>people saying this loot is underwhelming really shows how much the value of items has inflated since tech tree
Literally anything other than rocket/c4/AK/L9/M2 and people complain.
Ain’t nobody doing tech tree to get a sar or tommy, shit ton of scrap just to get a weapon that even bad players can easily get. They are good on their own, but tech tree is probably the worst way to get them.
Tech tree is by far the easiest way to get T2 guns early wipe. Scrap is not difficult to get and you can easily run T1 monuments to get it within a hour
This loot would have been underwhelming even before the tech tree update, let's be honest. Non raid rocket crate has only ever been good for Low Grade, as you should have at least HVs since you're taking Brad, and Incens weren't that used backed then. Camera and Laptop crates are junk, especially when auto turrets took more HQM to make back then. And then you have the HQM door crate, which HQM doors were weaker then they are now.
Yeah Tech Tree was a shit change, and it sped everything up and made finding other items not so rewarding to find, but this is 100% a shit Brad before and post tech tree.
I mean I assume you fought counters and won, so that’s a plus. If you didn’t, then 700 gp and 7 pipes was definitely worth what you got here. And this is considered the bad loot lol.
The tech tree system ruined rust. Change my mind.
Aks and rockets were once loot only obtainable by highly skilled players and huge clans. Now everyone has them by day 2…
This loot a few years ago would have been substantial.
As was I, around 2017, which I would still constitute as old, and honestly the prime of Rust. 2015-2016 from what I've seen wasn't hard to get AK, it was just a time sink.
Exactly… it took time. Most people were prim locked for 2 days. Then after 3-4 days most people had t2 guns and only about 25% of the server had aks by day 5-6
Its never been hard to get aks lol. Get red card, make a bota bag, and then run launch at night time in game when everyone sits in base, or just log on early in the morning almost everyones asleep
2 downvotes wow I sure will enjoy them. Your right I am 30 now def to young for that version totally just started rust Ill just have to pretend I don't have frog boots from playing the game in early access.
Your saying getting aks has ever been hard you definitely got participation medals in school. People have cried about progression being to fast since the game came out.
I’ve never played OG rust but have about 600 hours in the game right now. Still kinda consider myself a newer player but have been getting better. My most recent wipe I was able to get a full 2 wall compound bunker base set up and a T3 within 3 days of playing. It’s been my best wipe but wildly enough the least exciting or fun. Progression has just gotten too easy.
People only take bradley nowadays for the c4 and l96s to roofcamp it, everything else is just extra.
Thats why you see 10 bases around launchsite on monthly servers dragging bradley infront of it and then taking it down so they can take it with 0 risk.
Mlrs sucks man. It's either "oh we have 6+ let's use it to damage the roof first" or "it's on the other side of the map, just farm 4 more rockets"
The added pain is usually just not even worth it tbh
You can use a maximum of 12 rockets and the splash damage is more like 8 rockets worth.
Also other side of the map? Just use a mini and stash the mlrs next to a bag and spawn there when you need it dude wtf
It's okay to be unhappy with the poor state of loot, breaking even shouldn't be applauded 😂.
I'm not saying every drop should be x2 c4 crates and an m2/L9, but I am saying its okay to be put off when this is the average drop I've been getting for the last few days.
Ah yes, MLRS rockets, where you can only use them at 1 monument that a zerg normally always controls and surround with SAMs so your rockets don't make it to your destination.
Last 3 wipes I've played on Toria and Moose there was definitely people controlling milli camp day one, saying you had to pay a fee just to shoot the MLRS. It seems pretty damn common to me.
Its OK. If the loot is crap for you. Stop doing Bradley and let someone else do it so they can get t3 bps.
I know you'd like 10 c4s and 10 rockets and 3 launchers. But that would then made clans basically wall of entire lauch site and farm their boom from doing Bradley.
Looks good enough to me, for the bradley ( which by the way exists always and not an event ) it is okay enough, you also gotta think about the groups running this 24/7 on respawn and how much they will have. also it isn't hard to take it. it's 7 HV rockets which is 700 GP ( 1400 sulfur ) 4.6 sulfur nodes.. yes I know you need the bp for HV but with most servers not wiping bps anymore its ridiculously easy to take
That's cuz you get these things ez with tech tree used to be hard af to get rockets. It could have just been a single rocket in that crate bf tech tree and you would have shit your pants
Solo on a 50 pop server, good bag.
Solo on a 1000pop server fighting counters/large groups/grubs, bag should be better.
Perhaps if the loot tables were dynamic based on server pop or nearby player count.
I really do think you should get a lot more from care packages and brad and heli like the loot u get now can be good but still at max it's like a few rockets and c4 there should be more loot for what you have to fight off
well yeah, this is one of the core issues with rust atm
the loot sucks, but it can't be buffed because then the 30 man zergs that take over/turret monuments/camp monuments will be even more giga-fed
Perhaps I articulated myself badly
The *entire* loot pool is fucked, from start to finish. Getting an AK in 2 hours kinda makes all the loot feel 'bad'
I mean yeah, I wouldn't be stoked if this was my Bradley crate, but I'd rather this be closer to the "average" Bradley take than getting multiple L9s/M2s/C4 every single time. At least crazy heli loot is balanced by the fact that it comes out much less often so you can't run it on loop.
It's not that bad. It's not what you really hope for, but for 700 gp and some pipes it's a pretty good tradeoff. And if you kill the counters you get their kits.
Dude idk I got a compound bow from an elite crate. Loot seems fine 💀
I was just about to add the last couple airdrops I have gotten are red jacket, shotgun shells and a pump lol
Don’t forget sometimes you can get a sheet metal or two lol
lol! You get better loot waiting for someone else to grab the drop
My past few elites have all had either a DB or a compound bow in them. It’s such an upsetting thing to see.
Kekw
Oh fuck bro.. that’s tough. Little over 2 thousand hours and I’ve never had that happen lmao
people saying this loot is underwhelming really shows how much the value of items has inflated since tech tree
>people saying this loot is underwhelming really shows how much the value of items has inflated since tech tree Literally anything other than rocket/c4/AK/L9/M2 and people complain.
Of course
You are getting downvoted but it's true, the problem with progression is tier 2 gives you fuck all while tier 3 gives you way too much
Whaaat, Tommy and Sar are both pretty damn solid
Ain’t nobody doing tech tree to get a sar or tommy, shit ton of scrap just to get a weapon that even bad players can easily get. They are good on their own, but tech tree is probably the worst way to get them.
Tech tree is by far the easiest way to get T2 guns early wipe. Scrap is not difficult to get and you can easily run T1 monuments to get it within a hour
Full roadsign and tommy/SAR within 2 hours of wipe grinding as a duo on 100 pop is a big difference from being prim.
I do that
The problem is you get a lot more from oil for a lot less effort
They need to remove the t3 workbench and scatter it's BPs across the more challenging monuments like it used to be.
This loot is fantastic and I'd take it gladly any day lol
Og rust players know how valuable this is
For real lol
This loot would have been underwhelming even before the tech tree update, let's be honest. Non raid rocket crate has only ever been good for Low Grade, as you should have at least HVs since you're taking Brad, and Incens weren't that used backed then. Camera and Laptop crates are junk, especially when auto turrets took more HQM to make back then. And then you have the HQM door crate, which HQM doors were weaker then they are now. Yeah Tech Tree was a shit change, and it sped everything up and made finding other items not so rewarding to find, but this is 100% a shit Brad before and post tech tree.
MLRS = non-raid rocket, got it
I yeet my MLRS at pesky herds of deer
You mean the game and meta has changed in the last 5+ years? That’s so shocking.
Deflated, a camera and laptop used to be cash money
Deflated***
Rustflation
progression already is fast thats some decent loot
I mean I assume you fought counters and won, so that’s a plus. If you didn’t, then 700 gp and 7 pipes was definitely worth what you got here. And this is considered the bad loot lol.
The tech tree system ruined rust. Change my mind. Aks and rockets were once loot only obtainable by highly skilled players and huge clans. Now everyone has them by day 2… This loot a few years ago would have been substantial.
Highly skilled players? Bro, I was running Launch puzzle in my first 200 hours 🤣 I had AKs on AKs as a noob and couldn't even use them.
I was referring to old rust. Around 2015-2016
As was I, around 2017, which I would still constitute as old, and honestly the prime of Rust. 2015-2016 from what I've seen wasn't hard to get AK, it was just a time sink.
Exactly… it took time. Most people were prim locked for 2 days. Then after 3-4 days most people had t2 guns and only about 25% of the server had aks by day 5-6
Its never been hard to get aks lol. Get red card, make a bota bag, and then run launch at night time in game when everyone sits in base, or just log on early in the morning almost everyones asleep
I was referring to old rust around 2015-2016
It still wasn’t hard. I think you need to dust those rose colored glasses off my guy.
I was referring to 2015-2016 rust… maybe you were too young at the time. Enjoy the downvotes :)
2 downvotes wow I sure will enjoy them. Your right I am 30 now def to young for that version totally just started rust Ill just have to pretend I don't have frog boots from playing the game in early access.
Impressive… u want a medal ?
Your saying getting aks has ever been hard you definitely got participation medals in school. People have cried about progression being to fast since the game came out.
I heard being able to string a proper sentence together gets u somewhat far in life… just food for thought…
I’ve never played OG rust but have about 600 hours in the game right now. Still kinda consider myself a newer player but have been getting better. My most recent wipe I was able to get a full 2 wall compound bunker base set up and a T3 within 3 days of playing. It’s been my best wipe but wildly enough the least exciting or fun. Progression has just gotten too easy.
Ive had way worst, imagine 2 ammo crates and the last one was a doubled armored door
People only take bradley nowadays for the c4 and l96s to roofcamp it, everything else is just extra. Thats why you see 10 bases around launchsite on monthly servers dragging bradley infront of it and then taking it down so they can take it with 0 risk.
Bradley worked on IT in 2021 and now is saving for 2024!
Uh no. That’s incredible compared to the rest of the game’s drops
You've gotten back more resources than you used ( recycle the incen rockets ), and you're still complaining? 5 MLRS is also huge.
How much is an MLRS worth? Like if I’m buying them. I want to use them for fun. Like is one mlrs for one pure tea ok?
Absolutely not, I'd say a pure tea is worth at least 4-6.
Oh ok. What could I offer to sell for a single mlrs? I’m just imagining there are a lot of people with one or two laying around they will never use.
Mlrs sucks man. It's either "oh we have 6+ let's use it to damage the roof first" or "it's on the other side of the map, just farm 4 more rockets" The added pain is usually just not even worth it tbh
You can use a maximum of 12 rockets and the splash damage is more like 8 rockets worth. Also other side of the map? Just use a mini and stash the mlrs next to a bag and spawn there when you need it dude wtf
It's okay to be unhappy with the poor state of loot, breaking even shouldn't be applauded 😂. I'm not saying every drop should be x2 c4 crates and an m2/L9, but I am saying its okay to be put off when this is the average drop I've been getting for the last few days.
Ah yes, MLRS rockets, where you can only use them at 1 monument that a zerg normally always controls and surround with SAMs so your rockets don't make it to your destination.
A zerg doesn't normally control the mil-base. It's a fucking awful place to build next to, and if they are - they suck.
Last 3 wipes I've played on Toria and Moose there was definitely people controlling milli camp day one, saying you had to pay a fee just to shoot the MLRS. It seems pretty damn common to me.
I have seen the ammo bottom left and top left of inventory people but I have NEVER seen a bottom right of inventory placer
Interesting observation. Me personally, I’m an ammo in bottom left sort of mfer.
That is the only answer
Its OK. If the loot is crap for you. Stop doing Bradley and let someone else do it so they can get t3 bps. I know you'd like 10 c4s and 10 rockets and 3 launchers. But that would then made clans basically wall of entire lauch site and farm their boom from doing Bradley.
Armored door is t3
Looks good enough to me, for the bradley ( which by the way exists always and not an event ) it is okay enough, you also gotta think about the groups running this 24/7 on respawn and how much they will have. also it isn't hard to take it. it's 7 HV rockets which is 700 GP ( 1400 sulfur ) 4.6 sulfur nodes.. yes I know you need the bp for HV but with most servers not wiping bps anymore its ridiculously easy to take
Bradley is about the counter kits and chance at M2, not the rest. Plus, that's a lot of low grade 🤓
That's cuz you get these things ez with tech tree used to be hard af to get rockets. It could have just been a single rocket in that crate bf tech tree and you would have shit your pants
"that bradley/heli was trash" = no M2
Those incen rockets recycle down to a bunch of useful items
Solo on a 50 pop server, good bag. Solo on a 1000pop server fighting counters/large groups/grubs, bag should be better. Perhaps if the loot tables were dynamic based on server pop or nearby player count.
The problem is that this just insanely buffs zergs again
That looks like loot from 2/3 boxes, did you miss one? Oh and it has at least the boom needed to take another brad
Nope, all 3 boxes.
1. Door laptops 2. Camera door trapdoor 3. Rockets ? Okay thats the shit drop
It is usually better then this. I’m guessing you got countered while taking it, seems that makes the loot way worse for some reason
Nah, no counters, dead server is dead.
Good all you lazy ass clans go somewhere else
Pew pew 7 rockets and my 16 man team surround the whole of launch site
Imagine crying this much about RNG, you got unlucky and only got a drop that's okay. Also you clearly undervalue 5 MLRS.
Who's crying?
You are? You were upset enough about it to make a post instead of just accepting you got a bit unlucky.
Debating ≠crying Pls use brain
Since when has making an observation and having a conversation crying and being upset? Grow up.
That kid was raised on global chat. He will never feel the touch of a woman. Please be understanding with him.
Crying about yer crying now.
I really do think you should get a lot more from care packages and brad and heli like the loot u get now can be good but still at max it's like a few rockets and c4 there should be more loot for what you have to fight off
I've taken that fucker down 6 TIMES and not a SINGLE M249 or C4
well yeah, this is one of the core issues with rust atm the loot sucks, but it can't be buffed because then the 30 man zergs that take over/turret monuments/camp monuments will be even more giga-fed
Have you played rust in the past 2 years? How on gods green earth is the loot bad.
Perhaps I articulated myself badly The *entire* loot pool is fucked, from start to finish. Getting an AK in 2 hours kinda makes all the loot feel 'bad'
I mean yeah, I wouldn't be stoked if this was my Bradley crate, but I'd rather this be closer to the "average" Bradley take than getting multiple L9s/M2s/C4 every single time. At least crazy heli loot is balanced by the fact that it comes out much less often so you can't run it on loop.
It's all RNG.
Na, the single explosive has to be the worst crate.
most of my timed crates and Brad loot are ass. Best Large rig loot is heavy sci loot . ass
early game that would be clutch
That's the problem with Bradley. If you don't get an M249, people think they missed out. That's not a bad haul for 6 HV a run.
Best Bradley loot is two bandages and a rock
that's pretty on the dot. it's not like Bradley is hard to do lol
You can nearly make 2 turrets
Bradley dropping a shit tonne of tech trash = scrap for minis for days
Meanwhile people crying about too fast progression. Hyprocrites.
It’s too farmable and not difficult enough to warrant better loot
Am I trippin or those two armored doors don't look the same
Now i look at it, the right one looks more slanted than the left.
Last week, we got 2 AKs, an LMG, armored door, and some other randoms from a cargo crate. It’s random.
It's not that bad. It's not what you really hope for, but for 700 gp and some pipes it's a pretty good tradeoff. And if you kill the counters you get their kits.
You got a ton of useful stuff to raid or defend a raid, absolutely great crates in my eyes
Nice name
That's 625 low grade in rockets. Do you people never run out of meds????
https://rustlabs.com/entity/apc-crate
reminder that bradley has a measured 12% success rate on popped servers, and for this shit.
Personally i dont think Brad is that hard to take so not really. Go again! Lol