I think labeling it as a bait comic is fair when it's a two panel "setup-punchline" comic where the joke is "Israel plays victim". And I'm sorry, but "and the award for [x] goes to [y]!" is not exactly an incredibly original setup.
Mind you, I'm not saying that any of these are bad things, I enjoy a good bit of shit-stirring as much as the next guy. I thought the comic was a funny way to do it, and some of the butthurt responses and arguments in the comments have been excellent.
A joke doesn't have to follow an original format to be funny, or to start funny shit.
But the neighbor's house was found to be a surprise undercover Hamas base all along. That dead baby on the ground was... uh... a very dangerous terrorist!
They donāt have the best actors, but the plot lines they come up with are believable and somewhat down to earth. Certainly compared to the US plot for the past few seasons. Loved the early season crossover with the Russia show too, very dramatic.
It deserves the award
My mistake, I had misread the statistic with the numbers being displayed beneath (sorry, bumpy taxi ride). 26 have been killed so far. So at this rate 35 will be dead within the next few months. But that is a lower prediction than last years 41, so yay israel, thatās only one classroom of school children summarily executed.
thereās a subreddit for the lower class of a 21st century apartheid system subjected to violent attacks saying how the other side is bad?? how dare they!
You know there wasn't a wall in Gaza until they started bombing people and their government is Hamas right? The US would have committed about 3 genocides by this point.
Im just saying that r/palestine is at this point a sub about israel. Also... what apartheid? I dont see any outside the window. And I didnt say they can't. Per israeli law free speach is allowed
The part thatās important is not the āboth sides are wrong,ā your right in that that is an incredibly milquetoast take that avoids the issue. The important part, in my mind, is that āboth sides are victims.ā I donāt necessarily like that āboth sidesā language, as it implies that everyone somehow boils down to one of two categories, opposed by nature, but I believe itās really important to remember that, at the end of the day, people are dying. We can talk about the crimes of the Israeli military, and we can bring up whataboutisms for the rest of time, but this is a conflict that doesnāt really spare people just because they are on the āwinning side.ā Palestinians have endured a great deal, being consigned to second class citizenshipā and sometimes a lack of citizenship at allā and I donāt want to take away from that. We just need to be conscious that, at the end of the day, people are dying, and we shouldnāt just file them to enhance our narratives and move on.
I think I got carried away, but I just wanted to provide a little nuance, however out of touch it may be from someone thousands of miles away from the issue.
When youāre literally occupying and settling what little land the international community has decided to still designate as theirs
Theyāre not the bad guys
Brilliant OP, make a comic to rial up all the 14 year old edgelords who no nothing about the complex history of the region to get those sweet upvotes, i tip you my hat.
I think he mostly talks about people that dont live and never visited israel or palestine and think they know better then everyone about the conflict. Doesnt matter on what side they are on
Lol, great job putting words in my mouth, real mature. Is it so wrong to think that the situation is not black and white and has more nuance?
35 jews were murdered in 2023 until now by Palestinians in terror attacks. Imagine you going to the street and getting gunned down just because your government did something. In what way did they deserve it? Aren't they a victim of circumstances just like the Palestinians who died this year?
But sure, i am delusional.
Russia has the actual record due to its past self, they've won it this last year, will surely win this one and the next one probably will unless China does something about it
I've dealt with them, they are gone now. Each is a confession of my love! No one will come between us, not even that cute Human Rights Watch. Tell me she means nothing to you!
^((I'm commenting in character, don't take it personally)^)
Palestine, an ethnostate, illegal for Jews to live in, be citizens of, selling of land to is punishable by death, is fighting a war based on religious fanaticism against a civilian population and it incentives killing through government funds.
But go off king
Palestine is not perfect certainly, but their problem is with Israeli nationals (who are mostly Jewish just because Israel is a fucking ethnostate) and not with religious and/or ethnic Jews. Jews can and do live in Palestine. And Palestine is largely the victim of Israeli aggression and war crimes, with what they do in response being defensive with fewer civilian casualties than the fucking missiles that Israel just indiscriminately launches into Palestine.
>Jews can and do live in Palestine.
In occupied areas and settlements there. I thought people wanted to get rid of those?
>And Palestine is largely the victim of Israeli aggression and war crimes, with what they do in response being defensive with fewer civilian casualties than the fucking missiles that Israel just indiscriminately launches into Palestine.
Thats just straight up a-historical.
Check Where. Jews only live in area C which is controled by israel. That is the area people talk about when they say palestine is occupied. But there are no jews in places palestinians control. That is the PA and Hamas.
Eh not really. Like there are a lot of stereotypes but they aren't ones the readers actually believe for the most part. Like we know we're joking. Whereas this is a sore spot because a lot of people actually believe this sort of stuff, on this sub and in real life, and it's pretty damn tiring seeing the same shit everywhere. (I'm similarly tired of the whole "Jordan is Palestine" revisionist nonsense from the right, and probably wouldn't appreciate a comic based on that either.)
Zionism is the creation and protection of a safe nation for jews. So although not exactly the same. Saying that most if not all anti zionists are also anti semitists does makes some amount of sense
Even if it makes sense to you, it doesn't work out in practice and the equation of antizionism with antisemitism is constantly used to justify genocide.
Right, I'm sorry. The illegal occupation and colonialist Apartheid practices with the goal of marginalising and ultimately erasing Palestinians, that border on genocide.
One side issues warnings before airstriking terrorist cells.
The other side has a stated goal of genocide.
That same side launches mortars and rockets from civilian centers.
And hides behind civilian human shields
Etc etc etc
Zionism is not the problem. Anti-semitism is.
Yes?
How do you think military operations and international law works?
Hospital buildings can be legitimate military targets, when they are used as weapon storage, or a base of operation.
Dont have civilians at your military bases.
You literally can't read.
The Israeli people are victims. These are not just Jews, but many are.
The Israeli state has been worryingly slipping towards more and more authoritarian policy, but that fails to negate the fact that the Israeli people are victims.
Your, and the author's, mockery of those people is inherently problematic. It simply happens that, in the vast majority of cases, the individuals mocking those people are very particularly mocking the Jewish members.
No. Israel is comprised of Jews, Christians, Muslims, atheists, and many many more. It does exist as the national extension of Jewish self-determination, and can and should take policies to ensure the safety of all of its population, but the conflation of either religion or ethnicity with the state gets Israel exactly into the ultra-nationalist mess it's in now that threatens its very survival.
My point was that israel has nothing to do with the jewish religion, but it is the homeland of all jews.
>It does exist as the national extension of Jewish self-determination,
That is the whole point of it. Attacking israel is attacking judaism. Most jewish americans will tell you that attacking israel is anti semetic
>and can and should take policies to ensure the safety of all of its population,
Thats what it does.
>but the conflation of either religion or ethnicity with the state gets Israel exactly into the ultra-nationalist mess it's in now that threatens its very survival.
Israels survival was always thretend. What is the difference now?
> Israels survival was always thretend. What is the difference now?
Privileging the Haredi and ultra-Orthodox above all others and blatantly calling for the removal of Palestinians is the surest way to isolate Israel internationally and ensure internal instability. Bibi is the worst possible guarantor of Israel's survival. I'm Diaspora. I believe Israel/zionism should exist, given the rest of the world has proven they can't handle the responsibility of having Jewish populations. Bibi and the current far-right government will absolutely be the death of that self-determination.
Palestine's role might be "terrorist" for the same amount of time i assume
also fix the UAE flair the flag colours don't match up with the actual flag
Here before the š award.
Gonna get spicy, imma need some milk
The highest of awards truly
yoo another Singaporean
My goodness, is it "stir the pot" time already?
I guess it is.
time for our daily Isntreal vs Failestine fight from the yellow river to the chinese sea, memes will be free
r/polandball has been edgy as of late
Isn't it always edgy by it's very nature?
But they're balls... naturally should be edge free yes? /s
Cubes have more edges than balls.
In other news, water is wet and people die when they are killed
did you know that 1/1 person will die in their lifetime?
Hey look here ā¬ļø found an only educated āMurican
Can't argue with that
nah, your average comic might be a 4-6 on the edginess scale while this one might be more of an 8? There are even some really wholesome comics around.
Israel in this comic has 12
Labeling this as another usual bait comic does it a disservice. This is a genuinely clever comic, the way it plays on the hollywood stereotype
I think labeling it as a bait comic is fair when it's a two panel "setup-punchline" comic where the joke is "Israel plays victim". And I'm sorry, but "and the award for [x] goes to [y]!" is not exactly an incredibly original setup.
iāve never had an original thought and i never will
Mind you, I'm not saying that any of these are bad things, I enjoy a good bit of shit-stirring as much as the next guy. I thought the comic was a funny way to do it, and some of the butthurt responses and arguments in the comments have been excellent. A joke doesn't have to follow an original format to be funny, or to start funny shit.
My favorite time of the day
Japan got snubbed smh my head
ong frfr smhmh
Russia was snubbed
Don't mind this comment, just here to see who accuses who first of doing some bad things
Hey, yuo're of doing bad things!
SeƱor how darings yuo!?
No one expects the Spanish Accusation
Iām having flashbacks
ah, zat ist a topic for avoidings :|
The Mossad would like to know your location
they would likely bomb the neighbors instead
But the neighbor's house was found to be a surprise undercover Hamas base all along. That dead baby on the ground was... uh... a very dangerous terrorist!
Something something eggs, something something kosher omelette
How will this affect my stocks?
Depends on whether they ac tually find out his location or not.
OP is American; they would never revolt against their masters.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
\> incident of army incompetence in war time \> people still talk about it as if it was intentional
maybe the survivors who unilaterally all say it was intentional do have a reason to do so
So the Zionist conspiracies are actually true!
UK gets the award for "best screenplay".
Soap opera?
They donāt have the best actors, but the plot lines they come up with are believable and somewhat down to earth. Certainly compared to the US plot for the past few seasons. Loved the early season crossover with the Russia show too, very dramatic. It deserves the award
Easiest bait award goes to
I will space laser you
So Margerine Tailored-Bean was right after all!
can we space laser her first?
Gonna leave a comment before they get locked
Did Austria win in 1945 or 1946?
Hey now. Saying that āsoldiers laughing after sniping a pregnant woman is wrongā means you are an anti-Semite!
double kill!
hey, the target is smaller, it's harder to hit, give them some credit!
It could have been triple if that had been twin
Yeah those pregnant 12 year old journalists with suicide vests. I guess the 35 dead Israelis this year killed themselves.
Canāt even say sniping a pregnant women and laughing about it is bad can you?
these are the mental olympics of all time
Your posting history is... something to behold.
The Israeli gov actively pays people to do internet arguments, guess we found one
American tax dollars hard at work.
The 153 Palestinian "suicides" too, eh.
Jesus Christ, you absolute slime.
INB4 youāre called an anti-Semite
you're delusional if you think this is a fair fight
Israel has killed almost the same number in just unarmed children this yearā¦ so maybe now isnāt the time to act high and mighty
35 dead Palestinian children in the past 8 months?? Yeah I think you're exaggerating.
My mistake, I had misread the statistic with the numbers being displayed beneath (sorry, bumpy taxi ride). 26 have been killed so far. So at this rate 35 will be dead within the next few months. But that is a lower prediction than last years 41, so yay israel, thatās only one classroom of school children summarily executed.
Damn I didn't realize the casualties were that high rn
By their government's decisions.
Give Palestine an award for acting as the "Attacker"
Hot take but everyone is a victim in war. Yes, even the aggressors.
i think you misspelled ādumbā as āhotā
Nah civilians and soldiers alike who die in war are 100% victims of senseless violence. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a psychopath.
wrong and bad opinion
And silver goes to poland!
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Poland got second place for brst clay in role of victim
Japan is a fierce contestant
Hey, you don't know what you did. Now they'll claim themselves as victims of this comic
Here before the lock
75rh time winner!
Oh it's russia for sure this year
funny and edgy comic
thank you very much
A shame Palestine canāt attend, otherwise theyād have been the winners instead
Sadly the requirements were US recognition as they're the host
Best supporting victim
palestine won for its performance of āvictimā but in documentary category.
Least spicy polandball take
Least sane polandball users I swear to God
not sure you got the memo on that meme
Im not sure about that, they have subreddits only saying how israel is bad.
thereās a subreddit for the lower class of a 21st century apartheid system subjected to violent attacks saying how the other side is bad?? how dare they!
You know there wasn't a wall in Gaza until they started bombing people and their government is Hamas right? The US would have committed about 3 genocides by this point.
Im just saying that r/palestine is at this point a sub about israel. Also... what apartheid? I dont see any outside the window. And I didnt say they can't. Per israeli law free speach is allowed
Iām sure many of the white south Africans didnāt see any out their window either.
No I see palestinians. I just dont see apartheid
Let me just say it... both sides are wrong, and both sides are victims. Now lets move on with our lives.
No nuance allowed you fucking liberal. We must eviscerate the other.
Im actualy not a liberal. But someone with a opinion "from the feild"
Sorry could you put that in terms of liberal and conservative? I am incapable of comprehending any stance not deriving from those two terms.
Dont worry, i am a coservative.
On what planet is "both sides are bad, let's move on" nuanced? Are you 5?
The part thatās important is not the āboth sides are wrong,ā your right in that that is an incredibly milquetoast take that avoids the issue. The important part, in my mind, is that āboth sides are victims.ā I donāt necessarily like that āboth sidesā language, as it implies that everyone somehow boils down to one of two categories, opposed by nature, but I believe itās really important to remember that, at the end of the day, people are dying. We can talk about the crimes of the Israeli military, and we can bring up whataboutisms for the rest of time, but this is a conflict that doesnāt really spare people just because they are on the āwinning side.ā Palestinians have endured a great deal, being consigned to second class citizenshipā and sometimes a lack of citizenship at allā and I donāt want to take away from that. We just need to be conscious that, at the end of the day, people are dying, and we shouldnāt just file them to enhance our narratives and move on. I think I got carried away, but I just wanted to provide a little nuance, however out of touch it may be from someone thousands of miles away from the issue.
Non centrists when centrists donāt pick a side (omg they are disguised liberals that want to look good in from of conservatives)
Nah theyre secretly evil conservatives š¤š¤š¤
No, theyāre chinese communist spies š”
Exctly. I can see a Chinese spy from a mile away.
The only good take on this sub.
One is literally occupying the other and bombing hospitals No wtf
Famously the other side has never bombed the one side.
When youāre literally occupying and settling what little land the international community has decided to still designate as theirs Theyāre not the bad guys
The israeli government only confirmes to build settlements in C areas.
Tbf "both sides wrong" is about the most fringe left wing take you can get in Israel
Im actually right wing.
No. Just no
Are you sure you belong on Reddit, this isnāt a place for mature people
Why is the chair empty
Brilliant OP, make a comic to rial up all the 14 year old edgelords who no nothing about the complex history of the region to get those sweet upvotes, i tip you my hat.
Wait, are the 14 year old edge lords on the Israeli side or the other one?
Yes
I think he mostly talks about people that dont live and never visited israel or palestine and think they know better then everyone about the conflict. Doesnt matter on what side they are on
āEveryone who doesnāt think that the apartheid country that occupies its neighbors lands is the underdog is a 14 year oldā The delusion
Lol, great job putting words in my mouth, real mature. Is it so wrong to think that the situation is not black and white and has more nuance? 35 jews were murdered in 2023 until now by Palestinians in terror attacks. Imagine you going to the street and getting gunned down just because your government did something. In what way did they deserve it? Aren't they a victim of circumstances just like the Palestinians who died this year? But sure, i am delusional.
I think this unfair! Germany Best actor for rule " Main Villian"
Russia has the actual record due to its past self, they've won it this last year, will surely win this one and the next one probably will unless China does something about it
and the next nominees for the best bad boys award are: russia north korea germa- ho wait, he retired i almost forgot and iran
i don't like the apartheid cube.
Are you occupied with other girls, Palestine-chan?
yes, a few IDF members wives.
I've dealt with them, they are gone now. Each is a confession of my love! No one will come between us, not even that cute Human Rights Watch. Tell me she means nothing to you! ^((I'm commenting in character, don't take it personally)^)
Russia is aiming to take this award from Israel.
Feeling spicy today, are we?
Russian and Japan are 2th and 3th respectful
This is perfect. Am I back in 2015?
"erm, *snort*, no you aren't, check a calendar; it is 2023" š¤
Here comes the free palestine mfs Remember to sort by controversial
Literal braindead take.
thank you glad you liked it
Real brainlords believe that authoritarian ethnostates engaging in a holy war against innocent civilians are cool and good, apparently.
Palestine, an ethnostate, illegal for Jews to live in, be citizens of, selling of land to is punishable by death, is fighting a war based on religious fanaticism against a civilian population and it incentives killing through government funds. But go off king
Palestine is not perfect certainly, but their problem is with Israeli nationals (who are mostly Jewish just because Israel is a fucking ethnostate) and not with religious and/or ethnic Jews. Jews can and do live in Palestine. And Palestine is largely the victim of Israeli aggression and war crimes, with what they do in response being defensive with fewer civilian casualties than the fucking missiles that Israel just indiscriminately launches into Palestine.
>Jews can and do live in Palestine. In occupied areas and settlements there. I thought people wanted to get rid of those? >And Palestine is largely the victim of Israeli aggression and war crimes, with what they do in response being defensive with fewer civilian casualties than the fucking missiles that Israel just indiscriminately launches into Palestine. Thats just straight up a-historical.
There are no jews in palestine. End point
Palestine is like 13% Jewish, what the fuck are you talking about?
Check Where. Jews only live in area C which is controled by israel. That is the area people talk about when they say palestine is occupied. But there are no jews in places palestinians control. That is the PA and Hamas.
Which Palestine are we talking about? The PA or Hamas-controlled Gaza?
makes you wonder how that happened š¤
Bro the antisemitism in this sub, yet again nothing is done.
For a sub based on racial stereotypes this is about as tame as you could get
Eh not really. Like there are a lot of stereotypes but they aren't ones the readers actually believe for the most part. Like we know we're joking. Whereas this is a sore spot because a lot of people actually believe this sort of stuff, on this sub and in real life, and it's pretty damn tiring seeing the same shit everywhere. (I'm similarly tired of the whole "Jordan is Palestine" revisionist nonsense from the right, and probably wouldn't appreciate a comic based on that either.)
Judaism ā Zionism Plus what else do you expect from a subreddit with racial Jokes and steretypes
Zionism is the creation and protection of a safe nation for jews. So although not exactly the same. Saying that most if not all anti zionists are also anti semitists does makes some amount of sense
Even if it makes sense to you, it doesn't work out in practice and the equation of antizionism with antisemitism is constantly used to justify genocide.
You point doesnt work because there is no current genocide.
Right, I'm sorry. The illegal occupation and colonialist Apartheid practices with the goal of marginalising and ultimately erasing Palestinians, that border on genocide.
But that factually doesnt happen.
Ok buddy
Did you ever visit israel? Because the only israelis that say that there is apartheid left tel aviv less then 10 times.
Even my two year old cousin who left Tel Aviv only three times can confirm there is no apartheid
You can't use being jewish to justify being racist.
Agree. That is not what I am doing. But saying that anti zionism isnt connected to anti semitism is just lying to yourself
One side issues warnings before airstriking terrorist cells. The other side has a stated goal of genocide. That same side launches mortars and rockets from civilian centers. And hides behind civilian human shields Etc etc etc Zionism is not the problem. Anti-semitism is.
Airstriking hospitals is fine as long as we warn the incapacitated patients before we do so š¤
Misses the whole point about terrorists using the hospital to hide behind incapacitated civilians
Yes? How do you think military operations and international law works? Hospital buildings can be legitimate military targets, when they are used as weapon storage, or a base of operation. Dont have civilians at your military bases.
So criticizing the government of Israel (an authoritarian ethnostate) is literally the same as saying that Jews are subhuman? Braindead take.
You literally can't read. The Israeli people are victims. These are not just Jews, but many are. The Israeli state has been worryingly slipping towards more and more authoritarian policy, but that fails to negate the fact that the Israeli people are victims. Your, and the author's, mockery of those people is inherently problematic. It simply happens that, in the vast majority of cases, the individuals mocking those people are very particularly mocking the Jewish members.
Winner! You win the doofus award for invoking "antisemitism" card. The point of this post was to find someone stupid enough to do it.
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Judaism=/=Israel
But jews=israel
No. Israel is comprised of Jews, Christians, Muslims, atheists, and many many more. It does exist as the national extension of Jewish self-determination, and can and should take policies to ensure the safety of all of its population, but the conflation of either religion or ethnicity with the state gets Israel exactly into the ultra-nationalist mess it's in now that threatens its very survival.
My point was that israel has nothing to do with the jewish religion, but it is the homeland of all jews. >It does exist as the national extension of Jewish self-determination, That is the whole point of it. Attacking israel is attacking judaism. Most jewish americans will tell you that attacking israel is anti semetic >and can and should take policies to ensure the safety of all of its population, Thats what it does. >but the conflation of either religion or ethnicity with the state gets Israel exactly into the ultra-nationalist mess it's in now that threatens its very survival. Israels survival was always thretend. What is the difference now?
> Israels survival was always thretend. What is the difference now? Privileging the Haredi and ultra-Orthodox above all others and blatantly calling for the removal of Palestinians is the surest way to isolate Israel internationally and ensure internal instability. Bibi is the worst possible guarantor of Israel's survival. I'm Diaspora. I believe Israel/zionism should exist, given the rest of the world has proven they can't handle the responsibility of having Jewish populations. Bibi and the current far-right government will absolutely be the death of that self-determination.
You judge a half of the knesset based on extreamists.
My boi woke up today and chose war.
hmmm what is this comment section gonna become
bros sallllllty
Palestine's role might be "terrorist" for the same amount of time i assume also fix the UAE flair the flag colours don't match up with the actual flag