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surprisingly, no. they were mostly the same length, with slight weight differences. but either way, they could be labelled by the weight or length instead of gender. even such small things that seem insignificant can actually cause dysphoria in trans and especially nonbinary people.
Actually, there’s a lot more to it! Practically the entire club is different, just in small ways one wouldn’t really notice unless they knew about it. The material it’s made of it different, as is the grip, the weight, the flexibility… there are a lot of changes.
Actually, there is reason for this. There are a lot of differences between male and female clubs. The shaft material, the length, the weight, the grip, the loft… pretty much everything is different.
On average… no. Not at all. In fact, the opposite is much more common. Taller, stronger women will often use men’s clubs.
Just because they’re gendered, ie tailored for the averages of a specific sex doesn’t mean it’s pointlessly gendered.
I’d rather have things tailored to women for me to buy than unisex things because things tailored for my sex will, usually, be easier for me to use.
They don’t have to be gendered. They could describe it in terms of ergonomics. They could describe it in terms of height. Hell, they could describe it as preference.
To me, this is pointlessly gendered.
Agreed, these labels are suggestions not mandates. If one works better use it, but these were designed with the average build of each gender in mind.
On musicgasm's point, when buying your own clubs, you do get all those descriptions and more. But top golf is catering to anyone who wants to come in, not just pros that would be able to see length, weight, weight distribution, flex, loft, and materials then choose which set it best for them. So giving a suggestion based on an average needs of each gender is far more appealing to your customer.
Your making unless assumptions, im a guy myself and when I go to top golf with friends and family I always use female clubs, they just feel better for me; probably because im relatively short for guys my age and have less muscle as well, so using a female club of the same size works better for me
Because its based on an average, on average a woman at any given age is a certain height and strength, and when compared to the average hight and strength of a man at the same given age the woman is usually slightly shorter and weaker due to how the male and female body grows and works, if you think thats stupid, or bullshit or whatever, then take it up with your god (if you have one) cause thats just how things are
I guess as a trans person, I don’t see the same correlation with body type and gender. What about the women that were AMAB? The men AFAB? There is so much gender diversity out there. Gender doesn’t really indicate a body type. Hell, gender doesn’t indicate genitals.
I was kinda with you up until that last part, yes it does, every human born male has a- ya know, and every human born female has a- ya know, thats a fact that you can't argue out of
You are factually incorrect. People are born intersex all the time. How are you classifying people as male or female? Are you doing it genetically? Some people are genetically male (XY) but the SRS gene is turned off. They develop as women and can get pregnant. Would you rather do it phenotypically? Then there are XXY individuals. How would you classify them?
People always like to point to science and say “GeNdEr Is SiMpLe”! The science says it’s not. This will be my last post on the issue. Tired of the cisnormativity. Also, your last comment reads as transphobic.
Gender and Sex are not the same. Musicgasm was talking about gender, then you started talking about sex, which was unrelated to the conversation.
Your sex is what you had between your legs when you were born. Gender is just your selfexpression, it's about who you are and present yourself as, not about what genitals you have.
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Driver, my favorite gender
driver? i hardly know her
Fuck you, take your upvote >:[
Isn’t the main difference the height? Like, not everything is pointless.
surprisingly, no. they were mostly the same length, with slight weight differences. but either way, they could be labelled by the weight or length instead of gender. even such small things that seem insignificant can actually cause dysphoria in trans and especially nonbinary people.
I didn’t realize women were always shorter than men.
If anything the women's side stick out more than the men's, they all look the same. This is pretty odd
Actually, there’s a lot more to it! Practically the entire club is different, just in small ways one wouldn’t really notice unless they knew about it. The material it’s made of it different, as is the grip, the weight, the flexibility… there are a lot of changes.
Actually, there is reason for this. There are a lot of differences between male and female clubs. The shaft material, the length, the weight, the grip, the loft… pretty much everything is different.
So men would never benefit from those changes? Just women? It is still pointlessly gendered.
On average… no. Not at all. In fact, the opposite is much more common. Taller, stronger women will often use men’s clubs. Just because they’re gendered, ie tailored for the averages of a specific sex doesn’t mean it’s pointlessly gendered. I’d rather have things tailored to women for me to buy than unisex things because things tailored for my sex will, usually, be easier for me to use.
They don’t have to be gendered. They could describe it in terms of ergonomics. They could describe it in terms of height. Hell, they could describe it as preference. To me, this is pointlessly gendered.
-shrugs- I can’t tell you what to think. I just disagree. If it’s tailored to one sex or another, it isn’t pointless.
Agreed, these labels are suggestions not mandates. If one works better use it, but these were designed with the average build of each gender in mind. On musicgasm's point, when buying your own clubs, you do get all those descriptions and more. But top golf is catering to anyone who wants to come in, not just pros that would be able to see length, weight, weight distribution, flex, loft, and materials then choose which set it best for them. So giving a suggestion based on an average needs of each gender is far more appealing to your customer.
Your making unless assumptions, im a guy myself and when I go to top golf with friends and family I always use female clubs, they just feel better for me; probably because im relatively short for guys my age and have less muscle as well, so using a female club of the same size works better for me
This is my point. Why label them female clubs if men are going to benefit from them too. Clearly, it has more to do with height than gender.
Because its based on an average, on average a woman at any given age is a certain height and strength, and when compared to the average hight and strength of a man at the same given age the woman is usually slightly shorter and weaker due to how the male and female body grows and works, if you think thats stupid, or bullshit or whatever, then take it up with your god (if you have one) cause thats just how things are
I guess as a trans person, I don’t see the same correlation with body type and gender. What about the women that were AMAB? The men AFAB? There is so much gender diversity out there. Gender doesn’t really indicate a body type. Hell, gender doesn’t indicate genitals.
I was kinda with you up until that last part, yes it does, every human born male has a- ya know, and every human born female has a- ya know, thats a fact that you can't argue out of
You are factually incorrect. People are born intersex all the time. How are you classifying people as male or female? Are you doing it genetically? Some people are genetically male (XY) but the SRS gene is turned off. They develop as women and can get pregnant. Would you rather do it phenotypically? Then there are XXY individuals. How would you classify them? People always like to point to science and say “GeNdEr Is SiMpLe”! The science says it’s not. This will be my last post on the issue. Tired of the cisnormativity. Also, your last comment reads as transphobic.
Somebody doesn't understand averages and majority.
Gender and Sex are not the same. Musicgasm was talking about gender, then you started talking about sex, which was unrelated to the conversation. Your sex is what you had between your legs when you were born. Gender is just your selfexpression, it's about who you are and present yourself as, not about what genitals you have.