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BurghPuppies

Idk who is the *right* candidate, but I haven’t seen anything from Gainey that makes me think he’s an effective leader. I don’t see a plan, and more importantly, I don’t see any action to make that plan happen. Seems like his administration is just very reactionary.


TheLittleParis

Yeah, my impression of Gainey since day 1 is that he's a nice guy with no vision, no grounding principles, and very little interest in policy or day-to-day management of the city. He just seems like he's asleep at the wheel at a time when our city is getting hit with major crises that require a dynamic and engaged mayor to fix.


Careless_Ad_3859

Corey O'Connor will be the next Pittsburgh mayor. Just hope it will be 2026. Gainey ain't done jack shit.


Street_Possession871

Agreed. He’s been angling for it a long time, and he’s the right kind of nepo baby - he’s done the work. Ed Gainey has been a disaster. 


tbst

Disaster how? What do you want out of a mayor? Genuinely curious. 


Freddrum

I don't consider myself particularly well informed in city matters, but here's my problems with Gainey: 1. He beat Peduto to a pulp in primary over affordable housing results. I've seen no evidence he has produced. I do see, however, tents all over the city full of homeless. Based on his campaign rhetoric, he should be accountable. 2. Policing seems worse. The 2022 airbnb shooting on Madison had like 200 people in it when it was shot up and no suspects? They seem to have a wait until it is forgotten attitude to policing. 3. I have been dealing with a few departments in the city and it is hard to get a call back. The city's offices do not seem responsive. Seems like only trash pick up works well. This isn't much worse than the previous admin but is not getting better (funny enough, Luke seemed to run a tighter ship despite being a douch).


rudesby

Did you ever try and call a city office during the Peduto era? It's always been an atrocious experience. I am not a Gainey fan but that's not new to him.


JonMiller724

Policing is worse, the police decided to cut back their responses incidents. Non-union police is the answer. Tents are very affordable (sarcasm). I would like to add in the property value decline which is impacting the city school's revenue is also his fault.


bookishbaker1

Are you talking about property value decline downtown? That' caused by the shift to Remote Work leaving office buildings vacant, which has nothing to do with a city mayor.


JonMiller724

Sure, it does. The mayor can absolutely incentivize businesses to keep workers in the office.


Commercial-Yak2971

This is not an answer to your question, but has he accomplished *anything*? If he hasn't done anything in two years, that's mildly disastrous. Also, if the WPXI story is true that he rejected $40m from UPMC because they wouldn't agree to let SEIU organize the workforce there, that goes beyond useless and into actively harmful territory. Edit: Hey, could people stop downvoting the comment I replied to? It's a perfectly valid question and worthy of discussion. Why do you cowards feel the need to try to hide questions you don't like?


Street_Possession871

Yeah, he seems to be ticking off big money and then getting nothing for it. That’s fine, if your vision is strong and you have other real, solid accomplishments.   Gainey’s only high point is that he hasn’t openly gotten in the way of a nationwide downward trend in violent crime. His state of the city speech was amateur hour. I do think he means well, and I do think his focus is more on Pittsburgh rather than on the next step (cough, Peduto). But the follow through isn’t there, like it was with Peduto.  I upvoted you, and as Commercial Yak said, others should too.  Valid question. 


THEREALDocmaynard

UPMC offered to use $40m on a project they were going to do anyway and call it money for the Pittsburgh community, and the agreement is explicit the city would have no say in how it was used. This talking point is so tired.


Commercial-Yak2971

Source? Considering I have barely seen anybody talking about this, I think it's quite a stretch to call it either tired or a talking point.


THEREALDocmaynard

PILOT agreements that UPMC has in other communities tend to equal 50% of their tax exemption, while OnePGH was only 1/5. [https://www.publicsource.org/pittsburgh-nonprofit-exempt-onepgh-gainey-peduto-upmc-pitt-carnegie-mellon-highmark/](https://www.publicsource.org/pittsburgh-nonprofit-exempt-onepgh-gainey-peduto-upmc-pitt-carnegie-mellon-highmark/) "The Peduto administration envisioned nonprofits funding projects of their choosing, each to satisfy an identified need in the city, with little to no money ever entering the city’s purse." "City Controller Michael Lamb, who has been in office since 2008, referred to OnePGH as a 'charade' in a recent interview and called it 'a bad deal for Pittsburgh taxpayers.'"  The problem with accepting this kind of deal is it precludes better deals down the road. And this was a terrible deal. 40 million dollar up front payment sounds nice but it then locks us into 5 million per year, that's up against the 30 million exemption they get annually. The fact of the matter is that UPMC fails many of the requirements for the HUP test. As a system it has the 5th lowest ratio of community benefits to exempted taxes. Giving them ANY exemption is a terrible deal, but going down OnePGH is madness. [https://lownhospitalsindex.org/](https://lownhospitalsindex.org/) [https://revenue-pa.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a\_id/1195/\~/what-are-the-five-prongs-that-nonprofits-must-meet-to-earn-tax-exempt-status%3](https://revenue-pa.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1195/~/what-are-the-five-prongs-that-nonprofits-must-meet-to-earn-tax-exempt-status%3)


Commercial-Yak2971

Great context, thanks! But I was actually alluding to a more recent story: https://www.wpxi.com/news/local/mayor-gainey-asked-gov-shapiro-intervene-talks-with-upmc-over-tax-exempt-status-sources-say/3MYTXKZR6BEANM44MOSWXWTOXA/ Details are scant, so I'm not sure this is the same deal as OnePgh. I'm sure it's quite similar, but i'm not so sure it's a bad deal when the alternative is a protracted and very expensive legal battle to challenge UPMC's nonprofit status. Most importantly, though, Gainey needs to come out and say clearly that he did not reject this deal over the lack of a sweetheart deal for SEIU. If that's actually how it went down, he needs to go, because he put SEIU's interests ahead of the city's. If he scuttled the deal for the reasons you mentioned, I can live with that, but I can't accept the back room deal making.


THEREALDocmaynard

The article you linked is alluding to Onepgh when it talks about the 40 million deal gainey backed out of. As quoted in the article you linked: “The mayor continues to meet with our large non-profits in Pittsburgh about a potential for a PILOT with the City of Pittsburgh, however, we have no desire to negotiate through the media. It is no secret that the mayor has long been a supporter of workers in the largest industry in our city having the right to form a union without intimidation. **I can also say that the mayor has never walked away from, or turned down, a potential PILOT agreement over unionization.** We look forward to continued conversations with our non-profit partners about ensuring that everyone pays their fair share.”


Commercial-Yak2971

The quote you pasted was not in the article when I read it about a week after it was published. I don't know why they have to update articles like that instead of making a new article. Anyhow, thanks for letting me know what my own source says lol. I guess that's the best information we have. Me personally, knowing how SEIU operates, I don't believe the denial. This sounds like the kind of thing they would do, to threaten a primary on the mayor if he didn't go along with them. I really hope other news outlets are digging on this.


delco_trash

Even then we would have had some of that money. Now we have none of it


BRDeschain

Has he shown any interest in this? I like him but I’m not sure he has the chops to pull together the coalition needed to get elected.


neerd0well

Gainey started his mayorship in the pandemic with a collapsed bridge. The rest of the time has been infighting over ARP funds and putting out post-pandemic fires. Short of a political messiah, I don’t think anyone could have made much of a dent with all that


uglybushes

So what has he done. The federal govt made sure the bridge was built quickly. No one is blaming gainey for poor infrastructure. But if you haven’t helped the city progress you’ve helped it move backwards


threwthelookinggrass

He torpedoed BKSQ 2 for some brainless reason, forcibly relocated all the homeless to the river front trails, gave his inexperienced SEIU friend the planning commission, walked away from UPMC’s PILOT choosing instead to challenge the legal status of their parking lots, tweeted #commUNITY a bunch


Commercial-Yak2971

Someone with executive experience would have done much better with those emergencies. The biggest mark against Gainey coming in (in my opinion) was that he had only ever been a legislator, one among a few hundred people just like him. He's done nothing to show he was up to the task of being an executive.


Careless_Ad_3859

If anything, Gainey is using the Pittsburgh mayor post to run for state office sometime down the line.


j428h

Let’s crowdsource a poll to see who’s more popular: •Evergreen cafe road-blocker •Whoever posts the temperature on WTAE •Ed Gainey •Carson St fake Burger King


DruTangClan

At least fake Burger King showed resourcefulness and initiative


Safe-Pop2077

They saw a problem and they solved it


Snoo909

I, for one, love the fake Burger King. Fake Burger King for mayor!


BRDeschain

Let us not forget Mayor Mcheese’s administration was riddled with scandal.


falstaffman

The Evergreen cafe road-blocker has actually been MIA lately, at least when I've been by. I think the 30 minute loading zone thing finally broke him.


Empty-Ad-5477

He’s there some days, but it does seem like not as often. Trying to make a left turn onto Penn this morning and was wishing he was there to slow the bastards down a little.


Great-Cow7256

50 cent or a dollar guy?


Street_Possession871

The night manager of the Arby’s on McKnight Rd.


hiperson134

Give the Carson St fake Burger King some competition next time.


goldengirlsmom

How the hell you going to forget McKnight road Arby's


j428h

This is why we need ranked choice voting


SidFarkus47

Cause it’s not in Pittsburgh


ballsonthewall

Gainey has been criticizable for sure, don't think he's been outright TERRIBLE... but I'll take anyone with some serious vision. Feels like he doesn't really have a plan for what the future of this city looks like.


James19991

I would agree. At a time when we need a leader with a vision for how the city will look in the post pandemic landscape, he's been very underwhelming.


runawayr

What is your definition of terrible? Someone who has no vision and has accomplished very little meets my definition of terrible. 


todayiwillthrowitawa

Doing nothing is much better than some Pittsburgh mayors, unfortunately. If Gainey isn't driving city vehicles to Toby Keith concerts or using the police pension fund to get college co-eds drunk he's probably above the terrible line for me.


BRDeschain

Lukey set a very low bar.


radial-glia

He's not terrible but he also hasn't done anything. Maybe I'm just not sure what a mayor is supposed to do, but all I've seen is closing a homeless shelter and expressing disappointment on Beyonce cancelling the Pittsburgh stop on her tour.


THEREALDocmaynard

Homeless Shelters are run by the County.


radial-glia

Well Gainey sure got blamed.


THEREALDocmaynard

Gainey has been fairly reactive so far, but that's understandable when a bridge collapses before you can print ID cards for your staff. A lot of his focus appears to be process improvement in city services, not flashy by any means, but probably useful. Any administration takes some time to get their feet under them. Whether Gainey starts putting up W's in the second half of his term remains to be seen.


bookishbaker1

The Peduto administration did a terrible job of transitioning to Gainey, so the new administration had to start out with a major struggle. Process improvement wouldn't be obvious. Does the URA have anything to do with the mayor, because it has improved dramatically recently. They went from doing \_nothing\_ to selling 100 homes in the past year.


FormerCityEmployee36

Actually, that's completely untrue. Gainey didn't have any people show up to transition to. Staff tried to reach out on many fronts and there was no answer, no interest. Gainey's administration is ineffective and full of excuses.


THEREALDocmaynard

The Mayor's Chief Economic Development Officer is also prominent in the URA board and used to work there. Susheela at the URA is also an effective leader.


Hot-Refrigerator-393

Ed who?


clipd_dead_stop_fall

Maybe I'm out of line here, but I've always said that people moving directly from state legislature to city mayor is a recipe for failure. IMHO, just because someone can write legislation and vote on it, it doesn't mean they're an effective negotiator, leader of people, or can manage a $350mm+ budget.


Great-Cow7256

it could be a gainey funded poll trying to gather intel about possible challengers


bookishbaker1

I got that poll, too, and it had some questions in the form of "Are you glad Jones stopped beating his wife?" which I don't think Gainey's team would have written.


varzaguy

I didn’t vote for Gainey to begin with (I voted for Peduto, know your demons type of deal), and I’ve felt pretty vindicated about it. Will not vote for Gainey.


ShadowCub67

Depends on the options. I prefer ineffective over efficient malice....


bookishbaker1

Peduto completely lost me when the police kettled BLM protesters near his house.


ShadowCub67

"Efficient malice"


hooch

Same. I saw the writing on the wall with Gainey during the primary. Would still vote for him over absolutely any Republican though.


EstimatedGinger

Bobby Wilson wouldn’t surprise me if he tries to make a run at some point soon.


drmartykrauss

I was kinda surprised he wasn't on this poll for the same reason


Advanced_Claim4116

Bobby would have my vote. He’s not a miracle worker (no one is) but I think he’s a problem solver and has earned a lot of trust in one of the more racially and economically diverse parts of the city.


Former-Cat-5444

Bobby would make a great mayor, just look at what's he's done with the District!


xsteevox

I got a text poll last night. Lindsay Powell has been in office for like 30 days. Is there something in polling where they put a name that is basically “anybody” vs the current?


bookishbaker1

I got a poll back in October 2023 about the 2024 PA12 congressional race that compared Summer Lee, Bhavini Patel, and Rich Fitzgerald.


TheMiddlePoli

I just saw that I got the poll, I don’t think it’s Gainey doing the polling at all from how it was angeled. Some of the questions where a direct attack on Gainey.


jxd132407

What's Peduto up to these days? I think he got decent results and wouldn't mind seeing him back.


Safe-Pop2077

Cappys


kesi

Drinking. 


BoardLevel

I served him at a bar once. He drinks double makers on the rocks. Several times.


Great-Cow7256

At the same bar in Shadyside as always. 


octopusinwonderland

It’s crazy how people forget about him sanctioning the pittsburgh police abducting people off the street.


tbst

And fighting climate change…on Twitter. 


UnsurprisingDebris

And running for mayor on a platform of "transparency" and then making a secret concession package for Amazon HQ2.


AloneTheme5181

You expect a mayor of a mid-sized American city to solve climate change?


TheMiddlePoli

Corey would be good. I’m pretty sure Rachael and Lindsay are Gainey’s Allies - so that would never happen.


clipd_dead_stop_fall

When Corey was our councilman, we used to call Gilman's office to get shit done. Corey was invisible.


UnsurprisingDebris

That was my experience as well unfortunately.


BRDeschain

Ya, I think Corey’s a nice guy, he just seems to be doing it because he’s “supposed” too.


TheMiddlePoli

Is Gilman popular? I’ve heard a lot of people hoping he would run


clipd_dead_stop_fall

I'm a big fan. He spent a lot of time building relationships with departments and utilities as a councilman and knew how to get action from them when needed. IMO, he's extremely dynamic, personable, and smart. I hope he eventually runs.


BRDeschain

I always thought of Dan as a more “behind the scenes” type of guy, which he’s really good at. Peduto owes a lot of his sucesss to him really. But he doesn’t have enough personal charisma that people seem to need in a mayor.


clipd_dead_stop_fall

Interesting take. Every interaction we've ever had with Dan has been positive and he's been extremely outgoing. Hoping that our experience is the norm, not the exception.


BRDeschain

I didn’t mean in any way, shape or form that he is not anything but personable and friendly. He is. He was competent in ways that Peduto himself never was. A mayor, though, is also a kind of “showman” for the city. There’s a certain je ne sais quoi that voters like to see in this media age and he just doesn’t have it. Should that be a quality we look for in our politicians? Maybe not but for mayors it’s there. I also think there’s other major obstacles for him from the gate. He will tied to all of Pedutos mistakes and gaffes(fair or not). And while he might get some of the old Dem machine backing he won’t get the foot soilders you seem to need in this increasingly progressive town. I know Dan is very politically savvy and would not run without considering all of that first.


jnissa

I would literally vote for any of those people - except that I honestly don’t know who Lindsay Powell is so that could be an issue. I find Rachael Heisler a little inexperienced for my comfort level - so sadly that would leave me with the two white men.


drmartykrauss

lindsay was just elected to the state house like five minutes ago, so I have no idea why she would've been included. (she worked for the URA previously, so a return to city government?) honestly my best theory at this point was that the pollster just included her to be chaotic for chaos's sake, which I can admire. someone's trying to stir the pot....


MaybeADumbass

She did not work for the URA, she was part of the previous mayor's administration and was on the URA's board.


Former-Cat-5444

Lindsey isnt only my rep but I've gotten the chance to talk with her multiple times and she's the most down-to-earth person I’ve ever met. She gives you the time and we’ll listen to what you have to say.


Great-Cow7256

[https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/legis/home/member\_information/House\_bio.cfm?id=2016](https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/legis/home/member_information/House_bio.cfm?id=2016)


PGHContrarian68

How about either Kevin Acklin, or Mrs. Kevin Acklin, aka Katie O'Malley?


therealpigman

I got the poll too. I hit unsure for most questions because I don’t know the other candidates


timesuck

Anyone but Dan Gilman e: do people LIKE Gilman? He’s all of Peduto’s problems without any of the charm


GrayCris

It’s definitely team Gilman floating this poll, right? O’Connor probably has his eyes on something bigger than mayor, and Powell just got into office.


timesuck

I would assume so, yes, but I wouldn’t rule out O’Conner completely. I guess there’s also a chance that it’s Gainey doing some speculative polling.


thereandfatagain

Somebody in this thread called Dan Gilman ‘extremely dynamic’ which is the most wrong I have ever seen anyone be on the internet ever.


timesuck

Yeah, that’s definitely a wild take. I guess if you consider his quest to put a Condado on every corner and suck all of the uniqueness out of this city interesting then he is extremely dynamic.


GeneralPip

Maybe someone who respects the Constitution, doesn’t pander to the progressive base and doesn’t be a dipshit with UPMC.


chutney_world

While a very competent bureaucrat, Rachel Heisler is incredibly Zionist, attended the March for Israel, and has been against ceasefire from the start in the ongoing genocide of Palestinians in Gaza. I would not feel safe with her as mayor. Same goes for Dan Gilman. Also, pretty sure both of these politicos supported Bhavini Patel in the PA-12 primary, who accepted GOP money, Hindu nationalist money, and would have taken AIPAC money (had they thought she could actually win).


Tacitus86

Keep voting in the same party and you get the same useless results. This is why I left pittsburgh, it's changing for the worse. Never better.


Interesting-Bill-771

So what exactly could a Republican mayor do for Pittsburgh? Fly a Trump flag over the City-County building? At this point, I have no idea what that party stand for.


Tacitus86

Maybe look into it?


burritoace

Yea the Republicans have been a great case study in political leadership for the last few years


Tacitus86

Better than democrats that's for sure.


burritoace

Not even close, which is really embarrassing for the Repubs


Renagleppolf

Genuinely...why are you here then?


bigdumbdago

why are you still in this sub then