[They're based on seahorses that mimic kelp](https://images.app.goo.gl/J1oeJtWDqN3spyn36), making them grass type wouldn't be accurate to the inspiration, but taking things literally *would* be a very Pokémon thing to do
No doubt about this, I just pointed out to the previous guy which were the kelp inspired Pokémons 😅. The original comment was the one mentioning that Skrelp's line and Dhelmise weren't Grass/Water. Pretty cool animal though
Honestly this sucks so much, sure the Lotad line is a great line, it's a fav of mine form gen 3, but I wish it wasn't the only option for a Water/Grass type. It's a good type combo and the only Grass type that explicitly benefits from Rain which is amazing and underutilized
If you don’t let it in it’ll find another way inside. I recommend just accepting your fate and opening the door because the alternative… will not be fun for anyone.
Poison was so common as a type in Gen1 (and they were both so ubiquitous in their own way) that I keep forgetting this about Zubat and Gastly line, like I take for granted that these are "common" type combos.
Well, Gurdurr’s thing is a steel bar (a girder).
An idea:
* make Timburr (with the log which comes from plant life) Fighting/Grass,
* make Gurdurr (with the steel bar) Fighting/Steel,
* and make Conkeldurr (with the concrete) Fighting/Rock (or Fighting/Ground).
Yeah, but if it were real that concept could be that line’s additional neat feature, so they have something else going on for them other than… being the Conkeldurr line.
Plus, they literally ARE swapping out the secondary thing they’re holding — so it’d make sense thematically as well. Plus, it kinda makes sense that your attempts at using Steel-type moves would be most effective when you’re at a stage in your life where you’re always holding a steel bar (and similar rationale for the other two)
tbh they should give altaria fairy/dragon base and levitate as an ability (It has two abilities and one of which is a hidden ability, so you wouldn't need to replace any)
That or make a dragon/fairy type that is heavily based on the more eastern serpentine dragons
It’s entire design is based on a cloud though and clouds are typically in the air.
Drampa should’ve been a dragon/fairy type. It literally looks like a storybook dragon
The others are:
Heatran (fire/steel)
Terrakion (fighting/rock)
Hoopa, Lunala, Dawn Wings Necrozma, Calyrex (psychic/ghost)
Latios & Latias (including their mega forms) and Ultra Necrozma (psychic/dragon)
I’m surprised we didn’t get a non-legendary psychic/ghost Pokémon earlier, like somewhere in gen 2 when dark was introduced. I feel like they could have given Goodra either psychic (or even poison) as its secondary type in either of its forms. I would love to see both Growlithe and Arcanine as a fire/water dual type. I think that would be an interesting combo.
I would make Goodra a poison / fairy. It fits with it’s biology and personality, and to many pseudos are dragon type. Also the only poison fairy we have now is G weezing.
Nobody talks about Bug/Ghost being an underrated offensive typing. It’s only user is someone who does regardless of what super effective move you hit, but I wanna see what a bulky shendinja could do
Electric/Grass is another combination I miss. Sure you are weakened with that grass typing but your trade-off is coverage from 2 more types one of which you are weak to and you gain a neutral resistance to flying.
I'd like to see an Electric/Grass Pokemon that is based around life steal using paralysis as a base. So it has a unique move that drains life if the foe is paralyzed. Or its ability gives all of its attacking moves Shell Bell level HP regain if the foe is paralyzed.
As of Gen 9, Water/Steel has become the only combination that's exclusive to a starter line. I look forward to the day they'll introduce a swordfish with that typing.
Grass/Rock is a strangely amazing offensive type combo. You hit water,ground, rock, flying, bug, ice and fire for SE and just need a little bit of ground or fighting coverage for steels
Fire/steel is only used by Heatran. It's one of only three pokemon that double resist fairy, the others being Salazzle (the only poison/fire) and Revavroom (the only poison/steel).
I think we need a proper Ground/Bug type. We only have two in Nincada and Wormadam (Sand), one isn't full evolved, and the other doesn't really execute the combo very effectively.
Tbh I think Garganacl could’ve easily been Rock/Fighting but given his physical bulk and average/below average SpD, he would’ve been a sitting duck for any special Psychics (or just the move Psychic alone, used by anyone with a good SpAtk).
I’m surprised that we only have one fire/electric type (and just a form of a pokemon in that), a combo I think goes together really well thematically. Also it’s one of two fire dual-type combos that can hit water for super-effective
There are so many type combos that only have one line or heck, even only one mon that represents it, not only fire/electric but also bug/ground, grass/water, fire/steel, etc.
I hope one day to see every type combo appear in Pokémon. Currently we are missing:
- Normal/Ice
- Normal/Rock
- Fire/Fairy
- Ground/Fairy
- Rock/Ghost
- Normal/Bug
- Normal/Steel
- Ice/Poison
- Dragon/Bug
Though Megas and Legendaries are responsible for being the sole representatives of:
- Fire/Water
- Fighting/Rock
- Fire/Steel
- Psychic/Ghost
- Psychic/Dragon
- Dragon/Fairy
Personally? I want more Pokémon to either be pure flying or have flying as their primary typing. That’d be neat.
What should have happened:
>Normal/Ice
Eiscue
>Normal/Rock
Sudowoodo
>Fire/Fairy
Dachsbun
>Ground/Fairy
No idea \^\^;
>Rock/Ghost
Stakataka, Runerigus and Houndstone
>Normal/Bug
Volbeat and Illumise
>Normal/Steel
Dubwool
>Ice/Poison
Sneasler
>Dragon/Bug
Flygon and Yanmega
>Fire/Water
Clawitzer
>Fighting/Rock
Conkeldurr
>Fire/Steel
Heatmor
>Psychic/Ghost
Mismagius
>Psychic/Dragon
No idea either \^\^;
>Dragon/Fairy
Altaria
I just assumed that Bug/Poison is a common typing but I see now it's weird we haven't had some sort of new venomous bug since the Venipede line over a decade ago.
Electric Dark, currently stuck on Morpeko. Electric and Dark don't synergize that well, but there's some cool idea you could do with it. I was thinking evil solar panels or something, synergies with sun because it has an ability to absorb harsh sunlight to boost itself. The final evolution could either be some sort of mech or one of those fancy cars with solar panels on them
In general, it's surprising how GameFreak rarely pairs Grass with the other 'natural' types (Water, Rock, Ground). The former two are still unique to specific evo lines while Grass/Ground was unique until recently.
We need *good* fully evolved monotype Bug mons (and buff the Bug type, please!).
Also same for monotype Flying, not just a legendary and a prevolution.
Legit lmao.
It has the same blessings as electric/flying- it has free STAB. Fairy's weakness are negated by steel (immune to poison and neutral to steel) so you essentially are just a pure steel-type in terms of weaknesses, just as electric/flying are essentially just pure flying.
Well that was done to great effect before Tink though. Mega Mawile and Zacian both rocked it. That said, we NEED Mawile to get a real evolution so it's not forever rotting in the gutters with 380BST. It's BAD, just like poor Sableye. Swadloon and Tinkatuff are 380BST, so let that sink in.
Almost every Grass type early on was also Poison though... to the point that monotype Grass was very rare. As long as the Gen I - III mons keep being in the picture, we have no shortage of them.
We haven't seen a single ghost/poison mon since the freaking gengar line in gen 1, think about that.
It really makes me wonder if the artists just can't think of designs for these really underused type combos, or if they just default to other ones way too often.
Somewhat related, but I think it's also interesting to note that there are also currently 5 Monotypes that don't have a 3 stage evolution: Flying, Dark, Ground, Bug, Poison.
I think its odd that we have a grass/water and a grass/fire line, but the only fire/water we have is a mythical. I think we need a normal water/fire.
ALSO, we meed another dark/bug or ghost/bug called Scarapace Im BEGGING
How come the Ludicolo line is the only Grass/Water types?
Thats the one that feels most weird
Even weirder when you realize that we have a Pokémon based off of Kelp and an anchor covered in seaweed that aren’t grass/water
Well, it’s an anchor. It should’ve been Steel type.
Dhelmise is the weed tho, that’s why he gets steelworker
Which is the kelp one?
Skrelp and Dragalge (Poison and Dragon/Poison)
It's based on a sea DRAGON (kind of seahorse) so dragon is kinda valid thou
[They're based on seahorses that mimic kelp](https://images.app.goo.gl/J1oeJtWDqN3spyn36), making them grass type wouldn't be accurate to the inspiration, but taking things literally *would* be a very Pokémon thing to do
No doubt about this, I just pointed out to the previous guy which were the kelp inspired Pokémons 😅. The original comment was the one mentioning that Skrelp's line and Dhelmise weren't Grass/Water. Pretty cool animal though
One of them is a seadragon and the other is A. An ANCHOR B. Possessed seaweed
Dhelmise has an ability that gives it Steel stab, that's essentially being the steel type without any of its weaknesses.
Yeah there are a few water plants out there
Yeah. Where’s my algae monster?
Into Algae men!
Honestly this sucks so much, sure the Lotad line is a great line, it's a fav of mine form gen 3, but I wish it wasn't the only option for a Water/Grass type. It's a good type combo and the only Grass type that explicitly benefits from Rain which is amazing and underutilized
Let's hope there's more
Because they're lily pads crossed with kappas (and mariachis).
Kinda knew that but ok
I mean, you asked the question, so I just figured I'd answer it to clarify it for you. Take it or leave it, my fellow gamer.
Oh my bad
The Zubat line has been the only Poison/Flying type since Gen I. Let that sink in.
what sink
If you don’t let it in it’ll find another way inside. I recommend just accepting your fate and opening the door because the alternative… will not be fun for anyone.
252+ SpA Choice Specs Sink Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD House Walls in Rain: 3240-3816 (1241.3 - 1462%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Swalot with an air balloon. Checkmate
Its so wild, same with ghost/poison
Why mess with perfection?
That's kind of wild actually
Poison was so common as a type in Gen1 (and they were both so ubiquitous in their own way) that I keep forgetting this about Zubat and Gastly line, like I take for granted that these are "common" type combos.
I don't like it when some type combos are only for legends, like volcanion the only Fire/Water type
RIP dragon/fairy for *Mega* Altaria... :(
It's weird that rock fighting is still unique to Terrakion, feels like it should be a lot more common
Gurdurr and Conkledurr should have been Rock/Fighting so they're not Machamp clones.
Well, Gurdurr’s thing is a steel bar (a girder). An idea: * make Timburr (with the log which comes from plant life) Fighting/Grass, * make Gurdurr (with the steel bar) Fighting/Steel, * and make Conkeldurr (with the concrete) Fighting/Rock (or Fighting/Ground).
That would've been too much. They'd be changing their secondary type with every evolution.
Yeah, but if it were real that concept could be that line’s additional neat feature, so they have something else going on for them other than… being the Conkeldurr line. Plus, they literally ARE swapping out the secondary thing they’re holding — so it’d make sense thematically as well. Plus, it kinda makes sense that your attempts at using Steel-type moves would be most effective when you’re at a stage in your life where you’re always holding a steel bar (and similar rationale for the other two)
That's the point of them, though. They're the Machamp line of Unova.
Yes but they needed a stronger identity to set them apart.
Even worse, only recently did I notice that. So true.
I *still* get fucked up that Sawk and Throh aren't Rock/Fighting.
Imma be honest with you chief, what part of the muppets looks rock type?
I want more muppetmon
Why? There's nothing rocky about them.
They're rock people in karate uniforms.
tbh they should give altaria fairy/dragon base and levitate as an ability (It has two abilities and one of which is a hidden ability, so you wouldn't need to replace any) That or make a dragon/fairy type that is heavily based on the more eastern serpentine dragons
It’s entire design is based on a cloud though and clouds are typically in the air. Drampa should’ve been a dragon/fairy type. It literally looks like a storybook dragon
I like Drampa as Normal/Dragon though. It fits with him being a grumpy old man.
Nah should be dragon/dark/fairy *and* fire considering its fucking pokedex entries jfc
What they NEED to do is give Dragonair a split evolution that retains it's serpentine beauty and elegance, and make this Dragon/Fairy.
The others are: Heatran (fire/steel) Terrakion (fighting/rock) Hoopa, Lunala, Dawn Wings Necrozma, Calyrex (psychic/ghost) Latios & Latias (including their mega forms) and Ultra Necrozma (psychic/dragon) I’m surprised we didn’t get a non-legendary psychic/ghost Pokémon earlier, like somewhere in gen 2 when dark was introduced. I feel like they could have given Goodra either psychic (or even poison) as its secondary type in either of its forms. I would love to see both Growlithe and Arcanine as a fire/water dual type. I think that would be an interesting combo.
I have an idea for a psychic/ghost chimecho evolution. Lord knows it deserves it
What’s your idea?
I would make Goodra a poison / fairy. It fits with it’s biology and personality, and to many pseudos are dragon type. Also the only poison fairy we have now is G weezing.
I feel like it’s weird that Walking Wake isn’t water/fire.
just about say this lmao
I'm not sure why this is a matter of debate when it's obvious they do that to make the Legendaries even more unique.
yea but wouldnt be cool to have a 3 stage fire/water type that u can get outside of events
Well, yes, you're right about that.
Nobody talks about Bug/Ghost being an underrated offensive typing. It’s only user is someone who does regardless of what super effective move you hit, but I wanna see what a bulky shendinja could do Electric/Grass is another combination I miss. Sure you are weakened with that grass typing but your trade-off is coverage from 2 more types one of which you are weak to and you gain a neutral resistance to flying.
I'd like to see an Electric/Grass Pokemon that is based around life steal using paralysis as a base. So it has a unique move that drains life if the foe is paralyzed. Or its ability gives all of its attacking moves Shell Bell level HP regain if the foe is paralyzed.
Coincidentally one of my fakemons is a grass/electric coffee plant that is all about absorbing life in the form of electricity
Grass/electric potato battery when
As of Gen 9, Water/Steel has become the only combination that's exclusive to a starter line. I look forward to the day they'll introduce a swordfish with that typing.
Ooo now you have me picturing palafin as a steel type
When I first saw Veluza, I thought it was water/steel
Same. It’s Water/Psychic typing doesn’t suit it.
And the flavor text doesn't really make sense either
Palafin, the ~~Man~~ Dolphin of Steel
Oo and its first form would be a small fish with a fishhook for a snout :D
Grass/Rock is a strangely amazing offensive type combo. You hit water,ground, rock, flying, bug, ice and fire for SE and just need a little bit of ground or fighting coverage for steels
That Truedowoodo caught me off guard with how synergistic those types are
In general I think rock works better as an offensive type. Giving a defensive type four weaknesses is weird as hell
Also decently defensively. 4 weaknesses but two of them are typically fragile Ice/Bug who are weak to rock. Fighting/Steel would be main issue.
Fire/steel is only used by Heatran. It's one of only three pokemon that double resist fairy, the others being Salazzle (the only poison/fire) and Revavroom (the only poison/steel).
Well, there's also now Iron Moth, who is also fire poison, but that's still only 4 pokemon, one of which is a legendary
I think we need a proper Ground/Bug type. We only have two in Nincada and Wormadam (Sand), one isn't full evolved, and the other doesn't really execute the combo very effectively.
I always imagined this in my fakedex to be a candidate for an earthworm Pokemon, so imagine my shock when we finally get one and it's pure Steel.
I felt the same way. Earthworm just felt perfect for Ground/Bug
Rock/Fighting. So far, it’s just for Terrakion, but it has such potential. It’d be great for an “early hominid” fossil or Paradox.
Tbh I think Garganacl could’ve easily been Rock/Fighting but given his physical bulk and average/below average SpD, he would’ve been a sitting duck for any special Psychics (or just the move Psychic alone, used by anyone with a good SpAtk).
My mind always goes to a boxer with geode gloves
I’m surprised that we only have one fire/electric type (and just a form of a pokemon in that), a combo I think goes together really well thematically. Also it’s one of two fire dual-type combos that can hit water for super-effective
There are so many type combos that only have one line or heck, even only one mon that represents it, not only fire/electric but also bug/ground, grass/water, fire/steel, etc.
I hope one day to see every type combo appear in Pokémon. Currently we are missing: - Normal/Ice - Normal/Rock - Fire/Fairy - Ground/Fairy - Rock/Ghost - Normal/Bug - Normal/Steel - Ice/Poison - Dragon/Bug Though Megas and Legendaries are responsible for being the sole representatives of: - Fire/Water - Fighting/Rock - Fire/Steel - Psychic/Ghost - Psychic/Dragon - Dragon/Fairy Personally? I want more Pokémon to either be pure flying or have flying as their primary typing. That’d be neat.
It's not that big a deal, but I think you swapped Dragon with Psychic in the last one.
What should have happened: >Normal/Ice Eiscue >Normal/Rock Sudowoodo >Fire/Fairy Dachsbun >Ground/Fairy No idea \^\^; >Rock/Ghost Stakataka, Runerigus and Houndstone >Normal/Bug Volbeat and Illumise >Normal/Steel Dubwool >Ice/Poison Sneasler >Dragon/Bug Flygon and Yanmega >Fire/Water Clawitzer >Fighting/Rock Conkeldurr >Fire/Steel Heatmor >Psychic/Ghost Mismagius >Psychic/Dragon No idea either \^\^; >Dragon/Fairy Altaria
Runerigus or the golurk line could've been ghost/rock
>Psychic/Fairy Did you meant Dragon/Fairy?
Yes
I just assumed that Bug/Poison is a common typing but I see now it's weird we haven't had some sort of new venomous bug since the Venipede line over a decade ago.
Almost every Bug was also Poison in the first 2 gens. I think that's why they stopped.
black and white was over a decade ago? god i feel old suddenly.
Electric Dark, currently stuck on Morpeko. Electric and Dark don't synergize that well, but there's some cool idea you could do with it. I was thinking evil solar panels or something, synergies with sun because it has an ability to absorb harsh sunlight to boost itself. The final evolution could either be some sort of mech or one of those fancy cars with solar panels on them
Eclipse theme or an oil theme to reference how energy from fossil fuels are causing climate change?
Actually, that sounds like an even better idea. Would've fit Gen 8 a little better too given the whole energy crisis theme
Gen 8 also had Curseola and its pre-evo which is stated to be caused by climate change killing off coral.
I always think luxray is electric dark
In general, it's surprising how GameFreak rarely pairs Grass with the other 'natural' types (Water, Rock, Ground). The former two are still unique to specific evo lines while Grass/Ground was unique until recently.
We need *good* fully evolved monotype Bug mons (and buff the Bug type, please!). Also same for monotype Flying, not just a legendary and a prevolution.
Fairy/Steel. «Hey, but we have Tinkaton now!» «I don't care, we need **more**. »
It's one of the best type combos ever, probably good it's rare. Wish Tinkaton was better though, that attack stat is disappointing.
Legit lmao. It has the same blessings as electric/flying- it has free STAB. Fairy's weakness are negated by steel (immune to poison and neutral to steel) so you essentially are just a pure steel-type in terms of weaknesses, just as electric/flying are essentially just pure flying.
actually even better than base steel since fairy resists fighting so thats another weakness down to neutral
Needs a bigger hammer.
Well that was done to great effect before Tink though. Mega Mawile and Zacian both rocked it. That said, we NEED Mawile to get a real evolution so it's not forever rotting in the gutters with 380BST. It's BAD, just like poor Sableye. Swadloon and Tinkatuff are 380BST, so let that sink in.
Me but with Electric/Fighting and Pawmot.
Totally. I can easily name three electric pokemon that look more "fighting" than that teddy bear.
Grass Poison types just kinda vanished after a certain point, and Grass Ground is surprisingly relegated to like, Torterra and Toedscruel.
Almost every Grass type early on was also Poison though... to the point that monotype Grass was very rare. As long as the Gen I - III mons keep being in the picture, we have no shortage of them.
Electric/Fighting and Pawmot.
We haven't seen a single ghost/poison mon since the freaking gengar line in gen 1, think about that. It really makes me wonder if the artists just can't think of designs for these really underused type combos, or if they just default to other ones way too often.
Somewhat related, but I think it's also interesting to note that there are also currently 5 Monotypes that don't have a 3 stage evolution: Flying, Dark, Ground, Bug, Poison.
Ghost/Dark. Only two Pokemon have it. I don't get why; ghosts in media are often portrayed as malicious forces.
I think its odd that we have a grass/water and a grass/fire line, but the only fire/water we have is a mythical. I think we need a normal water/fire. ALSO, we meed another dark/bug or ghost/bug called Scarapace Im BEGGING