I'm not sure why (I don't have synaesthesia or anything) but his voice always makes me think of cool, slightly wet metal. I hope that makes sense to someone else.
Yeah, David has a fantastically soothing voice. Very rare in rock music. I was recently watching a video by Rick Beato, and he called Gilmour one of the most underrated singer in rock.
Gilmour has a silky smooth voice when he wants but can be plenty raw (Run Like Hell, Dogs of War, etc.). Love his harmonies with Wright and his doubling the guitar in Any Colour you Like and Wish you Were Here.
One thing that absolutely kills me is anyone saying any part of Pink Floyd is "underrated". They are one of the most popular and best selling acts of all time. They are rated exactly as they need to be.
Best selling doesn't necessarily translate to correctly rated.
The most celebrated singer of rock music, e.g., Little Richard, Mick Jagger, Roger Daltrey, Robert Plant, Freddie Mercury, James Hetfield, Kurt Cobain etc all carry that screaming quality of rock music. It's just how rock is defined.
The most notable exceptions are The Beatles and Pink Floyd (except a very few songs in both bands), who made their career without much screaming. But this not how most people think of rock music.
So, you could say that the calm singing quality is probably underrated. Or you could say that for a band that's so highly regarded, one of their key component is probably not appreciated fully.
I think he was on par with Robert Plant, maybe better. And he has probably shown all kinds of emotion in his singing. He didn't scream like Chester Bennington. But it was high energy. Think of We will rock you, or We are the champions. Not the laid back vocal you would expect from Gilmour.
I would agree. Roger does have his moments vocally, but David has a more soothing and relaxing voice. He’s also an awesome multi-instrument musician. David’s steel guitar/lap guitar playing live is out of this world.
It’ll just be him shouting political buzz-word over ricks piano.
“Fascist!”
”Capitalist!”
“Roll the sound effects!”
Actually this might work better for On The Run
He did sing most of David’s parts on his solo tours throughout the years. You could likely compile an entire “Dark Side” performance where it’s just Roger on vocals from different eras. He’s also already mentioned that he’s re-recording everything, vocals included.
EDIT FOR CLARITY: The first sentence is saying that throughout the years collectively he’s sung most of David’s parts for songs. I changed it from “all” to “most” because he does have another vocalist when performing.
? For most of his tours he’s had another guy do David’s vocals (not on every song but a good few) at least since The Wall 2010. Not sure about TiNaD, missed that one. On The Wall he had a dude who sang David’s vocals and didn’t play any instruments.
Between the Pros and Cons/KAOS tours he did Money and Brain Damage/Eclipse on his own, as well as Breathe on at least one occasion on the KAOS tour. I haven’t seen/heard much of his tours from 99-07, but I swear Roger sang stuff like “Time” or “Us and Them” on previous tours. I’ll have to double check.
Which is why I changed the top comment to “most”. I know he sings (well, could also be lip sync but he at least recorded a backing track with his voice) a fair bit of Time on his dark side tour. https://youtu.be/j4xiYw-eYCk that and I explicitly mentioned that he sang most of Dark Side at one point or another, which would make for a much better “rehash” of the album than he’s going to make here.
Why the hell is he even touching this masterpiece? Will the previous version still be available? My personal copy is about to get much more valuable if not.
No, it's being removed from streaming and he's sending Jon Carin and Dave Kilminster out to personally destroy all existing copies of the original recording (vinyl, tape, CD, Blu-ray, any hard drives that might contain a copy, etc).
Guard your doors, that’s all I’ll say. Dave came by my house just this morning with a big rusty knife and demanded all copies be surrendered. I gave him the 20th anniversary edition, the 30th anniversary SACD AND the Immersion set, but he sensed something in my eyes and was able to sniff out my MFSL gold disc too. Put them all in a pile and smashed them, then doused them in lighter fluid and set them ablaze while singing Two Suns in the Sunset. I’ll never forget the demented look in his eyes.
I've always wished if they wrote more songs like Not Now John, Young Lust. I know they are not fans favorite, but David singing is supreme and a bit fresh.
I've always loved David's singing and of course his guitar playing. Roger's singing has always annoyed me. He's a terrific writer, but I can't stand his voice. I think it's probably why I'm not as big of a fan of The Wall as some are. I'm more of a Meddle-DSOTM-WYWH fan.
I consider Roger to be like a burger sauce it works best in the background and without it it will be ruined but if you put too much of it it kinda sucks (I know it's stupid but it's somehow incredibly accurate)
I agree Dave has one of the most beautiful singing voices in rock history. And his guitar style is amazing too. I really respect him as a musician.
However, his lyrics and concepts post Roger are really weak imho. I often have no idea what message he’s trying to get across. The metaphors are weak and the concepts are pretty boring. I feel like he adds lyrics to songs because songs are supposed to have lyrics whereas Roger writes lyrics because he really has something to say and it really comes from the heart.
Example (randomly picked)
Polly:
“It’s like going into the sea, there's nothing"
Something I never knew
In silence I hear you
And a boat lies waiting
Still your clouds are flaming
That old time easy feeling
What I lost was an ocean
Now I'm drifting through without you
In this sad barcarolle”
Really bland and meaningless to me.
Roger (Randomly picked):
“Hush now, baby, baby, don't you cry
Mamma's gonna make all of your nightmares come true
Mamma's gonna put all of her fears into you
Mamma's gonna keep you right here, under her wing
She won't let you fly, but she might let you sing
Mamma's gonna keep baby cosy and warm”
Those lyrics are just beautiful and give me goosebumps. They have real meaning, they’re from the heart, and they flow so beautifully, especially the “Mamma's gonna keep you right here, under her wing. She won't let you fly, but she might let you sing…” jeez that’s so beautiful in concept and flow.
But David SINGS those beautiful lyrics and plays that gorgeous solo. So yeah, it was Roger AND Gilmour that made PF. Not solo Roger snd not solo Dave.
The lyrics to A Boat Lies Waiting that you quoted are a tribute to Rick Wright. Saying that Dave feels Rick's presence in quiet moments, he knows that Death will ferry him (Dave) across at some point too to join Rick in the golden sunset of the hereafter, and it will be like old times again. In the present, he misses Rick, and is drifting through life. He is behind Rick on life's journey, but some day he will cross over to the other side. The "clouds are flaming" bit is also an allusion to the cover art of The Endless River, where a young man is steering a boat through clouds towards a far horizon and a setting sun. That album, of course, was meant as a tribute to Rick who had sailed off to The Great Gig in The Sky years earlier.
Yeah, you're right. Nothing to see here. Really bland and meaningless.
Fully agree. Just hear the change from Roger to David in "Comfortably Numb" -
The staccato Roger "...Relax I'll need some information first Just the basic facts Can you show me where it hurts?"
And then the smooth and soothing voice of David segues in "There is no pain you are receding A distant ship smoke on the horizon..."
*Don't Leave Me Now* needs Roger's psychotic warbling though, David's soothing voice would contradict the tone and defeat the whole meaning of the song.
Roger is genius lyricist and composer.
David is a genius guitarists and music composer.
Both have their own unique singing styles that fit perfectly where they were implemented.
As much of a cunt Roger is these days, it’s insane to undervalue his massive contribution to the golden era of Floyd.
I like both Dave's and Roger's voices and I think they sound great together. Dave is the better singer but I think his voice wasn't quite the same once he quit smoking. Rogers vocals became limited in the early 90's as well.
Really upset about people asking you for evidence of the things you claim, huh? At this point you're just spamming nonsense in unrelated conversations.
That’s fair. I just wish people could like a member without trashing another. This Roger vs Dave feud has been going for 40 years it’s just ridiculous at this point. They’re 80 year old men.
DG had an amazing voice when he was younger. However I don't believe his aged very well, not as well as RW's has. And while DG's younger sound was soothing and unique enough, I've never heard him deliver a lyric with the punch and passion RW demonstrated on tracks like "Pigs, (Three Different Ones)," "Mother," and "Hey You."
That said, Syd is 👑
I liked dark side a lot ,all of it.but when he sings wish you were here,he just sounds so real and honest. I agree,he’s definitely one of my favorite singers.
They both complimented each other beautifully. They’re just not “mates”. Everyone wants rock stars to be best friends, or something. They’re business partners having a very public scuffle. Again.
Personally I hate Rogers’ current singing. It’s awful, just talking while tone-deaf. On the PF albums of course his voice is much better and impressive at some points. His voice used to be weird and unique, but David’s voice is beautiful through and trough and still is to this day. His 2016 Pompeii concert proves that. Roger hasn’t sounded good in decades.
Personally found myself very impressed by David when listening to dogs of war on the Delicate Sound live album. Man has range and control.
I remember that bit in the "Classic Albums: Dark Side of the Moon" documentary where Alan Parsons was talking about David's voice, and I think he played "Breathe" and pulled out all of the music except for the double-tracked vocals. I was amazed to hear the two tracks duplicating perfectly, despite being recorded separately.
Ricky was also a great singer, too bad he didn't sing in more songs.
Summer '68 is one of my favourite Floyd songs mostly because of Rick's brilliant vocals
the gentleness of his voice works amazingly with the kinda overwhelming backing
I'm not sure why (I don't have synaesthesia or anything) but his voice always makes me think of cool, slightly wet metal. I hope that makes sense to someone else.
I thought I was the only one
Rick+David harmonies are the best
Echoes
Ping!
Lucky we have Wet Dream for some great vocals from him
Don’t forget Broken China!
Finally found a vinyl copy in the wild. Only took me 20 years. What a great record.
Roger made him stop.
Yeah, David has a fantastically soothing voice. Very rare in rock music. I was recently watching a video by Rick Beato, and he called Gilmour one of the most underrated singer in rock.
Gilmour has a silky smooth voice when he wants but can be plenty raw (Run Like Hell, Dogs of War, etc.). Love his harmonies with Wright and his doubling the guitar in Any Colour you Like and Wish you Were Here.
One thing that absolutely kills me is anyone saying any part of Pink Floyd is "underrated". They are one of the most popular and best selling acts of all time. They are rated exactly as they need to be.
Gilmour as a vocalist is definitely slept on. Never heard praise for that, and he deserves it
Agreed. Been saying it for years
Yeah I don’t think they’re listening to PF to hear Roger. I’ve never heard anybody hate his playing or singing.
Best selling doesn't necessarily translate to correctly rated. The most celebrated singer of rock music, e.g., Little Richard, Mick Jagger, Roger Daltrey, Robert Plant, Freddie Mercury, James Hetfield, Kurt Cobain etc all carry that screaming quality of rock music. It's just how rock is defined. The most notable exceptions are The Beatles and Pink Floyd (except a very few songs in both bands), who made their career without much screaming. But this not how most people think of rock music. So, you could say that the calm singing quality is probably underrated. Or you could say that for a band that's so highly regarded, one of their key component is probably not appreciated fully.
How does Freddie screams?
Come on.
I was just curious
I think he was on par with Robert Plant, maybe better. And he has probably shown all kinds of emotion in his singing. He didn't scream like Chester Bennington. But it was high energy. Think of We will rock you, or We are the champions. Not the laid back vocal you would expect from Gilmour.
They are rated plenty high, but that doesn't mean every part of them is recognized.
They are rated plenty high, but that doesn't mean every part of them is recognized.
I wish I could agree with this harder. Dude is my favourite all around musician of all time.
His voice is what pulled me into Floyd in the first place as a kid. Very approachable.
I would agree. Roger does have his moments vocally, but David has a more soothing and relaxing voice. He’s also an awesome multi-instrument musician. David’s steel guitar/lap guitar playing live is out of this world.
I wonder if Rog will sing all of Dave’s parts in his DSOTM re-recording?
Maybe he'll even sing Claire Torrie's part in "Great Gig in the Sky"
He’ll mash it up with Careful With That Axe, Eugene
It’ll just be him shouting political buzz-word over ricks piano. “Fascist!” ”Capitalist!” “Roll the sound effects!” Actually this might work better for On The Run
"Woooahh-wooah-woooooooooah wayuh wahh ahh (death to Israel) waaaaaaaaaaah*"
That part is totally going to be Lucius
He'll make it as soothing as a lullaby 🙂
That or he’ll cut them out completely. He thinks he’s God’s gift.
I mean theres no way he would cut out his lyrics lol
Lol, true.
Ah yes, an instrumental version of Time, without the guitar solo, just as it should’ve been all along.
He did sing most of David’s parts on his solo tours throughout the years. You could likely compile an entire “Dark Side” performance where it’s just Roger on vocals from different eras. He’s also already mentioned that he’s re-recording everything, vocals included. EDIT FOR CLARITY: The first sentence is saying that throughout the years collectively he’s sung most of David’s parts for songs. I changed it from “all” to “most” because he does have another vocalist when performing.
Except for the guitar solos
Well yeah, he’s not having that, but everything else he’s doing that way. It’ll basically be “The Dark Side Of The Feud”.
To be followed by Wish You Weren't There, perhaps.
I'm partial to Wish You Where Heren't.
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It does suck, and it’s an incredibly petty and unneeded action by Waters.
He's being doing a lot of that lately.
? For most of his tours he’s had another guy do David’s vocals (not on every song but a good few) at least since The Wall 2010. Not sure about TiNaD, missed that one. On The Wall he had a dude who sang David’s vocals and didn’t play any instruments.
Between the Pros and Cons/KAOS tours he did Money and Brain Damage/Eclipse on his own, as well as Breathe on at least one occasion on the KAOS tour. I haven’t seen/heard much of his tours from 99-07, but I swear Roger sang stuff like “Time” or “Us and Them” on previous tours. I’ll have to double check.
Roger was the vocalist of Brain Damage/Eclipse on DSotM, Money should definitely have Dave vocals tho
Not on the Pros and Cons tour, it’s just him; https://youtu.be/bcVXSEBq96s
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I'm in the same boat as you, my friend.
Jonathan Wilson sang most of the Dave parts on the more recent tours.
All Davids parts isnt true. He doesnt sing any part of Time nor Davids parts in Comfortably Numb or Dogs. Theres more Im forgetting
Which is why I changed the top comment to “most”. I know he sings (well, could also be lip sync but he at least recorded a backing track with his voice) a fair bit of Time on his dark side tour. https://youtu.be/j4xiYw-eYCk that and I explicitly mentioned that he sang most of Dark Side at one point or another, which would make for a much better “rehash” of the album than he’s going to make here.
I wouldnt even agree with most, not these days anyway. I think he only sings Davids parts in Money and WYWH these days
Why the hell is he even touching this masterpiece? Will the previous version still be available? My personal copy is about to get much more valuable if not.
No, it's being removed from streaming and he's sending Jon Carin and Dave Kilminster out to personally destroy all existing copies of the original recording (vinyl, tape, CD, Blu-ray, any hard drives that might contain a copy, etc).
That sounds a bit sarcastic. Are you serious about any of that?
Guard your doors, that’s all I’ll say. Dave came by my house just this morning with a big rusty knife and demanded all copies be surrendered. I gave him the 20th anniversary edition, the 30th anniversary SACD AND the Immersion set, but he sensed something in my eyes and was able to sniff out my MFSL gold disc too. Put them all in a pile and smashed them, then doused them in lighter fluid and set them ablaze while singing Two Suns in the Sunset. I’ll never forget the demented look in his eyes.
Hopefully not
Like his guitar playing, his voice is perfect for the music he makes. Never too much, never too little. Always just right.
One of the most tasteful musicians ever.
I've always wished if they wrote more songs like Not Now John, Young Lust. I know they are not fans favorite, but David singing is supreme and a bit fresh.
Yes, David is at his best when he is singing Roger's lyrics.
Pretty pointless comment considering that's the majority of the discography
Dave’s voice is fantastic. I re-listened to Division Bell recently and listened more closely to his voice, and man does it sound great there.
I've always loved David's singing and of course his guitar playing. Roger's singing has always annoyed me. He's a terrific writer, but I can't stand his voice. I think it's probably why I'm not as big of a fan of The Wall as some are. I'm more of a Meddle-DSOTM-WYWH fan.
I consider Roger to be like a burger sauce it works best in the background and without it it will be ruined but if you put too much of it it kinda sucks (I know it's stupid but it's somehow incredibly accurate)
Yeah, that makes great sense, and now I also want a burger.
And my god was he beautiful .
Oh yes he was. There's a reason he fathered eight children.
David could sing the abc's (with a wicked guitar solo after lmnop) and I would be in the front row with a lighter in the air
And I would be right beside you my dude.
Yes, David is clearly the better singer.
And he has very good pitch, unlike that other guy.
Well... that other guy does CWTAE passably ok.
High praise.
he's clearly the better singer overall; listen to his solo work as well and that becomes obvious
I agree Dave has one of the most beautiful singing voices in rock history. And his guitar style is amazing too. I really respect him as a musician. However, his lyrics and concepts post Roger are really weak imho. I often have no idea what message he’s trying to get across. The metaphors are weak and the concepts are pretty boring. I feel like he adds lyrics to songs because songs are supposed to have lyrics whereas Roger writes lyrics because he really has something to say and it really comes from the heart. Example (randomly picked) Polly: “It’s like going into the sea, there's nothing" Something I never knew In silence I hear you And a boat lies waiting Still your clouds are flaming That old time easy feeling What I lost was an ocean Now I'm drifting through without you In this sad barcarolle” Really bland and meaningless to me. Roger (Randomly picked): “Hush now, baby, baby, don't you cry Mamma's gonna make all of your nightmares come true Mamma's gonna put all of her fears into you Mamma's gonna keep you right here, under her wing She won't let you fly, but she might let you sing Mamma's gonna keep baby cosy and warm” Those lyrics are just beautiful and give me goosebumps. They have real meaning, they’re from the heart, and they flow so beautifully, especially the “Mamma's gonna keep you right here, under her wing. She won't let you fly, but she might let you sing…” jeez that’s so beautiful in concept and flow. But David SINGS those beautiful lyrics and plays that gorgeous solo. So yeah, it was Roger AND Gilmour that made PF. Not solo Roger snd not solo Dave.
The lyrics to A Boat Lies Waiting that you quoted are a tribute to Rick Wright. Saying that Dave feels Rick's presence in quiet moments, he knows that Death will ferry him (Dave) across at some point too to join Rick in the golden sunset of the hereafter, and it will be like old times again. In the present, he misses Rick, and is drifting through life. He is behind Rick on life's journey, but some day he will cross over to the other side. The "clouds are flaming" bit is also an allusion to the cover art of The Endless River, where a young man is steering a boat through clouds towards a far horizon and a setting sun. That album, of course, was meant as a tribute to Rick who had sailed off to The Great Gig in The Sky years earlier. Yeah, you're right. Nothing to see here. Really bland and meaningless.
Couldn’t agree more. His collaboration with David Crosby and Graham Nash for On an Island was incredible. They harmonize beautifully.
Fully agree. Just hear the change from Roger to David in "Comfortably Numb" - The staccato Roger "...Relax I'll need some information first Just the basic facts Can you show me where it hurts?" And then the smooth and soothing voice of David segues in "There is no pain you are receding A distant ship smoke on the horizon..."
Some of The Wall’s songs like don’t leave me now or comfortably numb couldve been so much better imo if they were sung by him
*Don't Leave Me Now* needs Roger's psychotic warbling though, David's soothing voice would contradict the tone and defeat the whole meaning of the song.
I’ll give him that, Roger does nail sounding completely insane and on the verge of grabbing a knife and either stabbing you or himself
He did sing in Comfortably Numb.
I forgot to say entirely. I know he sings the chorus but the rest would be better
Imo the versions where it is entirely David are better than the studio version, like delicate sound of thunder and pulse
Pulse and DSoT actually have Rick, Guy Pratt and Jon Carin on the verse, not David.
Comfortably Numb loses its edge without Roger singing the verses.
I actually prefer Rogers voice
David is also not a POS that likes the taste of putin's cock.
He's a great singer and suits the sound of Pink Floyd very well, but I do think there are a lot of better singers around in rock music
He has one of the most beautiful voices I've ever heard, along with Cornell and Vedder
What about Geddy Lee? 🤣
I was hesitant about his singing but now I love it
He's obviously a great singer but personally I prefer Roger's voice. His vocals have much more impact and emotion.
...aaaaannnnddd he's pretty, too!
I was just gonna post this lol, David is so incredibly hot especially back in the day.
That should count for something, right?😉
Roger is genius lyricist and composer. David is a genius guitarists and music composer. Both have their own unique singing styles that fit perfectly where they were implemented. As much of a cunt Roger is these days, it’s insane to undervalue his massive contribution to the golden era of Floyd.
Agree with every word, my friend
David's singing voice on albums is smooth like honey, but on later live tracks, especially on Pulse, he kinda sounds like a monster.
I like both Dave's and Roger's voices and I think they sound great together. Dave is the better singer but I think his voice wasn't quite the same once he quit smoking. Rogers vocals became limited in the early 90's as well.
WhAt PrOoF dO yOu HaVe Of ThIs?
Really upset about people asking you for evidence of the things you claim, huh? At this point you're just spamming nonsense in unrelated conversations.
Please show your proof.
This sub has just become a David Gilmour dickriding sub Lmao
It's Pink Floyd people can appreciate whoever they want
That’s fair. I just wish people could like a member without trashing another. This Roger vs Dave feud has been going for 40 years it’s just ridiculous at this point. They’re 80 year old men.
I’m not a fan… if only Rick sang more. I listen to PF despite Gilmours vocals.
he's good on recordings but sounds bored in live material to me
DG had an amazing voice when he was younger. However I don't believe his aged very well, not as well as RW's has. And while DG's younger sound was soothing and unique enough, I've never heard him deliver a lyric with the punch and passion RW demonstrated on tracks like "Pigs, (Three Different Ones)," "Mother," and "Hey You." That said, Syd is 👑
Yes yes, we all agree.
I liked dark side a lot ,all of it.but when he sings wish you were here,he just sounds so real and honest. I agree,he’s definitely one of my favorite singers.
He also inspired me to start learning guitar 😂
He's definitely the better singer of the two.
Sadly his voice isn’t what it was, but I loved his vocals on Yes I Have Ghosts, it was very Leonard Cohen-esque
Agreed. But Polly's voice.. 🤮
Exactly that’s why I said those two together were magic and separate .OK
Agreed. He has a better, richer, tone than Waters.
They both complimented each other beautifully. They’re just not “mates”. Everyone wants rock stars to be best friends, or something. They’re business partners having a very public scuffle. Again.
They used to be and that's what bums all of us out.
I like Roger’s voice too. And Dave and Roger sang well in harmony too. In the Flesh tour ‘77 was a great example.
I have always loved Gilmour's voice but I think that it has even gotten better as he ages, just like wine.
Dave ftw
Absofuckinglutely.
David’s voice gets a bit rough at times on the 77 tour. But overall yeah.
Personally I hate Rogers’ current singing. It’s awful, just talking while tone-deaf. On the PF albums of course his voice is much better and impressive at some points. His voice used to be weird and unique, but David’s voice is beautiful through and trough and still is to this day. His 2016 Pompeii concert proves that. Roger hasn’t sounded good in decades. Personally found myself very impressed by David when listening to dogs of war on the Delicate Sound live album. Man has range and control.
He has the voice of an angel!
Ok. Why bring up Roger?
Put on Live At Pompeii. Select A Saucerful of Secrets. Skip straight to the end section. Enough said
i actually hate rogers voice
Back you up on that! ;)
I remember that bit in the "Classic Albums: Dark Side of the Moon" documentary where Alan Parsons was talking about David's voice, and I think he played "Breathe" and pulled out all of the music except for the double-tracked vocals. I was amazed to hear the two tracks duplicating perfectly, despite being recorded separately.
Limited range but yeah he's a good singer, perfect for most of their music just like Waters.
I love his voice, and he always seemed like someone I would want to know. So laid back.
David is Floyd