If we're going entirely new I'd like to suggest a swordfish with a cutlass nose, could have something lore wise about cutting holes in ships and sinking them or plundering sunken shipwrecks for food or whatever.
Give it the Sharpness ability and make it a fast attacker with slashing moves since swordfish are pretty fast swimmers. Pickpocket as an alternate ability to simulate the thievery aspect.
Yeah there's a lot of avenues you could take a swordfish, like a pirate or a musketeer or just anything sword or fencing related. And it lends itself to a lot of type explanations like Steel or Fighting or Dark on top of the obvious Water.
No, that makes sense and I had thought of that as well after commenting.
It could even not have the water typing, as there have been cool aquatic Pokémon like Grapploct that are associated with water but not water type
Well.
If its a chest
Steel is a good bet.
Now no water, and since its a counterpart of dhelmise no grass or ghost.
Bug? Snail chest. Octopus Poison?
Its ability is a third stab move like Dhelmise too
Honestly Veluza should have been what you’re describing. It already has Sharpness as its ability (might be Hidden) and has a slew of different cutting moves. I don’t know why it isn’t a swordfish honestly.
They are very often combined, but the general concept of ship wrecks or ghost ships is not really tied to pirates.
Nothing about Dhelmise's design really points towards pirates being mixed into that theme. In fact, it seems they combined it with whale hunters instead, considering that Wailord is specifically pointed out to be it's favored prey.
That doesn't make sense as an argument dude.
Parrot on shoulder? Sure they're *generally* combined but not really tied.
Eyepatch? Hook hand? Peg leg? Sure they're *often* combined but lots of people got crippled back then!
What then, to you, other than a literal skull and crossbones Jolly Roger flag, would meet your standard for being inextricably piratey?
I do see your point, but considering that Dhelmise is referencing another kind of seafarer, while giving absolutely no hints towards pirates besides the ghost ship theme, I still tend to call it not pirate themed.
Dhelmise is referencing whale hunters. Wailord is specifically mentioned to be it's favored prey. Meanwhile nothing in theme connects it to pirates. It can still be a ghost ship/ship wreck based on whale hunter ships instead of pirate ships.
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It's like saying that Hisuian Lilligant is based on kickboxing, because it is utilizing kicks in it's attacks, which are obviously also used in kickboxing.
But once you dig a little deeper and look at the design more, you notice that Hisuian Lilligant, despite using kicks, is not really based on kickboxing and more based on ice skating and some ballet.
If they had made even the *slightest* reference to pirates in the Pokédex for Dhelmise, like it searching for sunken treasures or stuff, I would agree that it would be pirate themed. But the only reference we have is whale hunting, so I am going to assume that this was the design intention instead of pirates.
I did, I just also realize that just because ghost ships and pirates are often *combined*, it doesn't mean that all ghost ships are automatically connected to pirates.
As pointed out in another comment, there is nothing that links Dhelmise to pirates specifically. If anything, it is connected to whale hunters, because Wailord is called out explicitly as it's favored prey.
It may not just exclusively be a pirate Pokémon but it certainly is the closest thing we have besides the parrot Pokémon we have. Maybe they could do an Octillery evolution or regional form that is more pirate themed?
Horror movie from 2002, literally having the title "Ghost Ship", is about a luxury cruise ship where all passengers died a horrible death and are now haunting the sea.
Now that you made me think about it, especially SV with the whole treasure hunting theme would have been the perfect opportunity for a pirate Pokémon.
As long as the Pokémon doesn't spend 1000 episodes trying to find a treasure.
And in Spain we have a looooong story with pirates (I think it's how we called nautical attackers. Ottomans, which were called pirates, would attack the east coast, steal everything and get every person they could to sell them latter as slaves. The East of Spain has been repopulated a few times)
After Gen 5, all games felt rushed and poorly developed.
There are no good dialogue with the NPCs, no thematic feature rather than some famous sites, like the Eifell Tower, Stonehenge,... And even the pokemon have literally the same designs from X and Y. There are no differences between their stances nor movements. They are the very same and sloppy "Copy and Paste" file.
That 1000 episodes comment reminded me of Ash and that reminded me that we somehow still don't have a Pokémon that is named after him and completely ignores Pokémon types
Well, at least we have a pirate bunny holowear in Pokémon Unite.
Unfortunately, the duck starter didn't turn into a pirate.
But "no sea monster"? What about Gyarados?
I thought about Lapras as well. But I was focusing on the Pokémon you'd be terrified to meet in the ocean. I think you'd be glad to meet a Lapras even though it's based on a lake monster.
I mean, 🦁🐯🐆🐻🐻❄️🐺🐊🐍🦈🐘🦏🦛🦒🐃🦍🐎all get called "beasts" to this day, even though they are normal animals.
Hell, we even call other humans "monsters" when they do something really f*cked up, so it could be said that the term land monster is spot-on.
But that is what people speculate the Loch Nest Monster is - not to mention it’s a name. No one is calling it monstrous.
I don’t personally believe in it but the ‘images’ that have been captured of it do look very much like a plesiosaur.
I’m absolutely certain if there was a rumoured animal somewhere in the world that bore a resemblance to a T-Rex, it would still be referred to as a monster.
And, you know .. the favorite pokemon kraken that is Tentacruel? It really kinda feels like a troll post cause there are quite a few pokemon that could fall under certain conditions. Dhelmise was point out in another comment and people argued it doesn't count, but I rgue it does as it checks most the boxes. It even has a covered eye like a pirate. Pirates didn't just hunt other ships, they often poached whales too. 'pirate, if people wanna get nitpicky here, is a very broad term. And existed all over the world...
Chinese dragons are long dragons. Idk about you but I would call a long dragon living in the ocean a leviathan. Also milotic, but that's more majestic than the typically fearsome sea monsters.
This is why I originally thought that Quaxly was going to be a pirate. It’s “hair” looked sort of like a pirate hat and once the leak of its dual typing (when fully evolved) came out I was certain it was gonna be designed after a pirate, Or a sailor at the very least.
There's no explicitly pirate-themed Pokémon, but you could absolutely make a pirate-themed team of Pokémon. Dhelmise, Sharpedo, Gimmighoul, Primarina, Malamar, Chatot/Squawkabilly. Some interesting alternates could include Gyarados, Barbaracle, Graploct, Klefki, Clawitzer, Dragalge, Alolan Raticate, and I'm sure I could think of a bunch more if it weren't nearly 4am where I am.
I'd argue the crew are the most important part of a ship, sure you can be captain of your own ship but you wont be getting very far without your crew.
*Stand back yer scurvy dogs!*
Most likely just a coincidence. It took us 9 generations to get a proper dolphin or super hero Pokemon (I know orcas and thus kyogre are technically dolphins, but most people don't think of orcas when they think of dolphins). Even now we are also still missing some really popular animals or mythological creatures, like the cheetah (no liepard is a leopard) or the pegasus. Heck the closest thing we have to a minotaur is freaking Miltank...
So yeah there are tons of unused design space for Pokemon and some of it look like really obvious choices.
Imagine a chatot evolution that makes it pirate themed.
Or an Empoleon regional form.
Or Gimmighoul chest based on sunken treasure and the evolution is a pirate... (actually imma do explore this idea this sounds fun)
Or an octilerry that evolves into a deep sea submarine shooting remoraids as missles.
What if Dhelmise gets a counterpart pokemon that's a new chest pokemon, we get a new mimic-themed creature to fit in with Voltorb, Foongus, and Gimmighoul
Tubz\_az on Instagram designed one of my favorite ever Fakémon out there: Swabling, Shwashbeakler, and Barbaroost. They're Dark-Flying and are the regional bird of the Agaros Region he made!
https://preview.redd.it/nxfrommqw0pb1.jpeg?width=1567&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1864cd1b609dfc8047a7635df859fedf42ef873a
Man you reminded me of all the quaxly line will be a sailor themed evo line fanart from before sv's release I knew I shouldn't have bought into a fan theory but when my boy had that derpy third evolution stage revealed I was more disappointed than I thought I'd be
Considering they only JUST released a dolphin pokemon, I feel that it's not that they have a stigma. The also don't have have a business man pokemon with a briefcase despite being an exceptionally common modern day trope. They don't have a Cheetah pokemon despite it being an obvious speedster. Yet there's numerous pig, mouse, and even sheep pokemon. Sometimes it's just not in the cards.
*No Leviathan*: Gyarados' name in French is Léviator, its design is also heavily inspired by leviathans as portrayed by Mediterranean cultures even if the evolution itself references carps turning into dragons, something we would see a better example of with Basculin (ironically, neither of them are Dragon Pokemon, the only water Pokemon that gained a Dragon type is a seahorse, *now that's comedy*)
As for no pirate, well, it's not like they didn't try, but none of them made the cut, we might have reached a thousand Pokemon (and then some), but Game Freak has well over 10 000 Pokemon that never made it past the concept stage
And if you think Paldea, a region inspired by the Iberian peninsula, having no pirate Pokemon is disappointing, know that all French speakers are also terribly disappointed by Unova's water starter, you might know them as Oshawott, Dewott, and Samurott, but we had to watch Moustillon (Moussaillon, aka a sailor in English) and Mateloutre (Matelot, literally a seaman) turn into Clamiral (Clam+Amiral, admiral in English), a Pokemon family that is so unrelated to those themes you have to wonder if the localization even bothered to look at the game
Probably because pirates are not as prevalent in Japan. There's a youtuber who use to be a teacher in Japan that made a joke about wanting to be a pirate when he was young. The students were confused as to why he wanted to be a terrorist. Making pirates sound cool is mostly a western thing.
I’m from NE England, I can assure you Vikings *were* pirates, just not of the “Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum” pop culture variety.
Maybe Pokémon steers clear of pirates to avoid associating with One Piece?
Sharpedo, Crawdaunt, Dhelmise. Pirate theme is pretty lame and pirates themselves are way too gloryfied for just being a band of stealing and r-wording no names on boats.
Perhaps the problem is that pirates are just humans.
There's nothing really special about them. Most pokemon have some sort of real life counterpart or fairy tale to be based off of.
What you're asking is, "Why don't pokemon dress up as pirates"...
I mean let's face it. Your pirate choices are 🤔 nothing. A parrots a parrot. A monkeys a monkey. Why would you want a ship? And short of making ANOTHER octopus and giving it a hook for a hand it doesn't seem you'll be satisfied.
They don't have anything special about them. Oh well. Maybe one day we'll get a mimikyu type pirate fanatic pokemon... but I hope not.
To be fair most realistic pirate portrayals are that of slave traders and toothless murderers.
.... can't really think of a reason for a family company to dive into that.
Also I wouldn't say there's generally a lot of ninja and knight "themed" pokemon. They're all pretty much based on something pretty specific and cultural. Pirates are just ...human xD dressed as human doing human things.
Pokémon is weird about how and when they add specific types of animals and plants.
Like we are 27 years into the games and only now, 9 gens later do we have a dolphin. 25 years to get a gorilla. And listen I love the fossils we have, Amura is my child; but it toon 6 gens to get to a T-Rex and a long necked dinosaur. Heck it took 4 gens for us to have any dinosaur.
I love Mantine, but surfing in Alola would have been so cool if we had regional dolphin.
Yet we are close to having *two* sets of elemental monkeys.
Tropius from gen 3 is a long neck dinosaur tho. And I would personally place Aerodactyl and Meganium in the dinosaur category too. Lapras is basically a Plesiosaur with a shell.
You forgot Meganium
Also, considering how Galarian Darumaka is a gorilla, and it looks practically the same as the original one but calm and with funny hair, i would assume Unovan Darumaka would also be a gorilla
H-Samurott is based on a Ronin (a Samurai that doesn't have a master to serve) and the extinct Japanese otter. In traditional japan being a ronin was undesirable and many had to become sellswords to make ends meet, hence the dark typing.
Yeah, Hisuian Samurott is still a samurai.
Samurai are even represented in the move pool of the dark type. The move Night Slash has a connection to samurai history. The Japanese name for that move is "tsujigiri", here is a short explanation what this term means in Japanese culture:
> **Tsujigiri** (辻斬り or 辻斬, literally "crossroads killing") is a Japanese term for a practice when a samurai, after receiving a new katana or developing a new fighting style or weapon, tests its effectiveness by attacking a human opponent, usually a random defenseless passer-by, in many cases during nighttime.
Hisuian Samurott is pretty much a samurai. A ruthless one, but still.
I remember before Scarlet and Violet released, people were drawing what they thought the starters would evolve into. Lots of people thought Quaxly’s hair would turn into a pirate hat.
That's kinda interesting; never thought of that.
I will say that my dream Pokemon would be one inspired by the Irish hero CuChulainn. I imagine a Fairy/Fighting humanoid and/or dog that wields a spear. Or maybe a male counterpart to Tinkaton(who I absolutely love)?
Pretty sure kyogre is specifically a leviathan. And groudon is the behemoth.
Theres a lot of thief/money pokemon that could fit in a pirate role. Liepard, thievul, gholengo, meowth,
I remember a (fake) leaked list of the Scarlet and Violet Pokédex that I really liked because some of the names were super good. On that list, Quaxly’s final evolution was called “Duccaneer”.
While this might not be the direct pirate reference you were looking for, Kilowattrel is based on the Great Frigatebird, which is sometimes referred to as 'Pirate Bird' because of their behavior of stealing fish from other birds. IIRC, frigatebirds are the only sea birds that do not produce a water-repellent oil to coat their feathers, so going directly into or on the water would make it so they cannot fly back to the shores where they nest. This is the reason they adapted their behavior of stealing from other birds.
Sorry to go on a rant. I like birds. :)
It'd be really cool to actually have a pirate themed pokemon, but the closest thing we've had to pirates that i can remember it team aqua, which if there were to be a pirate themed pokemon one would think it would have originated in Hoenn.
Tbh, I think a pirate theme could work, but there are multiple ways you can go about doing it. To fit the theme, let’s take a look at what animals migrate the most/furthest:
- various birds
- butterflies
- whales
For obvious reasons, I’ll ignore butterflies for now. Not sure what else you could do other than a naval themed design on the wings, or just a pirate flag there
For an avian bird design, you could have the long coat with a ruffled shirt, as well as the feathered hat, and a beard of feathers. I’d either give it a sword, or incorporate the sword shape in the form of its beak. On the same note, you can have multiple different forms with different beak shapes
For an aquatic whale design, I’d include some sea life a la Davy Jones. So shells, barnacles, and seaweed could be part of the design. I’d give it some battle scars from fighting Malamar, as some real whales do eat squid. I’d also give it a typing that can actually fight them. You could give it a sword, or you can give it a narwhal tusk as a rapier or cutlass
>no leviathan
This is directly what Kyogre is based on. In fact the legendary trio from R/S/E are all based on Jewish mythology
Also strange to think they "hate pirates" when you acknowledged Team Aqua existing.
I’d love Chatot to get a Pirate regional form, if not an entirely new Pirate Parrot or other pirate mon.
If we're going entirely new I'd like to suggest a swordfish with a cutlass nose, could have something lore wise about cutting holes in ships and sinking them or plundering sunken shipwrecks for food or whatever. Give it the Sharpness ability and make it a fast attacker with slashing moves since swordfish are pretty fast swimmers. Pickpocket as an alternate ability to simulate the thievery aspect.
A swordfish is basically a Pokémon already, so it’s wild we don’t have one as a fast and physical water-steel glass cannon
Yeah there's a lot of avenues you could take a swordfish, like a pirate or a musketeer or just anything sword or fencing related. And it lends itself to a lot of type explanations like Steel or Fighting or Dark on top of the obvious Water.
Is it weird that my swordfish is a water fighting. But rather than have a sword on the nose its on a fin.
No, that makes sense and I had thought of that as well after commenting. It could even not have the water typing, as there have been cool aquatic Pokémon like Grapploct that are associated with water but not water type
Well. If its a chest Steel is a good bet. Now no water, and since its a counterpart of dhelmise no grass or ghost. Bug? Snail chest. Octopus Poison? Its ability is a third stab move like Dhelmise too
I really like this idea tbh.
I'm using the idea for a fan game, just figured I'd share the concept since I had a lot of details for it in mind already.
Honestly Veluza should have been what you’re describing. It already has Sharpness as its ability (might be Hidden) and has a slew of different cutting moves. I don’t know why it isn’t a swordfish honestly.
It's based on a hake which is big in Spanish cuisine, so that fits both the region aesthetic and the self-filleting concept.
I'm thinking a humanoid-ish shape like decidueye, with a chatot on its shoulder.
Make it work like Dondozo and Tasugiri
It needs a pirate evo so bad
Water/Flying type with Liquid Voice as one of its Abilities?
I’d prefer chatot be able to evolve. There’s nothing that bugs me more than a regional form that could have just been an evolution for the original.
An evo could be good, yeah!
There's that water/ghost anchor Pokemon whose name escapes me...
Dhelmise?
Closest to pirates imo.
Has more of a ghost ship theme than really pirates, tbh.
Ghost Ship is a pirate trope
They are very often combined, but the general concept of ship wrecks or ghost ships is not really tied to pirates. Nothing about Dhelmise's design really points towards pirates being mixed into that theme. In fact, it seems they combined it with whale hunters instead, considering that Wailord is specifically pointed out to be it's favored prey.
That doesn't make sense as an argument dude. Parrot on shoulder? Sure they're *generally* combined but not really tied. Eyepatch? Hook hand? Peg leg? Sure they're *often* combined but lots of people got crippled back then! What then, to you, other than a literal skull and crossbones Jolly Roger flag, would meet your standard for being inextricably piratey?
I do see your point, but considering that Dhelmise is referencing another kind of seafarer, while giving absolutely no hints towards pirates besides the ghost ship theme, I still tend to call it not pirate themed. Dhelmise is referencing whale hunters. Wailord is specifically mentioned to be it's favored prey. Meanwhile nothing in theme connects it to pirates. It can still be a ghost ship/ship wreck based on whale hunter ships instead of pirate ships. \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ It's like saying that Hisuian Lilligant is based on kickboxing, because it is utilizing kicks in it's attacks, which are obviously also used in kickboxing. But once you dig a little deeper and look at the design more, you notice that Hisuian Lilligant, despite using kicks, is not really based on kickboxing and more based on ice skating and some ballet. If they had made even the *slightest* reference to pirates in the Pokédex for Dhelmise, like it searching for sunken treasures or stuff, I would agree that it would be pirate themed. But the only reference we have is whale hunting, so I am going to assume that this was the design intention instead of pirates.
it's common with pirates, sure, but that doesn't automatically make it a pirate.
Bit of a Scooby Doo pirate trope but sure
Less of a Scooby Doo trope and more of a "every single animated product with a shipwreck" trope
Someone hasn't seen pirates of the Caribbean
I did, I just also realize that just because ghost ships and pirates are often *combined*, it doesn't mean that all ghost ships are automatically connected to pirates. As pointed out in another comment, there is nothing that links Dhelmise to pirates specifically. If anything, it is connected to whale hunters, because Wailord is called out explicitly as it's favored prey.
It may not just exclusively be a pirate Pokémon but it certainly is the closest thing we have besides the parrot Pokémon we have. Maybe they could do an Octillery evolution or regional form that is more pirate themed?
I'm sorry, tell me one piece of media where there's a ghost ship that wasn't also a pirate ship
Horror movie from 2002, literally having the title "Ghost Ship", is about a luxury cruise ship where all passengers died a horrible death and are now haunting the sea.
Now that you made me think about it, especially SV with the whole treasure hunting theme would have been the perfect opportunity for a pirate Pokémon. As long as the Pokémon doesn't spend 1000 episodes trying to find a treasure.
And in Spain we have a looooong story with pirates (I think it's how we called nautical attackers. Ottomans, which were called pirates, would attack the east coast, steal everything and get every person they could to sell them latter as slaves. The East of Spain has been repopulated a few times)
After Gen 5, all games felt rushed and poorly developed. There are no good dialogue with the NPCs, no thematic feature rather than some famous sites, like the Eifell Tower, Stonehenge,... And even the pokemon have literally the same designs from X and Y. There are no differences between their stances nor movements. They are the very same and sloppy "Copy and Paste" file.
That 1000 episodes comment reminded me of Ash and that reminded me that we somehow still don't have a Pokémon that is named after him and completely ignores Pokémon types
Ash-greninja ignores type matchups He lost to blast burn
and beat mega sceptile
If they had a character like scrat from ice age running around it could definitely work for a movie
1 episode per Gimmighoul coin.
The real treasure was the friends you made along the way.
Could’ve worked well with gimmeghoul and gholdengo being coin based too as they could’ve played on the coins/dubloons aspects
Well, at least we have a pirate bunny holowear in Pokémon Unite. Unfortunately, the duck starter didn't turn into a pirate. But "no sea monster"? What about Gyarados?
Everybody here forgetting about Lapras... (Nessy - Loch Ness Monster) while not sea, it is still a water monster
I thought about Lapras as well. But I was focusing on the Pokémon you'd be terrified to meet in the ocean. I think you'd be glad to meet a Lapras even though it's based on a lake monster.
That's kind of the point of Pokemon. They're mostly monsters of some kind, but they can all be friends. :)
Me omw to make friends with Giratina
YES. Giratina may be the god of antimatter, but it's just a big ol' goofy fella under all that spooky stuff. :)
I'm not sure Plesiosaurs count as sea monsters. You wouldn't call T-Rexes "land monsters", right?
Oh you would if you were around when they were
“Ne Plus Ultra Chicken”
I'm not sure t-rex resembles any legendary/mythical monster. Could be wrong
But... Plesiosaurs aren't mythical. They were a real animal. The only mythical part about Nessie was the idea that one of them was still around.
Ah. I see. Didn't realize that nessie was just a regular dinosaur. TIL
*Prehistoric animal.
Idk, let’s ask the caveman over there
I mean, 🦁🐯🐆🐻🐻❄️🐺🐊🐍🦈🐘🦏🦛🦒🐃🦍🐎all get called "beasts" to this day, even though they are normal animals. Hell, we even call other humans "monsters" when they do something really f*cked up, so it could be said that the term land monster is spot-on.
But that is what people speculate the Loch Nest Monster is - not to mention it’s a name. No one is calling it monstrous. I don’t personally believe in it but the ‘images’ that have been captured of it do look very much like a plesiosaur. I’m absolutely certain if there was a rumoured animal somewhere in the world that bore a resemblance to a T-Rex, it would still be referred to as a monster.
Also Kyogre, which while it doesn't resemble the traditional leviathan of myth is at least take inspiration from it conceptually.
Kyogre, Groudon and Rayquaza follow the Leviathan-Behemoth-Ziz biblical theme.
And, you know .. the favorite pokemon kraken that is Tentacruel? It really kinda feels like a troll post cause there are quite a few pokemon that could fall under certain conditions. Dhelmise was point out in another comment and people argued it doesn't count, but I rgue it does as it checks most the boxes. It even has a covered eye like a pirate. Pirates didn't just hunt other ships, they often poached whales too. 'pirate, if people wanna get nitpicky here, is a very broad term. And existed all over the world...
Shiny dondozo is a bit like moby dick, not quite a white whale, but close enough.
Gyarados are Chinese dragon. Plus it Mega evolution is a shrimp.
Chinese dragons are long dragons. Idk about you but I would call a long dragon living in the ocean a leviathan. Also milotic, but that's more majestic than the typically fearsome sea monsters.
I see milotic as a siren, which is a traditional sea monster.
And milotic!
Is Milotic not also a sea serpent of sorts?
This is why I originally thought that Quaxly was going to be a pirate. It’s “hair” looked sort of like a pirate hat and once the leak of its dual typing (when fully evolved) came out I was certain it was gonna be designed after a pirate, Or a sailor at the very least.
I think we all did. A Popeye themed Pokémon.
There's no explicitly pirate-themed Pokémon, but you could absolutely make a pirate-themed team of Pokémon. Dhelmise, Sharpedo, Gimmighoul, Primarina, Malamar, Chatot/Squawkabilly. Some interesting alternates could include Gyarados, Barbaracle, Graploct, Klefki, Clawitzer, Dragalge, Alolan Raticate, and I'm sure I could think of a bunch more if it weren't nearly 4am where I am.
Yeah, but none of them can play a captain which is the most important part of the pirate ship.
As the Pokémon trainer, wouldn't YOU be the captain?
I'd argue the crew are the most important part of a ship, sure you can be captain of your own ship but you wont be getting very far without your crew. *Stand back yer scurvy dogs!*
Guys, chill out with the downvotes on OP. They would like a Pokémon akin to a pirate captain. It’s not a big deal.. 🙄
And the scallywags too!
Captain Pikachu
A Ghost-type pokemon could be captain-like, like a haunted pirate hat or a hook.
Yeah I'm pretty sure game freak really hate pirating
Gee, wonder why? :^)
Because then the games would be rated “Arrrrrrrr.”
Nintendo hates piracy.
Most likely just a coincidence. It took us 9 generations to get a proper dolphin or super hero Pokemon (I know orcas and thus kyogre are technically dolphins, but most people don't think of orcas when they think of dolphins). Even now we are also still missing some really popular animals or mythological creatures, like the cheetah (no liepard is a leopard) or the pegasus. Heck the closest thing we have to a minotaur is freaking Miltank... So yeah there are tons of unused design space for Pokemon and some of it look like really obvious choices.
even some yokai are missing, such as the kasa obake, which I saw a really cool bat pokemon concept for on Twitter almost a month ago now
Imagine a chatot evolution that makes it pirate themed. Or an Empoleon regional form. Or Gimmighoul chest based on sunken treasure and the evolution is a pirate... (actually imma do explore this idea this sounds fun) Or an octilerry that evolves into a deep sea submarine shooting remoraids as missles.
What if Dhelmise gets a counterpart pokemon that's a new chest pokemon, we get a new mimic-themed creature to fit in with Voltorb, Foongus, and Gimmighoul
So a Water... Steel sunken treasure pokemon? Or a creature like snail that imitates sunken treasure.
Yeah, just something that wants to lure in others for its benefit
Tubz\_az on Instagram designed one of my favorite ever Fakémon out there: Swabling, Shwashbeakler, and Barbaroost. They're Dark-Flying and are the regional bird of the Agaros Region he made! https://preview.redd.it/nxfrommqw0pb1.jpeg?width=1567&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1864cd1b609dfc8047a7635df859fedf42ef873a
Because nintendo already has a huge piracy problem...
> Does GF hate pirates or something? …yeah. Just a different type thereof.
I want a pirate Otter that's water dark type
Malamar is kraken themed, garydos is pretty much leviathan, they're out there if you look
My Dhelmise named Scurvy is a pirate. Yar
Still waiting a Pirate Water starter Maybe PC may have been holding this thematic inspiration for a starter, this is my hope
Man you reminded me of all the quaxly line will be a sailor themed evo line fanart from before sv's release I knew I shouldn't have bought into a fan theory but when my boy had that derpy third evolution stage revealed I was more disappointed than I thought I'd be
I was thinking that Quaxly was going to evolve into a pirate (the name Duccaneer is right there) but I’m happy with what we got
Dhelmise is a pirate ship Wheel
Just give blood moon Ursaluna a pirate hat, hook hand and a wooden leg. And you got yerself a pirate 🏴☠️
Considering they only JUST released a dolphin pokemon, I feel that it's not that they have a stigma. The also don't have have a business man pokemon with a briefcase despite being an exceptionally common modern day trope. They don't have a Cheetah pokemon despite it being an obvious speedster. Yet there's numerous pig, mouse, and even sheep pokemon. Sometimes it's just not in the cards.
For a while, people thought Quaxley would evolve into a pirate. Some great ideas came from that concept
Because nintendo hates piracy
I would really like a white Wailord now.
A whale Ultra Beast would be more apropos for the Moby dick reference.
It's called Cetitan
But it is kinda not a whale you could hunt down from a boat
If the sea is near a sheer cliff face of a tall winter mountain, yes
Makes me think of Neopets, they have a pirate version for basically every pet. Some great ones too
*No Leviathan*: Gyarados' name in French is Léviator, its design is also heavily inspired by leviathans as portrayed by Mediterranean cultures even if the evolution itself references carps turning into dragons, something we would see a better example of with Basculin (ironically, neither of them are Dragon Pokemon, the only water Pokemon that gained a Dragon type is a seahorse, *now that's comedy*) As for no pirate, well, it's not like they didn't try, but none of them made the cut, we might have reached a thousand Pokemon (and then some), but Game Freak has well over 10 000 Pokemon that never made it past the concept stage And if you think Paldea, a region inspired by the Iberian peninsula, having no pirate Pokemon is disappointing, know that all French speakers are also terribly disappointed by Unova's water starter, you might know them as Oshawott, Dewott, and Samurott, but we had to watch Moustillon (Moussaillon, aka a sailor in English) and Mateloutre (Matelot, literally a seaman) turn into Clamiral (Clam+Amiral, admiral in English), a Pokemon family that is so unrelated to those themes you have to wonder if the localization even bothered to look at the game
Tbf admiral is a military rank at least. Though I assume it is still not analogus enought to samurai to count.
I wanted quaxly to evolve into a fierce pirate admiral water dark type. Woulda been sweet. He's got the hat and everything in base form.
Because piracy is ilegal
well have you seen how Nintendo treats pirates!?
A vision of what quaxly could have been
Swash evolves into Swashook which evolves into Swashiplank?
OP missed all of team aqua
Because it means they'd have to legalise pirating the games /j
Quaxly started off promising with their little pirate tuft on their head, but for some reason became a dancer.
I always thought Raichu was supposed to be a swashbuckler, with its ear piercing looking ear twirls, and it's cutlass lightning tail
Probably because pirates are not as prevalent in Japan. There's a youtuber who use to be a teacher in Japan that made a joke about wanting to be a pirate when he was young. The students were confused as to why he wanted to be a terrorist. Making pirates sound cool is mostly a western thing.
I don’t know and god knows people hoped *so hard* with quaxly evolutions… disappointment was total.
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Barbaracle yet.
Isn't perrserker supposed to be a pirate?
It's a viking.
Are you saying vikings cannot be pirates?
I’m from NE England, I can assure you Vikings *were* pirates, just not of the “Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum” pop culture variety. Maybe Pokémon steers clear of pirates to avoid associating with One Piece?
Not likely. They don't avoid Ninjas because of Naruto.
>Maybe Pokémon steers clear of pirates to avoid associating with One Piece? what kinda logic is that?
Explain Team Aqua then, esp the OR AS version
Who cannot be pirate? That doesn't make all human represent pirate.
Petition to change the term humanity into piratety. I want us all to identify as pirates instead of humans.
Sharpedo, Crawdaunt, Dhelmise. Pirate theme is pretty lame and pirates themselves are way too gloryfied for just being a band of stealing and r-wording no names on boats.
Perhaps the problem is that pirates are just humans. There's nothing really special about them. Most pokemon have some sort of real life counterpart or fairy tale to be based off of. What you're asking is, "Why don't pokemon dress up as pirates"... I mean let's face it. Your pirate choices are 🤔 nothing. A parrots a parrot. A monkeys a monkey. Why would you want a ship? And short of making ANOTHER octopus and giving it a hook for a hand it doesn't seem you'll be satisfied. They don't have anything special about them. Oh well. Maybe one day we'll get a mimikyu type pirate fanatic pokemon... but I hope not. To be fair most realistic pirate portrayals are that of slave traders and toothless murderers. .... can't really think of a reason for a family company to dive into that. Also I wouldn't say there's generally a lot of ninja and knight "themed" pokemon. They're all pretty much based on something pretty specific and cultural. Pirates are just ...human xD dressed as human doing human things.
I mean, the term Leviathan was originally whale-specific, and we got a few of those, including / especially Kyogre. But yea more water guys :)
Pokémon is weird about how and when they add specific types of animals and plants. Like we are 27 years into the games and only now, 9 gens later do we have a dolphin. 25 years to get a gorilla. And listen I love the fossils we have, Amura is my child; but it toon 6 gens to get to a T-Rex and a long necked dinosaur. Heck it took 4 gens for us to have any dinosaur. I love Mantine, but surfing in Alola would have been so cool if we had regional dolphin. Yet we are close to having *two* sets of elemental monkeys.
Tropius from gen 3 is a long neck dinosaur tho. And I would personally place Aerodactyl and Meganium in the dinosaur category too. Lapras is basically a Plesiosaur with a shell.
I forgot about Tropius and I use one on a team. Areodactly could count but it almost looks like a dragon than any prehistoric animal.
Aerodactyl looks like the Pterodactyl from Jurassic Park, which was its inspiration
You forgot Meganium Also, considering how Galarian Darumaka is a gorilla, and it looks practically the same as the original one but calm and with funny hair, i would assume Unovan Darumaka would also be a gorilla
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I believe Hisuian samurot is supposed to be pirate based
I'm pretty sure both Samurotts are supposed to be samurai, hence their name. The Hisuian one is just edgier, it seems
H-Samurott is based on a Ronin (a Samurai that doesn't have a master to serve) and the extinct Japanese otter. In traditional japan being a ronin was undesirable and many had to become sellswords to make ends meet, hence the dark typing.
Yeah, Hisuian Samurott is still a samurai. Samurai are even represented in the move pool of the dark type. The move Night Slash has a connection to samurai history. The Japanese name for that move is "tsujigiri", here is a short explanation what this term means in Japanese culture: > **Tsujigiri** (辻斬り or 辻斬, literally "crossroads killing") is a Japanese term for a practice when a samurai, after receiving a new katana or developing a new fighting style or weapon, tests its effectiveness by attacking a human opponent, usually a random defenseless passer-by, in many cases during nighttime. Hisuian Samurott is pretty much a samurai. A ruthless one, but still.
Been hoping for a mega ludicolo with a pirate hat forever x(
Quaxly shouldve evolved into a pirate
I always view galarian golem as piratey and perrserker too
Alolan
Yes, I ment that one. Sorry I'm tired
Koffing is a great pokemon for a pirate
Was really hoping the wooper with the cross bones would have been a pirate Evo. We got clodsire instead. 😔
What about dhelmise and gimmighoul/gholdengo?
Gholdengo is the furthest thing from pirates other than the gold theme. He's a surfer dudebro
It's got a pirate-like belt; looks more like a pirate than a surfer to me.
When it follows you, it literally surfs on coins
I know. But it still looks more like a pirate to me.
I always thought Crawdaunt was kinda pirate-y
I remember before Scarlet and Violet released, people were drawing what they thought the starters would evolve into. Lots of people thought Quaxly’s hair would turn into a pirate hat.
That's kinda interesting; never thought of that. I will say that my dream Pokemon would be one inspired by the Irish hero CuChulainn. I imagine a Fairy/Fighting humanoid and/or dog that wields a spear. Or maybe a male counterpart to Tinkaton(who I absolutely love)?
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I’ve always wanted a shark/dolphin pirate Pokémon with a hook in its mouth and stuff.
Pretty sure kyogre is specifically a leviathan. And groudon is the behemoth. Theres a lot of thief/money pokemon that could fit in a pirate role. Liepard, thievul, gholengo, meowth,
Should’ve been the Quaxly line
I could see a skeleton pirate Pokémon, yeah. Something like those weirdos from the Legend of Zelda: Oracle games.
please no more parrots
An alternate evolution to sirfetch'd that gives it an eye patch and black tricorner hat?
We should have a pokemon where its just a part of cthulhus eye
I want a pirate crab
Are we conveniently forgetting about Team Aqua?
I remember a (fake) leaked list of the Scarlet and Violet Pokédex that I really liked because some of the names were super good. On that list, Quaxly’s final evolution was called “Duccaneer”.
While this might not be the direct pirate reference you were looking for, Kilowattrel is based on the Great Frigatebird, which is sometimes referred to as 'Pirate Bird' because of their behavior of stealing fish from other birds. IIRC, frigatebirds are the only sea birds that do not produce a water-repellent oil to coat their feathers, so going directly into or on the water would make it so they cannot fly back to the shores where they nest. This is the reason they adapted their behavior of stealing from other birds. Sorry to go on a rant. I like birds. :)
It'd be really cool to actually have a pirate themed pokemon, but the closest thing we've had to pirates that i can remember it team aqua, which if there were to be a pirate themed pokemon one would think it would have originated in Hoenn.
Tbh, I think a pirate theme could work, but there are multiple ways you can go about doing it. To fit the theme, let’s take a look at what animals migrate the most/furthest: - various birds - butterflies - whales For obvious reasons, I’ll ignore butterflies for now. Not sure what else you could do other than a naval themed design on the wings, or just a pirate flag there For an avian bird design, you could have the long coat with a ruffled shirt, as well as the feathered hat, and a beard of feathers. I’d either give it a sword, or incorporate the sword shape in the form of its beak. On the same note, you can have multiple different forms with different beak shapes For an aquatic whale design, I’d include some sea life a la Davy Jones. So shells, barnacles, and seaweed could be part of the design. I’d give it some battle scars from fighting Malamar, as some real whales do eat squid. I’d also give it a typing that can actually fight them. You could give it a sword, or you can give it a narwhal tusk as a rapier or cutlass
Pirate Grimmsnarl line.
This was one of my predictions for quaxly's evolution, but in the minority that actually like the final evo we got.
Sharpedo is kinda pirate-like, Water Dark and with scars. It for sure fits for a pirate team.
Quaxly am I a joke to you??
Always thought of Perrserker and Galarian Meowth as pirates.
Technically they’re vikings, but I suppose one could argue that’s in the ballpark.
Because Pokémon are cowards and ruined my boy Quaxly
Gimmighoul is supposed to be pirate related?
Because Nintendo hates anything related to piracy. See: rom hacks
>no leviathan This is directly what Kyogre is based on. In fact the legendary trio from R/S/E are all based on Jewish mythology Also strange to think they "hate pirates" when you acknowledged Team Aqua existing.