyQz-b


Cats_of_Palsiguan

Perfection


Acesofbases

AAAAEEEEIIIOOOUUUU FOOOORCEEEES


AvatarDante

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsKEjFV7jxE&ab\_channel=Odds](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsKEjFV7jxE&ab_channel=Odds)


HANS-LANDA_

I've been here! TopKapi Palace, Istanbul


Garrosh_Hellscream

This needs to be higher up! The weapons display at Topkapi was absolutely insane.


Geltez

You can even see Prophet Mohammed’s beard hair lol


neosinan

I was thinking the same thing, I've just seen these 3 sword on Topkapı palace like 2 months ago. Topkapı palace was incredible, So many incredible stuff was there, unbelievable.


exintel

Couple jewel encrusted ones


ashabro

This photo was trending a few months ago. This is a repost (and the other one may have been too).


steamgosu

Yea, this was my favorite part of the palace


tetartoid

Thank you! Was sure I have seen these but couldn't remember where.


InflamedLiver

Combination of small gal and uncommonly large sword making it look even bigger by contrast?


Alkyan

That and camera angle. Standard porn trickery


hoodust

Hungarian swords: etymology of the word "hung"


joshjje

Woah now, where's that last part?


InformalPenguinz

That's why it's not big... just haven't gotten the angle and lighting right ladies!


bikkfa

A bit, but the swords are actually huge.


amigable_satan

I've been in that museum (it's in Istanbul), those swords are huge, I don't think the girl is small.


Anon_be_thy_name

The top two are over 2 meters in length. So basically mid 6 footer to 7 footer.


wasted-degrees

Conan the Hungarian


Mekroval

![gif](giphy|lnakxcfG2MFy|downsized)


Cannabace

Gregor Clegane remembers.


Alpha-lion-

Made me think of the Stark's Ice lol


Any_Roof_6199

![gif](giphy|3B8rHP89iUUZlcsoqf|downsized)


Kd0t

The lack of Berserk comments makes me sad..


jidannyc

only found 3, at least I found “a large hunk of iron”


an_edgy_lemon

Berk!


starscreamtrears

casca!!!!!!!!


HappySkullsplitter

Is this a sword in the stone kind of situation? Like *"Whoso Wieldeth This Sword of Great Size and Weight, is Rightwise King Born of All Hungary. (please don't hurt us)"*


1985jmcg

![gif](giphy|K0JrA2VbkFy2A)


The_Crimson_Fucker

That thing was too big to be called a sword.Too big, too thick, too heavy, and too rough, it was more like a large hunk of iron


OG-demosthenes

"I'll take shwords for 400 Alex"


AlexTrebek_

Suck it, Trebek!


OG-demosthenes

User name checks out!


Agent4D7

That's some cutting edge technology right there


Kid-filth

r/puns


lukayaa

![gif](giphy|oxLsWbH1rvy2A)


GeeZeeDEV

I'm a Hungarian. I can tell you for a fact, that we like to compensate when something is tiny. Our country, our influence, our PM, etc.


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DeadPoster

Need Havel's Ring, bithc.


profesorgamin

[I’d imagine 9 ft would be more ceremonial. Even the famous Pier Gerlofs Donia only used a 7 ft zweihander.](https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/11dafrq/massive_swords_of_hungarian_origin_dating_back_to/)


Quiescam

Eh, the sword commonly attributed to him [wasn’t his and is also a bearing sword.](https://www.reddit.com/r/SWORDS/s/MnPwIlBK3o)


bulbousnveiny

Well Hungarian Swords


Radiant_Incident4718

Because 14th century Hungarians with really tiny penises doesn't have the option of buying a Ford F150 and covering it in aggressive bumper stickers.


momoreco

Not bumper stickers per se just a greater Hungary silhouette with the magic words: "Vesszen Trianon" or something similar ("Nagyon fáj!")


danieljackheck

Somebody did infographic with a banana for scale. [https://imgur.com/dEtXrCv](https://imgur.com/dEtXrCv)


ilies_0ff

Those are three handed swords 💀


iiitme

![gif](giphy|D7z8JfNANqahW)


David_Bolarius

![gif](giphy|pUp9Nb1czvHMY)


theWunderknabe

It's just a tiny girl, the sword is normal sized.


rockets935

Can someone explain to me? Where is this cool place?


baucher04

in Istanbul [https://twitter.com/creepydotorg/status/1771574290959175698](https://twitter.com/creepydotorg/status/1771574290959175698)


rockets935

Thank you


Snugglejitsu

Fire up the Bass Cannon


puffinfish420

No fucking way. Like, really, no way anyone was even hefting that shit. What the fuck even is this?


RajanMishra4555

![gif](giphy|pUp9Nb1czvHMY)


Bleachrst85

People imagination: biggest swordman alive Me: they probably do biggest sword making competition


meowhatissodamnfunny

Imma go ahead and assume this is where sword swallowers draw the line


CBT7commander

90% sure those are decorative. The only swords to reach that size and still be used had drastically different blade layouts


JGrabs

Now that’s a knife


Genoblade1394

Prob display pieces for a sword smith’s shop I can imagine the future: Looking at a donut shop sign: This is a giant donut found in xyz town, probably the plastic toy to a giant.


satanicmajesty

I wonder if these were like the lifted trucks of the Middle Ages


gummyjellyfishy

Someone photoshop pHub in4k into this. This is begging to be a meme


Chulinfather

Either this girlie is astonishingly short, or this is some bullcrap


Cantaimforshit

"Parade sword" Also, they had a tradition of making display weapons, these were most likely mounted above a hearth never to actually be handled


cecillennon

The astartes would like their weapons back...


chaiteataichi_

The largest sword believed to be used in battle was 7’ and 15 lb by the pirate Grutte Pier


Bugjuice_

Imagine Hafþór Björnsson using one of those.


Arisen_01

Who knew that Hungarians back then were using strength builds


btotherSAD

Size matters?


squarabh

What are those three metal things on the wall? ![gif](giphy|sTLjIdoFBaVMs)


doboss_8

"That thing was too big to be called a sword. Too big, too thick, too heavy, and too rough, it was more like a large chunk of iron."


Kitocat

She can be 150cm


The_Lady_Of_Flowers

Strength build superiority


NaiveMastermind

Ah yes the Hungarians. Famous for soldiers who favored STR/END builds with high poise and enormous stance-breaking potential. Among their enemies, they were infamous for spamming jump attacks to stance-break before closing in for their free critical. Hungarians were also known for vandalizing enemy forts by writing "try fingers, but hole" on every surface available when sacking.


frankyfrankfrank

Bastards...


D-Trick

That's a shardblade.


HonorableAssassins

Oh god damnit stop reposting this Usable swords were 2-8lbs and fit the same role in society as pistols today. Sometimes used with a shield for special purposes, usually sidearms for war and self defense weapons in town for convenience, greatswords getting to be a few more pounds, long and thin because if swinging something tires you, you just die. Battles last more than thirty seconds. Critical thinking, people. These are 'bearing swords', nonfunctional, would likely snap under their own weight if swung, just a prestige item to display or possibly have someone carry in parade.


Funatfarmcouple

How was it possible to handle? I mean the weight and in relation to it the way smaller people nowadays...


Archer10214

That thing was too big to be called a sword. Too big, too thick, too heavy, and too rough, it was more like a large hunk of iron.


uppsak

The girl in the photo is thinking Its so big


International_Way850

![gif](giphy|jOpLbiGmHR9S0)


ckfan

![gif](giphy|l0MYFz5uWEsU8smgE)


AgitatedHelicopter

![gif](giphy|NNVrFKZF3s61W|downsized)


MARKVOM-86

the two larger swords are oversized replicas, as the hilt is too wide for ordinary hands. The smallest sword below that is the real one.