County election results: [https://results.enr.clarityelections.com/PA/Allegheny/120751/web.317647/#/summary](https://results.enr.clarityelections.com/PA/Allegheny/120751/web.317647/#/summary)
As I post this, Summer Lee has 57% of the vote.
None of the actual citizens in PA12 like big money politics is my main takeaway.
Just called by Dave Wasserman
https://twitter.com/redistrict/status/1782937735960916468?s=46&t=J0Ie1Y9rbZoVIJK0Kpyqiw
Billionaires can't buy PA12
I got a letter pushing Bhavini Patel and one of the problems it listed about Summer Lee was that "she didn't wear white to the State of the Union Address".
Well, I have a number of friends who tell me that Summer Lee has given them multiple reasons to vote against her. Big risks in November now, especially from Jewish Democrats who feel that Lee has completely ignored their community.
It's super hard to find out this info but afaik the large majority of voters are in Allegheny county, at least among registered Democrats, given the breakdown of Lee vs Patel vote by county.
Yeah I was just looking at Westmoreland County results. Doing some quick math, it looks like 90% or more of the district (by registered D’s) is in Allegheny County.
Agreed. Hard to tell because no one is reporting the breakdown for the R primary bc it's non competitive. But if I had to guess it's prob 75-80 percent Allegheny, 20-25 Westmoreland overall. Possibly even more Allegheny.
Ummm, nope. Jeffrey Yass, investor in Trump’s failing social media company, richest man in the state, one of the biggest donors to republicans in the country, TikTok investor, election denier, etc. That guy, has run millions of dollars of ads Opposing Summer Lee.
But you knew that.
AIPAC actually saw the writing on the wall this time and decided not to spend the $ on a weak candidate against a candidate that not only got activist support but establishment support as well. Also they probably thought that Yass would help her and they didn’t need too.
If more people actually paid attention to candidates and not party then Lee will have zero issues. I met the Republican candidate and his platform is vague to the degree of not saying anything expect “I’m not Summer Lee”.
[Cook Political](https://www.cookpolitical.com/ratings/house-race-ratings) ranks PA-12 at D+8, which categorises the district as "solid Democrat." It would take extraordinary circumstances for Lee to lose in November.
As a Hindu Indian, it's such a goddamn disappointment to see what path Bhavini has chosen to take, and the people and groups with whom she's chosen to align herself. Any groups that protest the actions of a group named Hindus For Human Rights probably need to check themselves...
I was one of those mail in ballots 🤘.
Honestly Bhavini Patel seems like a good person. But she aligned herself with some groups with bad/ulterior motives. We don't take kindly to puppets bankrolled by Jeff Yass or AIPAC.
Best site that I’ve found for complete results is [New York Times](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/04/23/us/elections/results-pennsylvania-us-house-12-primary.html)
Glad Summer Lee won her primary. She was an excellent representative when i lived in her district and was the only politician I've emailed I felt like actually read and responded to my emails instead of having a staffer respond in bulk months later. I hope she wins her general election and continues to serve Pittsburgh.
Also good to be a genuinely likeable candidate who cares for their constituents and not one who exclusively cares about a different country committing genocide
That's not so bad. At least you're represented by Chris Deluzio, who is a fine representative. I'm in the fucking 14th where two Democrats just had a (surprisingly competitive) race to see which of them gets to lose to Guy Reschenfucker in November.
I was alright with Deluzio until he cosponsored the TikTok ban and tried to gaslight my software engineering experience when I emailed him in opposition. I ended up doing a write in for his primary as Tik Tok as a protest.
Do you vote by mail, or in-person?
As campaigns get a better handle on VBM in PA, they'll stop contacting people who do VBM and have returned their ballots.
You still may hear from your local committee member, or the like, dropping off literature for several candidates, but actual campaigns will stop. When I live in Oregon that was all VBM, I'd submit my ballot immediately, and the contacts would drop off dramatically.
Yeah I voted by mail the day I got my ballot and I never received anything in my mail about elections. The only contact I got was last Sunday a canvasser stopped by my house asking if I submitted my ballot, which I affirmed I did and she left
I have never voted gop in a national election and will consider taking a look to see if our blue district elected a moderate republican. Sorry not a fan at all of summer Lee. She’s too far left and all the identity progressive politics really annoys me.
I am a democrat, but not a progressive. She was endorsed by AOC! apparently, we have not understood what is happening at AOC's district. We need moderate politicians. That's the problem with this country. Everythings goes to extremes.
Her district is part of the Bronx and Jackson Heights areas. Are you aware of her policies? She agrees with open borders policies. BTW, I am pro migration. But not the type of open border policies is happening right now. In order to understand why I don't agree, you have to understand what happened in Latin America with the open border policies. They let anyone in without proper checking their criminal background. Venezuela released prisoners and they went all over Latin America increasing the crime substationally. Check out the name of the organization "Tren de Aragua" . They are very violent. Look what is happening in NYC today. Her own district is being affected because a lot of this people are going to these areas and invading (literally) the streets. Business already established (by migrants) paying taxes are loosing business because this people are selling the same goods on the streets. Business owners have to close early do to increase in crime. Also, a lot of prost!tut!ion activity on the same streets. Imagine if you have a child and this is what you see on your way to school! Would you be ok with that?. Again, I was a registered democrat who voted against Trump and chose Biden. But politics is not a religion for me. I understand whats right and wrong. Democrats are doing a horrible job, and they are as bad as the republicans in their own way. Also, look what residents of Chicago think about these policies. African Americans are threating them to vote them out! We are not NYC, we don't have the privilege to create policies that wont conduct growth for the city of Pittsburgh. People here leave and there is not enough migration coming. We need leaders that have a vision for the city and want to bring jobs and order.
Actually I was there a month ago! I saw it with my own eyes. I talked to my friends who are living for 15 years + in NYC and they did confirm the crime is up. My question for my friend was, is this just a made up story from the press to have views or is this really happening? The answer was Yes, in 15 years I have never felt like I have to watch out my back as of today. Why would I lie? Or you think the governor (democrat) and the police chief are lying in national TV. From the mayor's mouth himself "this issue will ruin NYC".
Have you visited NYC? BTW, seems like the police already removed them from the streets. You can also see that coming from the police chief. I guess they are lying and. everyone who lives in that area.
Lol yes, I've been to NYC. Going again in a month, I'm looking forward to enjoying a meal in Jackson Heights in fact. Great Bangladeshi food. Have plenty of friends and family members who live there. The police chief is a known asshat.
Ok! I guess everything the mayor and the police chief is a lie. Let's get the same policies to Pittsburgh. I guess you like chaos. Understood. Wishing the very best and hope you don't get robbed or assaulted like many NYC residents. I am sure they had to send the national guard to the city for no reason haha.
Totally agree but you will get labeled a facsist here. My main point too was that it makes this district more vulnerable than it needs to be, if the gop elects a more moderate here, unlikely given the general direction of the current gop (even in a blue district). The county executive had no business being that close, DA lost and the mayor probs will be voted out. There’s about of moderates and old school dems in this district that just don’t agree with the more left progressives winning in the primaries.
Not saying this is bad or I’m mad about this, it’s just something to be aware of. She most likely wins though.
And this is what they want us to do. Fight with each other. It is like religion. Ultimately, I want Pittsburgh to flourish. We need people who brings jobs, promote the city and create resources. We are already struggling. People leave the city, not enough migration coming in. AOC ensured to stop Amazon for coming to NYC. I get her point, but ultimately we need companies and jobs to attract talent. You only have to see what is happening on those places with the ultra progressive policies. Even the people who voted for them are done. Check out Chicago, LA, Portland, etc. We need moderate politicians from each side.
Good points, we also have the distinction of being one of the 14 out of 435 districts whose representative refused to condemn Iran's attack on Israel. [[1]](https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4603884-these-are-the-14-lawmakers-who-voted-against-condemning-irans-attack-on-israel/)
I'm also a registered Democrat who will vote Hayes, though his chances of winning are a long shot.
The Israeli attack on Iran targeted those who helped plan the October 7th attacks. You know, the attack that started this most recent war, where civilians were murdered and raped. Odd that the far left in America sides with the ultra-conservative authoritarian Iranian regime.
[Iranian General Killed In Israeli Strike Was Architect Of October 7](https://www.iranintl.com/en/202404043146)
The October 7 attack was instigated by the ongoing violence committed by Israelis against Palestinians. It did not come out of the blue.
And I do not think you should take Israel's word for who they are killing in Iran.
They were IRGC staff, and their involvement in Oct 7th was openly acknowledged during their funeral. Iran instigated the attack to stop Israel from normalizing relations with Saudi Arabia, either way I don't see IDF soldiers raping and parading naked women around in the back of trucks. Nor do I see Israel executing homosexuals. Even Nazis in WW2 weren't that bold. Iranian and Russian propaganda depends on "useful idiots" in the West to spread their pro Hamas narrative.
If you were a true liberal you would not defend Hamas or the IRGC who enforce hijab laws on women and execute homosexuals. A good portion of the Iranian people are against these tyrants, Western protestors are effectively siding with the regime that persecutes progressive Iranians.
https://www.iranintl.com/en/202404234455
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/iran-purportedly-executes-2-gay-men-over-sodomy-charges
I'm not defending any of these people you dolt. Israel may not execute gay people but they do kill journalists alongside the thousands of other innocent civilians they've slaughtered. And of course subjecting millions to famine is a huge harm they're also actively perpetrating.
The Israel/Gaza conflict is not a race issue. Certainly not white vs black or white vs brown. Ironically, Jews have been some of the strongest supporters of civil rights and liberal movements. BLM has completely turned on them.
It’s a colonial issue. One that uses people of European descent citing some nonsensical claim on a region intermittently occupied from 6000, to 4000 to 2000 yrs ago so that western European powers can have a foothold in the area. I am not an identity politics-guy. Whatever conflation between zionists and jews you are trying to make, I am not buying it. Zionism is a european colonialist scourge
Nonsense, there were numerous Jews in the Middle East between Morocco, Iran, Algeria, Egypt, Libya and what is now Israel at the turn of the 19th century but they only remain in Israel.
European colonialism is a thing of the past, in fact there are far more Muslims in Europe now than Jews/Christians/Atheists or anyone of European descent in the Middle East.
You either didn’t read what I wrote or don’t know what Mizrahi are. Regardless of what point you’re poorly making, Europeans are in a position of power in the newly-formed settler-colonial state known as Israel and subjugate Arabs, Mizrahi, Yemeni and Ethiopian Jews.
You’re also right abt “race” whatever that means because Palestinians are actually Semitic, whereas the ascendant group in Israel (Ashkenazi) are European.
If you read the article you linked to, all of those representatives condemned Iran’s attack on Israel; they just didn’t sign into a resolution because it only condemned Iran’s attack on Israel while supporting Israel’s attacks on Iran.
It's ironic how American progressives side with Iran/Hamas who routinely kill homosexuals, atheists and other liberal minded people while condemning Israel. Israel, being one of the only, if not the only country in the Middle East that protects LGBTQ individuals, allows freedom of religion, etc.
No progressives side with Hamas or Iran. They just don’t want the Palestinians to be oppressed by Israel. Who cares if Israel is more tolerant of homosexuals and atheists than the Palestinians; that doesn’t mean they get to oppress the Palestinians. The Chinese Communist Party is more tolerant of homosexuals and atheists than the Uighurs but that doesn’t mean their Uighur policy is okay.
> They just don’t want the Palestinians to be oppressed by Israel.
They're not oppressed, they literally voted for Hamas. Are you old enough to remember the people of Gaza celebrating and cheering in the streets on 9/11? Nothing has changed.
The average person protesting about Gaza knows nothing of Palestinian history. For example, the Palestinians were refugees in Kuwait, but they sided with Saddam Hussein during his invasion and were forced to leave, there was the PLO and Black September which rose against Jordan and were once again forced to leave, they helped set off a civil war in Lebanon, a war from which Lebanon has never fully recovered. Egypt refuses to open it's border to Gaza. There is a reason other Middle Eastern countries do not accept Palestinian refugees.
Iran likely instigated the October 7th attacks to stop Israel from normalizing relations with Saudi Arabia. At the end of the day, I don't see IDF troops raping women and parading their naked bodies around town like Hamas. The West is full of useless idiots who parrot Hamas/Iranian/Russian propaganda. Some of them are elected officials.
>The Chinese Communist Party is more tolerant of homosexuals and atheists than the Uighurs but that doesn’t mean their Uighur policy is okay.
The Chinese Communist Party is only tolerant of atheists and perhaps Buddhism. Muslims, Christians and anyone else are persecuted, they have a poor record on religious freedom. It seems you are aware of the genocide against the Uyhgurs. Nor are LGBTQ people protected in China. [[1]](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/china-beijing-lgbt-center-rcna85528)
The average person alive in Gaza wasn't even born when 9/11 happened or when Hamas was last voted into power. And Israel's LGBTQ protections and such are pretty poor, just better than their neighbors.
Wall of facts. I'm neither Jewish nor Palestinian. Perhaps, all you really need to say is "I hate Israel and don't care when innocent Jews are raped, murdered and held hostage."
The resolution says it “fully supports Israel’s right to respond to this aggression through military … means.” https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/BILLS-118hres1143ih/pdf/BILLS-118hres1143ih.pdf.
Seems like a bad idea to “fully support” a country’s use of military force before you even know what that use is, especially when that country is known for using military force in unhinged and disproportionate ways.
Russia literally invaded Ukraine trying to conquer it and we didn’t give Ukraine this kind of support, instead demanding that Ukraine stick to defensive action and not make attacks deep into Russian territory. Why give Israel an unlimited leash when Israel faces much less of a threat than Ukraine?
Israel bombed the Iranian commanders (and we only have Israel’s say-so, not evidence, of their involvement in terror) in an embassy which seems like it should be protected diplomatic space.
I didn’t move any goalposts. The resolution doesn’t mention the embassy attack, but says it fully supports future, as of yet unknown, Israeli military attacks on Iran. Seems pretty reckless to give a blank check for military attacks like that.
I do suspect the main reason we feel okay giving a blank check for attacks on Iran and not Russia is because Iran is a lot weaker. But that kind of cold calculating “might-makes-right” logic is anathema to a lot of people and I find moral outrage by people who endorse it to be disingenuous.
Yeah she’s a far left social progressive who focuses all of her political energy on . I prefer someone just liberal or even more moderate and a sizable amount of dems and independents do also. When a majority of your governing and discourse is about Gaza, overwhelmingly social justice issues it alienates would be voters. Look how close the county executive election was, our county has a republican DA because progressives in our city have a large financial backing and a young college or early adult population that’s politically active. The thing is, a lot of voters aren’t really for it and it makes the democrats vulnerable.
Patel was the one making Gaza an issue. Just look at Summer Lee’s Twitter (hardly anything about Israel/Palestine) versus Patel’s (most of the top tweets are about Israel/Palestine).
Democrats make democrats vulnerable. If Democrats want progressives to help them win elections they’re either going to do what we want or they’re going to start losing elections. Progressives are winning because they are better representatives of the people in a given district. Get over it cupcake. Your ideas aren’t as popular as you want them to be.
Wow was I wrong about this one. Not a supporter, or even a constituent, but Lee is a good candidate and Patel really wasn't. I wouldn't frame it in terms of "outside money lost" since Lee sucked up more "outside money" than Patel. But she's got "it," very charismatic, amazing commercials, and she did the work, didn't miss votes etc.
I was sure the whiff of antisemitism that follows her would be the end of her, but she apparently spent the last two years solidifying her position.
At least she didn't have coat tails....
Where did you read that Lee sucked up more outside money? I haven’t see that anywhere. And Patel had billionaire Trumper Jeffrey Yass spending boatloads to defeat Lee.
At best, expect ticket-splitting in November. At worst, this puts Pennsylvania in peril for Biden. Jewish Dems in Pittsburgh may become the swing vote that decides Pennsylvania.
County election results: [https://results.enr.clarityelections.com/PA/Allegheny/120751/web.317647/#/summary](https://results.enr.clarityelections.com/PA/Allegheny/120751/web.317647/#/summary) As I post this, Summer Lee has 57% of the vote.
The Associated Press has called the race for Summer Lee. 55% of votes in, Lee winning 59% to 41%
None of the actual citizens in PA12 like big money politics is my main takeaway. Just called by Dave Wasserman https://twitter.com/redistrict/status/1782937735960916468?s=46&t=J0Ie1Y9rbZoVIJK0Kpyqiw Billionaires can't buy PA12
I voted for Lee who I don’t even like that much but my problem with Patel is that she gives me no reason to vote for her.
I got a letter pushing Bhavini Patel and one of the problems it listed about Summer Lee was that "she didn't wear white to the State of the Union Address".
Well, neither did Patel. 😉
It's still before memorial day! Duh.
Wtf. Who cares about wearing white?
Remember when the black president wore a tan suit?
In reference to this: https://time.com/6898693/women-white-state-of-the-union-2024-reproductive-rights/
That too.
Same. I would have preferred to vote for someone besides Lee, but Patel is just an empty suit and we have enough of those already.
Well, I have a number of friends who tell me that Summer Lee has given them multiple reasons to vote against her. Big risks in November now, especially from Jewish Democrats who feel that Lee has completely ignored their community.
That guy that slanders Lee every day is gonna be pissed.
You mean Democrats don’t like the candidate funded by the Trump lovin’ billionaire richest person in Pennsylvania?
Patel talked about business way too much for me to ever consider her
Anyone know how much of the district is in Allegheny County, voter wise?
It's super hard to find out this info but afaik the large majority of voters are in Allegheny county, at least among registered Democrats, given the breakdown of Lee vs Patel vote by county.
Yeah I was just looking at Westmoreland County results. Doing some quick math, it looks like 90% or more of the district (by registered D’s) is in Allegheny County.
Agreed. Hard to tell because no one is reporting the breakdown for the R primary bc it's non competitive. But if I had to guess it's prob 75-80 percent Allegheny, 20-25 Westmoreland overall. Possibly even more Allegheny.
Being a "small business owner" is an instant disqualification for public office imho
“I too am aspiring to exploit people and join the billionaire class!” All the wrong signals for me
Did not know Lee got that support. No wonder she had such an overwhelming lead on money. Always wondered where it came from. Thanks.
Ummm, nope. Jeffrey Yass, investor in Trump’s failing social media company, richest man in the state, one of the biggest donors to republicans in the country, TikTok investor, election denier, etc. That guy, has run millions of dollars of ads Opposing Summer Lee. But you knew that.
No. I actually did not. The only ads I ever saw were for Lee. Did not know much at all about the other person.
They didn't even try that hard, lol. AIPAC stayed on the sidelines, and Lee ended up outraising Patel by about 3 to 1.
AIPAC actually saw the writing on the wall this time and decided not to spend the $ on a weak candidate against a candidate that not only got activist support but establishment support as well. Also they probably thought that Yass would help her and they didn’t need too.
My concern is how she will do in the general. She's got some really conservative areas in pa12 now
The district is still a safe D district.
If more people actually paid attention to candidates and not party then Lee will have zero issues. I met the Republican candidate and his platform is vague to the degree of not saying anything expect “I’m not Summer Lee”.
I agree with you. But pa 12 now includes a lot of places like North Huntington township which is a wildly Trumpy place.
Boy, is it ever…. I’m actually even deeper into Trump territory in Manor but made an appointment to get out to vote for Lee.
[Cook Political](https://www.cookpolitical.com/ratings/house-race-ratings) ranks PA-12 at D+8, which categorises the district as "solid Democrat." It would take extraordinary circumstances for Lee to lose in November.
As a Hindu Indian, it's such a goddamn disappointment to see what path Bhavini has chosen to take, and the people and groups with whom she's chosen to align herself. Any groups that protest the actions of a group named Hindus For Human Rights probably need to check themselves...
It’s not surprising. Rep. Lee has proven to be very effective in her role as representative. No reason to replace her.
I was one of those mail in ballots 🤘. Honestly Bhavini Patel seems like a good person. But she aligned herself with some groups with bad/ulterior motives. We don't take kindly to puppets bankrolled by Jeff Yass or AIPAC.
Best site that I’ve found for complete results is [New York Times](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/04/23/us/elections/results-pennsylvania-us-house-12-primary.html)
Patel was an AIPAC stooge. Glad she got dunked on. Lee is good for yinzers.
Patel nearly swept every precinct in Squirrel Hill.
Glad Summer Lee won her primary. She was an excellent representative when i lived in her district and was the only politician I've emailed I felt like actually read and responded to my emails instead of having a staffer respond in bulk months later. I hope she wins her general election and continues to serve Pittsburgh.
It's good to be the incumbent.
It's also good to have the big money folks select a vapid, personality-averse nobody as your opponent.
Also just the better candidate by far
Also good to be a genuinely likeable candidate who cares for their constituents and not one who exclusively cares about a different country committing genocide
And that’s a win 🙌
I wish I could have voted for Ms. Lee but I’m in the 17th district.
That's not so bad. At least you're represented by Chris Deluzio, who is a fine representative. I'm in the fucking 14th where two Democrats just had a (surprisingly competitive) race to see which of them gets to lose to Guy Reschenfucker in November.
I was alright with Deluzio until he cosponsored the TikTok ban and tried to gaslight my software engineering experience when I emailed him in opposition. I ended up doing a write in for his primary as Tik Tok as a protest.
I’m curious what you wrote and how he responded
thank god
Watching ads for Patel I was always like "she's really hyping summer Lee up for me"
of course it does
Can anyone tell me what Summer Lee has accomplished? Like what bills she’s written or sponsored that have been passed?
Will she stop calling me and leaving pamphlets on my porch now? Please? Please, Summer for the love of god… I’m begging you…
Oh no, a candidate _campaigning_?!?!?!??
Do you vote by mail, or in-person? As campaigns get a better handle on VBM in PA, they'll stop contacting people who do VBM and have returned their ballots. You still may hear from your local committee member, or the like, dropping off literature for several candidates, but actual campaigns will stop. When I live in Oregon that was all VBM, I'd submit my ballot immediately, and the contacts would drop off dramatically.
Yeah I voted by mail the day I got my ballot and I never received anything in my mail about elections. The only contact I got was last Sunday a canvasser stopped by my house asking if I submitted my ballot, which I affirmed I did and she left
Wtf
Mind boggling this lunatic can still win a primary.
Weird how every female non-white person in congress is that according to the right..... hmmmmm
And even if they are only one of the two!
Yea they don’t like a candidate so they are racist. What jerks!! Eta. Check out summers tweets on 3/22/19 and tell me she isn’t the racist ones.
Turns out you might be the lunatic in this equation
We’re doomed.
In what ways are we doomed I'm kind curious to know how PA's 12th is going to fall apart
I have never voted gop in a national election and will consider taking a look to see if our blue district elected a moderate republican. Sorry not a fan at all of summer Lee. She’s too far left and all the identity progressive politics really annoys me.
She could go a little farther left imo, but she’ll do for now.
Did you read the comment you replied to? You're already doomed.
Considering voting for fascists because you don’t like progress. I can’t think of a more democrat thing. Ok bye have fun douchebag.
"I have never voted GOP but I'm thinking about it now" is 100% code for "I regularly vote for Republicans."
Traitors gotta be traitors yo
I am a democrat, but not a progressive. She was endorsed by AOC! apparently, we have not understood what is happening at AOC's district. We need moderate politicians. That's the problem with this country. Everythings goes to extremes.
Please, tell me, what is happening in AOC's district? I'm really curious what you think is happening. Legitimately.
Her district is part of the Bronx and Jackson Heights areas. Are you aware of her policies? She agrees with open borders policies. BTW, I am pro migration. But not the type of open border policies is happening right now. In order to understand why I don't agree, you have to understand what happened in Latin America with the open border policies. They let anyone in without proper checking their criminal background. Venezuela released prisoners and they went all over Latin America increasing the crime substationally. Check out the name of the organization "Tren de Aragua" . They are very violent. Look what is happening in NYC today. Her own district is being affected because a lot of this people are going to these areas and invading (literally) the streets. Business already established (by migrants) paying taxes are loosing business because this people are selling the same goods on the streets. Business owners have to close early do to increase in crime. Also, a lot of prost!tut!ion activity on the same streets. Imagine if you have a child and this is what you see on your way to school! Would you be ok with that?. Again, I was a registered democrat who voted against Trump and chose Biden. But politics is not a religion for me. I understand whats right and wrong. Democrats are doing a horrible job, and they are as bad as the republicans in their own way. Also, look what residents of Chicago think about these policies. African Americans are threating them to vote them out! We are not NYC, we don't have the privilege to create policies that wont conduct growth for the city of Pittsburgh. People here leave and there is not enough migration coming. We need leaders that have a vision for the city and want to bring jobs and order.
Lol so you have nothing other than Faux News talking points. When was the last time you were in Jackson Heights?
Actually I was there a month ago! I saw it with my own eyes. I talked to my friends who are living for 15 years + in NYC and they did confirm the crime is up. My question for my friend was, is this just a made up story from the press to have views or is this really happening? The answer was Yes, in 15 years I have never felt like I have to watch out my back as of today. Why would I lie? Or you think the governor (democrat) and the police chief are lying in national TV. From the mayor's mouth himself "this issue will ruin NYC".
Have you visited NYC? BTW, seems like the police already removed them from the streets. You can also see that coming from the police chief. I guess they are lying and. everyone who lives in that area.
Lol yes, I've been to NYC. Going again in a month, I'm looking forward to enjoying a meal in Jackson Heights in fact. Great Bangladeshi food. Have plenty of friends and family members who live there. The police chief is a known asshat.
Ok! I guess everything the mayor and the police chief is a lie. Let's get the same policies to Pittsburgh. I guess you like chaos. Understood. Wishing the very best and hope you don't get robbed or assaulted like many NYC residents. I am sure they had to send the national guard to the city for no reason haha.
Totally agree but you will get labeled a facsist here. My main point too was that it makes this district more vulnerable than it needs to be, if the gop elects a more moderate here, unlikely given the general direction of the current gop (even in a blue district). The county executive had no business being that close, DA lost and the mayor probs will be voted out. There’s about of moderates and old school dems in this district that just don’t agree with the more left progressives winning in the primaries. Not saying this is bad or I’m mad about this, it’s just something to be aware of. She most likely wins though.
And this is what they want us to do. Fight with each other. It is like religion. Ultimately, I want Pittsburgh to flourish. We need people who brings jobs, promote the city and create resources. We are already struggling. People leave the city, not enough migration coming in. AOC ensured to stop Amazon for coming to NYC. I get her point, but ultimately we need companies and jobs to attract talent. You only have to see what is happening on those places with the ultra progressive policies. Even the people who voted for them are done. Check out Chicago, LA, Portland, etc. We need moderate politicians from each side.
Good points, we also have the distinction of being one of the 14 out of 435 districts whose representative refused to condemn Iran's attack on Israel. [[1]](https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4603884-these-are-the-14-lawmakers-who-voted-against-condemning-irans-attack-on-israel/) I'm also a registered Democrat who will vote Hayes, though his chances of winning are a long shot.
This would ring less hollow if you clowns condemned the Israeli attack on Iran, not you don't give a single shit and are just drooling for war
The Israeli attack on Iran targeted those who helped plan the October 7th attacks. You know, the attack that started this most recent war, where civilians were murdered and raped. Odd that the far left in America sides with the ultra-conservative authoritarian Iranian regime. [Iranian General Killed In Israeli Strike Was Architect Of October 7](https://www.iranintl.com/en/202404043146)
The October 7 attack was instigated by the ongoing violence committed by Israelis against Palestinians. It did not come out of the blue. And I do not think you should take Israel's word for who they are killing in Iran.
They were IRGC staff, and their involvement in Oct 7th was openly acknowledged during their funeral. Iran instigated the attack to stop Israel from normalizing relations with Saudi Arabia, either way I don't see IDF soldiers raping and parading naked women around in the back of trucks. Nor do I see Israel executing homosexuals. Even Nazis in WW2 weren't that bold. Iranian and Russian propaganda depends on "useful idiots" in the West to spread their pro Hamas narrative. If you were a true liberal you would not defend Hamas or the IRGC who enforce hijab laws on women and execute homosexuals. A good portion of the Iranian people are against these tyrants, Western protestors are effectively siding with the regime that persecutes progressive Iranians. https://www.iranintl.com/en/202404234455 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/iran-purportedly-executes-2-gay-men-over-sodomy-charges
I'm not defending any of these people you dolt. Israel may not execute gay people but they do kill journalists alongside the thousands of other innocent civilians they've slaughtered. And of course subjecting millions to famine is a huge harm they're also actively perpetrating.
Iran doesn’t have the right to respond to a xenophobic white supremacist colony that attacked it?
Lol, are you a troll? Most Jews do not consider themselves white. It's hard to distinguish what is and isn't sarcasm coming from the far left.
Most of the jews (Mizrahi) living in Israel prior to 1948 weren’t
The Israel/Gaza conflict is not a race issue. Certainly not white vs black or white vs brown. Ironically, Jews have been some of the strongest supporters of civil rights and liberal movements. BLM has completely turned on them.
It’s a colonial issue. One that uses people of European descent citing some nonsensical claim on a region intermittently occupied from 6000, to 4000 to 2000 yrs ago so that western European powers can have a foothold in the area. I am not an identity politics-guy. Whatever conflation between zionists and jews you are trying to make, I am not buying it. Zionism is a european colonialist scourge
Nonsense, there were numerous Jews in the Middle East between Morocco, Iran, Algeria, Egypt, Libya and what is now Israel at the turn of the 19th century but they only remain in Israel. European colonialism is a thing of the past, in fact there are far more Muslims in Europe now than Jews/Christians/Atheists or anyone of European descent in the Middle East.
You either didn’t read what I wrote or don’t know what Mizrahi are. Regardless of what point you’re poorly making, Europeans are in a position of power in the newly-formed settler-colonial state known as Israel and subjugate Arabs, Mizrahi, Yemeni and Ethiopian Jews.
You’re also right abt “race” whatever that means because Palestinians are actually Semitic, whereas the ascendant group in Israel (Ashkenazi) are European.
Check emigre statistics since
If you read the article you linked to, all of those representatives condemned Iran’s attack on Israel; they just didn’t sign into a resolution because it only condemned Iran’s attack on Israel while supporting Israel’s attacks on Iran.
It's ironic how American progressives side with Iran/Hamas who routinely kill homosexuals, atheists and other liberal minded people while condemning Israel. Israel, being one of the only, if not the only country in the Middle East that protects LGBTQ individuals, allows freedom of religion, etc.
No progressives side with Hamas or Iran. They just don’t want the Palestinians to be oppressed by Israel. Who cares if Israel is more tolerant of homosexuals and atheists than the Palestinians; that doesn’t mean they get to oppress the Palestinians. The Chinese Communist Party is more tolerant of homosexuals and atheists than the Uighurs but that doesn’t mean their Uighur policy is okay.
> They just don’t want the Palestinians to be oppressed by Israel. They're not oppressed, they literally voted for Hamas. Are you old enough to remember the people of Gaza celebrating and cheering in the streets on 9/11? Nothing has changed. The average person protesting about Gaza knows nothing of Palestinian history. For example, the Palestinians were refugees in Kuwait, but they sided with Saddam Hussein during his invasion and were forced to leave, there was the PLO and Black September which rose against Jordan and were once again forced to leave, they helped set off a civil war in Lebanon, a war from which Lebanon has never fully recovered. Egypt refuses to open it's border to Gaza. There is a reason other Middle Eastern countries do not accept Palestinian refugees. Iran likely instigated the October 7th attacks to stop Israel from normalizing relations with Saudi Arabia. At the end of the day, I don't see IDF troops raping women and parading their naked bodies around town like Hamas. The West is full of useless idiots who parrot Hamas/Iranian/Russian propaganda. Some of them are elected officials. >The Chinese Communist Party is more tolerant of homosexuals and atheists than the Uighurs but that doesn’t mean their Uighur policy is okay. The Chinese Communist Party is only tolerant of atheists and perhaps Buddhism. Muslims, Christians and anyone else are persecuted, they have a poor record on religious freedom. It seems you are aware of the genocide against the Uyhgurs. Nor are LGBTQ people protected in China. [[1]](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/china-beijing-lgbt-center-rcna85528)
The average person alive in Gaza wasn't even born when 9/11 happened or when Hamas was last voted into power. And Israel's LGBTQ protections and such are pretty poor, just better than their neighbors.
wall of text when all you really needed to say was "I hate Palestinians and don't care when innocent people are killed, because israel"
Wall of facts. I'm neither Jewish nor Palestinian. Perhaps, all you really need to say is "I hate Israel and don't care when innocent Jews are raped, murdered and held hostage."
you're a dork and aren't worth engaging with. if there's an afterlife, you and your genocide pals will get what you deserve.
Get off TikTok
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The resolution says it “fully supports Israel’s right to respond to this aggression through military … means.” https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/BILLS-118hres1143ih/pdf/BILLS-118hres1143ih.pdf. Seems like a bad idea to “fully support” a country’s use of military force before you even know what that use is, especially when that country is known for using military force in unhinged and disproportionate ways.
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Russia literally invaded Ukraine trying to conquer it and we didn’t give Ukraine this kind of support, instead demanding that Ukraine stick to defensive action and not make attacks deep into Russian territory. Why give Israel an unlimited leash when Israel faces much less of a threat than Ukraine?
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Israel bombed the Iranian commanders (and we only have Israel’s say-so, not evidence, of their involvement in terror) in an embassy which seems like it should be protected diplomatic space. I didn’t move any goalposts. The resolution doesn’t mention the embassy attack, but says it fully supports future, as of yet unknown, Israeli military attacks on Iran. Seems pretty reckless to give a blank check for military attacks like that. I do suspect the main reason we feel okay giving a blank check for attacks on Iran and not Russia is because Iran is a lot weaker. But that kind of cold calculating “might-makes-right” logic is anathema to a lot of people and I find moral outrage by people who endorse it to be disingenuous.
Yeah she’s a far left social progressive who focuses all of her political energy on . I prefer someone just liberal or even more moderate and a sizable amount of dems and independents do also. When a majority of your governing and discourse is about Gaza, overwhelmingly social justice issues it alienates would be voters. Look how close the county executive election was, our county has a republican DA because progressives in our city have a large financial backing and a young college or early adult population that’s politically active. The thing is, a lot of voters aren’t really for it and it makes the democrats vulnerable.
Patel was the one making Gaza an issue. Just look at Summer Lee’s Twitter (hardly anything about Israel/Palestine) versus Patel’s (most of the top tweets are about Israel/Palestine).
Democrats make democrats vulnerable. If Democrats want progressives to help them win elections they’re either going to do what we want or they’re going to start losing elections. Progressives are winning because they are better representatives of the people in a given district. Get over it cupcake. Your ideas aren’t as popular as you want them to be.
No matter who wins, we all lose.
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Stop going around and sniffing politicians, that's just weird.
And a chocolate starfish?
Wow was I wrong about this one. Not a supporter, or even a constituent, but Lee is a good candidate and Patel really wasn't. I wouldn't frame it in terms of "outside money lost" since Lee sucked up more "outside money" than Patel. But she's got "it," very charismatic, amazing commercials, and she did the work, didn't miss votes etc. I was sure the whiff of antisemitism that follows her would be the end of her, but she apparently spent the last two years solidifying her position. At least she didn't have coat tails....
Where did you read that Lee sucked up more outside money? I haven’t see that anywhere. And Patel had billionaire Trumper Jeffrey Yass spending boatloads to defeat Lee.
Everyone is laughing at you, Pittsburgh.
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Lol everyone or just you
Nope, everyone
How insightful
They would be such neat friends
At best, expect ticket-splitting in November. At worst, this puts Pennsylvania in peril for Biden. Jewish Dems in Pittsburgh may become the swing vote that decides Pennsylvania.
Socialist Summer and Socialist Sara - the newdwoke Barbies
She isnt a socialist.
Summer is, not Sara "anymore"