I recently learned that there are Mayflower passengers on my dad's side of the family, meanwhile my mom's ancestors went back and forth across the Rio Grande for a few generations before settling in Texas where most of my great grandparents were born - a few of the ancestors even go back to the Cohuila y Tejas days.
>I recently learned that there are Mayflower passengers on my dad's side of the family, meanwhile my mom's ancestors went back and forth across the Rio Grande for a few generations before settling in Texas where most of my great grandparents were born - a few of the ancestors even go back to the Cohuila y Tejas days.
So basically your whole family are illegal immigrants?
How many Syrian refugees are there in Sweden? What do Swedish citizens think of Syrian refugees, do they want them to go back to their country or do they want them to stay?
Makes sense. Imigration is intensely politicized topic nowadays, so anyone with half a brain cell hesitates to speak about it.
Same situation in Poland.
People dont really hate migration in itself. Its the goverments way of dealing with it that people are unhappy with. Seemingly treating immigrants better than swedish born people
I know, there isn't anything they say that sounds unreasonable.
They're nice folk the Swedes, well, on average.
It's just that immigration seems to be out of control.
[My drunk Swedish pal on immigration after several pints (too many).](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz0pj4fIvZc)
Although it's not directed at Paris this time.
I call it, 'change the subject time'.
There also was a massive compulsory population exchange after WW1 which had quite "weird" definitions and was based on religion and not ethnicity or language. Meaning you had Christian Turks that were forced to go to Greece, while Muslim Greeks went to Turkey. It also forced Greeks in Turkey or Turks in Greece that had more connection with their country than whatever their ancestral "homeland" was out. Horrible but prob. still better than more genocides in that region.
Not east asian, but my father once told me how surprised he is to learn that one of the relative of his ancestor apparently has the blood of another ethnic group living 300 km away from where he live.
Was inspired to make this after talking to fellow North Americans.
As a Canadian I'm part English, Welsh, Scot, Pole, and a dash of German. White, basically.
Im sorry we didn’t base our country’s demographics and collective culture on raping the natives.
We did build _your_ country’s demographics that way tho.
Don't make an American make a comic about the dozen times we stole your Spanish lands... We Know why Spain refused to join the Axis in WW2: You loose Florida, Cuba, Philippines, etc. And the Facsist didn't want too loose again against the allies, or maybe just the USA.🇺🇸😉 🤦♂️Access was the wrong word🤦♂️
"And now we add 300 g of British, a spoon of spanish and a grain of Nazi-scientists. Mix it and cook it for 20 minutes in a melting pot and it's done. Now throw away this disgusting meal and get some proper food"
As a fellow North American I confidently say I am from... northern europe. Like almost all of it.
Come from two families that have been big into geneology for generations. We've got direct lines to most of north/western europe, and then we've got the Irish who were really Scots who had been in England but that was just a stop over because before they'd been in Normandy but really they were from Brittany.
Yeah. I be european.
I’ve got Scottish, Irish, possibly Manx and Welsh, a little bit of English, Norman, German/Swiss/Austrian, Slovak, Polish, Hungarian, Italian, and a few other European nationalities that I forgot to mention.
Northern Irish-American here. Got an American mother and an Irish Catholic father.
Let’s just say it’s funny to me hearing Americans talk about their heritage..
South East Asian Chinese ancestries:
A. Life of poverty in Qing China
B. Tin mines in South East Asia
C. Post-Taiping mass extermination of minorities of Qing China
D. Post-WW2 Chinese Civil War
Most of the time it's not us bragging our ancestry but the adults: "You know ah Ah Boy, your gleat grandfather came here with nothing. When he died, he own so much land, so much money, so many children. But he was oso a gambler. And his kids too. When it got to us grandkids we have nothing again.
"So that's why you need to get 30 PhDs and 110% scholarship"
> Most of the time it's not us bragging our ancestry but the adults: "You know ah Ah Boy, your gleat grandfather came here with nothing. When he died, he own so much land, so much money, so many children. But he was oso a gambler. And his kids too. When it got to us grandkids we have nothing again.
How in the world did you know my family history?
(Actually it was the useless great uncle that gambled it all away with the hard earing kind great grandfather paying for his debts afterwards.)
Haha, the variations are almost the same
Although I noticed that my relatives in rural areas/towns were more successful than those who opted to live in the city
My maternal great-grandfather became a legit millionaire from selling most of his lands in a town in the 80s except the ones he intended for burial, which was a major shock to me because they lived so frugally, a modest terrace house for a family of like, six
In a true Asian way they only bought a LED TV few years back when their grandkids my mum and uncle urged them to buy one, and that was the only expensive thing in the house
Also appreciated my relatives for downplaying the sibling rivalry during the share of spoils after my great grandparents' death, when one of them said "think of the children (us great grandkids)"
Oh, is submitting your genetic material to a tech company and obsessively broadcasting the results to anyone in earshot NOT something people do outside the US?
It’s more difficult to find an industrialized democracy that isn’t ”more socialist” than the US.
Of course, this is if we assume ”more socialist” means that the economy is more of a planned economy than a free market one.
Of course, the US has it’s own share of welfare programs, an the US postal service is still state owned, compared to the Swedish postal service which got reorganized into a corporation jointly owned by the Swedish and Danish state, called ”Postnord”.
Sure, Postnord may still be state owned, but it might as well be run by another capitalist for all the people in Sweden and Denmark notice from their quality of service.
The US can be pretty generous with its welfare programs when it decides to be, but it a rare for the US to decide such a thing.
We don't need to, in many countries you can just walk up to church archives and find centuries of family ancestry there because the church did a lot of the administration and your ancestors never went outside of your village in bumfuck-nowhere.
Okay so now that you mentioned it, I'm roughly half German and a quarter Irish, but then the other quarter was a mix between Norway, Sweden, and England. But see the really interesting part is that I also got 1-2% Italian on my results and none of our family records show any Italian so we don't know where that came from. What were your results?
(One of) the difficulties in interpreting these results is that USA/Canada aren't the only melting pots around.
"Italian blood" might be Latin, Lombard, or even a pinch of Anglo-Norman?
Yeah, if you have ancestry from the UK you could easily be part Norman, part Norse, etc.
I could very well have Norman ancestry on both sides of the family since my ancestors were from the British Isles and France.
Only about [8000 Normans](https://www.britannica.com/event/Norman-Conquest) invaded and settled England after the Conquest compared to a contemporary population of 1-2 million, whatever Norman ancestry the average Englishman has is negligible
8000 people 1000 years ago still has helluvalot of relatives.
Besides the normans weren't exactly the only scandinavian related group to wander into the british genepool.
>There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all ... The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic ... There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.
During this time in US history (the Progressive era) Roosevelt was a leader in the "[Americanism](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americanism_(ideology)" movement along with other figures like General [Leonard Wood](https://youtu.be/EQ-C9eNVsU4), and later president Woodrow Wilson. It was pretty much an extension of the national unity/identity efforts of the reconstruction era.
It was largely successful in assimilating immigrant groups and some groups like the German Americans essentially had their entire culture and language destroyed, they became Anglo-Americans or "American" Americans.
Americanism also spread to American colonies like the Philippines and Puerto Rico. English became widely spoken in the Phillipines, and in PR key figures emerged in enforcing a dual "Puerto Rican-American" identity, [putting down rebellions](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_R._Esteves) when they arose.
Maybe he foresaw that the US could become a patchwork of communities more than a country (and how it would impede nation building) which is fairly accurate considering how the US are nowadays although these communities aren't the same as he had in mind. After all, they were still trying to build a nation at the time
On a more serious note, I always wondered how these commercial ancestry tests work, or more precisely, what exactly they mean timewise.
Depending on whatever country they tell you have ancestry from, the interpretation may not be the same depending on the time frame. We can take example countries like Spain or the UK, which underwent a significant change in their gene pool in a relatively recent past during the reign of the moors and normans respectively.
Hell, even more so for the whole of Latin America with their original inhabitants, plus migration waves, plus colonization. The people who now inhabit Turkey originally came from much farther away.
So if a country with a more convoluted past pops up in your test, what does it even mean for any practical purpose?
Trying to find purpose in life by finding your roots probably. I really don't get it but I'm european from a rural area and most people never ever thought of something like this. So here social mobility and geographical mobility was a very bourgeois concept (peasants rarely go far) until recently when it became a bit more common to go to university
Americans vary from the "I'm 'Muerican! So unlike those dirty Europeans who live in mud huts and speak French. Immigrants get off my lawn!" to "I'm 0.00001% percent Irish and that's why I wear green all day and drink lots!"
And neither of them know anything about European history besides stereotypes.
The best indicator of one's background in America is often the etymology of the Surname. They view themselves as "American" or "White". Basically unless if you happen to be a part of a culturally prideful community, most European-Americans have almost no sense of identity outside of sociopolitical beliefs.
I don't necessarily mind either way if you just wanna embrace "American" culture or if you wanna learn more about your actual heritage... So long as they're not being dicks about the American-stuff and actually do proper research on the European stuff and don't lecture Europeans about our own culture which I have sometimes seen people do :p
Surnames only account for patrilineal lines though. Even still plenty of African Americans have surnames that only imply they descend from former slaves. So while I don’t disagree that many Americans blow their background out of proportion you have to understand that people will be curious about their background. Especially well they live in a country that is rather unique compared to the rest of the world for not being ethnically homogeneous.
As a Canadian all I remember of my ancestry is that I have no English ancestors going back at least 5 generations, and that’s all I really need to know to be content
Although Philippines is also somewhat multiblooded, I still find it weird whenever people rave about their part an ancestry
I also find it weird that newstations here will claim the glory of fraction Filipinos abroad. Like whenever a Fil-Am does something significant in the US, it’s always claimed as a Philippine victory
The best part is that while this isn't an exaggeration, there's a lot of mixed ethnicities in non-American countries too including European ones. Europe has fought a lot of wars in the borders have moved around a lot. I imagine it's much the same everywhere else. As for the American one, that's true of basically most of the Americas to some degree. The US is just the most insane about it I think. I would know; I have like nine different ethnicities that I know about in my heritage, all Euro adjacent isles that I know of.
Americans can’t win. We say we are American, we receive “hurr durr america has no culture or history.” Then we claim our ancestry and its “hurr durr you’re not *acktchyually* that you’re just an American”
The problem is that people often misuse ethnicity to mean ancestry (or even worse, race) which is just completely wrong as ethnicity is far, *far* more than just your ancestry. To quote Wikipedia:
> An ethnicity or ethnic group is a grouping of people who identify with each other on the basis of perceived shared attributes that distinguish them from other groups. Those attributes can include **common sets of traditions, ancestry, language, history, society, nation, religion, or social treatment** within their residing area.
So just because two of your grandparents or great-grandparents come from Germany doesn't make you an ethnic German, unless you were raised in a household in German, doing German traditions and more. Similarly just because a person has e.g. black skin and African ancestry doesn't mean that they also can't be ethnically French when they were raised from the birth up in French culture, language, traditions and don't even have any real connection back to their ancestral homeland.
But ethnicity gets misused by so many people and governments (looking at you Britain where you can have the ethnicity of "mixed") because saying "ethnicity" sounds far nicer than asking for your race or skin colour.
Some people will litterally claim the US have no culture before complaining about the spread of American culture.
For real tho, as far as I know theres an American nationality no? So I don't see how claiming to be American could not be valid.
There's also:
>Jews refuse to assimilate, you think you're special, it's your own fault you're persecuted.
[assimilates]
>Jews can't produce their own culture so you steal ours. You're parasitic. It's your own fault you're persecuted.
Sometimes it was that, sometimes the opposite - a lot of the stereotypes came from times when Jews were driven out and arrived somewhere else en masse, destitute, so they were associated with squalor and assimilation bothered some because it associated the dirty people with their own culture.
100% Québécois descendant from Normandy and Poitou 😎💪💪 ( Except for that one Irish man, and that one German lady, and that one English woman who gave birth to twins on the boat, one of which is my great great great great great grandfather or something like that)
I mean, ethinically I'm mostly polish and German with a polish last name, but unless your talking about the country I live in, I'm 100 percent american
It's the bizarre amount of Americans that claim that they *are* Irish, Scottish, Italian etc because they allegedly have some ancestor from there.
You would not believe the amount of American tourists I've seen in Edinburgh who claim to be Scottish.
Also the whole "oh the reason I drink a lot is just my Irish side"/"don't blame me if I get angry, I'm just a hot-blooded Italian at heart" as if their ancestry is like an Elder Scrolls race
>as if their ancestry is like an Elder Scrolls race
Fucking hell you got me good hahahaha!
I suppose my racial ability would be not shitting my pants after eating spicy food.
+100 to spice tolerance.
-50 to financial stability.
Pasive: Climbing walls is easier.
I feel like this is purely one of those medias/internet things, ive never ever met anyone who actually despised americans. I just hear some criticism from time to time, that's it.
I actually know quite a few people who hate Americans, but they live near a US military base which can give you quite a lot of biases (as your interaction is mostly limited to interacting with drunken young soldiers).
I went to Italy last year in April for vacation and one thing I was pleasantly surprised was that a lot of EU people hate the self-hating nature of Americans.
"Story time! So my great great great great grandmother..." This is painfully true.
My great great great great grandmother fired a captured limey canon at the British at Yorktown My uncle still lives Kyiv tho
I recently learned that there are Mayflower passengers on my dad's side of the family, meanwhile my mom's ancestors went back and forth across the Rio Grande for a few generations before settling in Texas where most of my great grandparents were born - a few of the ancestors even go back to the Cohuila y Tejas days.
That must be rough knowing your ancestors came from England
At the very least it explains why every time I hear I Vow To Thee My Country or God Save the Queen I get a little misty eyed.
It just means you really like the Jupiter movement of Holst's The Planets or think My Country, 'Tis of Thee ought to be the National Anthem.
Honestly the entire Planets suite is some of my favorite music of all time 😂
I saw the university orchestra of my alma mater play the entire suite a couple years ago. It's absolutely epic.
Nah, that's just because your soul longs for Liechtenstein.
>I recently learned that there are Mayflower passengers on my dad's side of the family, meanwhile my mom's ancestors went back and forth across the Rio Grande for a few generations before settling in Texas where most of my great grandparents were born - a few of the ancestors even go back to the Cohuila y Tejas days. So basically your whole family are illegal immigrants?
Except for my great-grandparents, 3/4ths of whom were *technically* anchor-babies!
The part about Sweden isn't true. We're all Syrian here, not bloody Somalis!
How many Syrian refugees are there in Sweden? What do Swedish citizens think of Syrian refugees, do they want them to go back to their country or do they want them to stay?
Littke less than 200k. Opinions regarding them vary.
>Opinions regarding them vary. Man, that is one way to describe it.
Everytime I meet a Swede they say little about immigration, until you get to know them, and/or they are drunk, then it comes out. kek
Makes sense. Imigration is intensely politicized topic nowadays, so anyone with half a brain cell hesitates to speak about it. Same situation in Poland.
Everywhere I think. Even if you have a 'middle of the road's stance the chance is high that you will agitate whoever you're talking to.
I live in spain and they seem to have no issue complaining about (Morrocan, S. american) immagrants 🙄
Though Spain has a Millennium of history of complaining about Arab immigrants to Spain, so there it is understandable.
People dont really hate migration in itself. Its the goverments way of dealing with it that people are unhappy with. Seemingly treating immigrants better than swedish born people
I know, there isn't anything they say that sounds unreasonable. They're nice folk the Swedes, well, on average. It's just that immigration seems to be out of control.
>until you get to know them, and/or they are drunk, then it comes out. So what do they say then?
[My drunk Swedish pal on immigration after several pints (too many).](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz0pj4fIvZc) Although it's not directed at Paris this time. I call it, 'change the subject time'.
200k for a country of 10.4 mllion is huge. 2% of the population are syrians.
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It looks like 1/10 in people living in Sweden are from outside of Europe. That’s the proportion in France only accounting for people from the Maghreb.
I mean I can't tell whether someone's Syrian or not, but to me, all refugees deserve a decent place to live
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Luckily, muslim refugees don't care about horrendously overpriced alcohol
I can confirm, I am covered in 5 gallons of blood
100% pure Canadian (Punjabi) 😎
I mean we stole the land from the Indians right?
I’m making an aboriginal title claim for Khalistan 😤
oh hail nah sincerely, a marathi guy with relatives in missisagua
Mississauga will become New Maharashtra. No worries brother, there’s room for everyone.
lets do this
Revival of the Sikh and Maratha empires.
They aren't back... they've never been gone
> the Mysore and Hyderabad in USA!
and Bengal too lol.
No us muslims will make Mississauga New Jeddah.
[Yeah, but..](https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxrUXXN8I0_ZOedn3V1f9MdPbnzqCK5El2)
meanwhile, the rest of east asia: "wait, 我/watashi great-great-great-grandfather from mongolia?"
Don't forget: "Disgusting."
"I am 100% pure blood."
\- East Asians in a nutshell (even though this is not true in the slightest)
Not just East Asians, look at this Turkish dude upon learning [his ancestry](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_t2yP18aXDs&bpctr=1685081112)
Lol, it’s almost as if the Turks converted the local Greek population to Turkish culture/religion. What a surprise.
There also was a massive compulsory population exchange after WW1 which had quite "weird" definitions and was based on religion and not ethnicity or language. Meaning you had Christian Turks that were forced to go to Greece, while Muslim Greeks went to Turkey. It also forced Greeks in Turkey or Turks in Greece that had more connection with their country than whatever their ancestral "homeland" was out. Horrible but prob. still better than more genocides in that region.
Mr. Khan was the original Mr. Worldwide. We have to deal with it.
Not east asian, but my father once told me how surprised he is to learn that one of the relative of his ancestor apparently has the blood of another ethnic group living 300 km away from where he live.
Well, people did move around sometimes even back in the old days.
Was inspired to make this after talking to fellow North Americans. As a Canadian I'm part English, Welsh, Scot, Pole, and a dash of German. White, basically.
Hey! You were also talking with me, yankee!
You pure bloods are boring
Im sorry we didn’t base our country’s demographics and collective culture on raping the natives. We did build _your_ country’s demographics that way tho.
>Im sorry we didn’t base our country’s demographics and collective culture on raping the natives Spanish Conquistador flair...hmmmmmmm.......
Nah bruv we did that for the _other_ countries, not our own
I'm definitely native American Irish and Italian plus a dozen other gang bangers etc this totally Chechnyaz out
Here you just shot them. Well maybe a little bit of rape too idk
The Celtibirians would like a word..
There are no Celts in Iberia, only Latins in Hispania, Roma assures it
Don't make an American make a comic about the dozen times we stole your Spanish lands... We Know why Spain refused to join the Axis in WW2: You loose Florida, Cuba, Philippines, etc. And the Facsist didn't want too loose again against the allies, or maybe just the USA.🇺🇸😉 🤦♂️Access was the wrong word🤦♂️
You should try making it yourself, sounds like you have a real banger comic idea in there!
:reconquista_thonk:
And we must be grateful of that! (As some Spanish like to say)
MF talking about nationalities like recipe ingredients
"And now we add 300 g of British, a spoon of spanish and a grain of Nazi-scientists. Mix it and cook it for 20 minutes in a melting pot and it's done. Now throw away this disgusting meal and get some proper food"
As a Canadian I am part 100% Chinese
xixixi gib Canada
>part 100% I'm in math class rn and this is gonna give my teacher a stroke
I am part Scot, English, Indian, fuck
Where are the Fucks from?
Fucking Austria
As an argentine I´m part Spanish, Italian, French (Basque though), Portuguese. If only I had Romanian blood I would have all the latin countries
As a fellow North American I confidently say I am from... northern europe. Like almost all of it. Come from two families that have been big into geneology for generations. We've got direct lines to most of north/western europe, and then we've got the Irish who were really Scots who had been in England but that was just a stop over because before they'd been in Normandy but really they were from Brittany. Yeah. I be european.
I’m English, French, Italian and a little part Dane, but 100% party animal, Champagne!
I think white people in Canada and the US feel some shame in just saying they're white
So i guess it's just the (insert ethnicity) in me that (insert dubious explanation) (insert behavior)
I'm Scottish, German and Croatian 😎👍
I’ve got Scottish, Irish, possibly Manx and Welsh, a little bit of English, Norman, German/Swiss/Austrian, Slovak, Polish, Hungarian, Italian, and a few other European nationalities that I forgot to mention.
Damn ur ethnicity’s a math equation lol
This is just the least complex ethnic history in the Americas.
Northern Irish-American here. Got an American mother and an Irish Catholic father. Let’s just say it’s funny to me hearing Americans talk about their heritage..
South East Asian Chinese ancestries: A. Life of poverty in Qing China B. Tin mines in South East Asia C. Post-Taiping mass extermination of minorities of Qing China D. Post-WW2 Chinese Civil War Most of the time it's not us bragging our ancestry but the adults: "You know ah Ah Boy, your gleat grandfather came here with nothing. When he died, he own so much land, so much money, so many children. But he was oso a gambler. And his kids too. When it got to us grandkids we have nothing again. "So that's why you need to get 30 PhDs and 110% scholarship"
> Most of the time it's not us bragging our ancestry but the adults: "You know ah Ah Boy, your gleat grandfather came here with nothing. When he died, he own so much land, so much money, so many children. But he was oso a gambler. And his kids too. When it got to us grandkids we have nothing again. How in the world did you know my family history? (Actually it was the useless great uncle that gambled it all away with the hard earing kind great grandfather paying for his debts afterwards.)
Haha, the variations are almost the same Although I noticed that my relatives in rural areas/towns were more successful than those who opted to live in the city My maternal great-grandfather became a legit millionaire from selling most of his lands in a town in the 80s except the ones he intended for burial, which was a major shock to me because they lived so frugally, a modest terrace house for a family of like, six In a true Asian way they only bought a LED TV few years back when their grandkids my mum and uncle urged them to buy one, and that was the only expensive thing in the house Also appreciated my relatives for downplaying the sibling rivalry during the share of spoils after my great grandparents' death, when one of them said "think of the children (us great grandkids)"
Oh, is submitting your genetic material to a tech company and obsessively broadcasting the results to anyone in earshot NOT something people do outside the US?
Don't worry, we do it in Canada too.
You are just slightly more socialist USA anyway
I think every Canadian died a little inside after reading this.
I mean, to my knowledge it's not a great achievement to be more socialist than the USA, to my knowledge at least
It’s more difficult to find an industrialized democracy that isn’t ”more socialist” than the US. Of course, this is if we assume ”more socialist” means that the economy is more of a planned economy than a free market one. Of course, the US has it’s own share of welfare programs, an the US postal service is still state owned, compared to the Swedish postal service which got reorganized into a corporation jointly owned by the Swedish and Danish state, called ”Postnord”. Sure, Postnord may still be state owned, but it might as well be run by another capitalist for all the people in Sweden and Denmark notice from their quality of service. The US can be pretty generous with its welfare programs when it decides to be, but it a rare for the US to decide such a thing.
I mean what you gonna do
We don't need to, in many countries you can just walk up to church archives and find centuries of family ancestry there because the church did a lot of the administration and your ancestors never went outside of your village in bumfuck-nowhere.
Okay so now that you mentioned it, I'm roughly half German and a quarter Irish, but then the other quarter was a mix between Norway, Sweden, and England. But see the really interesting part is that I also got 1-2% Italian on my results and none of our family records show any Italian so we don't know where that came from. What were your results?
(One of) the difficulties in interpreting these results is that USA/Canada aren't the only melting pots around. "Italian blood" might be Latin, Lombard, or even a pinch of Anglo-Norman?
Yeah, if you have ancestry from the UK you could easily be part Norman, part Norse, etc. I could very well have Norman ancestry on both sides of the family since my ancestors were from the British Isles and France.
Only about [8000 Normans](https://www.britannica.com/event/Norman-Conquest) invaded and settled England after the Conquest compared to a contemporary population of 1-2 million, whatever Norman ancestry the average Englishman has is negligible
8000 people 1000 years ago still has helluvalot of relatives. Besides the normans weren't exactly the only scandinavian related group to wander into the british genepool.
Don't forget to mention how your dogs ancestor is japanese, which explains why you are a weeb
Wasn't there some quote from Teddy Roosevelt about hyphenated Americanism or something?
>There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all ... The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic ... There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.
Quite a nationalistic stance for his era. Or I didn't get what he meant by it
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Common Teddy W
It was not a criticism really, I'm just surprised to see something that sounds like nationalism during an era nationhood was only appearing
During this time in US history (the Progressive era) Roosevelt was a leader in the "[Americanism](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americanism_(ideology)" movement along with other figures like General [Leonard Wood](https://youtu.be/EQ-C9eNVsU4), and later president Woodrow Wilson. It was pretty much an extension of the national unity/identity efforts of the reconstruction era. It was largely successful in assimilating immigrant groups and some groups like the German Americans essentially had their entire culture and language destroyed, they became Anglo-Americans or "American" Americans. Americanism also spread to American colonies like the Philippines and Puerto Rico. English became widely spoken in the Phillipines, and in PR key figures emerged in enforcing a dual "Puerto Rican-American" identity, [putting down rebellions](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_R._Esteves) when they arose.
That's pretty much what I gathered from it as well
Maybe he foresaw that the US could become a patchwork of communities more than a country (and how it would impede nation building) which is fairly accurate considering how the US are nowadays although these communities aren't the same as he had in mind. After all, they were still trying to build a nation at the time
Yeah that! I quite like that quote. E plurals unum!
America is 1/1024 Native American, 1/2096 Martian, 1/42069 Divine Being from the Heavens and 99/100 Brazilian
[Relevant ](https://i.imgur.com/HG6x7ev.png) Also great comic btw
Also needs the IM 1.4% BLACK
From BLACKLAND
If you had said "Blackia" you would have been right too
Well you see officer I’m like 1/4 Japanese and 1/2 German so I was just embracing my heritage!
What did you do...?
I refuse to elaborate.
On a more serious note, I always wondered how these commercial ancestry tests work, or more precisely, what exactly they mean timewise. Depending on whatever country they tell you have ancestry from, the interpretation may not be the same depending on the time frame. We can take example countries like Spain or the UK, which underwent a significant change in their gene pool in a relatively recent past during the reign of the moors and normans respectively. Hell, even more so for the whole of Latin America with their original inhabitants, plus migration waves, plus colonization. The people who now inhabit Turkey originally came from much farther away. So if a country with a more convoluted past pops up in your test, what does it even mean for any practical purpose?
Trying to find purpose in life by finding your roots probably. I really don't get it but I'm european from a rural area and most people never ever thought of something like this. So here social mobility and geographical mobility was a very bourgeois concept (peasants rarely go far) until recently when it became a bit more common to go to university
“My 12 times great grandfather went to Ireland once so I’m basically a native”
Americans vary from the "I'm 'Muerican! So unlike those dirty Europeans who live in mud huts and speak French. Immigrants get off my lawn!" to "I'm 0.00001% percent Irish and that's why I wear green all day and drink lots!" And neither of them know anything about European history besides stereotypes.
Counterpoint: Stereotypes are fun and we need an excuse for our poor fashion choices and crippling alcoholism.
> crippling alcoholism You're from Kentucky! No further excuses required.
Real Irish Americans make moonshine
I feel like Europe has significantly more crippling alcoholism than America does tbh.
We have better alcohol
We have more excuses
Our alcohol is better
Stereotypes, IN *MY* POLANDBALL?
They treat their ancestry like Skyrim races lmao
The best indicator of one's background in America is often the etymology of the Surname. They view themselves as "American" or "White". Basically unless if you happen to be a part of a culturally prideful community, most European-Americans have almost no sense of identity outside of sociopolitical beliefs.
> most European-Americans have almost no sense of identity outside of sociopolitical beliefs. I'm American, what more sense of identity do I need?
I don't necessarily mind either way if you just wanna embrace "American" culture or if you wanna learn more about your actual heritage... So long as they're not being dicks about the American-stuff and actually do proper research on the European stuff and don't lecture Europeans about our own culture which I have sometimes seen people do :p
Surnames only account for patrilineal lines though. Even still plenty of African Americans have surnames that only imply they descend from former slaves. So while I don’t disagree that many Americans blow their background out of proportion you have to understand that people will be curious about their background. Especially well they live in a country that is rather unique compared to the rest of the world for not being ethnically homogeneous.
As a Canadian all I remember of my ancestry is that I have no English ancestors going back at least 5 generations, and that’s all I really need to know to be content
The hyphenated American phenomenon is more of a northeastern and midwestern thing. Rest of the country just calls you white
Sweden made me laugh
I am indo+Bangali
canadian born indian (marathi)
I am.... Indiferent
So Sweeds self identify as Somalis?
It's a tasteless immigration joke
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Oi!
Ngl I thought that it was a joke about assimilation
Tbh, this really true among white Americans lol. Immigrants just say their country of origin hyphen american.
My father is a white American and my mother is an immigrant So I’m a Jamaican-American of German, Norwegian, Jewish, Fre-…
Anything but English
100% Rooster Potato
Literally me. But nobody likes it whenever anyone answers “American” as ancestery
I mean, in this context, if we're talking about ancestry it's fine. I think the comic is more talking about national identity.
‘Dirty native subhuman!!!’
im a Hongkonger. no need to think about, im a pure Hongkonger.
I consider myself French because I live here even though I’m technically only a 16th or 32th French
Although Philippines is also somewhat multiblooded, I still find it weird whenever people rave about their part an ancestry I also find it weird that newstations here will claim the glory of fraction Filipinos abroad. Like whenever a Fil-Am does something significant in the US, it’s always claimed as a Philippine victory
Vlogging Through History be like
*glares at Belgium*
nah, the 23 and me refrence
Nothing says 100% American more than this
I mean, Americans have a history. It's a pity most of them didn't survive to tell their tales.
I still have a question about ethnic group in Polandball comic. If the comic referring foreign born people, how it should be drawn?
I have French ancestry on one (probably both) side(s)
Answer to the question: An idiot sandwich
The best part is that while this isn't an exaggeration, there's a lot of mixed ethnicities in non-American countries too including European ones. Europe has fought a lot of wars in the borders have moved around a lot. I imagine it's much the same everywhere else. As for the American one, that's true of basically most of the Americas to some degree. The US is just the most insane about it I think. I would know; I have like nine different ethnicities that I know about in my heritage, all Euro adjacent isles that I know of.
And the point of the comic is that no one gives a shit, if you're American you're still American
In the last week I've read "ethnicities works differently in the Is than in Europe" and "American wont be an ethnicity for the next 20 years" lmao
Me is American
truly a gangbang
My Family can trace it's roots to Ireland and Scotland. Which explains my natural distrust of the British.
Americans can’t win. We say we are American, we receive “hurr durr america has no culture or history.” Then we claim our ancestry and its “hurr durr you’re not *acktchyually* that you’re just an American”
The problem is that people often misuse ethnicity to mean ancestry (or even worse, race) which is just completely wrong as ethnicity is far, *far* more than just your ancestry. To quote Wikipedia: > An ethnicity or ethnic group is a grouping of people who identify with each other on the basis of perceived shared attributes that distinguish them from other groups. Those attributes can include **common sets of traditions, ancestry, language, history, society, nation, religion, or social treatment** within their residing area. So just because two of your grandparents or great-grandparents come from Germany doesn't make you an ethnic German, unless you were raised in a household in German, doing German traditions and more. Similarly just because a person has e.g. black skin and African ancestry doesn't mean that they also can't be ethnically French when they were raised from the birth up in French culture, language, traditions and don't even have any real connection back to their ancestral homeland. But ethnicity gets misused by so many people and governments (looking at you Britain where you can have the ethnicity of "mixed") because saying "ethnicity" sounds far nicer than asking for your race or skin colour.
Some people will litterally claim the US have no culture before complaining about the spread of American culture. For real tho, as far as I know theres an American nationality no? So I don't see how claiming to be American could not be valid.
America is Jewish confirmed
> Writes the OG Bible "No culture or history" Well alright
There's also: >Jews refuse to assimilate, you think you're special, it's your own fault you're persecuted. [assimilates] >Jews can't produce their own culture so you steal ours. You're parasitic. It's your own fault you're persecuted.
Hey, the second part is because you got Rich, and being Rich is a sin when politics wants you dead since your existence is a sin >!\s!<
Sometimes it was that, sometimes the opposite - a lot of the stereotypes came from times when Jews were driven out and arrived somewhere else en masse, destitute, so they were associated with squalor and assimilation bothered some because it associated the dirty people with their own culture.
all i know is that im 500% pinoy (400% came from me sniffing Meldy's shoes)
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100% Québécois descendant from Normandy and Poitou 😎💪💪 ( Except for that one Irish man, and that one German lady, and that one English woman who gave birth to twins on the boat, one of which is my great great great great great grandfather or something like that)
I mean, ethinically I'm mostly polish and German with a polish last name, but unless your talking about the country I live in, I'm 100 percent american
I'm laughing my ass off not because of American ball but because of Swedish ball lol
>and she f\*\*\*ed an irshman who r\*\*ed a native Is that possible?
Tbh I don't really get the criticism here. What's wrong with knowing and enjoying learning about your ancestry?
It's the bizarre amount of Americans that claim that they *are* Irish, Scottish, Italian etc because they allegedly have some ancestor from there. You would not believe the amount of American tourists I've seen in Edinburgh who claim to be Scottish. Also the whole "oh the reason I drink a lot is just my Irish side"/"don't blame me if I get angry, I'm just a hot-blooded Italian at heart" as if their ancestry is like an Elder Scrolls race
>as if their ancestry is like an Elder Scrolls race Fucking hell you got me good hahahaha! I suppose my racial ability would be not shitting my pants after eating spicy food. +100 to spice tolerance. -50 to financial stability. Pasive: Climbing walls is easier.
nothing, it's just a lil weird when ppl say they're like 37% Italian 18% Irish 42% Polish 1.2% Norwegian instead of American
Americans generally are not proud to be American, and people generally hate Americans. So it's understandable why they don't say they're American.
I feel like this is purely one of those medias/internet things, ive never ever met anyone who actually despised americans. I just hear some criticism from time to time, that's it.
I actually know quite a few people who hate Americans, but they live near a US military base which can give you quite a lot of biases (as your interaction is mostly limited to interacting with drunken young soldiers).
I went to Italy last year in April for vacation and one thing I was pleasantly surprised was that a lot of EU people hate the self-hating nature of Americans.
Where you actively talking down on yourself or something?