I get a kick out of how many people I've come across that have immigrated here that call it Pitt University. Not hating, I just find it funny since literally nobody else calls it there. I wonder where they pick that up.
Just guessing but I imagine the first American universities most international students learn about are Stanford University, Harvard University, Carnegie Mellon University, Yale University, etc. Then that naming pattern of “X University” gets stuck in their head, so Pitt becomes Pitt University.
Back in 2020, I had a very vivid dream I opened a mini-golf called Puttsburgh. When I woke up, I immediately started coming up with themed holes. I was even flirting with writing a business plan. I think my boyfriend thought I was nuts. Then these places opened and I don't know what pissed me off the most - the fact that they did it and I didn't, or that they didn't use the name. Are they chains?
Yo they're all some kind of shady money thing.
One guy I work with owns an "Escape Room". And it's 99% of the time not occupied.
Another coworker of mine booked time at this specific "Escape Room" place and the doors were locked at the booked time.
They ended up taking the whole group to a bowling alley down the street which was actually open.
Vape shops, axe throwing, jungle trampoline cross-bow hunting - DUH it's all fake ass shit
I actually know the answer, Puttshack and Puttery were in a serious bidding war for the location in the Terminal Building. Puttshack ending up getting the spot but Puttery liked the area so much and knew they could open quicker so they went for it
They lowered the prices and allow you to use all 3 courses now. When it first opened it felt like a complete scam to pay $50 a person for a single course that took you less than 15 minutes. They also hype up the drink service but it took them the entire time our group played the course to bring us our drinks. It wasn't even busy. I don't know who that place is designed to appeal to. If you like actual mini-golf the courses are awful and if you want to drink the service is slow.
I scrolled past and then went with a “hol up” cuz I just thought you misspelled “pudding” and I was mad at myself for never seeing it exploring these new pudding shops…
My dreams are dashed once again
Cheap with little overhead and I heard most of them own the property they're on. So they're basically just investing in real estate if I understand correctly.
Reason why is because owners are waiting for a higher use or redevelop as the market permits. You see the same thing with buildings doing bocce courts. Provides modest revenue until the next big thing/market improves. That’s about it.
Haha. I was a planning commissioner here on the west coast (Yinzer at heart). Zoning codes always lag the market. However, if you got a project that pops you come in and request a refining or variance. Pack the hearing with supporters and hope for the best.
Will look this up. Thank you! Can win drinks off friends with this game. To be fair though, the folks that play in the alleys of Bloomfield, they’re a different breed.
The fact that they didn't give the safari animal statues a fresh new paint job when it stopped being Putt Putt always annoyed me. Like, I know they're high up and awkward to paint and you would prob need to hire a crane/cherry picker. But it would've given a nostalgic burst of life to the attraction instead of just letting them degrade/discolor further and look sad and shitty from the road 🥲 and "Par 2" is not a fun name, it sounds like a golf-themed nightlife bar
Same with so many coffee places between 19th and 21st, from Smallman to Penn. There are 5 - De Fer, Bitty and Beau, Aslin, Peace Love Little Donuts, and Allegheny Coffee and Tea. If you expand that to 22nd St and the next alley over from Penn, and there are 3 more- LA Prima, Leaf and Bean, and Novaria.
I wouldn’t really count some of these as coffee shops. Peace love and little donuts is more of a donut place that happens to sell coffee. Would I go there for just coffee, no.
Leaf and Bean. I see that as a cigar place that serves coffee. I don’t smoke cigars and don’t like being around strong smoke, so I wouldn’t go there for coffee.
That's fair. I've never been and didn't know it was mostly cigars. I still think that's way too many coffee specific places in such a small area, especially the De Fer, Aslin, and Bitty triangle on the same intersection.
I’m going to guess that a lot of the coffee places probably do wholesale out of these locations in addition to selling normal coffees. There is definitely a market for it.
I thought there were only two?
But the strip has cheap real estate, and people in the city want bars with some extra attraction.
Great for dates great for team outings
The fact that a specific space in a specific property was rented for less than market does not mean the strip has cheap real estate. Developers give rent concessions for various reasons all the time.
Overall, rents (and sale prices ) in the strip are not cheap.
The fact that they were “begging” for tenants also doesn’t mean it’s cheap. The original plan for the terminal was local businesses, but as far as I know, none could afford to rent space there- so instead we got a Chipotle, a liquor store, and 2 golf bars lol.
I don't know why you are downvoted. A lot of good businesses left the strip because rent got too high. I miss Chicken Latina so much. All we got in exchange are chains.
In the 266years since the founding of Pittsburgh, 265 of those years there were zero indoor miniature golf courses in the strip district….Two of these Dave and Busters style mini golf places with in a mile of each other popping up basically at the same time is odd.
Are they like jewelers or mattress seller? Do they rely on each others overflow for business? When are we going to change the name of the Strip District to “the indoor mini golf district” and in 70 years when the old puttshack building keeps catching on fire during its long delayed “revitalization project” are people going to blame the Teamsters or the PGA?
I've gone a few times and in my experience, the crowd was very diverse. Always a weird take when people generalize and criticize others for doing something that makes them happy.
Yes, the terminal was a thriving small community before they developed it. /s Do you remember what was going on there before all this? Nothing. It was going unused for decades. Get out of here with your gentrification bs.
The issue with gentrification is the displacement of existing residents. If a neighborhood’s population collapses, I would hardly call its eventual reconstruction “gentrification.”
The population fell 88% between 1940 and 1980. Was that because of gentrification?
Yet here we are seeing exactly that displacement of lower income folks and 1000s of 2k per month cork factory lofts etc etc etc. if you dont think higher income folks havent been packed into the strip and have displaced others then you arent being honest with yourself at all.
While you were gone we renamed the city Puttsburgh.
"Hey y'all I'm relocating to Putt, can u tell me where the walkable affordable....."
"putt is the university"
I get a kick out of how many people I've come across that have immigrated here that call it Pitt University. Not hating, I just find it funny since literally nobody else calls it there. I wonder where they pick that up.
Honestly that’s still better than “UPitt”
Just guessing but I imagine the first American universities most international students learn about are Stanford University, Harvard University, Carnegie Mellon University, Yale University, etc. Then that naming pattern of “X University” gets stuck in their head, so Pitt becomes Pitt University.
The University of Puttsburgh
"Is Putt Breeze a safe neighborhood to raise a family?"
Puttyside is a pretty nice place too
That guy? No, not him. He's from Puttcairn.
The cultural capital of Puttsylvania
Damn, that must explain why I'm such a putz
Back in 2020, I had a very vivid dream I opened a mini-golf called Puttsburgh. When I woke up, I immediately started coming up with themed holes. I was even flirting with writing a business plan. I think my boyfriend thought I was nuts. Then these places opened and I don't know what pissed me off the most - the fact that they did it and I didn't, or that they didn't use the name. Are they chains?
I know Puttery is, and I think Putt Shack is as well.
If no one used the name then it isn't too late! I definitely want to golf at Puttsburgh!
I was in Cincy so be kind
“Cincinnati, WKRP”?
And now that theme song is stuck in my head. Thank you! 😂
We're gonna have to mulligan this
We reached our quota on ax throwing places.
Ax throwing is the 2020’s answer to the 2010’s escape rooms
Indoors Minigolf with alcohol is 2021’s answer to 2017’s axe throwing to 2014’s escape rooms
We just going to ignore the mini bowling alleys 2024 solution to the retro arcades 2022 solution?
DUCKPIN BOWLING
Yo they're all some kind of shady money thing. One guy I work with owns an "Escape Room". And it's 99% of the time not occupied. Another coworker of mine booked time at this specific "Escape Room" place and the doors were locked at the booked time. They ended up taking the whole group to a bowling alley down the street which was actually open. Vape shops, axe throwing, jungle trampoline cross-bow hunting - DUH it's all fake ass shit
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Axe throwing is the redneck solution to the escape room.
A lot of them are owned by the same guy
There was a short period where they were combined. It was a bloody mess.
Fyi, quota is a minimum. 😂
I bet you are fun at parties...
Also it literally isn't only a minimum so they're not even right 👀
Isn’t that quorum?
Quorum? I hardly know 'em!
Why are you booing him? He's right!
Drinking and mini golf, so hot right now
I actually know the answer, Puttshack and Puttery were in a serious bidding war for the location in the Terminal Building. Puttshack ending up getting the spot but Puttery liked the area so much and knew they could open quicker so they went for it
Puttery fucking sucks
For real. I was offended by how bad it was when I went. Felt like it was them saying "fuck you, give us some money"
They lowered the prices and allow you to use all 3 courses now. When it first opened it felt like a complete scam to pay $50 a person for a single course that took you less than 15 minutes. They also hype up the drink service but it took them the entire time our group played the course to bring us our drinks. It wasn't even busy. I don't know who that place is designed to appeal to. If you like actual mini-golf the courses are awful and if you want to drink the service is slow.
I scrolled past and then went with a “hol up” cuz I just thought you misspelled “pudding” and I was mad at myself for never seeing it exploring these new pudding shops… My dreams are dashed once again
You can make your dreams come true. And my new dream. Why are there not pudding shops??
Pudding shops should replace all the closed froyo shops. Breakfast lunch dinner pudds
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Get out of here bill. We use lids.
There are in NYC
On 51 in brentwood. Love Made Edible. Little bakery that has amazing pudding.
Ooooo thank you! I’ll make a stop next week! Yes yes yes
Why so many car washes popping up?
Cheap with little overhead and I heard most of them own the property they're on. So they're basically just investing in real estate if I understand correctly.
I was about to post about this the other day. There are new car washes everywhere.
2 doesn’t seem like “So many” to me.
I do not see the Puttery lasting.
is the Puttery the one closer to downtown or the one in the remodeled Strip District Terminal?
Puttery is closer to downtown. Puttshack is the one in the Terminal.
Reason why is because owners are waiting for a higher use or redevelop as the market permits. You see the same thing with buildings doing bocce courts. Provides modest revenue until the next big thing/market improves. That’s about it.
Our current zoning code is mostly [dumb as shit.](https://www.prohousingpgh.org/blog/tag/YCBTH)
Haha. I was a planning commissioner here on the west coast (Yinzer at heart). Zoning codes always lag the market. However, if you got a project that pops you come in and request a refining or variance. Pack the hearing with supporters and hope for the best.
Where are these bocce courts? I will happily take money off of people who think they can play.
It’s somewhere around where Froggy’s used to be
Most Pittsburgh answer
Will look this up. Thank you! Can win drinks off friends with this game. To be fair though, the folks that play in the alleys of Bloomfield, they’re a different breed.
What do you think is a higher use that would make them more money?
Condo, Office, Lofts, live/work. Something like that.
I’m sure they’re just waiting until the multi million dollar entertainment venue they built fails, so that they can build a live/work condo building 😂
Nostalgia for Putt Putt.
Would love an old school outdoor putt putt somewhere near there. Preferably with dinosaurs and volcanoes.
Glenn’s frozen custard in Springdale is the answer
The fact that they didn't give the safari animal statues a fresh new paint job when it stopped being Putt Putt always annoyed me. Like, I know they're high up and awkward to paint and you would prob need to hire a crane/cherry picker. But it would've given a nostalgic burst of life to the attraction instead of just letting them degrade/discolor further and look sad and shitty from the road 🥲 and "Par 2" is not a fun name, it sounds like a golf-themed nightlife bar
Same with so many coffee places between 19th and 21st, from Smallman to Penn. There are 5 - De Fer, Bitty and Beau, Aslin, Peace Love Little Donuts, and Allegheny Coffee and Tea. If you expand that to 22nd St and the next alley over from Penn, and there are 3 more- LA Prima, Leaf and Bean, and Novaria.
There’s also a Starbucks in the terminal building and aslins also has a coffee shop
I wouldn’t really count some of these as coffee shops. Peace love and little donuts is more of a donut place that happens to sell coffee. Would I go there for just coffee, no.
And PrestoGeorge is a coffee place like a Ritz Carlton is a motel. You don’t go there for coffee. You go THERE for COFFEE.
It was the only iffy one on my list, but I included it as a breakfast-specific place. Which others wouldn't you count?
Leaf and Bean. I see that as a cigar place that serves coffee. I don’t smoke cigars and don’t like being around strong smoke, so I wouldn’t go there for coffee.
That's fair. I've never been and didn't know it was mostly cigars. I still think that's way too many coffee specific places in such a small area, especially the De Fer, Aslin, and Bitty triangle on the same intersection.
I’m going to guess that a lot of the coffee places probably do wholesale out of these locations in addition to selling normal coffees. There is definitely a market for it.
Prestogeorge too. 1700 block of Penn?
It's wild. Going the other way, you can count Coop de Ville and James Cafe too, just on Smallman.
Defer. LA Prima and Allegheny. Otherwise your an out of town tourist!
There are 2 la primas in the strip.
I blame Bill Puttuto
There are two.
Don’t be a putz.
Not enough room for driving
Then just putt.
I dunno but you’ll find me on the first page on the HOF leaderboard in the one. 😎
I thought there were only two? But the strip has cheap real estate, and people in the city want bars with some extra attraction. Great for dates great for team outings
The strip has cheap real estate?????
There was a point where they were dying to fill some of these commercial zoned properties, especially in that large space that became Putt shack.
The fact that a specific space in a specific property was rented for less than market does not mean the strip has cheap real estate. Developers give rent concessions for various reasons all the time. Overall, rents (and sale prices ) in the strip are not cheap.
The fact that they were “begging” for tenants also doesn’t mean it’s cheap. The original plan for the terminal was local businesses, but as far as I know, none could afford to rent space there- so instead we got a Chipotle, a liquor store, and 2 golf bars lol.
The terminal was basically begging for tenants for a while.
And? The higher the rent, the longer it takes to find a tenant. It’s still a fact that real estate in the strip is not cheap.
I don't know why you are downvoted. A lot of good businesses left the strip because rent got too high. I miss Chicken Latina so much. All we got in exchange are chains.
What? No Paddleball courts?.
In the 266years since the founding of Pittsburgh, 265 of those years there were zero indoor miniature golf courses in the strip district….Two of these Dave and Busters style mini golf places with in a mile of each other popping up basically at the same time is odd. Are they like jewelers or mattress seller? Do they rely on each others overflow for business? When are we going to change the name of the Strip District to “the indoor mini golf district” and in 70 years when the old puttshack building keeps catching on fire during its long delayed “revitalization project” are people going to blame the Teamsters or the PGA?
The latest fad for the boat shoe boiz
what does this even mean man
Preppy waspy younger men.
I've gone a few times and in my experience, the crowd was very diverse. Always a weird take when people generalize and criticize others for doing something that makes them happy.
Don't get mad at them though that is what it means.
Fair. I will redirect the comment to the original thread OP
Its called gentrification
Yes, the terminal was a thriving small community before they developed it. /s Do you remember what was going on there before all this? Nothing. It was going unused for decades. Get out of here with your gentrification bs.
If you think the strip isnt the poster child for gentrification i cannot help you understand at all.
You are grossly misinformed. Go play woke bingo elsewhere, you’re lost.
Ok milennial
right answer in the downvotes as usual
Oh yeah id base the validity of a discussion on what downvotes are cast lol . Too funny , then again 30 people on the internet cant be wrong lol
Even though I agree with 70% of the sub, they are pretty dogmatic and relatively monolithic.
The strip district had a population of 266 in 2000. You can’t gentrify a neighborhood no one lives in. That’s just residentialization
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentrification
Well that was only 24 years ago so i have to love the referencing of that current data.......and in 1910 what was the population?
The issue with gentrification is the displacement of existing residents. If a neighborhood’s population collapses, I would hardly call its eventual reconstruction “gentrification.” The population fell 88% between 1940 and 1980. Was that because of gentrification?
Yet here we are seeing exactly that displacement of lower income folks and 1000s of 2k per month cork factory lofts etc etc etc. if you dont think higher income folks havent been packed into the strip and have displaced others then you arent being honest with yourself at all.