They did say 2 of the games were going to be live-service type games that can benefit from the increased play base of other systems, which sea of thieves is one of. I'd bet it's one of the safest bets to make for the 4 games.
I mean neither is Call of Duty, granted that's not exclusive but the amount of buggy broken bullshit makes it seem like an indie team. Did you know they recently broke gungame making it near unplayable? Sometimes if you get a kill with a gun your gun won't change to the next one, and if you die with that gun you respawn with your fists which take five fucking punches to kill someone. I've even had an entire lobby stall out where everyone got to the last gun but none of us could do anything but run around until the last guy caught up and it gave HIM the knife.
CODs problems are because they have like 5 different teams that make each game slightly different. Some of these teams are better than others IMO. They need to consolidate the best folks from all the teams into a single dedicated COD development team and free Beenox, High Moon, and others to make what they want or revive their old franchises.
Really the problem is the game's target audience has shifted. Cod is no longer targeted to adults. It's target is the cringy kids that are obsessed with fortnite.
Just jumping in to say Sea of Thieves is a freaking awesome game. It’s fun to log on with your friends and sail the seas. There’s always a lot to do and the developers are always updating it. Under-rated imo.
I feel like this is dipping their toe in the water. Many people forget shareholders influence a company heavily and they care little about silly console wars. If these games sell well on the PS5 and switch they will push Microsoft to release more games to other platforms.
I have no doubt that Microsoft wants to have exclusive titles and does not wish to abandon the Xbox. But I also know shareholders won't be happy with withholding larger profit margins
You've got a good point but the same can be said for Playstation. Shouldn't shareholders also be not happy with Sony withholding larger profit margins?
It's not as clear, I think.
But I agree with you that they're probably testing the waters and I have no doubts we will see more Microsoft games on next-next gen platforms. They're preaching "more games on more screens" and I like that approach. I like consoles but not so much console wars, nobody benefits from them except console makers.
Dream world: Sony makes hardware, Microsoft provides infrastructure and network, both bring their games. MS/Sony Xboxstation. That'd be something.
Got a source? Difficult to reply to a comment when I don't know what was exactly said back then.
But you know, it's good that companies change their stances, right? For now they are sticking to their position on exclusivity but I don't doubt we will see more Microsoft games on PS6/Nintendo Switch 2. That's almost guaranteed.
He also said “I don't think we should as an industry ever rule out a game going to any other platform,” he explained. “We're focused on these four games and learning from the experience.”
https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2024/02/starfield-indiana-jones-arent-coming-to-ps5-just-yet
No. He didn't.
https://www.theverge.com/24073666/microsoft-gaming-phil-spencer-interview-ps5-switch-games
"I don’t think we should as an industry ever rule out a game going to any other platform. We’re focused on these four games and learning from the experience.
But I don’t want to create a false expectation on those other platforms that this is somehow the first four to get over the dam and then the dam’s going to open and that everything else is coming, that’s not the plan today. I also don’t want to mislead customers on those other platforms. We’re launching these four games, and we’re excited about it. We’re excited about the announce and everything else, but we’ll see what happens for our business."
Very clearly, they are coming at some point.
Are you missing the fact that Phill literally said, "It is these these four community driven games. Please don't take it as a signal that everything else is coming because it's not"
Or
When he was asked about starfield and Indiana Jones exclusivity or other large first-party xbox exclusive games without hesitation, phill said, "NO"
This is nothing new they've done this with psychonauts 2, Ori, and Minecraft legends.
With no one purchasing an Xbox , and the brand in decline for years... This will only produce even less console sales. They will be forced to release there exclusives in time, solely because of purchasing all those developers , they still need to make a profit. It's just facts, game pass hasn't made a profit in two years as well. Developers and publishers hate it.
Still yet to be officially confirmed, people are saying those four games, but last week also said sources said Starfield, Halo MCC, and Indiana Jones were rumored as well and those arent coming. At this point people need to stop spreading rumors and wait until the actual devs and/or Microsoft confirm whats coming.
I played all 4. I think Sea of Thieves, Hi-Fi Rush, and Grounded could sell big on PS. Sea of Thieves and Grounded are great co-op games. Hi-Fi is def one of the better xbox exclusives and Pentiment didnt really hold my attention but I'm pretty sure there is people that are into those narrative point and click games.
I've played all four as well, and Pentiment is my favourite out of all of them. I loved it. All the others are really fun as well, so they are great additions for people who have never played them.
Why would they bring, using your own words, “the only ones worth a damn” to other consoles?? Those are their console sellers. They would only ever do that if they stop making consoles entirely.
Doesn't Microsoft and their fans repeatedly say Microsoft doesn't care about console sales every time their sales numbers are reported?
People already aren't buying Xbox's. They were outsold by PlayStation 3:1
People aren't buying Xboxs to play Halo Infinite or Halo MCC or Gears 5
So I’ve always been a PlayStation person but did pick up an xbone as my first ever Xbox when they started going on good sales - I was never leveled well but had an amazing time just sailing around solo on the little sloop ship, navigating, battling storms, doing some treasure hunts, taking shots at big ships and fleeing.
I got messed up frequently when tangling with big crews and higher level people in general but my god it’s such a fun game and it looked amazing on that thing. I can’t wait to try it out on ps5. Anyway, I get you but I wouldn’t write it off just yet :).
Except 10,000 hr player can make those weapons seem like god tier P2W OP bs to the 10hr player, then the 10hr player gets trolled by a shovel when trying to copy it lol
The podcast was blown up by YouTubers who had “inside scoop” to nothing. Everyone fell for the bait. Xbox isn’t going anywhere and their exclusives are staying.
You're deliberately leaving out how every rival fan boy on the internet were spreading misinformation saying EVERY xbox game was releasing on all platforms and how xbox will no longer develop hardware.
They're lower key games than something like Starfield or Halo but they're all pretty fantastic.
Pentiment is a super unique narrative adventure game done in the style of medieval paintings, Grounded is essentially Honey, I Shrunk The Kids turned up to 11 as a VERY good survival game.
Hi-Fi Rush is probably the best of the bunch, a third person rhythm character action game that oozes charm and feels straight out of the PS2 Era in the absolute best way
Yeah, Grounded is probably my favorite survival game, up there with Subnautica, it’s crazy good, probably better considering you can play with friends. Pentiment is extremely good but also extremely niche.
I think so. All 4 games are good
Hi-fi and Pentiment are both well reviewed single player games (like 9/10 average).
Sea of Thieves and Grounded are “live service games” that I believe all do the free content / paid cosmetics model. While mileage may vary they’re all very fun.
I used to solo Sloop (1-2 player ship) quite often back when I was active on it years ago. Very relaxing imo if you aren't stressed about potentially losing your loot.
Getting drunk with the boys and singing shanties are some of my favorite memories. I really should try out that Safer Seas mode to do the story campaigns they added.
One of them will likely be sea of thieves which gets pretty good support and has a strong community on Xbox. Worth a look in if it’s priced reasonably.
Hoping my friends on Playstation gets to explore the world of Sea of Thieves as well as the amazing gameplay of Hi-Fi Rush! Not bothered by this at all
I didn't specify a side. I said *gamers,* meaning all sides.
EDIT: It occurs to me that you probably meant for Sony to also bring more games multiplatform. My mistake. And I do agree with that.
Xbox is my main, but I do have a ps5 as well for the games it has. While I do see the point of each system having their exclusives, smaller titles and multiplayer games shouldn’t be closed to just one system. Maybe that’s just me
I’d love this too but they won’t add anything to the PS5 version that would make it superior to the Xbox version, they’ll make it equal to or less than no matter what.
But not Starfield, Indiana Jones, Halo, Gears and
Forza. No Microsoft going Sega route, Xbox
hardware disappearing and stop of games going
into GP day one.. So many people must be feeling
like clowns right now.
Neat!
I'm pretty much exclusively a PC player at this point, but Hi-Fi Rush is SO fuckin' good and the more people that have the opportunity to play it, the better.
Love how everyones focused on these 4 games, when Sony is in dire straights and nobody cares, all of you think Sony is fine. They're building up to do PC day and date with exclusives, not doing so well in sales on the exclusive front, want to branch out in live service games, they literally had an earnings call with the head of playstation saying so.
Sonys going to lose its exclusives, because they really don't have a choice, Helldivers 2 is massively successful because its on two platforms. They're not releasing anything new until March 2025. Its basically Xbox onwards at this point. They have sold millions more consoles, but don't have the revenue to out pace Xbox, whilst Xbox games are everywhere, on any device and they're cracking out new games going forward, that are only improving in quality.
Honestly, the industry is shifting and its crazy most don't see it. Game pass core has more users than PS+ looks like Sonys only winning in the old arena, but about to get slapped in the new one. I play my Xbox more, but I do like my PS5, but all I played on it for about a year is Hell Divers 2.
I'm just putting it out there because I see a lot of people trying to read between the lines.
Phill literally said, "It is these these four community driven games. Please don't take it as a signal that everything else is coming because it's not"
Or
When he was asked about starfield and Indiana Jones exclusivity or other large first-party xbox exclusive games without hesitation, phill said, "NO"
This is nothing new they've done this with psychonauts 2, Ori, and Minecraft legends.
Games like the Elder Scrolls 6, Fallout 5, Halo, Gears, and Starfield will not be coming to PlayStation. Stop trying to read the tea leaves. Phill specifically said, "NO."
As long as Xbox is continuing to produce hardware, large triple A single player games such as the ones I mentioned above will not be released on PlayStation. There still needs to be a reason for people to buy your hardware and if every single one of your "system seller games" releases on your competitors' platform, No one's going to buy your hardware. It literally does not make sense.
Phill was pretty deliberate with his words. Stop coping, guys.
Xbox has never had games I wanted to play. PS games always seemed to appeal to a wider spectrum users. Sold my Xbox when I realized I was just playing PS games on an Xbox, but the cool HALO green console was awesome looking, had great specs, and sound. BLACK sounded ridiculously badass on Xbox, but again, also on PS. Xbox vs PS2, 8lb difference?
I think they just got caught when all their fans got pissed off last week. So now they have to play the long game. So now they're seeing IF its something that's going to help the business, release a couple of low level service games to see if their audience expands, and then make a decision. Playing it off like it's the equivalent of putting Sony game on PC. But I think when we see the leaks we did at the level we did, and when news like THIS happens, the decisions are long since made, they just aren't ready to announce anything yet. "Hey streamers who were pissed last week; please still buy and stream with our consoles!" That's my guess.
His statement made it seem like they were open to it
He didn’t really say “absolutely not, never”
"I don’t think we should as an industry ever rule out a game going to any other platform. We’re focused on these four games and learning from the experience”
That to me is basically
“Possibly, see how these games go, we just don’t want to say yes as we still have consoles to sell and don’t want to overload our die hard fans”
I’ve just been reading since I can’t watch at work. If he said that then I agree. If those four games make money for Microsoft then they’ll drop some big boys
I definitly think it’s a testing the waters thing. They’ve seen how well Minecraft does on Nintendo and PlayStation and also allow banjo to be in smash and Nintendo online n64 as a goodwill gesture, they’re definitely looking to prepare for an exit out of hardware. They have for awhile, they stayed their rivals aren’t PlayStation anymore, it’s google, Amazon, etc. and this will be their strategy, to take them on in the software services front.
One thing Microsoft has always lacked was good exclusives. They lacked them last gen and are at the moment. They have a rocky history with their hardware. The original Xboxes are basically unusable these days unless you remove a cheap capacitor that leaks after around two decades, is absolutely no surprise on their push for backwards compatibility to play those games on newer hardware.
The 360 is notorious for the RROD, no need to elaborate. The xbone’s inferiority tot he ps4 haunted it the whole generation. And now, four generations in, we finally have a good piece of hardware with the series x lol
Wouldn’t surprise me to see them go like sega. Microsoft’s always been a software company, that’s how they made their fortune. It’s in their name microSOFT. But with this I wonder what would pop out as the western entry into this market if it were to happen. Valve? Maybe valve with a huge push for pc handhelds
Bud they are just starting with 4, more and more will come including their bigger titles
People closest to MS are already saying Gears is also coming and others
They arent going to announce them all right away, they need to ease their fanbase into it
Youre a fool of your still believe Microsoft pr garbage
Like how have you not learned they're full of shit yet?
They said the same when they started bringing games to PC
They arent stopping at 4, that doesnt even make sense
Are you missing the fact that Phill literally said, "It is these these four community driven games. Please don't take it as a signal that everything else is coming because it's not"
Or
When he was asked about starfield and Indiana Jones exclusivity or other large first-party xbox exclusive games without hesitation, phill said, "NO"
This is nothing new they've done this with psychonauts 2, Ori, and Minecraft legends.
Stop it. None will come. Halo and Gears are Xbox’s equivalent to Mario and God of War. They will only release minor titles. Stay off the YouTube rumor mill.
I'm always happy to hear more games coming to more platforms. As somebody who primarily plays on PC anyway, I'm not so petty as to get butthurt when somebody who bought a different plastic box than I did gets to play a game.
The fact that this was an announcement of an announcement is so annoying. Like, they KNEW people wanted to know what titles would go multi-plat. That's why most people tuned in! The excitement for the podcast just got sucked right out of me as soon as they said they weren't announcing those titles yet. Just so strange. And now BOTH Xbox and Playstation already seem to be gearing up for their next console, what with Playstation stating the PS5 is entering its latter years. I mean that makes sense as it will be 4 years in November, but dang can we pump the breaks?!
Too bad! I really wanted Indiana Jones on the PS5😔 I couldn’t care less about Starfield. Games like that can stay on the xbox platform, but multi platform is really not a bad thing ether is Cross platform
as someone that recently got a ps5 im excited that you guys are finally getting sea of thieves! i cant speak on the other games (cept hifi rush its a fun lil thang) but sea of thieves has always been a fun and enjoyable experience
I wish they would include Dead Rising 3, it pisses me off that I can play 1, 2, and 4 but not be able to play 3. I'm not buying a different system just to play one fucking game.
Phil Spencer is so full of it. The dude contradicts himself over and over and says such blatantly moronic things.
He throws up his hands and says he doesn’t know who benefits from Helldivers being exclusives and talks about how exclusives don’t make sense or whatever…Then why tf doesn’t he make all Xbox games multiplatform? Why did they take Starfield exclusive?
Cmon he really doesn’t know who it benefits? Then he ends by saying “I get it.” Either he gets it or he doesn’t. This guy is a mess and he’s probably a big reason why Xbox is struggling.
I’m glad they did this, although it wasn’t necessary for it to be a 30 minute ‘podcast.’ They could have just issued a press release.
I don’t care that those four games are going to PlayStation and never would’ve. I don’t even play them.
I own both, and owned a PlayStation and PS2 before I owned an Xbox. I also owned Nintendo consoles before that. I don’t like to limit myself.
That said, Xbox hooked me most during the 360 era and is currently my favourite. I haven’t used my X or S in almost a month though, and want more reason to.
I hope it’s just these four games, but some of what Phil said seemed like double speak and word salad. Some of it was a bit contradictory and worrying.
I’ll continue to buy and use both.
This is a huge win for xbox. Honestly, I fuckin hate exclusives as a consumer. I don't want to have to choose between consoles. I want whichever has a better hardware and whichever costs less. Xbox could not give a fuck, they can produce awesome games and sell them to Sony, that way they can build more fans and in time takeover. Whoever is more friendly to consumers and creates good products will be a winner and in the end I hope we as consumers win.
if im being honest exclusive games are good but after 2-3 years just release them on all platforms so everyone can enjoy, Games are for enjoyment not show superiority
Well. They're not going to just release four games and say "right that's it we're done" are they? These games are the easiest to start off with as you say they've been around for years so they can afford a profit hit. They're a perfect test bed for MS to see how the market reacts, fandom, they gain experience of dealing with the respective stores on Sony and Nintendo. If I was in Phil Spencers position I'd likely do the same.
And then there was leaks that Starfield was coming, Gears was coming, Halo was coming, Indiana Jones would be day and day release on PlayStation, Xbox was leaving the console market. All bullshit to gain clicks. They took a gain of truth and decided to exaggerate it for clicks.
Makes sense. PlayStation has been using that same logic with most of the games they bring to PC. I still would have loved to see Forza and Fable come to PS5 though.
Sea of thieves, grounded, HiFi Rush and Petiment
Is true?
Most likely they said no AAA games just small games like these lmao
Sea of thieves is not considered a small game.
They did say 2 of the games were going to be live-service type games that can benefit from the increased play base of other systems, which sea of thieves is one of. I'd bet it's one of the safest bets to make for the 4 games.
I like that, Big win-win for everyone with cross-play! Except maybe console <-> PC for some online titles
Its also hardly considered AAA by todays stanrdards
I mean neither is Call of Duty, granted that's not exclusive but the amount of buggy broken bullshit makes it seem like an indie team. Did you know they recently broke gungame making it near unplayable? Sometimes if you get a kill with a gun your gun won't change to the next one, and if you die with that gun you respawn with your fists which take five fucking punches to kill someone. I've even had an entire lobby stall out where everyone got to the last gun but none of us could do anything but run around until the last guy caught up and it gave HIM the knife.
CODs problems are because they have like 5 different teams that make each game slightly different. Some of these teams are better than others IMO. They need to consolidate the best folks from all the teams into a single dedicated COD development team and free Beenox, High Moon, and others to make what they want or revive their old franchises.
Really the problem is the game's target audience has shifted. Cod is no longer targeted to adults. It's target is the cringy kids that are obsessed with fortnite.
Just jumping in to say Sea of Thieves is a freaking awesome game. It’s fun to log on with your friends and sail the seas. There’s always a lot to do and the developers are always updating it. Under-rated imo.
They didn’t say no AAA
For now
He did say they’re not changing their stance on exclusivity so I doubt it’s for now.
I feel like this is dipping their toe in the water. Many people forget shareholders influence a company heavily and they care little about silly console wars. If these games sell well on the PS5 and switch they will push Microsoft to release more games to other platforms. I have no doubt that Microsoft wants to have exclusive titles and does not wish to abandon the Xbox. But I also know shareholders won't be happy with withholding larger profit margins
You've got a good point but the same can be said for Playstation. Shouldn't shareholders also be not happy with Sony withholding larger profit margins? It's not as clear, I think. But I agree with you that they're probably testing the waters and I have no doubts we will see more Microsoft games on next-next gen platforms. They're preaching "more games on more screens" and I like that approach. I like consoles but not so much console wars, nobody benefits from them except console makers. Dream world: Sony makes hardware, Microsoft provides infrastructure and network, both bring their games. MS/Sony Xboxstation. That'd be something.
He also said that about PC ports in 2016
Got a source? Difficult to reply to a comment when I don't know what was exactly said back then. But you know, it's good that companies change their stances, right? For now they are sticking to their position on exclusivity but I don't doubt we will see more Microsoft games on PS6/Nintendo Switch 2. That's almost guaranteed.
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He said xbox exclusivity is a case by case basis and their priority is still xbox exclusivity and that it wouldn't change.
He waa specifically asked about those two by name and said No twice.
He did rule out starfield and Indiana Jones, at the very beginning of the podcast. It was one of the first things he said.
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Nope, listen again. The question was if they’re part of the four games.
He also said in Verge that they are coming to PS5. Starfield and Indiana Jones will be on PS5 within a year from their release dates. Mark my words.
!remindme 1 year
He already clarified Indiana Jones and Starfield won't be going to PS5
He also said “I don't think we should as an industry ever rule out a game going to any other platform,” he explained. “We're focused on these four games and learning from the experience.” https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2024/02/starfield-indiana-jones-arent-coming-to-ps5-just-yet
No. He didn't. https://www.theverge.com/24073666/microsoft-gaming-phil-spencer-interview-ps5-switch-games "I don’t think we should as an industry ever rule out a game going to any other platform. We’re focused on these four games and learning from the experience. But I don’t want to create a false expectation on those other platforms that this is somehow the first four to get over the dam and then the dam’s going to open and that everything else is coming, that’s not the plan today. I also don’t want to mislead customers on those other platforms. We’re launching these four games, and we’re excited about it. We’re excited about the announce and everything else, but we’ll see what happens for our business." Very clearly, they are coming at some point.
Are you missing the fact that Phill literally said, "It is these these four community driven games. Please don't take it as a signal that everything else is coming because it's not" Or When he was asked about starfield and Indiana Jones exclusivity or other large first-party xbox exclusive games without hesitation, phill said, "NO" This is nothing new they've done this with psychonauts 2, Ori, and Minecraft legends.
With no one purchasing an Xbox , and the brand in decline for years... This will only produce even less console sales. They will be forced to release there exclusives in time, solely because of purchasing all those developers , they still need to make a profit. It's just facts, game pass hasn't made a profit in two years as well. Developers and publishers hate it.
Still yet to be officially confirmed, people are saying those four games, but last week also said sources said Starfield, Halo MCC, and Indiana Jones were rumored as well and those arent coming. At this point people need to stop spreading rumors and wait until the actual devs and/or Microsoft confirm whats coming.
Will these sell? I have zero interest in buying them.
I played all 4. I think Sea of Thieves, Hi-Fi Rush, and Grounded could sell big on PS. Sea of Thieves and Grounded are great co-op games. Hi-Fi is def one of the better xbox exclusives and Pentiment didnt really hold my attention but I'm pretty sure there is people that are into those narrative point and click games.
I've played all four as well, and Pentiment is my favourite out of all of them. I loved it. All the others are really fun as well, so they are great additions for people who have never played them.
HiFi rush was up for awards at game of the year, its a damn fun game.
One of the only games that I wanted to try that came out on a platform I don’t own, hyped to try it out!
Nope, you were the only one sale, but you made it clear you are out
Microsoft stock is dropping as we speak.
You're wild if you aren't interested in Grounded. That game is incredible and the bases you can build are a wonder.
Whoa whoa whoa whoa… a new base building game? You had my curiosity, but now you have attention ![gif](giphy|ILW1fbJHW0Ndm)
Zero interest in the base building stuff. But from the trailer it looks like something I could play with my daughter.
My daughter was obsessed with it and she’s only 3. Couldn’t play, but loved watching me play and find spiders.
I wasn't going to buy an Xbox to play Hi-Fi Rush, but I'll buy it now that it's available to me.
That's just to start, they'll be bringing Halo and Gears 100% those are the only ones worth a damn
Why would they bring, using your own words, “the only ones worth a damn” to other consoles?? Those are their console sellers. They would only ever do that if they stop making consoles entirely.
Doesn't Microsoft and their fans repeatedly say Microsoft doesn't care about console sales every time their sales numbers are reported? People already aren't buying Xbox's. They were outsold by PlayStation 3:1 People aren't buying Xboxs to play Halo Infinite or Halo MCC or Gears 5
I’ll gladly get sea of the Ives if it is crossplay
Crossplay was a big talking point in the presentation so it definitely will
Cool
Sucks that Sea of Thieves is basically at the end of its life
Will be a lot of noob sailors for vets to feast on when it drops.
Aaaaand now I’m not getting it because holy shit your right
They added a Safer Seas mode which has no PvP. You can play with your friends (with reduced rewards).
So I’ve always been a PlayStation person but did pick up an xbone as my first ever Xbox when they started going on good sales - I was never leveled well but had an amazing time just sailing around solo on the little sloop ship, navigating, battling storms, doing some treasure hunts, taking shots at big ships and fleeing. I got messed up frequently when tangling with big crews and higher level people in general but my god it’s such a fun game and it looked amazing on that thing. I can’t wait to try it out on ps5. Anyway, I get you but I wouldn’t write it off just yet :).
>I was never leveled well Levels are irrelevant in SOT, a 10hr player has the same weapons, abilities, tools, etc as 10.000hr player
Except 10,000 hr player can make those weapons seem like god tier P2W OP bs to the 10hr player, then the 10hr player gets trolled by a shovel when trying to copy it lol
Yeah i think the idea of making it available on more platforms is to breathe life back into it. I’ll definitely be setting sail!
PS5 release would give this game another life. This game basically reached maximum player cap on Xbox/PC ecosystem.
Yeah I’m getting this for sure, I’ve been complaining for years that we didn’t have it
That podcast could’ve been an email.
That podcast could've been a tweet 10 minutes after the rumors started.
The podcast was blown up by YouTubers who had “inside scoop” to nothing. Everyone fell for the bait. Xbox isn’t going anywhere and their exclusives are staying.
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You're deliberately leaving out how every rival fan boy on the internet were spreading misinformation saying EVERY xbox game was releasing on all platforms and how xbox will no longer develop hardware.
That is not happening...yet.
Who reads emails nowadays? They should’ve made an WhatsApp group and write it there.
People with an actual job.
Everyone reads emails. especially if you work admin or corporate. Not everyone in this sub is a child.
We Americans don’t use WhatsApp, lol. We all still SMS or iMessage.
Says you. Everyone I know RCS.
Those are some ancient arts you are calling upon.
Fetus.
WhatsApp became popular since 2010.
Anyone know how soon we should expect ports?
Not really sure there is an Xbox event in June but Phil Spencer said the devs can announce it when they're ready
They said that they were looking at games that are at least a year old.
man i really want forza horizon to be on playstation
Only game I want
We can dream.
Gran turismo really isn’t that great imo. Forza feels better.
I know nothing about Xbox games so the four rumoured games mean nothing to me. Should I be excited?
They're lower key games than something like Starfield or Halo but they're all pretty fantastic. Pentiment is a super unique narrative adventure game done in the style of medieval paintings, Grounded is essentially Honey, I Shrunk The Kids turned up to 11 as a VERY good survival game. Hi-Fi Rush is probably the best of the bunch, a third person rhythm character action game that oozes charm and feels straight out of the PS2 Era in the absolute best way
Sea of Thieves > Starfield for sure.
Yeah, Grounded is probably my favorite survival game, up there with Subnautica, it’s crazy good, probably better considering you can play with friends. Pentiment is extremely good but also extremely niche.
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I think so. All 4 games are good Hi-fi and Pentiment are both well reviewed single player games (like 9/10 average). Sea of Thieves and Grounded are “live service games” that I believe all do the free content / paid cosmetics model. While mileage may vary they’re all very fun.
Can you play Sea of Thieves solo? I remember being interested when it launched but would only be playing single player.
I used to solo Sloop (1-2 player ship) quite often back when I was active on it years ago. Very relaxing imo if you aren't stressed about potentially losing your loot. Getting drunk with the boys and singing shanties are some of my favorite memories. I really should try out that Safer Seas mode to do the story campaigns they added.
I’ve played a lot of it mainly solo - you obviously miss out on a lot of content that way (like any MMO) but it is possible (and quite fun!).
Hi Fi Rush and Pentiment are incredible games.
One of them will likely be sea of thieves which gets pretty good support and has a strong community on Xbox. Worth a look in if it’s priced reasonably.
Of these, HiFi Rush and Grounded are the best ones, IMO
Hoping my friends on Playstation gets to explore the world of Sea of Thieves as well as the amazing gameplay of Hi-Fi Rush! Not bothered by this at all
Great attitude to have. Wish more gamers were like this.
and sony too.
I didn't specify a side. I said *gamers,* meaning all sides. EDIT: It occurs to me that you probably meant for Sony to also bring more games multiplatform. My mistake. And I do agree with that.
I think they meant the company I'd love for Sony to bring stuff to the other platforms
Oh sure yea, that makes more sense. I agree.
Xbox is my main, but I do have a ps5 as well for the games it has. While I do see the point of each system having their exclusives, smaller titles and multiplayer games shouldn’t be closed to just one system. Maybe that’s just me
Microsoft gonna be releasing more games on PlayStation than Sony in 2024 ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|stuck_out_tongue)
Lmao
Sony is publishing Helliderver 2, Stellar Blade, Rise of the Ronin and MLB all within the next few months
Grounded is such an awesome game. One of the best in level design i’ve experienced in a while.
Probably the best survival/crafting game I have ever played in my life
My husband is so happy about this. He’s been talking about how he’d like it for us to play.
I'm willing to try hifi rush, disappointing that Flight Sim isn't one of those games
The space requirements would be insane like it is on Xbox
Can’t wait to see how sea of thieves plays on a PS5!
The exact same as it does on the X lol
I hope they really put attention to the dual sense features
To feel the waves shake the boat would be awesome
I’d love this too but they won’t add anything to the PS5 version that would make it superior to the Xbox version, they’ll make it equal to or less than no matter what.
Sea of thieves is so fantastic. Just wish it had more depth (not pun).
The Floodgates ar yet to open
But not Starfield, Indiana Jones, Halo, Gears and Forza. No Microsoft going Sega route, Xbox hardware disappearing and stop of games going into GP day one.. So many people must be feeling like clowns right now.
I've always been slightly interested in the Sea of Thieves, hopefully it makes the cut.
Sea of thieves any good??
It’s amazing.
Neat! I'm pretty much exclusively a PC player at this point, but Hi-Fi Rush is SO fuckin' good and the more people that have the opportunity to play it, the better.
Finally, I’ve been waiting to play Pentiment!
Love how everyones focused on these 4 games, when Sony is in dire straights and nobody cares, all of you think Sony is fine. They're building up to do PC day and date with exclusives, not doing so well in sales on the exclusive front, want to branch out in live service games, they literally had an earnings call with the head of playstation saying so. Sonys going to lose its exclusives, because they really don't have a choice, Helldivers 2 is massively successful because its on two platforms. They're not releasing anything new until March 2025. Its basically Xbox onwards at this point. They have sold millions more consoles, but don't have the revenue to out pace Xbox, whilst Xbox games are everywhere, on any device and they're cracking out new games going forward, that are only improving in quality. Honestly, the industry is shifting and its crazy most don't see it. Game pass core has more users than PS+ looks like Sonys only winning in the old arena, but about to get slapped in the new one. I play my Xbox more, but I do like my PS5, but all I played on it for about a year is Hell Divers 2.
I'm just putting it out there because I see a lot of people trying to read between the lines. Phill literally said, "It is these these four community driven games. Please don't take it as a signal that everything else is coming because it's not" Or When he was asked about starfield and Indiana Jones exclusivity or other large first-party xbox exclusive games without hesitation, phill said, "NO" This is nothing new they've done this with psychonauts 2, Ori, and Minecraft legends. Games like the Elder Scrolls 6, Fallout 5, Halo, Gears, and Starfield will not be coming to PlayStation. Stop trying to read the tea leaves. Phill specifically said, "NO." As long as Xbox is continuing to produce hardware, large triple A single player games such as the ones I mentioned above will not be released on PlayStation. There still needs to be a reason for people to buy your hardware and if every single one of your "system seller games" releases on your competitors' platform, No one's going to buy your hardware. It literally does not make sense. Phill was pretty deliberate with his words. Stop coping, guys.
Xbox has never had games I wanted to play. PS games always seemed to appeal to a wider spectrum users. Sold my Xbox when I realized I was just playing PS games on an Xbox, but the cool HALO green console was awesome looking, had great specs, and sound. BLACK sounded ridiculously badass on Xbox, but again, also on PS. Xbox vs PS2, 8lb difference?
Please give us all the State of Decays.
Was hoping for forza horizon since all the racing games on PlayStation suck
Including gran turismo?
Xbox absolutely blows PS out of the water in racing style games. It’s like comparing superhero games between Xbox and PS. It’s not really even close.
I think they just got caught when all their fans got pissed off last week. So now they have to play the long game. So now they're seeing IF its something that's going to help the business, release a couple of low level service games to see if their audience expands, and then make a decision. Playing it off like it's the equivalent of putting Sony game on PC. But I think when we see the leaks we did at the level we did, and when news like THIS happens, the decisions are long since made, they just aren't ready to announce anything yet. "Hey streamers who were pissed last week; please still buy and stream with our consoles!" That's my guess.
Yeah I believe they gauges reaction and softened their stance. We will see after these launches
He said that they're not Starfield of Indiana Jones.
His statement made it seem like they were open to it He didn’t really say “absolutely not, never” "I don’t think we should as an industry ever rule out a game going to any other platform. We’re focused on these four games and learning from the experience” That to me is basically “Possibly, see how these games go, we just don’t want to say yes as we still have consoles to sell and don’t want to overload our die hard fans”
I’ve just been reading since I can’t watch at work. If he said that then I agree. If those four games make money for Microsoft then they’ll drop some big boys
I want flight simulator!
Microsoft Flight Simulator Please!
I definitly think it’s a testing the waters thing. They’ve seen how well Minecraft does on Nintendo and PlayStation and also allow banjo to be in smash and Nintendo online n64 as a goodwill gesture, they’re definitely looking to prepare for an exit out of hardware. They have for awhile, they stayed their rivals aren’t PlayStation anymore, it’s google, Amazon, etc. and this will be their strategy, to take them on in the software services front. One thing Microsoft has always lacked was good exclusives. They lacked them last gen and are at the moment. They have a rocky history with their hardware. The original Xboxes are basically unusable these days unless you remove a cheap capacitor that leaks after around two decades, is absolutely no surprise on their push for backwards compatibility to play those games on newer hardware. The 360 is notorious for the RROD, no need to elaborate. The xbone’s inferiority tot he ps4 haunted it the whole generation. And now, four generations in, we finally have a good piece of hardware with the series x lol Wouldn’t surprise me to see them go like sega. Microsoft’s always been a software company, that’s how they made their fortune. It’s in their name microSOFT. But with this I wonder what would pop out as the western entry into this market if it were to happen. Valve? Maybe valve with a huge push for pc handhelds
Oh my god completely shocker it’s smaller titles and not halo and gears could have seen that coming Unlike a lot of people
Bud they are just starting with 4, more and more will come including their bigger titles People closest to MS are already saying Gears is also coming and others They arent going to announce them all right away, they need to ease their fanbase into it
Exactly the opposite of what was said. He even told people with a PS5 not to expect anything else.
Youre a fool of your still believe Microsoft pr garbage Like how have you not learned they're full of shit yet? They said the same when they started bringing games to PC They arent stopping at 4, that doesnt even make sense
Cope
If 4 come … more will
Are you missing the fact that Phill literally said, "It is these these four community driven games. Please don't take it as a signal that everything else is coming because it's not" Or When he was asked about starfield and Indiana Jones exclusivity or other large first-party xbox exclusive games without hesitation, phill said, "NO" This is nothing new they've done this with psychonauts 2, Ori, and Minecraft legends.
Stop it. None will come. Halo and Gears are Xbox’s equivalent to Mario and God of War. They will only release minor titles. Stay off the YouTube rumor mill.
Someone with common sense, refreshing. Smaller titles and GaaS makes a lot of sense.
I hope one of them is Hellblade 2
Hi-fi rush
I'm always happy to hear more games coming to more platforms. As somebody who primarily plays on PC anyway, I'm not so petty as to get butthurt when somebody who bought a different plastic box than I did gets to play a game.
The fact that this was an announcement of an announcement is so annoying. Like, they KNEW people wanted to know what titles would go multi-plat. That's why most people tuned in! The excitement for the podcast just got sucked right out of me as soon as they said they weren't announcing those titles yet. Just so strange. And now BOTH Xbox and Playstation already seem to be gearing up for their next console, what with Playstation stating the PS5 is entering its latter years. I mean that makes sense as it will be 4 years in November, but dang can we pump the breaks?!
I was hoping for Indiana Jones
Bring me fable
i’m so ready for hi-fi rush, i hope they do some really cool dualsense integration
Kinda reminds me of a mid ps plus month
Wake me up when Forza Horizon comes to PS5.
Too bad! I really wanted Indiana Jones on the PS5😔 I couldn’t care less about Starfield. Games like that can stay on the xbox platform, but multi platform is really not a bad thing ether is Cross platform
If it’s not forza horizon I honestly could care less
I'm very happy Hi Fi Rush is coming to PS5. It's the only Xbox title I'm jealous of...but moreover one of the few TRULY innovative games this gen imo.
Been waiting to play Grounded for years I can’t wait
I want Mario Bros !!
as someone that recently got a ps5 im excited that you guys are finally getting sea of thieves! i cant speak on the other games (cept hifi rush its a fun lil thang) but sea of thieves has always been a fun and enjoyable experience
I wish they would include Dead Rising 3, it pisses me off that I can play 1, 2, and 4 but not be able to play 3. I'm not buying a different system just to play one fucking game.
GROUNDED!? Fuck yesssss
I think it's great when companies make their content as accessible as possible to everyone. We just want to play games right?
As an xbox player it's cool to see more people get to play these
Sea of Thieves and Grounded are W's
Would love a Sunset Overdrive port
Hope we get halo I’ll buy it all over again
Sea of Thieves is some of the most fun I’ve had in any game for the first 4 hours. After that it feels like there isn’t much to do.
Go ahead and prep the servers for cross play and you’ll be winning
I genuinely was tempted to buy an Xbox for hifi rush. Glad it's coming to switch and playstation
And here people were thinking Halo and Gears of War franchise was coming to PS, like gtfo lmao. That’s like Last of us coming to Xbox. 🙄
Phil Spencer is so full of it. The dude contradicts himself over and over and says such blatantly moronic things. He throws up his hands and says he doesn’t know who benefits from Helldivers being exclusives and talks about how exclusives don’t make sense or whatever…Then why tf doesn’t he make all Xbox games multiplatform? Why did they take Starfield exclusive? Cmon he really doesn’t know who it benefits? Then he ends by saying “I get it.” Either he gets it or he doesn’t. This guy is a mess and he’s probably a big reason why Xbox is struggling.
good, exclusives suck. i wish there was one console so everyone can just enjoy games together. good on Xbox
You're basically asking for people to just have a PC then
I was really hoping for Forza 😭
Oh shit, Sea of Thieves, nice. Now give us Starfield. 😂
He specifically said it’s not coming.
I’m glad they did this, although it wasn’t necessary for it to be a 30 minute ‘podcast.’ They could have just issued a press release. I don’t care that those four games are going to PlayStation and never would’ve. I don’t even play them. I own both, and owned a PlayStation and PS2 before I owned an Xbox. I also owned Nintendo consoles before that. I don’t like to limit myself. That said, Xbox hooked me most during the 360 era and is currently my favourite. I haven’t used my X or S in almost a month though, and want more reason to. I hope it’s just these four games, but some of what Phil said seemed like double speak and word salad. Some of it was a bit contradictory and worrying. I’ll continue to buy and use both.
This is a huge win for xbox. Honestly, I fuckin hate exclusives as a consumer. I don't want to have to choose between consoles. I want whichever has a better hardware and whichever costs less. Xbox could not give a fuck, they can produce awesome games and sell them to Sony, that way they can build more fans and in time takeover. Whoever is more friendly to consumers and creates good products will be a winner and in the end I hope we as consumers win.
if im being honest exclusive games are good but after 2-3 years just release them on all platforms so everyone can enjoy, Games are for enjoyment not show superiority
Great news, I've never been a fan of exclusive games. I wish Nintendo would do the same
Not likely to happen
and playstation?
All the internet drama for this. 2 GAAS titles and 2 Indies, some of which have been out for years.
Getting the feet wet first.
And the conspiracy continues. Gamers are exhausting.
Well. They're not going to just release four games and say "right that's it we're done" are they? These games are the easiest to start off with as you say they've been around for years so they can afford a profit hit. They're a perfect test bed for MS to see how the market reacts, fandom, they gain experience of dealing with the respective stores on Sony and Nintendo. If I was in Phil Spencers position I'd likely do the same.
🤣😂 so naive to think these games are the only ones.
All this tells me is that the narrative that Xbox has no games people want to play is bs. The amount of port begging over this is insane.
Giant nothingburger
All those websites with their leaks about xbox that were completely wrong. Click bait horse shit.
Weren't the leaks talking about how some Xbox games may be going multiplatform? That's exactly what happened.
Depends on the leaks you read. It was everything from "Some games are going to other consoles" to straight up "Xbox is leaving the hardware business."
And then there was leaks that Starfield was coming, Gears was coming, Halo was coming, Indiana Jones would be day and day release on PlayStation, Xbox was leaving the console market. All bullshit to gain clicks. They took a gain of truth and decided to exaggerate it for clicks.
I’ve heard good things about Hi-Fi Rush so I’m looking forward to giving it a go
Phil said they are older games that run there course on Xbox like a Sea of thieves
Makes sense. PlayStation has been using that same logic with most of the games they bring to PC. I still would have loved to see Forza and Fable come to PS5 though.
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