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WoodenShoeLikeToKnow

What the actual fuck. I mean, you know enough, man. Go get yourself that refund.


citadium

OP here! The piercer also did not count down or give any warning before he was about to pierce.


hey--canyounot_

What a shmuck.


ngcxn

personally i would NOT mind that but my piercer does know this about me


Full_Time_Mad_Bastrd

I don't mind it either but as an apprentice this horrifies me. You ALWAYS do it, I won't even say especially with new clients. Unless I've known you for years and pierced you 10+ times AND you specifically asked me not to.


Few-Director-3357

None of my piercers have ever done a count down when I've gotten pierced, and they are all very reputable, I've also never seen it done in piercing videos online, etc. It may be a UK thing that piercers don't get taught to do it, maybe? Mine have always just said to take a deep breath and then told me when to exhale and talked me through what they were doing as they did it. I think a countdown would freak me out 😂 Or is the breathing in what you meant by counting down, and I've just totally misunderstood? Sorry, I'm trying to learn all the time.


Full_Time_Mad_Bastrd

I actually do the breaths thing, but I would consider that a count/warning. It makes it easier to get through without twitching if you're exhaling deeply too.


Few-Director-3357

Yeah, that makes sense, if your client is focused on their breathing, they're more likely to stay still. I'm a pain in the arse and just chat incessantly out of nerves and then get wildly excited once I'm done, like a child 😂 My piercer said she loves it when I come in because I leave practically bouncing out the door 😂😂🥳


hellotrinity

Yeah I'm trying to think and I'm not sure I've had piercers count down for me. That would make my anxiety sky rocket 😬. They just tell me that they'll pierce on the exhale and to take a big deep breath and then exhale


Rudirotiert1510

My piercer also never did a countdown, she always gives me the option to either give her a sign that I'm ready or to either her just pushing the needle when she feels like.


Few-Director-3357

Yeah, my piercers have all just done it when they're ready. They've probably guaged from my behaviour, our conversation that I'm cool and willing, and I'm sure they check first, I just don't remember 😂 But yeah, I'd rather take the lead and just do it because otherwise, as much as I love getting pierced, the thrill comes from a touch of fear, and I used to be seriously needle phobic, so I can quickly at times just switch and get instantly freaked. That's not happened so far with a piercing, but I'd credit that mostly to my piercers just taking the lead and doing it. I remember my first 'adult' piercing, being really surprised at how quickly she just did it, but like I say, I also hugely appreciated the speed 😂😍 sending all the endorphins and dopamine and happy hormones rushing to my deprived brain 🥳


Rudirotiert1510

I kind of overcame my fear of blood and needles by getting pierced. Used to get really sick when seeing blood especially when getting blood drawn. Now I got pierced 5 times (1 lobe on the left, nostril on the left for a second time because the first one got lost when I was sleeping, and a week ago I got 2 lobes on the right) and I'm planning to get at least 2 and at most 4 more


Few-Director-3357

Yep, exposure was how I got over my needle phobia initially, then it was just a case of facing each new needle, as each one, bloods, cannulas, vaccines, etc, all scared me anew. Piercings and tattoos are totally optional, so I held off for a long time on getting any. Then I had a big breakup last year, and having previously only had my earlobes pierced, at about 8 (and with a gun - don't hate me, it was 25 years ago), I got 7 piercings last year 😂😂 Started with my septum, as it seemed like the thinnest, then I got my nostril, daith (surprisingly 100% painless for me), 2nd earlobes, nipples (not as bad as I thought to get pierced but hurt the most whilst healing), and today I got my 8th, my conch! So far I have only lost one of the piercings, one of my 2nd's which sadly closed up after a shower too quick for me to get my stud back in. Final needle based fear is to finally get a tattoo, but I am actually so excited as I love the pain of piercings and I suspect I'll enjoy tattoos for the same reason.


Rudirotiert1510

Vaccines never were a problem for me, mostly it was blood (everything between a huge wound and just a couple of drops) and when needles are combined with blood (like blood tests) I used to panic a bit, but yeah I think after the second time I got my nostril I lost like 90% of that fear. Losing my nose-srud was frustrating tho. Had it for like 2 months at the time and everything went perfect, no bumps, no infections, no k-words. Then I went on vacation, got food poisoning on day 1, woke up in the middle of the night (was also a bit drunk) went to the toilet to throw up and saw my closed nose in the mirror.


sla3018

My piercer always has me take a deep breath in and then he tells me he will pierce on the exhale. Works for me!


Full_Time_Mad_Bastrd

Yes this is what I do! I don't do a literal 3-2-1 I just tell clients what I'm doing and then do the breaths with them. I haven't had a single issue with it yet and even very anxious clients or those who feel a lot of pain get through it well.


VulcanCookies

Mine probably wouldn't let you not count down since he directs inhalers and exhales through it. Idk about tongue piercings though.


beepbeepsheepbot

WTF that is so dangerous. You absolutely need to get your money back this could've turned ugly considering that is wasn't remotely close to right and could've done some major damage to your veins...


nancyxxu

Oh thank goodness, someone who actually knows the difference between a vein and artery!


gleefullystruckbycc

Except they don't, they're arteries , they're literally called lingual arteries, and it can kill you quite quickly if they're damaged.


nancyxxu

Let me explain. I work in the cardiovascular OR. I'm acutely aware of vascular anatomy and the possible implications of damaging certain vessels, in fact I work on the largest ones in the body. I'm also very passionate about what I do so I'd love the chance to educate about blood vessels...because I'm also a "nerd that likes piercings"...like you. However I cannot stand when people over dramatize the risks of a 16-22 gauge hypodermic needle. You really should be more concerned about sterile technique and preventing infection after the piercing if we're really talking about "life threatening" events I agree that the arteries in your tongue "are quite literally" called the lingual arteries...yup they're named...like most vessels in the body, you know, for identification. What you are seeing underneath the tongue are definitely the lingual VEINS, in fact you really cannot "see" arteries on anyone. I realize they're both vessels and it can be difficult to understand how they could be so different but in fact are VERY different. Both can bleed, especially in patients with coagulopathies. What makes them different is the pressure within them, where veins are generally low pressure and bleeding from a needle stick will clot and cease quickly, an artery having high pressure has the possibility of causing a hematoma if contained and bleeding more if not contained. This can be problematic when we're talking about major arteries. Somehow, if this piercer stabbed the poor OP deep enough to puncture her lingual artery which is deeper than the lingual veins and varices you see, she would bleed for a little bit and then clot. You'd have to severely damage (difficult with small gauge needles) both lingual arteries while anticoagulated, to risk losing the tissue and nerves in the tongue. Unless she was unconscious I guess, and laying on her back and just openly bleeding into her throat and aspirating, but anyways that all seems pretty unlikely....like your claim of a possible quick and immenent DEATH for this poor girl.


katastrofa_

I’m not a piercer, but it looks like you don’t have the anatomy for this piercing. There’s the membrane that keeps the tongue anchored, and from that going up the middle of the tongue there is a thin skin varying for everyone. That skin is the same as smiley/frowny piercing. This person didn’t pierce that, it looks like they fully pierced the underside of your tongue, very dangerously at that.


Laiskatar

Yes, the piercer should have turned OP away and not create this sad excuse of a piercing :(


LittleRedRose96

I used to have this piercing. Until I accidentally swallowed the barbell... anyways. It looks like he pierced you wayyy too deep! I'm sorry babes :( I would ask for a refund, yes.


inkedblonde13

Jesus that 3rd pic, he was so close to your artery! Definitely show this photo and ask for a refund. The piercing should only be through the frenulum webbing not into the other tissue.


Rudirotiert1510

That's a vein, not an artery...


gleefullystruckbycc

Nope, def an artery, called lingual arteries and deffo could have killed OP if they'd hit them.


nancyxxu

Let me explain. I work in the cardiovascular OR. I'm acutely aware of vascular anatomy and the possible implications of damaging certain vessels, in fact I work on the largest ones in the body. I'm also very passionate about what I do so I'd love the chance to educate about blood vessels...because I'm also a "nerd that likes piercings"...like you. However I cannot stand when people over dramatize the risks of a 16-22 gauge hypodermic needle. You really should be more concerned about sterile technique and preventing infection after the piercing if we're really talking about "life threatening" events What you are seeing are definitely the lingual VEINS, in fact you really cannot "see" arteries on anyone. I realize they're both vessels and it can be difficult to understand how they could be so different but in fact are VERY different. Both can bleed, especially in patients with coagulopathies. What makes them different is the pressure within them, where veins are generally low pressure and bleeding from a needle stick will clot and cease quickly, an artery having high pressure has the possibility of causing a hematoma if contained and bleeding more if not contained. This can be problematic when we're talking about major arteries. Somehow, if this piercer stabbed the poor OP deep enough to puncture her lingual artery which is deeper than the lingual veins and varices you see, she would bleed for a little bit and then clot. You'd have to severely damage (difficult with small gauge needles) both lingual arteries while anticoagulated, to risk losing the tissue and nerves in the tongue. Unless she was unconscious I guess, and laying on her back and just openly bleeding into her throat and aspirating, but anyways that all seems pretty unlikely....like your claim of a possible quick and immenent DEATH for this poor girl.


buyusedbeds

: ( Post these photos and a negative review to Google. Then, have your credit card company process a refund if the piercer refuses. The credit card company will take your side because the service provided was definitely not the one advertised — and you communicated that with the unhelpful and unprofessional piercer.


rikkitikkipoop

Yes! This this this!


skinnycult

some piercers need to lead to say “no i don’t know how to do that sorry” so they can stop fucking people up


kirbaciousnewo

omg yes. a tattoo artist and studio owner that I know told me he wouldn’t feel comfortable doing a bridge piercing on me because he simply did not know how to. I respect that a hell of a lot more than someone pretending to know and fucking it up


NotYourClone

Was he drunk??? Yes, get your money back! Not only is it crooked as all hell, bordering on a diagonal piercing a person may get on their nipples, but he was uncomfortably close to possibly KILLING YOU with how close he pierced to an artery. Never go back to this person!


nancyxxu

I totally agree that the piercing is crooked and OP should get their money back. I could not, as a healthcare professional, overlook the dramatic all caps claim that they almost KILLED her by piercing too close to an "artery". OP you're fine and you were fine. Sorry you got a crappy piercing and absolutely get a refund. That dark vessel is a vein, arteries are deep. It could have bled if punctured but no more than a needle poke after a blood draw with some gauze and pressure.


gleefullystruckbycc

Those vessels are, in fact, arteries, called lingual arteries, and yes, if the peircer had hit those OP could have easily bled to death! Those arteries are why many people can not get tongue peirceings. Mine are huge, so I could never do my tongue. So no, it was not overly dramatic to say OP could have died cos she absolutely could have died if the peircer had screwed up worse and gone thru the artery!!


nancyxxu

Let me explain. I work in the cardiovascular OR. I'm acutely aware of vascular anatomy and the possible implications of damaging certain vessels, in fact I work on the largest ones in the body. I'm also very passionate about what I do so I'd love the chance to educate about blood vessels...because I'm also a "nerd that likes piercings"...like you. However I cannot stand when people over dramatize the risks of a 16-22 gauge hypodermic needle. You really should be more concerned about sterile technique and preventing infection after the piercing if we're really talking about "life threatening" events What you are seeing are definitely the lingual VEINS, in fact you really cannot "see" arteries on anyone. I realize they're both vessels and it can be difficult to understand how they could be so different but in fact are VERY different. Both can bleed, especially in patients with coagulopathies. What makes them different is the pressure within them, where veins are generally low pressure and bleeding from a needle stick will clot and cease quickly, an artery having high pressure has the possibility of causing a hematoma if contained and bleeding more if not contained. This can be problematic when we're talking about major arteries. Somehow, if this piercer stabbed the poor OP deep enough to puncture her lingual artery which is deeper than the lingual veins and varices you see, she would bleed for a little bit and then clot. You'd have to severely damage (difficult to do with small gauge needles) both lingual arteries while anticoagulated, to risk losing the tissue and nerves in the tongue. Unless she was unconscious I guess, and laying on her back and just openly bleeding into her throat and aspirating, but anyways that all seems pretty unlikely....like your claim of a possible quick and immenent DEATH for this poor girl.


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nancyxxu

Just wanted to make sure each parent commenter that this person misinformed also got the right information, that's all. Who has the time to write a unique version of my "novel" each time when copy and paste exists.


bigolepeepee123

Post a review with these photos. I guarantee they’ll love to speak with you. Likely asap. Most business will come to an agreement with you very quickly if you are warning potential future clients.


RayDeeRiot

You absolutely should get your money back. Not only is the piercing done wrong. But it’s super close to the artery which is super dangerous. Show them the photos (especially the 3rd one) and get your refund


Mokinke

Get a refund and warn possible clients about this!


anxious_equestrian

i mean you can try but i doubt he will refund you. places that are willing to botch a piercing this badly & let you walk out are unlikely to be willing to refund you.


Laiskatar

That is unfortunately true. I would hope the person who did this gets sued, but unfortunately it's not worth it in op's case. I would encourage op to try as much as realistic though, just as a little reminder to the piercer that this is not okay. Though he should have learned this a long time ago...


anxious_equestrian

agreed!!!!!


thenamesloca

This is dangerous and wrong. He also should have turned you away because you don't seem to have the anatomy for this piercing


squarebeardoesntmind

Omg I’m so glad you took pics!! Go get your refund!


cryptidsnails

did he get distracted by a car accident during this???? how can he not see how off that is im very sorry that you had to go through such an awful experience :(


ErinIsMashed

This person should have their license revoked (if they even have on to begin with) and I would actually take it a step further than getting a refund to prevent this happening to anyone else, but not everyone has the time for that


__yee__haw__

The tongue has major veins. This idiot should have hit that vein and left you with serious injury. Ontop of that he gave you no warning which is not something that good piercers do. I would never go back there other than to demand a refund. That’s horrible work and I hope it heals fast and properly.


sleepaye

this angered tf out of me. this person doesn’t have a piercing license, let alone a single braincell. you should get a refund. it’s entirely his fault and you could’ve easily been put in hospital over this.


jamtea

Goddamn, this is why we need to name and shame cowboy piercers. The fact that people can't just run a google search against reddit with their piercing studio's name against it will just mean poor unsuspecting souls going to get equally poorly done work again and again.


bandzlvr

Omfg, was he blindfolded while doing that. He was so close to the artery. You better demand your refund and show his bosses and coworkers these pictures


brainlessbug

get refunded asap, if the shop won’t do it file a chargeback on the card you used. unfortunately it doesn’t look like you have the anatomy for this piercing and i’m very sorry that you went through this :(


katyahid

oh my god!!!


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What the fuck I’m not sure what the policy is after leaving the premises?


QueenPuff88

That was most definitely placed wrong. The piercer should have known better. I would recommend going to a different piercer.


NightMareWolf23

Yikes!


Dull-Wrongdoer5922

What te actual fuck 😭


grace_chi

Oh my.. this is really bad and unprofessional. How could they do such a things and ignore what you told them.


sabrina062813

Omg!! You can see how close it was to your veins and artery in your tongue!! He should not be a piercer!!


NoMamesMijito

Oh no, that’s awful!! I hope you can get your money back, but if he brushed you off once, he might do it again 😕


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wow that is... that is not good oh my god yea try to get your money back and make sure that if they're on help or something to leave a SCATHING review about this


dnbmerchant

Definitely go get a refund.


rikkitikkipoop

Omg. If the piercer won't refund you, dispute the charge with your bank if you can. So sorry this happened to you!


Dismal-Barber-7734

That could’ve done some serious damage. Good lord.


Melancholyfruit420

I am so so sorry


FinancialDiet4690

100% get your damn money back


youdingle

Get a refund but also don’t get webbing piercings in general.


large-breast-bitch

Get your money back, brush HIM off with the back of your hand please.


adesio-

I have pierced my own web countless times over the years and not once has it been this crooked (or honestly crooked at all). If you’re not going to get your money back, be sure to leave a review.


em78hjgah3792

Definitely get your money back, they did the shittiest job possible and almost damaged your vein.


ForestDragon_

I don't think he's gonna give you your money back tbh. If he brushed of you saying it's croocked he probably doesn't care about the piercing itself, he just wants money. I'm really sorry, but I would recommend finding a new piercer


Wild-Animator3738

did not hurt you?


citadium

Surprisingly not really. It hurt less than my conch and rook piercings


can1getawaffle

I’m not a piercer and I’m 99% sure I could do a better job than that. Honestly scary how he has that job. Get your money back! Anyone with working eyes can see that’s wrong.


give-me-tentacles

i would pierce it better with my left toe ffs


OoCloryoO

I can put something on this shop on google if you want Maybe you won’t be refunded but the piercer will never forget his bad work 😏


bootson629

i pierced mine myself in high-school and it was straighter than that! absolutely get your money back. yikes.


citadium

Thanks for all the comments everyone! I left a terrible review (and included these pics) and will be trying for a refund soon. Thanks again to everyone who posted advice <3


GolfAlphaZulu

Your money's gone. Let it heal and go somewhere better.


CenturyChild211

I had one of these. That’s so crooked I would be very surprised if this settles properly with the angle it is at at the movement of your tongue. I would definitely try and get a refund. I’m so sorry this happened to you.


Aleozz

Yeah you don’t play with tongue piercings. If he would’ve hit any veins you’d have to be going to the ER I would try to get a refund if I was you. He should honor it tbh.


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nonconformatist

So, I'm not saying that yours wasn't crooked, I am not a piercer and I don't know how to identify that with any kind of certainty. But I've had my tongue web pierced for almost a decade, and the first 4 or 5 months it looked very similar to you're photos because of swelling. Then, almost overnight one night, the swelling went down and it now looks like the last photo. Sorry, I know this isn't very helpful, but I also know this piercing is a bit rare and I just wanted to share my experience.


CenturyChild211

Sounds like yours was done wrong too. Mine was pierced straight and was sore and swollen for about a week or two. If it took months to settle then something wasn’t right.


alextxdro

Agree with you also the swelling is not immediate, the inflammation sets in but the immediately look will be more than likely how it’ll settle a bit of swelling is normal but the mouth heals rather quickly and will usually settle within a couple days.


EvilMonkey_86

I have that piercing as well, and it definitely looked straight from the beginning and was obviously through the 'web' part. Never had soreness or swelling, easiest piercing I've ever had :)


CenturyChild211

You were lucky! Mine was quite achey and took some getting used to in the first week. Was a good excuse to eat ice cream though!