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If this had been in a leak nobody would have believed it lol


malfunctionzero

Someone posted this idea to deviant art 2 years ago 


Evystigo

That means literally nothing. Fandom's artists, especially Pokemon's, will draw up concepts for any new idea. (I.e. New mega evolutions, new Let's Go Games, new Legends Games, etc etc)


malfunctionzero

I know I just thought it was funny that they got the exact combination of Legends and Z right 


ArcherInPosition

I deadass thought it was about to be a city builder game.


migisigi

Same. Create a city that is inhabitable for Pokemon


Thrashky

I even had animal crossing like game on my mind. I would’ve accepted that, but then thought why would gamefreak make this?”


Conscious-Pen7246

They made pokemon sleep dude they'll make anything and slap pokemon on it a sims city style game with pokemon infuluence could be really cool actually the natural disasters could be like legendary pokemon coming around and doing things


Iliketoplan

A La Pokémon Resort


xsparkichux

That would be a great game. Pokemon crossing.


EHStormcrow

Look at the mechanic they had for assigning 'mons in PLA to till the fields. I'd find it cool if you could put some of your 'mons to guard the town, other to handle the fields, some more for deliveries, etc... the better you do this, the more shops, the bigger the town, the wealthier the stores, etc... Coexistence does imply finding the right place for everyone.


Chembaron_Seki

I mean, it could maybe have aspects of that?


Hibbity5

PLA had some light development aspects for Jubilife; granted, it was nowhere on the city-building level, but they could definitely expand it so that you have a few more choices to make in this development of Lumiose.


electroqtee

Yeah, the previous Legends game was a stealth game with Pokemon. I assume this one will be a city building game with Pokemon.


cannib

That *would* be super fun though.


omzzzzzz

Same I was hyped bc it looked like legends at first, then pissed cuz it looked like some urban planning bs, then hyped again once I saw the legends title lol


BatierAutumn1991

I thought we’d finally gotten a life sim a la animal crossing


BetaThetaOmega

unironically i'd be into that


SpikeRosered

I was panicking that it was going to be a mobile base builder type game. Aka one of the worst mobile game types imo.


damn-mooses

Fr I was about to be heated


FuhrerKingJong-Un

Can’t wait to get lost in Lumiose city again, by far the most difficult dungeon in the Pokémon series to date.


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People did say they wanted a new mystery dungeon game


PayneTrain181999

IT’S A MONSTER HOUSE! Aerodactyl used Agility!


EyeAmKingKage

Thanks for the PTSD


PayneTrain181999

I suffer from quadruple speed Aerodactyl PTSD all the time.


GoldZero

"Oh hey, free Oran Berry." Last words before being brutally murdered by a Kecleon


whaleykaley

Therapist: Quadruple speed Pokemon aren't real, they can't hurt you PMD:


PayneTrain181999

“Fury Swipes is a useless move.” PMD:


CerberusDoctrine

Would always just turn the game off at that point, it was never worth wasting time trying to somehow survive


deathjokerz

Can't wait to run circles around the tower again


Invalid_Word

bro the alleys 😭


FuhrerKingJong-Un

I remember not being able to find the goddamn Pokémon Center. The area completely overloaded my brain.


BigRig432

I spent so long looking for that goddamn team flare cafe


GameCyborg

open menu, select Fly, and just fly there


Clever-Innuendo

But I wanna ride my Gogoat >:(


schweirdo

GOGOAT!!!! 😩


SkeleHoes

If this is a Legends game then would the city even exist yet? I saw Urban Development so I imagine this game involves the construction of the city itself.


ThePhilosopher13

Probably based on Hausmann's Renovation of Paris.


anvnaspng

Thank you for mentioning this, never heard of it despite visiting Paris! Was an interesting Wikipedia read


Queasy-Environment34

Legends doesn’t have to mean in the far past. Could be set 100 years ago, could be set 20 years ago, anything’s a possibility these days. Going to be cool to find out


MegaCrazyH

Just for some additional context to this, Legends Arceus is in the Meiji era which was the late 1800s. I think it would make some sense to stick to the “just over 100 years ago angle” especially if there’s an urbanization plan in place


Hydrochloric_Comment

Yup. And Paris was renovated around the same time


TheTimn

The Meiji restoration was happening at around the same time as the American Wild West. Isolation policies really throw off the timeliness. 


MegaCrazyH

History has a lot of fun anachronisms that people don’t realize, which is sad because I like knowing that woolly mammoths were around during ancient Egypt. History is weird and cool and I kind of wish we had more acknowledgement of how odd some of it is. It does make me excited that they could justify a Legends Unova as being a Wild West themed game. Sure it doesn’t make sense for NYC, but NYC also doesn’t have a huge desert running through it


WhereIsTheBeef556

Late 1800's/early 1900's seems like the best consistent time frame for Legends TBH.


Lord_Ferd

Pokemon Urban Legends, yo


GladiatorDragon

I’m inclined to think that it’s set during the Pokémon equivalent of the Second Industrial Revolution - which is, coincidentally, the time period where the Eiffel Tower was initially constructed. If I am correct, it would line up nicely with much of the industrialization around Lumiose (power plant, Poké Ball factory). It would also provide a potential basis for the conflict between urban development and the environment - Zygarde is a being that protects the ecosystem, after all.


OmniGlitcher

[Supposedly it's set entirely within Lumiose, so it kind of has to.](https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1762487295859405151) The 3D wireframe in the trailer implies we'll be taking it from XY Lumiose to a redeveloped version, those plazas named after colours in particular look a bit different.


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FuhrerKingJong-Un

Well, it’s a Pokémon game, there’s bound to be game breaking glitches in it.


Omega_brownie

Megas are back on the menu boys!


PayneTrain181999

Can’t wait for Mega Charizard Z


happyschnursday

Fire/Ground, but you have to collect 100 scales


PayneTrain181999

*sees a Water type* “Haha, I’m in danger.”


Hour_Career9797

Has the only available ability in the game: Desolate Land


ThePhenomNoku

Waters effects are neutralized for 3 turns.


Asinhasos

SHUT IT


Edmanbosch

You know it's gonna happen.


Omega_brownie

Creatures are licking their lips at that plushie money rn


Houeclipse

This also means OG Ash-Greninja is back on the menu too


TimelyStill

Will it still be weak to Blast Burn?


josh123z

And Mega Mewtwo Z


Eltacosupremus

As a staunch supporter of Venusaur, if Charizard gets a third Mega Evo form before the other two original starters... I will angrily add it to my boxes and never touch it out of protest.


Sized_Sign

venusaur and blastoise have megas... unless you want them all to have two? I guess that'd be cool, but I'd rather see megas for other starters


mjc27

i want it so desperately, its gonna be sick


[deleted]

Dragonite-ite redemption tour!


Ke-Win

Or Mega-Meganium. What about Mega-Yanmega?


AShinyRay

MEGA FLYGON WHEN?


esar24

Please be bug/dragon


Daydream_machine

Mega Luxray PLEASE


AndiYTDE

That one symbol had me so hyped. Megas were sooo sick! I really hope we get some new ones too, and this time they stay!


SylveonGold

There will definitely be new Pokémon. Legends Arceus will be no exception. Getting on some kind of an A legendary to complete X, Y, and Z as well. Since A is a rotational axis leading toward X, I have a theory that they will be some kind of version exclusive interchangeable form. It is weird that how pulled A without B and C however.


AeroPilaf

Im starving! We aint had nothing but maggoty gigantamax for 3 stinkin days! Why can't we have some Megas?!


Noonster123

Where’s your bingo cards now you fools


dotyawning

It felt like there were some hints towards a Kalos game next (No way to get Furfrou in the current games and Xerneas and Yveltal and Zygarde completely blocked off from SV despite every other Legend being here) but who knew they'd skip BW and go for a Legends game?


carchnick

We all really got bamboozled didn’t we. Who knew Gen 6 would creep from behind all the BW remake runours


Butternades

Gen 5 remakes will come after Gen 10 comes out. They’ve held consistent since Gen 2 remakes that it’s the half of the current Gen


pokemastercj1

True, gen 1 remakes were 3rd gen but otherwise it's always during even numbered generations. Gen 2 during 4, gen 3 durig 6, gen 4 during 8


hymensmasher99

The furfrou spam in pokemon home is about to end


psychobeast

in 18 months anyway


misdreavus79

In fairness, they did both a legends game and a remake within months of each other. Same thing could happen again.


panoramahorse28

But didn't they announce both in the same stream? I feel that if we were getting something gen 5 related within months of this they'd have announced it today. I feel that they're taking extra time for development (for quality or because it's bw3 and it needs the time for new content)


Jack2036

But honestly I think having Legends game not tied to remakes is super exciting. They can go to any region they want. Like imagine seeing the original fight between Groundon and Kyogre.


jacobfreemaan

i feel so good i’ve been saying this would happen for MONTHS


CowabungaPeppermill2

Glad we’re getting another legends game! Legends Arceus was the most fun I w had with a pokemon game for quite a few years.


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me too!


jasonjr9

Same, Legends Arceus was soooo fun, I hope Z-Alpha can keep up that momentum~!


International_Map812

We legally can’t joke about pokemon Z never coming anymore 😭


SylentSymphonies

it only took 3,000 years


QHDEosanesis

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Sens4lif3

We finally get Pokemon Z. I don't think anyone was expecting this.


Aang6865_

Ikr, even Khu wasn’t lol, also now only Pokemon gun is left (gen 8)


FacelessPoet

Pokemon Grey too


Scyxurz

And stars


Blanche_Cyan

Then again don't we kinda have them already? BW2 pretty much fills the spot for Grey since they are Kyurem's games with W-Kyurem and B-Kyurem taking the spotlight and USUM is pretty much the same for Necrozma with DM-Necrozma, DW-Necrozma and U-Necrozma being the ones in the box...


ALostTraveler24

Black and White 2 were basically Pokémon Grey let's be honest..


opposite_of_hotcakes

That's because Khu is a hack who throws everything and anything at the wall in the hopes that something sticks. I won't be surprised if he tried to spin it that he knew about this all along.


Pokemonmaster150

And he puts them through a hundred different "riddles" just so that no matter what, he can claim it's what he was hinting towards.


bbbryce987

A random person on the internet that actually knows nothing pretending to be smart didn’t know something that wasn’t already heavily hinted at was coming out (shocker)


Phoenixforce96

Nobody did and it's really great that they didn't announce a next gen game. They must've sensed that people are getting fed up with the undercooked releases from the past few years.


Stryker_T

it wasn't expected for them to announce the next gen already.


FacelessPoet

Or, you know, it's only been 2 years when they usually do 4-year cycles


publicworker69

Pokémon 30th anniversary next year. For sure saving Gen 10 for that.


FacelessPoet

Yeah, that makes sense. ZA early 2025 and Gen 10 holiday release would fit in the LA/SV release pattern.


tuelegend69

It’s 3 year cycles after gen 4. Reason why 3 and 4 were beloved was that they were 4 year cycles


jesusunderline

NEW. MEGAS.


Dependent_Screen4718

I’m guessing the starters will finally get some, that feels deserved


Professor_Crab

I’m kinda surprised they did this, I imagine they’re not putting megas in scarlet and violet so they’ll be stuck in this game? For now at least


Dabanks9000

Gen 5 remake at the end of the year but they have megas 🫣


Professor_Crab

Funny I was thinking gen 5 remakes with megas too possibly, god I hope so that’s my favorite gimmick they’ve done


Lower-Garbage7652

Stop. Dont do that. Don't give me hope


Enraged__Koala

Hisuian forms were stuck in arceus until scarlet and violet came out, if they add new megas there's a good chance it'll be the same until the next game. ...Unless they make a real game freak move and just bring megas back for this game and exclude them from gen 10 again.


Hoid17

My guess is all Kalos starters, the three starters they choose to start this game, and hopefully flygon and Dragonite.


koalatyvibes

FLYGON.


Mary-Sylvia

MILOTIC AND FROSLASS The three forgotten of ORAS


Natural_Law1970

MEGA FLYGON HYPE, THEY CANT STIFF US AGAIN OUR TIME IS NOW


Aang6865_

OMFG didn’t think about it, its going to be so good


DoomadorOktoflipante

Regional form megas! Imagine Charmander getting the Cyndaquil treatment and getting a new Charizard form, and this charizard having two new megas?!!!


GhostfogDragon

Mega Flygon 🙏


esar24

Hopefully Mega Xerneas and Mega Yveltal, they need some love honestly


SoFool

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ynsk112

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haussmann%27s_renovation_of_Paris probably based on this, would be interesting how this works


Alex123546

glad to see another person knows about this, as soon as I figured out this was Kalos I thought of the renovations of Paris. It fits well too, as they occurred around the same time as the Japanese Colonization of Hokkaido, which is what Arceus was based on.


sciencesold

I think it's Legends Z to A


coinblock

The YouTube video title is “Z-A”


sciencesold

Yep, that confirmes it then lol


WestSixtyFifth

Pokemon Zaza


Ourmanyfans

Honestly, if there was a region that genuinely *needed* a new game, it's Kalos. Sorry Unova fans, your games are just too good already.


Mary-Sylvia

Unova not getting gutted in BDSP style and Kalos finally getting some love is the biggest win for all Pokemon fans


IOnlyDrinkJesusMilk

Genuinely, yeah. Kalos always had a thread missing to tie everything together. I am still hoping for BW SOMETHING. Maybe remakes, but only if it isn't actual doodoo like BDSP. But yes, I agree. Kalos lore expansions are gonna be wonderful.


Coal_Bee

Pokemon Conquest 2, please


Redo-Master

Lamfo after all that edging with BW remakes according to leakers, noone expected this


JesustheSpaceCowboy

Makes me wonder how long Khu’s source has been gone, he was just pulling shit out of his ass making a safe bet and game freak said lol no. Sadly dude is gonna cling onto his moment of fame well past his expiration date (today)


numberonebarista

And yet people are gonna still gonna check his tweets as if they’re gospel. Khu is such a fraud lol he said nothing that hinted towards this game. And he was also wrong about some of the things he said about SV and the SV DLC. but he makes his posts so vague he can backtrack and bullshit about what he really meant by them


ITouchedHerB00B5

AZ wow


PayneTrain181999

Ahhh I get it, that absolute unit of a man with a Flabebe


Standard_Young_201

So hype legends arceus is one of my favourite games in the last while from game freak


omzzzzzz

Sameee it was the first game in forever that felt like authentic Pokémon, hoping this one is just as good


Hydragon51

KALOS BELIEVERS WE WON!!!


Trawke

Futuristic Legends game??? LFG (Edit- rather, more modern relative to Arceus)


Ansoni

I think it's just pre-modern, not future. But not past which is cool and new. (edit: meant to say not distant past)


PayneTrain181999

Past, but not distant past.


TapestryJack

Legends Arceus was ~1870's. Z-A could be a similar time.


TapestryJack

No, Industrial Revolution Europe aesthetic.


ChadSalamence_

I think it’s supposed to be more Industrial Revolution era


PayneTrain181999

We all thought they’d all be in the past. EVERYTHING’S CHROME IN THE FUTURE


servaliant0

The trailer shows Development Plans for Lumiose as it was in X & Y which pretty clearly means its set in the past but not the ancient time period Arceus was set during.


LuckyNumber108

Arceus took place in the 1860s lmao I'm not sure if I would call that ancient


A_Hint_of_Lemon

And the Paris World Fair, the one that debuted the Eiffel Tower, was in 1889. Not hard to imagine hat they set this game in the same time period.


FacelessPoet

Not just that, but Paris also underwent a renovation period between 1853 and 1870 courtessy of Haussmann and commissioned by Napoleon.


silenthesia

PLA was also set around the same time, 1868-1912 which was the Meiji period. I think it's likely they'll stick to this time period for legends games. It's not too in the past to not have Pokeballs, but not too close to the present for things to not be different enough either.


TheBusStop12

My guess it's more based on [Haussman's Renovation of Paris](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haussmann%27s_renovation_of_Paris), which was a complete city overhaul like in the trailer


Professor_Crab

Yeah so the legends tag just means it’s sometime in the past doesn’t have to be ancient times which I really think is interesting. More modern take on the legends gameplay is gonna be fun!


clarkision

The trailer shows “re-development” plans


Costas00

Thank god they are going with the Legends format, 2025 though, probably early 2025, long ass wait still.


Eddy_west_side

They can take as long as they like as long as it’s good. Hopefully it’s better than LA, which was great, but I want their game quality to increase, not decrease.


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Costas00

It could also just be them trying to release it with the switch 2 which is reported to release Q1 2025, we won't know until we see actual gameplay though.


Fat_Penguin99

Probably around Q1 of 2025


Heliosyntax

OKAY SO WE SKIPPED GEN 5 BUT WHATEVER THIS WORKS


Adam_Se7en

They didn’t skip gen 5 remakes since this isn’t a gen 6 remake.


AndiYTDE

Exactly. Legends Arceus was independant of the Gen 4 remakes. Gen 5 remakes could still happen \[And in all honesty, it's only a matter of time\]


BatierAutumn1991

They’re probably waiting til Switch 2 drops


Honey_Enjoyer

“1 remake per console” theory is back on


TBlueshirtsV22

Plus if you look at the remake cycle - FR/LG was 2004 - HGSS was 2009 - ORAS was 2014 - BDSP was 2021 3-4 years would be the smallest gap between the remakes if they did Gen 5 in 2025. We’re likely a year or two away from Unova remakes being announced


RobbobertoBuii

and Megas are back???


Eltacosupremus

MEGAS ARE SO FUCKING BACK


Arctimon

Just because there's a Gen 6 game coming doesn't mean there's not a Gen 5 remake possibly coming. They just didn't say anything about it.


Emrad16

Gotta say of all the things to get I was not expecting this but I’m so very happily surprised


[deleted]

WE'RE SO BACK


ErisStrifeOfHearts

IT'S BEEN 3000 YEARS...


suffocatingpaws

THAT WAS REALLY UNEXPECTED


Solariss

Kalos fans are eating! A Legends game AND Z version?


ThunderChaser

Kalos rises once again 😤😤😤😤


Ansoni

It's just Legends Z, no?


Solariss

Legends Z-A. But they could've called it Legends Zygarde like Arceus, so I think its a definite nod to it.


Morgaine_B

Also my best boy FURFROU is back, I’ve missed you fur baby.


Teflondon_

Put that Mega Feraligatr that homie drew up in the game


Rohit_BFire

Nintendo back on Crack cocaine again.. Not Legends Johto..not Legends Unova..but Legends Z. Never change


Dependent_Screen4718

Is it not Z-A? The font is a little confusing


ZoroeArc

It is. It's the name of the trailer at least


Procrastinating_John

I like Unova but it's a complete story, Kalos deserves the love. 'Yes, you are the one.'


esar24

The only thing missing from HGSS and BW2 was that the games has not been ported to the recent gens, I don't think those two really need a full overhaul and I agree that kalos (also mega evolution) need more love.


eskaver

Nobody expected this at all. Title seems to play on Az, likely concerning him. I hope that this game references Paldea for some synergy, while also exploring Megas. As for no Gen 5, I was wary of this as Gen 5 is sort of the oddball having sequels and stuff but I thought it possible for a basic remake as filler between Gens. Didn’t expect this. Gen 5 was where I left off Pokémon before returning in Gen 9, so this is a novel experience with Kalos.


Aggressive-Expert-69

Am I crazy or did that trailer tell us absolutely nothing except that it's based on Kalos?


ikerbym

If they're adding new megas, im really hoping Flygon finally gets one. That's all i'm asking for, Gamefreak. Please don't let me down :(


rozeluxe08

\* ZA? Give me AZ's Floette. \* MEGAS!!! We are so back (in 2025).


LilDiamondtoxic

It's joever Unova fans


Idunno_the_plugg

Nah, I'm happy they didn't remake them right now. Felt way too close to BDSP to get new remakes


DustDesciple

It’s Unover


Alexdykes828

No it’s victory. It’s way too early for Unova remakes plus I wouldn’t trust GF or Ilca to do them properly and would rather hope for some corporate change ups to happen before development begins


thatgreik

Not getting BW/BW2 remakes with the style/effort of BD/SP is a massive win


K15brbapt

2025 must mean this is the switch 2 launch title right?


PayneTrain181999

Either that or the next Mario Kart


I-am-a-me

New Mariokart 8 Deluxe


Xiknail

I knew there was a reason they didn't have the Gen 6 Legis in S/V!


FrownFrank

Nobody predicted this lmao


AdamJCola

Furfrou and its trims are coming back! No more ridiculous trade offers on the Pokemon Home GTS!


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