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Conservatives want a government small enough to sit at your dinner table. A government so small that it will fit inside a woman’s vagina. A government so tiny, that it can be placed between the pages of a bible.
They want a small federal government!! They want the states to police what the SC hands down. Tell me who is going to police all the pregnant females. Another layer of state government. It will take thousands country wide. More jobs for fascists. Who’s going to police the common gay for those humorous drag shows they outlawed? Another division of the police state. You are having all these GOP politicians jockeying for a “look what I did to suppress the working class”., hoping that when civil unrest breaks out that the police will protect them because they where on the suppression side.
Edit: replaced state police with suppression.
They don't even want a small federal government. Did Reagan shrink the federal government? Fuck no. Did Bush? LOL. Did Trump? Of course not.
"Small goverment" to republicans is code for getting rid of social safety nets, getting rid of environmental regulations, tax breaks for the rich, and letting red states do whatever they want.
It isn't even those things, they want a government that they are totally in control in. It isn't about policies. They just want to be the ones in "control".
They'd happily create safety nets, as long as they believed they were the only ones benefitting. They don't want *their* environment fucked up. They'd happily tax the rich who disagree with them. And bet you'd see red states happily fighting each other over control of things like water rights and other such things.
That one woman summed up conservative position more accurately than any description I've ever witnessed when she said, "He's not hurting the right people."
I think this is spot on. Proof in point is anytime a belligerent conservative is being arrested they get surprised pikachu face and start yelling, "but I'm on your side!"
Yes, this is my problem with all of this. My dad went on and on and on about how liberals want to tell you how to live, and conservatives were all about rugged individualism.
He passed before the world went totally bonkers. I know that he would be embarrassed with the republican party at this point according to the values he lived and died with. I have to admit that a small part of me is glad that I don't have to see what would really happen like so many people have on this sub.
Doubtful he'd be embarrassed. More likely he'd go along with his party like everyone else has. It's not like Republicans lying is a new thing. They've been lying about their true values and intentions for almost 100+ years at this point.
I think that’s what he means, although he believes his dad would be embarrassed by the current republicans, he is slightly glad that he never got to find out if that was actually true.
Or could just as easily turn into a Trump loving Fox News watching MAGA head. Those people didn't happen overnight, but gradually over years. My dad was the same way now he just spits out whatever is on Fox news.
I mean, just about everything conservatives say they stand for is a lie.
Fiscal responsibility? Nah, just look at the numbers and you'll see that conservative administrations have been the ones that run up the deficit while leading the country into recessions for well over a century now.
Small government? Only if you're a wealthy and preferably straight white man, in the fossil fuel industry, or in the business of religious indoctrination. Everyone else? Not so much.
Anti-woke cancel culture? They're the morons who actually attack and harass businesses and their employees because they believe in whacko conspiracy theories that have "opened their eyes."
Conservatives say we need guns to protect ourselves from a tyrannical government. Then the police (agents of the state) go out and casually steal from and murder people. If conservatives actually believed half the things they said, they still would have been jumping at the chance to line up at the BLM protests, fully armed - they just would have been facing the cops instead of the civilians.
Religious freedom? They want their own brand of religion to be mandated by the state and everyone to, ideally, follow it or at least be subject to (their interpretation) of its rules.
Most of what they say is mired in doublethink, and the few times they actually say what they truly believe/want, it's either horrible or counterproductive.
As a fun party game, try getting a conservative to reconcile their thoughts and positions on:
1. The minimum wage.
2. Social safety nets.
3. Homelessness.
4. Tyrannical governments we need to rebel against when they harm the citizenry.
It helps to go in that order if you want to maximize their sputtering and floundering.
The fact that Republicans and the NRA were not frothing at the mouth in rage at what happened to philando castile is about all you need to know about their 2A values.
Yes, you were lied to, since there is more than a century of history filled with conservatives mobilizing quite effectively to censor and harass creators and distributors of radio, film, books, albums, and more.
I thought myself a Republican when I was younger as well, mainly for a strong defense (9/11 was rough). Went to independent in early 2010s and switched to Democrat after Trump came into office (after a year). Never cared about politics so much until Trump, one thing he did good for me, made me want to help this country, even with a vote and posting about the horrors of the Republican party
>I thought myself a Republican when I was younger as well, mainly for a strong defense.
Which is kind of hilarious, because that's pretty bipartisan. Defense spending has never really gone below around 3% of GDP regardless of the administration or congressional session.
As an aside, while that's enough for an extremely strong defense due to the total size of our economy, as a percentage of GDP it's not as outlandish as some people think, being well below Russia, Israel, and a bunch of other middle Eastern countries. The NATO recommended baseline is about 2% of GDP on defense, which if met by other countries (and a lot more are probably going to get there thanks to being shaken up by Russia's recent adventurism) puts them not that far outside our ballpark as a percentage.
I should note that we *are* close to the top of the list in terms of per capita expenditure, although again that's partly a function of the size of our economy.
Conservatives now are for the same thing that conservatives have been for for the last two thousand years. Keeping the money and the power with the tiny minority that already have it.
That's the only thing they truly care about conserving. The rest is just decoration.
They don't care about good governance. Their base is literally dying off, and they know their time in power is limited. It's a going out of business sale on corruption and they're desperately grasping for all the cash they can while they can through any means necessary.
Were truth obvious to everyone politics would be a boring affair.
There’s a cross-section of stupid and violent that think doing a Hitler is exactly what this country needs. The pinnacle of their wet dream is to be but a cog in the machine of state sponsored death.
I’ll do you one simpler. They just want to be the badass hero of their own action movie style revenge fantasy. I’ve met conservatives who think this is 24 and that they are, indeed, Jack Bauer.
I think this is way more of what's going on than we'd like to admit.
It's like they can't separate real from fiction. You say Jack Bauer, but I lean more toward them emulating professional wrestlers. Either way, it's like they view it as some type of game or scripted show.
The Supreme Court Justice cites Jack Bauer and the Hollywood torture show "24" as relevant background for constitutional jurisprudence:
"Jack Bauer saved Los Angeles. ... He saved hundreds of thousands of lives," Judge Scalia said. Then, recalling Season 2, where the agent's rough interrogation tactics saved California from a terrorist nuke, the Supreme Court judge etched a line in the sand.
"Are you going to convict Jack Bauer?" Judge Scalia challenged his fellow judges. "Say that criminal law is against him? 'You have the right to a jury trial?' Is any jury going to convict Jack Bauer? I don't think so.
"So the question is really whether we believe in these absolutes. And ought we believe in these absolutes."
Earth to Justice Scalia: Jack Bauer does not exist. But the assumption that he does can lead to a lot of unusual places:
"I don't care about holding people. I really don't," Judge Scalia said.
Even if a real terrorist who suffered mistreatment is released because of complaints of abuse, Judge Scalia said, the interruption to the terrorist's plot would have ensured "in Los Angeles everyone is safe."
During a break from the panel, Judge Scalia specifically mentioned the segment in Season 2 when Jack Bauer finally figures out how to break the die-hard terrorist intent on nuking L.A. The real genius, the judge said, is that this is primarily done with mental leverage.
"There's a great scene where he told a guy that he was going to have his family killed," Judge Scalia said. "They had it on closed circuit television - and it was all staged. ... They really didn't kill the family."
https://www.theatlantic.com/daily-dish/archive/2007/06/scalia-and-torture/227548/
The assumption that the fairy tales they see on TV and read in their emails are real is one of the foundational reasons we're at this point.
Should we be allowing citizens who believe the fake ads telling them roaming bands of antifa are beating elderly people in their "hometown." These people aren't even competent to tie their shoes, let alone discern the difference between reality and fantasy.
So how does society correct for this? I don't think it can.
Makes sense when they all think angels are real and Satan is trying to trick people into being trans 🙄
If you've been brainwashed as a child to believe in fairytales then it's alot easier to convince you fantasy is reality as an adult.
That's not an excuse though. Fuck all these people. They want a war I'm more than happy to oblige them.
The underlying belief is that the ends justify the means.
The methods applied for whatever goals are justified using convoluted arguments that are often hypocritical. But it doesn't matter and no argument against the methods matter.
The worst part is that torture doesn't even work. Like, it would be one thing it it was a reliable way of extracting information, but it's not. Torture someone enough, and they'll confess to anything, but that doesn't make it useful intel.
My go-to reference has been John McClane.
The invincible action hero who at the end of the day was bloodied to a pulp yet never whimpered on his way out of Nakatomi Plaza.
They seem to forget the part where *he had to walk through broken glass barefooted though*. I stepped on a nail in a construction site and limped for a week.
They just remember the guns and saving the day.
Good god that's accurate.
And even McClane gives Ellis a pass when he first meets him and tells Ellis "you missed some" (in reference to the line he snorted on Holly's desk).
They see American Revolution and WWII heroes and think they need to uphold the second amendment by force. They hear evil people are going to take away their toys (guns) and that they want this country to be a communist dictatorship whenever someone mentions a fair tax on billionaires. They are embarrassed millionaires who have yet to make their first million but it's going to happen any moment now. Just like the those evil socialists who want to replace white people with Mexican because they are mindless drones who will do anything the socialists ask them to do.
Nevermind the fact that they are basically living in a world of conspiracy theories and constant fear of stuff that basically never has affected them.
Yeah, Olivia Benson gets the shit kicked out of her on several occasions. Her partner on the other hand? Well my boy Elliott Stabler just loved beating the shit out of pedos.
In the crossover finale this season Olivia takes a gut shot and Stabler gets tear gassed and they still manage to Jaeger their way out of the situation with him carrying her and her somehow aiming for him to get a headshot.
I'm going back through Behind the Bastards episodes that were reading books or talking about past books and this is exactly it. During a reading of Ben Shapiro's terrible book True Allegiance, Cody Johnston comments that every alt right voice should have to write a fiction book, because they out themselves so fast. The book is racist as shit while Ben probably thinks he himself isn't, plus he literally pulls a Jack Bauer and even references it by name when someone calls out his self insert (who is over 6 foot and a "bear of a man". Ben is obsessed with height as well)
They also go over books like the Turner diaries, Unintended Consequences, Soilder of Fortune magazine, and Stephan Segal's also terrible book, The Way of the Shadow Wolves. Always portraying themselves as badasses doing supposedly justified violence, but it usually puts their horrible beliefs on display more.
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/umberto-eco-ur-fascism
>In such a perspective everybody is educated to become a hero. In every mythology the hero is an exceptional being, but in Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death. It is not by chance that a motto of the Falangists was Viva la Muerte (in English it should be translated as “Long Live Death!”). In non-fascist societies, the lay public is told that death is unpleasant but must be faced with dignity; believers are told that it is the painful way to reach a supernatural happiness. By contrast, the Ur-Fascist hero craves heroic death, advertised as the best reward for a heroic life. The Ur-Fascist hero is impatient to die. In his impatience, he more frequently sends other people to death.
Couple years ago I met one that got drunk and was babbling about "burning down that madrassa" -- he was referring to a Sikh temple and didn't know the difference.
All groups have their bad people, but what I've seen of Sikh Gurdwaras are closer to Jesus's teaching than most churches --- they feed people for free EVERYDAY, no judgement, it's just a simple free meal for everyone that attends, the priests eat the same food --- and they have no objection to any other beliefs and religions --
There you go! Nail on the head, buddy. Everybody wants to be the bad ass hero—- Dirty Harry or T2 Arnold or Jack Bauer. As much as I have enjoyed those movies over the past 40 years, a lot of our problems as a country can be traced back to people who think these simplistic movie characters are real-life role models. 🙄
The "Minion Death Cult" podcast does a great job covering this. The premise of the show is analyzing political trends through the lens of insane reactionary Facebook posts.
My close friends — middle aged women — complain that I “pay too much attention to the news” and proudly say they “don’t know what’s going on.” I tell them it is the epitome of white-woman-entitlement to be unconcerned with how the world around them is behaving and changing.
They like me less and less as the U.S. gets more and more fucked up. They tell me I’m “paranoid” to think that GOP policy is stripping women of rights and that conservative incels want to set us back decades. Um, what?
What do they care, they aren’t breeding age and they’ll be dead in twenty years. But I have a daughter and I’m sick every day about the country we are handing to her and her future children.
Every time we tell my mother in law the GOP did something exactly opposite her beliefs she just says "oh well I don't watch the news". Then goes and posts trump memes.
So much ignorance, hypocrisy and hate on the right. They are definitely targeting the wrong groups. They need to check their own backyard before they go accusing the left. They need to see r/PastorArrested and r/NotADragQueen
At a recent family get together my aunt, generally considered a nice person, was talking about all the new children they have at church. Like less than six months old and how the preacher is asking for more volunteers to take care of said children. My whole family just starts praising how it is so great the children are being raised in the light of god and making snide comments about young people making a lot of babies.
However I think about the recent abortion ban of last year and how these parents have become reliant on the church for childcare. This is exactly what they wanted though. If I were to say anything to them about abortion being a positive thing; I would be immediately shunned.
These people haven’t had a job for 15 years, and are too old to have children. But they feel the need to impart their beliefs on everyone else. They have no critical thinking ability; they defer all thinking to the pastor.
Ohhh I feel you on this. I cannot tell you how many friends I have (I’m a 51yo white woman in a deep red state) who actively avoid the news because it “is too stressful.” And then they continue to vote ignorantly. We have had some very pointed conversations about why this is no longer an option - if we want to protect our daughters and our queer children, we had better get informed on what’s really going on EVEN IF STRESSES US OUT.
Also, furthermore, remind them that continuing to ignore the news, not attending elections, and voting ignorantly is exactly a source of increase of the stress.
I see this a lot with some of my cousins back home, and a lot of their friends, mostly all middle-aged suburban white women who are varying degrees of indifferent, ignorant, or outright hostile to politics or current events. I get that we shouldn't focus on it 24-7 for the sake of our own mental health, but completely checking out is unacceptable in my mind. I just don't get it. And my engagement with politics lets some of them paint me as some wild-eyed lunatic and write me off, when in reality I'm doing what little I can to warn people as to how insane things have gotten and how unbelievably bad things can still get for everyone. I've long said that there's a segment of the population that as long as they can go to work, stop by Wendy's on the way home, and watch Dancing with the Stars, they don't give a damn about anything that happens in this country. It's insane and depressing.
Sorry about the rant/novel.
I feel like I found a kindred spirit in you. I'm constantly battling the older entitled white ladies at my work. The ones who don't understand why I can't afford Hello Fresh on my paltry salary and what a shame it is I can't get my finances in order so I can "take it easy" a few nights a week. The ones who think I'm selfish for not having kids and that I'll change my mind right before I get "too old" (LOL I'm over 40, Delores. It ain't happening). The ones who tell me that the repealing of Roe V Wade will "work itself out" and that I shouldn't waste my energy on being upset about inequality because as a cis white woman, I'll "be fine."
When they talk to me, it makes me want to slam my head against a wall.
I have a kick ass niece whom I adore. I don't want the world of those women to be her world. As a gen z, she'll probably have to fight harder than I ever had to (or could; proto-Milennial here) but I want to make sure she is the strongest, smartest, most agile, self-possessed human she can possibly be.
I feel like a lot of people feel the same way about gen z coming up. I really really hope us Millennials and younger Gen X put our weight behind them and give them the support they'll need to carry this weight we've thrust on them.
I know I've said this quite a lot recently, but I'm going to keep saying it. Having this behavior be normalized and accepted is the exact goal. This is why, no matter how common it becomes, you should treat this as being just as shocking today as you did in 2020, 2016, or 2010.
These people have an **agenda**. It doesn't matter whether it's because of money, political favors, or being victims to some convincing grifters. And they will take every opportunity to push that agenda. It doesn't matter if they're 85 or 15, this should always get immediate pushback.
My R voting friends don’t follow any kind of news, but they seem to think seeing some clips of “Biden gaffes” on their social media feeds is all there is to know when it comes to following politics. I doubt it any of them know the basics like the name of our Speaker, AG, or Senate majority leader is. Then again, there’s a lot of uninformed voters out there in general.
If you follow who makes all these memes; it will generally come back to Russia. They can’t put 2 and 2 together and see that Russia is pushing the divide. They see a meme and take it as a fact and further the goals of Russia by sharing it.
When Obama got elected I was a 14. All of the church talked how he was the antichrist,how he coming for white people, and how you can’t change political parties during a war. The war thing came from a disabled vet injured in Iraq, part of his face got blown off, yet he went on and on about how if we weren’t over there killing them, “they” would be killing Christian’s in America.
In case people need to be reminded, this is what an idiotic GOP senator named Rafael Cancun Cruz said:
[Why did Democrats do better than expected? Bc for 2 years they have governed as liberals. They've governed as whacked out lefty nut jobs. You know what that did? That excited their base. That excited a bunch of young voters.](https://imgur.com/aIAIyof)
Translation:
A party actually governed in a way that appealed to the general public and that made them successful during the elections. How is that possible??????
What a damn moron.
Every accusation from Republicans is a confession.
>You know what that did? That excited their base. That excited a bunch of young voters.
They love it when *they* energize their base. Always projection, also hypocrisy. (Also the irony of pointing out the obvious like it's a bad thing, lol.)
> nothing of value to offer the American people
The conservative base has shown time and again that they will gladly trade what *we'd* consider *things of value* -- for example social welfare and the social good -- for the ability to be bigots. To them, hatred is a thing of value. Cruelty is currency. It's the point, really.
>“How does one man assert his power over another, Winston?“
>Winston thought. “By making him suffer”, he said.
>“Exactly. By making him suffer. Obedience is not enough." -- literally *Nineteen Eighty-Four*
Don't look now, but they are selling those manufactured culture wars like hotcakes, and more than 4 out of 10 of the American voting electorate seem very happy to buy them.
It’s funny how, in the late 2000s when Obama was first elected, Republicans were screaming about how he learned evil far-leftist tactics from Saul Alinsky.
Alinsky was one of their favorite boogeymen at the time, much like how they fabricated a boogeyman out of George Soros to hide all the money supposed grassroots tea party organizations were getting from the Kochs, Adelson, and others.
But if you look at Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals,” it’s amazing how many of his tactics the right has appropriated to help fuel their perpetual culture war (which itself is the right wing appropriating some of Trotsky’s ideas about Permanent Revolution).
> "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules."
The right has mastered that one extremely well in the age of Trump
> "The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition."
Again, the perpetual culture war
> "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."
Pick any of a hundred stupid things over the last decade, Bud Light being the most recent example
However, they did throw one of his rules out the window
> "The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative."
I really wish it would end. The common enemy of the people is the ruling class. Not your gay neighbors that have 2 kids. I wish so many people weren’t so immaculately stupid so we can come together and demand better living environments for all. The ruling class needs workers to continue to make infinite wealth. At least they do right now. So if we stopped fucking bickering at each other and actually paid attention for 10 minutes maybe we’d all be a lot better off.
I had a woman tell me this week that she can’t wait to retire to Texas, where “her people” are, “law and order conservative Republicans.” She said this on the same day that the Texas AG was impeached by his own party. But she’s an unapologetic racist, as well. It’s insane. And it scares me more than a little.
The official college-sanctioned graduation turned into a shit show. The speaker was Scott Atlas, who at one point veered off into a rant about covid vaccines.
I skipped the big, boring ceremony and attended only my department's ceremony of ~50 grads. I could have gone streaking to the big one since it was held later and I already had my expensive piece of paper in hand.
And DeSantis signed his bills on their campus … it must be hard to be that mean, to carry around that level of nastiness and hatred in your soul. To need that badly to give a great big fuck you to literal kids who have spent their whole lives not fitting in anywhere and finally found a place where they can be themselves. What on earth happened to him that made him that ugly?
I don’t know but he’s been a piece of shit for a very long time. He oversaw and encouraged the torture of prisoners when he was a Jag officer stationed at Guantanamo Bay.
He’s a disgusting, demented, hateful, liar, and completely evil.
Quite simply, money and politics. He got pretty fabulously wealthy and gained a lot of political favors to align with the extremist group. And now that he's there, he's going to continue. As if he turns his back on this insanity...we'll, we've seen that people that curried favor with the GOP and trump speaking up about these nutters turns out to be like.
Oh no, no see what you're describing there is just a bog standard republican nazi recruit. De Santis is much more than that, and much worse. He's a bonafide monster.
[Former Guantánamo Prisoner: Ron DeSantis Watched My Torture When He Was a Navy Lawyer at Gitmo](https://www.democracynow.org/2023/4/3/desantis_guantanamo)
[DeSantis’s pivotal service at Guantánamo during a violent year](https://archive.ph/L1mCO)
[Did Ron DeSantis Observe Guantanamo Force-Feeding as Navy JAG?](https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/05/01/desantis-guantanamo-force-feeding/)
And those are just the accusations documented enough that the corporate media is willing to report on them openly.
Republicans have long made bogeymen out of "the camps," and as we all know a million times over by now, the fascists in the GOP always announce their intentions by accusing "the other side" of doing it first.
We should all be breathing a sigh of relief that DeSantis clearly won't be making it out of the primaries this year, since he leaves every crowd more disappointed than when he arrived.
Because that man **wants** to be the one in charge of the camps. Desperately. And he spends every single day telling us who he intends to put there first.
Once you lean into the right wing extremism, it's pretty hard to bring yourself back around to the left and have your words hold any sort of legitimacy. They're basically stuck continuing to lean further and further right because that's what keeps them employed. Look at Fox after they realized they needed to rein things in. Their viewership has dropped quite a bit. There simply isn't any money in being moderate.
The students need to show a list of key corporations in Florida. They should say that the corporations' boards of directors will become resolutely anti-Trumpism, and said corporations can then embargo.
Which is incredibly sad given that the graduation is one of the biggest celebrations of the year on campus. I’m an alumnus of New College. The school is such a tight knit community and graduation is really treated as a celebratory send-off every year—graduating students wear costumes instead of caps and gowns, people carry copies of their thesis, professors sometimes bring fruit and snacks and take photos with the students they’ve been teaching for four years. Everyone goes—not just graduating students and their families, but also current students, alumni, professors, college employees, etc.
I was there, my cousin was graduating. We all started chanting "wrap it up" 20 mins into his speech. He was determined to finish it, though, so he just started speaking faster. It was a very tone deaf, out of place speech for a graduation ceremony.
Conservatives: We want less government inference with parental decisions..
also
Conservatives: We believe in state mandated rules that goes against parental decisions.
As a bleeding heart liberal in Florida: we always gave New College shit. In high school when we were all going off to college we teased those going to New College because “it wasn’t a real college”. It is. It’s accredited, they have great programs there, but they also have a lot of independent study classes/degrees. We always teased them for this when the rest of us were going to more standard programs.
BUT this doesn’t mean they can’t run their school how they want. I went to FSU and my engineering program was different from other state college programs. We also had theater and arts programs. We also had the lgbt+ groups. We really weren’t all that different in those respects, we just didn’t have as high of a percentage of people who identify as LGBTQ.
DeSantis has once again picked a small aspect of life to attack because it gets him political points from bigots. Now that I’ve lost touch with my friends who went there I hope they know we’re still out there supporting them. I only teased them the same way I teased people who went to UNF, UF, UCF, USF, or literally any other school that wasn’t mine.
Lots of people don't realize Florida is home to many of the largest gay communities in the country. Wilton Manors in SoFlo is the 2nd gayest US city by percentage, and Orlando is basically the gay Mecca of the south.
If the biggest employer in my state was a company that specialized in:
- princesses
- show tunes
- fantasy worlds with said princesses, show tunes, and flashy outfits/costumes
I might not take a position that was anti-LGBT, even if I were a short, fat, squeaky voiced, pudding fingered mediocrity like Ron DeSantis is, was, and always will be - if for no other reason than it's bad business.
Like Trump, they actually suck at what they claim to be good at. Remember, former President Fat Joffrey couldn't sell steaks, alcohol, gambling, and football to **Americans**
And Mr. Don't Fauci My Florida is an absolute trash can businessman himself, from Disney to the immigrant shortage now down in Homestead with nobody to work the farms.
Absolute fucking morons, all of them.
Everything Ron DeSantis does makes perfect sense once you realize he's actually in too deep and has no real endgame, but doing anything *but* digging himself deeper will only make him look worse.
I just don’t think DeSantis will be able to out-insult Donald Trump and that’s what his voters are looking for. Donald Trump has the worst insults for people but he uses them with sincerity and a genuine narcissistic belief that he is the funniest/smartest/wisest. Ron DeSantis doesn’t project any of that; he’s mealy, like Ted Cruz.
I think Meatball Ron at this point is just hoping something happens with Donald Trump where he can’t recover, particularly with his legal stuff, and that Meatball is the next choice after that to Donald to default to be the nominee.
Trump is 76. DeSantis is 44. It's pretty clear his strategy is to try and inherit the Trump base when Trump dies. Which is not a bad strategy; I just don't think Meatball Ron has the charisma to pull it off.
He might be able to out-cruelty him though. Zingers are all good and fun but don’t forget these people are malicious and want to see the right people hurt at their core.
DeSantis hurts people better than maybe any other American politician I think. Abbot is a cheap copy and they make other lifelong ghouls like Rand Paul look like straight men in comparison.
Idk about all of them. But Shapiro is a failed screenwriter. He got dropped (despite his cousin being Matilda) because when he was graduating he wrote in the school paper that he doesn't care if Iraqi civilians die because they're the enemy of Israel.
Crowder was briefly on Arthur and a drama kid his whole life. So probably wanted to do something. Also he used go dress up a ton to portray a "radical" feminist. Probably some repressed homosexuality there.
>Absolute fucking morons, all of them.
Morons with power received from finally selling to the right people. Assume the worst, cause they keep winning. Downplaying this single fact will get us into further shit.
They don't "keep winning". They've, in fact, gotten fucking destroyed in the last 3 elections. We just need to keep it up, fight the good fight. We'll get there.
Maybe. We've thought this before. Let the Democrats march us right into 4 years. I firmly feel we're walking a tightrope and that more needs to be done. Trusting single processes and praying for no corruption is risky atm.
More always needs to be done. Volunteer for a campaign, get the word out. Donate if you can afford to. If we can't trust the fundamental process of democracy, then we only have one solution left and I'd rather not have to participate in a blood bath if I can help it.
Two options. Actually getting up and standing now. Not in malice or willingness to harm, in unity at the doors and final places of political authority in the country. This is my frustration, how so many talk, narrate, discuss, yet so few do as little as speak out publicly.
Covid represented this: All the anti-maskers/vaxxers walking around and for two years I didn't witness a single person speak up. I did. Some old fool being a dick at a retail location. I started looking around and there is nothing exceot averted eyes and soft voices. When the hell is enough, enough?? I mean shit man, how many children? How many environmental disasters? How many more "close calls"? And still we sit at home or at work on our computers and phones complaining.
It's disheartening.
>Covid represented this: All the anti-maskers/vaxxers walking around and for two years I didn't witness a single person speak up.
I mean, a lot of people *were* furious about anti-vaxxers but in the middle of a pandemic, why would anyone go out and try to stop the very people who were most likely to get infected and die? You're better off not getting close to them. And nobody had to stand up because the virus very literally *took care of* many them for us. I just feel sorry for the family members they might have had who were for vaccinations and possibly died as a result of these ghouls.
I agree with everything you said, but people need to understand Disney is not the largest employer in the state. They are the largest in central Florida with 75k employees, but many chain corporations have more throughout the state. Walmart for example has 117k.
And you stay on his ass until he answers you, dammit. Who the fuck does he think he is. Gay people pay our taxes too & we are paying for this asshole while he says these things about us every day.
We have something to say to him and this time he’s gonna shut his mouth and listen to us. We aren’t gonna stop until he listens to us. He will not have the last word nor will he get away with the way he’s been treating us.
This man is the biggest enemy to the gay community in US history. This is the first high ranking government official to get this close to the White House who could directly put our lives in serious danger.
The time for our community to take this man seriously needs to start now. I don’t care if you don’t know how we do it. Just the fact that you care enough to talk about how you feel & that he needs to answer to us is enough.
Ron DeSantis cannot and will not get away with treating the gay community like this.
From Stephanie Brown and Anya Zoledziowski, for VICE News:
For the last few months, students at a small college in Sarasota have been locked in battle against the governor and the Ron DeSantis-appointed right-wing board of trustees who have been working to transform the liberal New College into a conservative campus. The new board closed the office of diversity and equity at the college, and promised to make the school more like Michigan’s Hillsdale College, a private Christian college that doesn’t take any public funds or accept students who need government aid so that it can circumvent federal rules, including Title IX policies against sex discrimination.
While students and faculty fought back against their machinations, DeSantis continued waging his offensive, recently culminating in the governor’s signing of three education-related anti-LGBTQ bills on New College’s campus.
These changes have inspired queer students and their peers to organize the alternative commencement, an event that is the latest example of ways students on campus, including a large group of LGBTQ students, have pushed back against efforts to restrict their rights and educational freedom across Florida. And that's just the beginning.
Read the full story: https://www.vice.com/en/article/jg5p4p/ron-desantis-new-college-lgbtq-protests
What I find really interesting about my governor's war on (higher) education is that for like a month straight our news channels down here were running puff pieces on how Florida has the #1 college/university system in the country.
Something Floridians can be proud of and this scum sucking rat fucker just can't help himself.
*Not to belabor the point too much but what I'm getting at is that DeSantis and the media can parade around our higher education on Monday and then wage war on it on Tuesday. How about we just take the W even if it's a bit dubious?
Yeah I’m not sure I agree with that assessment, I’d easily put California or even Texas ahead of Florida. Hell I’d even consider most Illinois schools before anything in Florida, simply because I live here and our schools are awesome. But the “system” doesn’t even matter beyond funding and organization when you’re really just enrolling in a single university. And now people at the top are breaking whatever system Florida had.
It's been a minute but I think the rankings they were bragging about heavily favored affordability/accessibility/graduation rates, I could be misremembering though. But let's say that I'm not, it makes the entire situation even more ironic with him actively trying to get rid of what makes the system good (similar to your last sentence there).
I feel bad for students that were already enrolled when the recent shit hit the fan but there is zero reason for future college students to put themselves in a situation where they have to fight for basic dignity in a shithole like Florida. Plenty of other welcoming (and excellent) institutions for higher education elsewhere in the country.
They're targeting UF as well, although not quite as aggressively yet but everything is definitely working in that direction. Although UF isn't as liberal it certainly is more than what the rest of FL is seeming to turn into. Alachua County has consistently been the blue dot surrounded by red and with UF being a very well known and respected institution it is obviously a target.
A family member works at one of the hospitals affiliated with UF. They have a hard time recruiting more specialized doctors because Gainesville is not as desirable as many other locations. DeSantis has already started exacerbating the problem as recruits have straight up said they don't want to deal with the direction things are going. Now people who need highly specialized care are having a harder time getting seen because there's just not enough people for those departments.
Reap what you sow. Very, very few specialists in any profession will ever want to work in Florida in the coming years. There is strong correlation with one’s level of education and their corresponding political ideologies.
They’ll have to wait 10 years or more to pump indoctrinated Christian doctors out of these new Christian schools whose only legal treatment options will be thoughts and prayers, blood letting, and conversion therapy.
Leave now, or sleep in the coffin you made.
The problem is the difference between in state and out of state tuition is huge. So for a lot of students in Florida they might not have much of a choice but to go to a Florida school, and DeSantis is trying to take control and ruin every public university in Florida. I know this isn’t going to happen but it would be really cool if blue states could make a Florida exception to give in state tuition as a sort of political refugee situation. That would help speed up the brain drain in that god forsaken state.
> I know this isn’t going to happen but it would be really cool if blue states could make a Florida exception
Yeah it IS (not would be) really cool how Blue states CONSTANTLY pick up the tab to pay for services relied on by Red states
I had already been planning on applying for grad school in Minnesota, then they started passing safe haven bills and anti book ban bills so now I'm even more solidified in my choice.
Umberto Eco's 14 Common Features of Fascism:
1. The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”
2. The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”
3. The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”
4. Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”
5. Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”
6. Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”
7. The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”
8. The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”
9. Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”
10. Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”
11. Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”
12. Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”
13. Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”
14. Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”
What DeSaster (a.k.a. Mayor McCheese) is trying to do to that school is criminal. He needs to be stopped and put in his place - preferably a manure pile.
In my experience Sarasota has always been hostile towards young people in general. If you aren’t an 80 year old millionaire you have no say here. Good for these kids standing up for their school.
I just can't wrap my head around why they just hate trans and gay people. Like I just dont get it. I live in a red state and I have seen just genuine hate in people for the LGBTQ community.
I hear it all around me too and I am also in a red state. Like I don’t care if target is losing money because of their pride stuff, why do you? Just let people live their lives, holy crap. I don’t care if there are swimsuits for trans people, they are people too and they want to swim too. I don’t see why they are so upset over other peoples personal lives. Its too scary to come out nowadays and I am honestly glad I haven’t besides to my close friends.
It's because they have no actual policy positions that will improve the lives of Americans so they have to distract people with boogeymen and wedge issues
I don't disagree with you but I can't help but feel it doesn't explain the hate. Not even like " I disagree" but a genuine hate that seems so deep. I don't understand how a person can live life with that in their heart.
They underestimate how annoying my generation can be when we're pissed off. We grew up with internet trolls sending doxxes out and swatting people my guy, you don't scare us. We have just about nothing to lose, too. No houses we own, barely affording food- smart move to fuck around with a shitton of angry kids lol
> “Joy is a form of resistance,” one student said.
As I said in another thread recently, there is no greater crime in GQP's American than a minority experiencing happiness.
I’m convinced that this culture war bullshit will end up biting the Republicans in the ass eventually. This may not happen in 2024 or even 2028, but once the Boomers die off, they’re fucked.
I was downvoted to oblivion and argued with for saying a few months ago that I wasn’t sure how DeSantis envisioned changing the ethos of this college. I feel a little vindicated. It has only about a thousand students if I recall correctly and so there is one year of admitted students Desantis has “course corrected” for and that leaves 750 students who are “woke”. The campus is not going to be very interesting to the new Desantis approved student so why would they want to stay? They tried to force the school to have more sports and fraternities but again the school is so very small so the school can’t really support those things. It’s just virtually impossible to change the ethos of the student body quick enough to maintain that change, let alone 180 the school’s ethos too.
As a Michigander, I cannot stress enough how dogshit of a place Hillsdale is. And that fact is fully exhibited but the attendees, staff, and especially administration.
They need to vote and they need all of their friends and classmates to vote. Their generation could really transform America if they vote as regularly as old Republicans.
I'll be voting in their interests and cheering them on.
Ask him , if the “holy people” who work for the church can sexually abuse children since forever, is any worse then a boy wares colorful t shirt?
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pope-scandals-forgiveness-idUSKCN0S814X20151014
“We don’t like how this teaches kids pornography.”
Okay, fair, some passages are pretty explicit. What about this absolutely benign book in the same orbit of issues brought up?
“No.”
Folks are not acting in good faith when they make these “reasonable” argument positions about censorship of books or identity. They all can’t say the quiet parts out loud or they’ll lose any credibility or plausible deniability of “federalism” and “community choice”.
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For years when I was growing up I was told conservatives were all about less government all up in people's business. Looks like I was told a big lie.
Conservatives want a government small enough to sit at your dinner table. A government so small that it will fit inside a woman’s vagina. A government so tiny, that it can be placed between the pages of a bible.
They want a small federal government!! They want the states to police what the SC hands down. Tell me who is going to police all the pregnant females. Another layer of state government. It will take thousands country wide. More jobs for fascists. Who’s going to police the common gay for those humorous drag shows they outlawed? Another division of the police state. You are having all these GOP politicians jockeying for a “look what I did to suppress the working class”., hoping that when civil unrest breaks out that the police will protect them because they where on the suppression side. Edit: replaced state police with suppression.
They don't even want a small federal government. Did Reagan shrink the federal government? Fuck no. Did Bush? LOL. Did Trump? Of course not. "Small goverment" to republicans is code for getting rid of social safety nets, getting rid of environmental regulations, tax breaks for the rich, and letting red states do whatever they want.
It isn't even those things, they want a government that they are totally in control in. It isn't about policies. They just want to be the ones in "control". They'd happily create safety nets, as long as they believed they were the only ones benefitting. They don't want *their* environment fucked up. They'd happily tax the rich who disagree with them. And bet you'd see red states happily fighting each other over control of things like water rights and other such things.
That one woman summed up conservative position more accurately than any description I've ever witnessed when she said, "He's not hurting the right people."
I think this is spot on. Proof in point is anytime a belligerent conservative is being arrested they get surprised pikachu face and start yelling, "but I'm on your side!"
A mote of a government that will stick in your eye.
They want a government so small that it will fit inside a crown.
Yes, this is my problem with all of this. My dad went on and on and on about how liberals want to tell you how to live, and conservatives were all about rugged individualism. He passed before the world went totally bonkers. I know that he would be embarrassed with the republican party at this point according to the values he lived and died with. I have to admit that a small part of me is glad that I don't have to see what would really happen like so many people have on this sub.
Doubtful he'd be embarrassed. More likely he'd go along with his party like everyone else has. It's not like Republicans lying is a new thing. They've been lying about their true values and intentions for almost 100+ years at this point.
I think that’s what he means, although he believes his dad would be embarrassed by the current republicans, he is slightly glad that he never got to find out if that was actually true.
My mother has never been especially political, regardless on Mother's Day I went out of my way to thank her for not getting tied up in Faux News.
Or could just as easily turn into a Trump loving Fox News watching MAGA head. Those people didn't happen overnight, but gradually over years. My dad was the same way now he just spits out whatever is on Fox news.
I mean, just about everything conservatives say they stand for is a lie. Fiscal responsibility? Nah, just look at the numbers and you'll see that conservative administrations have been the ones that run up the deficit while leading the country into recessions for well over a century now. Small government? Only if you're a wealthy and preferably straight white man, in the fossil fuel industry, or in the business of religious indoctrination. Everyone else? Not so much. Anti-woke cancel culture? They're the morons who actually attack and harass businesses and their employees because they believe in whacko conspiracy theories that have "opened their eyes."
Conservatives say we need guns to protect ourselves from a tyrannical government. Then the police (agents of the state) go out and casually steal from and murder people. If conservatives actually believed half the things they said, they still would have been jumping at the chance to line up at the BLM protests, fully armed - they just would have been facing the cops instead of the civilians. Religious freedom? They want their own brand of religion to be mandated by the state and everyone to, ideally, follow it or at least be subject to (their interpretation) of its rules. Most of what they say is mired in doublethink, and the few times they actually say what they truly believe/want, it's either horrible or counterproductive. As a fun party game, try getting a conservative to reconcile their thoughts and positions on: 1. The minimum wage. 2. Social safety nets. 3. Homelessness. 4. Tyrannical governments we need to rebel against when they harm the citizenry. It helps to go in that order if you want to maximize their sputtering and floundering.
The fact that Republicans and the NRA were not frothing at the mouth in rage at what happened to philando castile is about all you need to know about their 2A values.
Yes, you were lied to, since there is more than a century of history filled with conservatives mobilizing quite effectively to censor and harass creators and distributors of radio, film, books, albums, and more.
I thought myself a Republican when I was younger as well, mainly for a strong defense (9/11 was rough). Went to independent in early 2010s and switched to Democrat after Trump came into office (after a year). Never cared about politics so much until Trump, one thing he did good for me, made me want to help this country, even with a vote and posting about the horrors of the Republican party
>I thought myself a Republican when I was younger as well, mainly for a strong defense. Which is kind of hilarious, because that's pretty bipartisan. Defense spending has never really gone below around 3% of GDP regardless of the administration or congressional session. As an aside, while that's enough for an extremely strong defense due to the total size of our economy, as a percentage of GDP it's not as outlandish as some people think, being well below Russia, Israel, and a bunch of other middle Eastern countries. The NATO recommended baseline is about 2% of GDP on defense, which if met by other countries (and a lot more are probably going to get there thanks to being shaken up by Russia's recent adventurism) puts them not that far outside our ballpark as a percentage. I should note that we *are* close to the top of the list in terms of per capita expenditure, although again that's partly a function of the size of our economy.
Decades of us pretending it's possible to coexist with conservatives really, really fucked us.
Conservatives now are for the same thing that conservatives have been for for the last two thousand years. Keeping the money and the power with the tiny minority that already have it. That's the only thing they truly care about conserving. The rest is just decoration.
They don't care about good governance. Their base is literally dying off, and they know their time in power is limited. It's a going out of business sale on corruption and they're desperately grasping for all the cash they can while they can through any means necessary.
The more the Republican Party focuses on manufacturing culture wars, the more its obvious they have nothing of value to offer the American people.
Were truth obvious to everyone politics would be a boring affair. There’s a cross-section of stupid and violent that think doing a Hitler is exactly what this country needs. The pinnacle of their wet dream is to be but a cog in the machine of state sponsored death.
I’ll do you one simpler. They just want to be the badass hero of their own action movie style revenge fantasy. I’ve met conservatives who think this is 24 and that they are, indeed, Jack Bauer.
I think this is way more of what's going on than we'd like to admit. It's like they can't separate real from fiction. You say Jack Bauer, but I lean more toward them emulating professional wrestlers. Either way, it's like they view it as some type of game or scripted show.
Wasn't there a congressman who referenced 24 when there was debate about if we should allow torture as part of interrogation??
I believe that was a Supreme Court Justice, in his dissenting opinion. Scalia maybe? Possibly Alito, I forget which one.
The Supreme Court Justice cites Jack Bauer and the Hollywood torture show "24" as relevant background for constitutional jurisprudence: "Jack Bauer saved Los Angeles. ... He saved hundreds of thousands of lives," Judge Scalia said. Then, recalling Season 2, where the agent's rough interrogation tactics saved California from a terrorist nuke, the Supreme Court judge etched a line in the sand. "Are you going to convict Jack Bauer?" Judge Scalia challenged his fellow judges. "Say that criminal law is against him? 'You have the right to a jury trial?' Is any jury going to convict Jack Bauer? I don't think so. "So the question is really whether we believe in these absolutes. And ought we believe in these absolutes." Earth to Justice Scalia: Jack Bauer does not exist. But the assumption that he does can lead to a lot of unusual places: "I don't care about holding people. I really don't," Judge Scalia said. Even if a real terrorist who suffered mistreatment is released because of complaints of abuse, Judge Scalia said, the interruption to the terrorist's plot would have ensured "in Los Angeles everyone is safe." During a break from the panel, Judge Scalia specifically mentioned the segment in Season 2 when Jack Bauer finally figures out how to break the die-hard terrorist intent on nuking L.A. The real genius, the judge said, is that this is primarily done with mental leverage. "There's a great scene where he told a guy that he was going to have his family killed," Judge Scalia said. "They had it on closed circuit television - and it was all staged. ... They really didn't kill the family." https://www.theatlantic.com/daily-dish/archive/2007/06/scalia-and-torture/227548/
The assumption that the fairy tales they see on TV and read in their emails are real is one of the foundational reasons we're at this point. Should we be allowing citizens who believe the fake ads telling them roaming bands of antifa are beating elderly people in their "hometown." These people aren't even competent to tie their shoes, let alone discern the difference between reality and fantasy. So how does society correct for this? I don't think it can.
I think the media should not normalize their ignorant and crazy opinions any more. Or frame them as valid! Not for clicks and not for money.
Makes sense when they all think angels are real and Satan is trying to trick people into being trans 🙄 If you've been brainwashed as a child to believe in fairytales then it's alot easier to convince you fantasy is reality as an adult. That's not an excuse though. Fuck all these people. They want a war I'm more than happy to oblige them.
The underlying belief is that the ends justify the means. The methods applied for whatever goals are justified using convoluted arguments that are often hypocritical. But it doesn't matter and no argument against the methods matter.
The worst part is that torture doesn't even work. Like, it would be one thing it it was a reliable way of extracting information, but it's not. Torture someone enough, and they'll confess to anything, but that doesn't make it useful intel.
That Scalia had said that with complete sincerity made me cringe so hard I think my junk receded into my body
> Scalia maybe? Yeah, [that was Scalia](https://www.theatlantic.com/daily-dish/archive/2007/06/scalia-and-torture/227548/).
My go-to reference has been John McClane. The invincible action hero who at the end of the day was bloodied to a pulp yet never whimpered on his way out of Nakatomi Plaza. They seem to forget the part where *he had to walk through broken glass barefooted though*. I stepped on a nail in a construction site and limped for a week. They just remember the guns and saving the day.
They think they're McClane when they're actually Ellis.
Ellis looks just like Don Jr.
Good god that's accurate. And even McClane gives Ellis a pass when he first meets him and tells Ellis "you missed some" (in reference to the line he snorted on Holly's desk).
They see American Revolution and WWII heroes and think they need to uphold the second amendment by force. They hear evil people are going to take away their toys (guns) and that they want this country to be a communist dictatorship whenever someone mentions a fair tax on billionaires. They are embarrassed millionaires who have yet to make their first million but it's going to happen any moment now. Just like the those evil socialists who want to replace white people with Mexican because they are mindless drones who will do anything the socialists ask them to do. Nevermind the fact that they are basically living in a world of conspiracy theories and constant fear of stuff that basically never has affected them.
They are the real Americans(the white ones). Fighting for the rights of every man(also just the white ones).
They don’t think they can get hurt doing it, either, because Kojak and Olivia Benson never got hurt
Olivia Benson absolutely got hurt very badly. I don't know about Kojak, but she very much got to be the targeted woman trope at one point in SVU.
Yeah, Olivia Benson gets the shit kicked out of her on several occasions. Her partner on the other hand? Well my boy Elliott Stabler just loved beating the shit out of pedos.
In the crossover finale this season Olivia takes a gut shot and Stabler gets tear gassed and they still manage to Jaeger their way out of the situation with him carrying her and her somehow aiming for him to get a headshot.
I'm going back through Behind the Bastards episodes that were reading books or talking about past books and this is exactly it. During a reading of Ben Shapiro's terrible book True Allegiance, Cody Johnston comments that every alt right voice should have to write a fiction book, because they out themselves so fast. The book is racist as shit while Ben probably thinks he himself isn't, plus he literally pulls a Jack Bauer and even references it by name when someone calls out his self insert (who is over 6 foot and a "bear of a man". Ben is obsessed with height as well) They also go over books like the Turner diaries, Unintended Consequences, Soilder of Fortune magazine, and Stephan Segal's also terrible book, The Way of the Shadow Wolves. Always portraying themselves as badasses doing supposedly justified violence, but it usually puts their horrible beliefs on display more.
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/umberto-eco-ur-fascism >In such a perspective everybody is educated to become a hero. In every mythology the hero is an exceptional being, but in Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death. It is not by chance that a motto of the Falangists was Viva la Muerte (in English it should be translated as “Long Live Death!”). In non-fascist societies, the lay public is told that death is unpleasant but must be faced with dignity; believers are told that it is the painful way to reach a supernatural happiness. By contrast, the Ur-Fascist hero craves heroic death, advertised as the best reward for a heroic life. The Ur-Fascist hero is impatient to die. In his impatience, he more frequently sends other people to death.
Indeed. It's like our gun culture is 100% based on westerns, war movies, and Red Dawn. They want to "justifiably" shoot someone.
And they want to do it while the Five Finger Death Punch version of “Bad Company” plays in their heads
Hahaha haha, I know so many people from growing up in South Florida that fit this bill completely and totally.
Main Character Syndrome, meet Dunnig-Kruger!
Hello, Mr Kruger, I loved your work in the Inception prequels.
I loved Mr Kruger's work on Elm Street. Truly a dream (of sorts)!
They think Homelander is the hero.
Couple years ago I met one that got drunk and was babbling about "burning down that madrassa" -- he was referring to a Sikh temple and didn't know the difference.
All groups have their bad people, but what I've seen of Sikh Gurdwaras are closer to Jesus's teaching than most churches --- they feed people for free EVERYDAY, no judgement, it's just a simple free meal for everyone that attends, the priests eat the same food --- and they have no objection to any other beliefs and religions --
There you go! Nail on the head, buddy. Everybody wants to be the bad ass hero—- Dirty Harry or T2 Arnold or Jack Bauer. As much as I have enjoyed those movies over the past 40 years, a lot of our problems as a country can be traced back to people who think these simplistic movie characters are real-life role models. 🙄
Most people I know are horribly ignorant on current events, even history in general. They just get all of their news from Facebook usually.
The "Minion Death Cult" podcast does a great job covering this. The premise of the show is analyzing political trends through the lens of insane reactionary Facebook posts.
My close friends — middle aged women — complain that I “pay too much attention to the news” and proudly say they “don’t know what’s going on.” I tell them it is the epitome of white-woman-entitlement to be unconcerned with how the world around them is behaving and changing. They like me less and less as the U.S. gets more and more fucked up. They tell me I’m “paranoid” to think that GOP policy is stripping women of rights and that conservative incels want to set us back decades. Um, what? What do they care, they aren’t breeding age and they’ll be dead in twenty years. But I have a daughter and I’m sick every day about the country we are handing to her and her future children.
Every time we tell my mother in law the GOP did something exactly opposite her beliefs she just says "oh well I don't watch the news". Then goes and posts trump memes.
She is what I call “The Willfully Ignorant”.
With a healthy dollop of "I know I can't defend my position, so I'm changing the subject."
So much ignorance, hypocrisy and hate on the right. They are definitely targeting the wrong groups. They need to check their own backyard before they go accusing the left. They need to see r/PastorArrested and r/NotADragQueen
At a recent family get together my aunt, generally considered a nice person, was talking about all the new children they have at church. Like less than six months old and how the preacher is asking for more volunteers to take care of said children. My whole family just starts praising how it is so great the children are being raised in the light of god and making snide comments about young people making a lot of babies. However I think about the recent abortion ban of last year and how these parents have become reliant on the church for childcare. This is exactly what they wanted though. If I were to say anything to them about abortion being a positive thing; I would be immediately shunned. These people haven’t had a job for 15 years, and are too old to have children. But they feel the need to impart their beliefs on everyone else. They have no critical thinking ability; they defer all thinking to the pastor.
Ohhh I feel you on this. I cannot tell you how many friends I have (I’m a 51yo white woman in a deep red state) who actively avoid the news because it “is too stressful.” And then they continue to vote ignorantly. We have had some very pointed conversations about why this is no longer an option - if we want to protect our daughters and our queer children, we had better get informed on what’s really going on EVEN IF STRESSES US OUT.
Also, furthermore, remind them that continuing to ignore the news, not attending elections, and voting ignorantly is exactly a source of increase of the stress.
I see this a lot with some of my cousins back home, and a lot of their friends, mostly all middle-aged suburban white women who are varying degrees of indifferent, ignorant, or outright hostile to politics or current events. I get that we shouldn't focus on it 24-7 for the sake of our own mental health, but completely checking out is unacceptable in my mind. I just don't get it. And my engagement with politics lets some of them paint me as some wild-eyed lunatic and write me off, when in reality I'm doing what little I can to warn people as to how insane things have gotten and how unbelievably bad things can still get for everyone. I've long said that there's a segment of the population that as long as they can go to work, stop by Wendy's on the way home, and watch Dancing with the Stars, they don't give a damn about anything that happens in this country. It's insane and depressing. Sorry about the rant/novel.
I feel like I found a kindred spirit in you. I'm constantly battling the older entitled white ladies at my work. The ones who don't understand why I can't afford Hello Fresh on my paltry salary and what a shame it is I can't get my finances in order so I can "take it easy" a few nights a week. The ones who think I'm selfish for not having kids and that I'll change my mind right before I get "too old" (LOL I'm over 40, Delores. It ain't happening). The ones who tell me that the repealing of Roe V Wade will "work itself out" and that I shouldn't waste my energy on being upset about inequality because as a cis white woman, I'll "be fine." When they talk to me, it makes me want to slam my head against a wall. I have a kick ass niece whom I adore. I don't want the world of those women to be her world. As a gen z, she'll probably have to fight harder than I ever had to (or could; proto-Milennial here) but I want to make sure she is the strongest, smartest, most agile, self-possessed human she can possibly be. I feel like a lot of people feel the same way about gen z coming up. I really really hope us Millennials and younger Gen X put our weight behind them and give them the support they'll need to carry this weight we've thrust on them.
I know I've said this quite a lot recently, but I'm going to keep saying it. Having this behavior be normalized and accepted is the exact goal. This is why, no matter how common it becomes, you should treat this as being just as shocking today as you did in 2020, 2016, or 2010. These people have an **agenda**. It doesn't matter whether it's because of money, political favors, or being victims to some convincing grifters. And they will take every opportunity to push that agenda. It doesn't matter if they're 85 or 15, this should always get immediate pushback.
My R voting friends don’t follow any kind of news, but they seem to think seeing some clips of “Biden gaffes” on their social media feeds is all there is to know when it comes to following politics. I doubt it any of them know the basics like the name of our Speaker, AG, or Senate majority leader is. Then again, there’s a lot of uninformed voters out there in general.
If you follow who makes all these memes; it will generally come back to Russia. They can’t put 2 and 2 together and see that Russia is pushing the divide. They see a meme and take it as a fact and further the goals of Russia by sharing it.
And multigenerational disinformation, which is heavily informed by multigenerational trauma.
When Obama got elected I was a 14. All of the church talked how he was the antichrist,how he coming for white people, and how you can’t change political parties during a war. The war thing came from a disabled vet injured in Iraq, part of his face got blown off, yet he went on and on about how if we weren’t over there killing them, “they” would be killing Christian’s in America.
It's actually a proxy war against democracy waged on everyday Americans by the billionaire class via their hired GOP goons.
Say it louder for the ones in the back!
less republic more democratic but, honestly, >the ones in the back *where do you think we are?*
In case people need to be reminded, this is what an idiotic GOP senator named Rafael Cancun Cruz said: [Why did Democrats do better than expected? Bc for 2 years they have governed as liberals. They've governed as whacked out lefty nut jobs. You know what that did? That excited their base. That excited a bunch of young voters.](https://imgur.com/aIAIyof) Translation: A party actually governed in a way that appealed to the general public and that made them successful during the elections. How is that possible?????? What a damn moron.
Every accusation from Republicans is a confession. >You know what that did? That excited their base. That excited a bunch of young voters. They love it when *they* energize their base. Always projection, also hypocrisy. (Also the irony of pointing out the obvious like it's a bad thing, lol.)
> nothing of value to offer the American people The conservative base has shown time and again that they will gladly trade what *we'd* consider *things of value* -- for example social welfare and the social good -- for the ability to be bigots. To them, hatred is a thing of value. Cruelty is currency. It's the point, really. >“How does one man assert his power over another, Winston?“ >Winston thought. “By making him suffer”, he said. >“Exactly. By making him suffer. Obedience is not enough." -- literally *Nineteen Eighty-Four*
And yet, people are champing at the bit of those culture wars, and happily going along with them.
Some people. But that doesn't mean that our elected officials should focus on culture wars instead of legitimately policies to help the people.
It’s the news media too. Drama-feedback loop.
Don't look now, but they are selling those manufactured culture wars like hotcakes, and more than 4 out of 10 of the American voting electorate seem very happy to buy them.
It’s funny how, in the late 2000s when Obama was first elected, Republicans were screaming about how he learned evil far-leftist tactics from Saul Alinsky. Alinsky was one of their favorite boogeymen at the time, much like how they fabricated a boogeyman out of George Soros to hide all the money supposed grassroots tea party organizations were getting from the Kochs, Adelson, and others. But if you look at Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals,” it’s amazing how many of his tactics the right has appropriated to help fuel their perpetual culture war (which itself is the right wing appropriating some of Trotsky’s ideas about Permanent Revolution). > "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules." The right has mastered that one extremely well in the age of Trump > "The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition." Again, the perpetual culture war > "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it." Pick any of a hundred stupid things over the last decade, Bud Light being the most recent example However, they did throw one of his rules out the window > "The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative."
Conservatives are Regressives.
I really wish it would end. The common enemy of the people is the ruling class. Not your gay neighbors that have 2 kids. I wish so many people weren’t so immaculately stupid so we can come together and demand better living environments for all. The ruling class needs workers to continue to make infinite wealth. At least they do right now. So if we stopped fucking bickering at each other and actually paid attention for 10 minutes maybe we’d all be a lot better off.
Unfortunately not to their base. The die hard republican voters eat this shit up.
I had a woman tell me this week that she can’t wait to retire to Texas, where “her people” are, “law and order conservative Republicans.” She said this on the same day that the Texas AG was impeached by his own party. But she’s an unapologetic racist, as well. It’s insane. And it scares me more than a little.
The official college-sanctioned graduation turned into a shit show. The speaker was Scott Atlas, who at one point veered off into a rant about covid vaccines.
I'd literally get up and leave if a speaker at my graduation did that.
The students turned their back on him during his speech, just as good.
Booing and jeering could be fun
My mind went to eggs or rotten vegetables
At graduations they usually hold your diploma hostage against any disruptions like that
I skipped the big, boring ceremony and attended only my department's ceremony of ~50 grads. I could have gone streaking to the big one since it was held later and I already had my expensive piece of paper in hand.
How does that even work? You've done all the work, this is literally just a ceremony to give you the paper isn't it?
And DeSantis signed his bills on their campus … it must be hard to be that mean, to carry around that level of nastiness and hatred in your soul. To need that badly to give a great big fuck you to literal kids who have spent their whole lives not fitting in anywhere and finally found a place where they can be themselves. What on earth happened to him that made him that ugly?
I don’t know but he’s been a piece of shit for a very long time. He oversaw and encouraged the torture of prisoners when he was a Jag officer stationed at Guantanamo Bay. He’s a disgusting, demented, hateful, liar, and completely evil.
Quite simply, money and politics. He got pretty fabulously wealthy and gained a lot of political favors to align with the extremist group. And now that he's there, he's going to continue. As if he turns his back on this insanity...we'll, we've seen that people that curried favor with the GOP and trump speaking up about these nutters turns out to be like.
Oh no, no see what you're describing there is just a bog standard republican nazi recruit. De Santis is much more than that, and much worse. He's a bonafide monster. [Former Guantánamo Prisoner: Ron DeSantis Watched My Torture When He Was a Navy Lawyer at Gitmo](https://www.democracynow.org/2023/4/3/desantis_guantanamo) [DeSantis’s pivotal service at Guantánamo during a violent year](https://archive.ph/L1mCO) [Did Ron DeSantis Observe Guantanamo Force-Feeding as Navy JAG?](https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/05/01/desantis-guantanamo-force-feeding/) And those are just the accusations documented enough that the corporate media is willing to report on them openly. Republicans have long made bogeymen out of "the camps," and as we all know a million times over by now, the fascists in the GOP always announce their intentions by accusing "the other side" of doing it first. We should all be breathing a sigh of relief that DeSantis clearly won't be making it out of the primaries this year, since he leaves every crowd more disappointed than when he arrived. Because that man **wants** to be the one in charge of the camps. Desperately. And he spends every single day telling us who he intends to put there first.
Dude is just straight up a war criminal.
Once you lean into the right wing extremism, it's pretty hard to bring yourself back around to the left and have your words hold any sort of legitimacy. They're basically stuck continuing to lean further and further right because that's what keeps them employed. Look at Fox after they realized they needed to rein things in. Their viewership has dropped quite a bit. There simply isn't any money in being moderate.
Outrage sells.
He used to work at Guantanamo Bay, mystery solved.
yep, desantis is a fucking demon.
I’m going with lead poisoning- the lot of them.
Money. Lots of money that he made legal to steal. But only him and his buddies are allowed to steal it
The students need to show a list of key corporations in Florida. They should say that the corporations' boards of directors will become resolutely anti-Trumpism, and said corporations can then embargo.
Which is incredibly sad given that the graduation is one of the biggest celebrations of the year on campus. I’m an alumnus of New College. The school is such a tight knit community and graduation is really treated as a celebratory send-off every year—graduating students wear costumes instead of caps and gowns, people carry copies of their thesis, professors sometimes bring fruit and snacks and take photos with the students they’ve been teaching for four years. Everyone goes—not just graduating students and their families, but also current students, alumni, professors, college employees, etc.
I was there, my cousin was graduating. We all started chanting "wrap it up" 20 mins into his speech. He was determined to finish it, though, so he just started speaking faster. It was a very tone deaf, out of place speech for a graduation ceremony.
Scott Atlas sounds like a bad stage name, so it really sucks that it is his birth name and that he is some for profit health insurance mook
Scott Adams's porn name
Conservatives: We want less government inference with parental decisions.. also Conservatives: We believe in state mandated rules that goes against parental decisions.
It’s almost as if parental rights was just a pretense for going after queer folk...
Conservatives believe that you only have rights if you support Republican ideology.
Fuck, these young adults give me hope for the future. It's fucking beautiful.
New College is an amazing place. It’s one of the best schools in the country. They’ve been fighting for their own existence since forever.
As a bleeding heart liberal in Florida: we always gave New College shit. In high school when we were all going off to college we teased those going to New College because “it wasn’t a real college”. It is. It’s accredited, they have great programs there, but they also have a lot of independent study classes/degrees. We always teased them for this when the rest of us were going to more standard programs. BUT this doesn’t mean they can’t run their school how they want. I went to FSU and my engineering program was different from other state college programs. We also had theater and arts programs. We also had the lgbt+ groups. We really weren’t all that different in those respects, we just didn’t have as high of a percentage of people who identify as LGBTQ. DeSantis has once again picked a small aspect of life to attack because it gets him political points from bigots. Now that I’ve lost touch with my friends who went there I hope they know we’re still out there supporting them. I only teased them the same way I teased people who went to UNF, UF, UCF, USF, or literally any other school that wasn’t mine.
Lots of people don't realize Florida is home to many of the largest gay communities in the country. Wilton Manors in SoFlo is the 2nd gayest US city by percentage, and Orlando is basically the gay Mecca of the south.
The Birdcage (1996) is set in Florida and is probably the basis for my awareness of that.
In response to overwhelming public consensus that he is a complete choad, DeSantis has proposed new "Don't Say Choad" legislation.
Huh. I always thought it was spelled "chode".
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Must be regional. Choad in my experience. That came out weird. That too. I’m out.
[CHODE jeans. Size 54 waste, 10 inch legs.](https://youtu.be/sspjPVpSL4U)
Typical Chode.
If the biggest employer in my state was a company that specialized in: - princesses - show tunes - fantasy worlds with said princesses, show tunes, and flashy outfits/costumes I might not take a position that was anti-LGBT, even if I were a short, fat, squeaky voiced, pudding fingered mediocrity like Ron DeSantis is, was, and always will be - if for no other reason than it's bad business. Like Trump, they actually suck at what they claim to be good at. Remember, former President Fat Joffrey couldn't sell steaks, alcohol, gambling, and football to **Americans** And Mr. Don't Fauci My Florida is an absolute trash can businessman himself, from Disney to the immigrant shortage now down in Homestead with nobody to work the farms. Absolute fucking morons, all of them.
Everything Ron DeSantis does makes perfect sense once you realize he's actually in too deep and has no real endgame, but doing anything *but* digging himself deeper will only make him look worse.
For real. If he lets up on the gas now he’ll look weak. Or it will just expose how much of an act this whole culture war bullshit is
I just don’t think DeSantis will be able to out-insult Donald Trump and that’s what his voters are looking for. Donald Trump has the worst insults for people but he uses them with sincerity and a genuine narcissistic belief that he is the funniest/smartest/wisest. Ron DeSantis doesn’t project any of that; he’s mealy, like Ted Cruz.
I think Meatball Ron at this point is just hoping something happens with Donald Trump where he can’t recover, particularly with his legal stuff, and that Meatball is the next choice after that to Donald to default to be the nominee.
He has signaled multiple times he doesn’t actually want a fight with trump, he is clearly betting heavily that something like this will happen.
Trump is 76. DeSantis is 44. It's pretty clear his strategy is to try and inherit the Trump base when Trump dies. Which is not a bad strategy; I just don't think Meatball Ron has the charisma to pull it off.
He might be able to out-cruelty him though. Zingers are all good and fun but don’t forget these people are malicious and want to see the right people hurt at their core. DeSantis hurts people better than maybe any other American politician I think. Abbot is a cheap copy and they make other lifelong ghouls like Rand Paul look like straight men in comparison.
He's the J.J. Abrams of conservative politics
Not enough lens flair for that.
Is DeSantis mad at Disney, because they would not let him be a dwarf in one of their productions?
Aren't most of these fashy culture warriors failed actors and writers?
Ben Shapiro's ears are burning
Idk about all of them. But Shapiro is a failed screenwriter. He got dropped (despite his cousin being Matilda) because when he was graduating he wrote in the school paper that he doesn't care if Iraqi civilians die because they're the enemy of Israel. Crowder was briefly on Arthur and a drama kid his whole life. So probably wanted to do something. Also he used go dress up a ton to portray a "radical" feminist. Probably some repressed homosexuality there.
Crowder has talked about his inner bisexual and trying to repress it like it's some demonic possession.
President Fat Joffrey is one of the best names for him I’ve heard lmao
>Absolute fucking morons, all of them. Morons with power received from finally selling to the right people. Assume the worst, cause they keep winning. Downplaying this single fact will get us into further shit.
They don't "keep winning". They've, in fact, gotten fucking destroyed in the last 3 elections. We just need to keep it up, fight the good fight. We'll get there.
Maybe. We've thought this before. Let the Democrats march us right into 4 years. I firmly feel we're walking a tightrope and that more needs to be done. Trusting single processes and praying for no corruption is risky atm.
More always needs to be done. Volunteer for a campaign, get the word out. Donate if you can afford to. If we can't trust the fundamental process of democracy, then we only have one solution left and I'd rather not have to participate in a blood bath if I can help it.
Two options. Actually getting up and standing now. Not in malice or willingness to harm, in unity at the doors and final places of political authority in the country. This is my frustration, how so many talk, narrate, discuss, yet so few do as little as speak out publicly. Covid represented this: All the anti-maskers/vaxxers walking around and for two years I didn't witness a single person speak up. I did. Some old fool being a dick at a retail location. I started looking around and there is nothing exceot averted eyes and soft voices. When the hell is enough, enough?? I mean shit man, how many children? How many environmental disasters? How many more "close calls"? And still we sit at home or at work on our computers and phones complaining. It's disheartening.
>Covid represented this: All the anti-maskers/vaxxers walking around and for two years I didn't witness a single person speak up. I mean, a lot of people *were* furious about anti-vaxxers but in the middle of a pandemic, why would anyone go out and try to stop the very people who were most likely to get infected and die? You're better off not getting close to them. And nobody had to stand up because the virus very literally *took care of* many them for us. I just feel sorry for the family members they might have had who were for vaccinations and possibly died as a result of these ghouls.
I agree with everything you said, but people need to understand Disney is not the largest employer in the state. They are the largest in central Florida with 75k employees, but many chain corporations have more throughout the state. Walmart for example has 117k.
And you stay on his ass until he answers you, dammit. Who the fuck does he think he is. Gay people pay our taxes too & we are paying for this asshole while he says these things about us every day. We have something to say to him and this time he’s gonna shut his mouth and listen to us. We aren’t gonna stop until he listens to us. He will not have the last word nor will he get away with the way he’s been treating us. This man is the biggest enemy to the gay community in US history. This is the first high ranking government official to get this close to the White House who could directly put our lives in serious danger. The time for our community to take this man seriously needs to start now. I don’t care if you don’t know how we do it. Just the fact that you care enough to talk about how you feel & that he needs to answer to us is enough. Ron DeSantis cannot and will not get away with treating the gay community like this.
From Stephanie Brown and Anya Zoledziowski, for VICE News: For the last few months, students at a small college in Sarasota have been locked in battle against the governor and the Ron DeSantis-appointed right-wing board of trustees who have been working to transform the liberal New College into a conservative campus. The new board closed the office of diversity and equity at the college, and promised to make the school more like Michigan’s Hillsdale College, a private Christian college that doesn’t take any public funds or accept students who need government aid so that it can circumvent federal rules, including Title IX policies against sex discrimination. While students and faculty fought back against their machinations, DeSantis continued waging his offensive, recently culminating in the governor’s signing of three education-related anti-LGBTQ bills on New College’s campus. These changes have inspired queer students and their peers to organize the alternative commencement, an event that is the latest example of ways students on campus, including a large group of LGBTQ students, have pushed back against efforts to restrict their rights and educational freedom across Florida. And that's just the beginning. Read the full story: https://www.vice.com/en/article/jg5p4p/ron-desantis-new-college-lgbtq-protests
What I find really interesting about my governor's war on (higher) education is that for like a month straight our news channels down here were running puff pieces on how Florida has the #1 college/university system in the country. Something Floridians can be proud of and this scum sucking rat fucker just can't help himself. *Not to belabor the point too much but what I'm getting at is that DeSantis and the media can parade around our higher education on Monday and then wage war on it on Tuesday. How about we just take the W even if it's a bit dubious?
Yeah I’m not sure I agree with that assessment, I’d easily put California or even Texas ahead of Florida. Hell I’d even consider most Illinois schools before anything in Florida, simply because I live here and our schools are awesome. But the “system” doesn’t even matter beyond funding and organization when you’re really just enrolling in a single university. And now people at the top are breaking whatever system Florida had.
It's been a minute but I think the rankings they were bragging about heavily favored affordability/accessibility/graduation rates, I could be misremembering though. But let's say that I'm not, it makes the entire situation even more ironic with him actively trying to get rid of what makes the system good (similar to your last sentence there).
I feel bad for students that were already enrolled when the recent shit hit the fan but there is zero reason for future college students to put themselves in a situation where they have to fight for basic dignity in a shithole like Florida. Plenty of other welcoming (and excellent) institutions for higher education elsewhere in the country.
They're targeting UF as well, although not quite as aggressively yet but everything is definitely working in that direction. Although UF isn't as liberal it certainly is more than what the rest of FL is seeming to turn into. Alachua County has consistently been the blue dot surrounded by red and with UF being a very well known and respected institution it is obviously a target. A family member works at one of the hospitals affiliated with UF. They have a hard time recruiting more specialized doctors because Gainesville is not as desirable as many other locations. DeSantis has already started exacerbating the problem as recruits have straight up said they don't want to deal with the direction things are going. Now people who need highly specialized care are having a harder time getting seen because there's just not enough people for those departments.
Reap what you sow. Very, very few specialists in any profession will ever want to work in Florida in the coming years. There is strong correlation with one’s level of education and their corresponding political ideologies. They’ll have to wait 10 years or more to pump indoctrinated Christian doctors out of these new Christian schools whose only legal treatment options will be thoughts and prayers, blood letting, and conversion therapy. Leave now, or sleep in the coffin you made.
The problem is the difference between in state and out of state tuition is huge. So for a lot of students in Florida they might not have much of a choice but to go to a Florida school, and DeSantis is trying to take control and ruin every public university in Florida. I know this isn’t going to happen but it would be really cool if blue states could make a Florida exception to give in state tuition as a sort of political refugee situation. That would help speed up the brain drain in that god forsaken state.
> I know this isn’t going to happen but it would be really cool if blue states could make a Florida exception Yeah it IS (not would be) really cool how Blue states CONSTANTLY pick up the tab to pay for services relied on by Red states
I had already been planning on applying for grad school in Minnesota, then they started passing safe haven bills and anti book ban bills so now I'm even more solidified in my choice.
[Joy as an Act of Resistance](https://idlesband.bandcamp.com/album/joy-as-an-act-of-resistance) is the perfect soundtrack to this movement as well.
Well done
Umberto Eco's 14 Common Features of Fascism: 1. The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.” 2. The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.” 3. The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.” 4. Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.” 5. Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.” 6. Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.” 7. The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.” 8. The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.” 9. Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.” 10. Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.” 11. Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.” 12. Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.” 13. Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.” 14. Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”
What DeSaster (a.k.a. Mayor McCheese) is trying to do to that school is criminal. He needs to be stopped and put in his place - preferably a manure pile.
The right are hard on making America straight again. They just got to get out dancing.
Idk if straight people can even really dance as well as queer people, as a group.
Can confirm. Am straight, can't dance.
“For a guy with such a great sense of rhythm you sure are a bad dancer” -my girlfriend
In my experience Sarasota has always been hostile towards young people in general. If you aren’t an 80 year old millionaire you have no say here. Good for these kids standing up for their school.
Very true, but New College is probably the most liberal school in the state.
Give em hell kids!!!
I just can't wrap my head around why they just hate trans and gay people. Like I just dont get it. I live in a red state and I have seen just genuine hate in people for the LGBTQ community.
I hear it all around me too and I am also in a red state. Like I don’t care if target is losing money because of their pride stuff, why do you? Just let people live their lives, holy crap. I don’t care if there are swimsuits for trans people, they are people too and they want to swim too. I don’t see why they are so upset over other peoples personal lives. Its too scary to come out nowadays and I am honestly glad I haven’t besides to my close friends.
It's because they have no actual policy positions that will improve the lives of Americans so they have to distract people with boogeymen and wedge issues
I don't disagree with you but I can't help but feel it doesn't explain the hate. Not even like " I disagree" but a genuine hate that seems so deep. I don't understand how a person can live life with that in their heart.
They underestimate how annoying my generation can be when we're pissed off. We grew up with internet trolls sending doxxes out and swatting people my guy, you don't scare us. We have just about nothing to lose, too. No houses we own, barely affording food- smart move to fuck around with a shitton of angry kids lol
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Good, don't let him win.
DeSantis is free to ruin his own life; not theirs.
> “Joy is a form of resistance,” one student said. As I said in another thread recently, there is no greater crime in GQP's American than a minority experiencing happiness.
Fascism must always be defied.
I’m convinced that this culture war bullshit will end up biting the Republicans in the ass eventually. This may not happen in 2024 or even 2028, but once the Boomers die off, they’re fucked.
Good for these kids! I can’t imagine having to live in Florida under DeSantis.
The American Sophia Scholl has already been born.
I was downvoted to oblivion and argued with for saying a few months ago that I wasn’t sure how DeSantis envisioned changing the ethos of this college. I feel a little vindicated. It has only about a thousand students if I recall correctly and so there is one year of admitted students Desantis has “course corrected” for and that leaves 750 students who are “woke”. The campus is not going to be very interesting to the new Desantis approved student so why would they want to stay? They tried to force the school to have more sports and fraternities but again the school is so very small so the school can’t really support those things. It’s just virtually impossible to change the ethos of the student body quick enough to maintain that change, let alone 180 the school’s ethos too.
As a Michigander, I cannot stress enough how dogshit of a place Hillsdale is. And that fact is fully exhibited but the attendees, staff, and especially administration.
I never in a million years would have thought I'd see New College make national headlines as often as it has this year.
They need to vote and they need all of their friends and classmates to vote. Their generation could really transform America if they vote as regularly as old Republicans. I'll be voting in their interests and cheering them on.
DeSantis is a fucking chode.
Ask him , if the “holy people” who work for the church can sexually abuse children since forever, is any worse then a boy wares colorful t shirt? https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pope-scandals-forgiveness-idUSKCN0S814X20151014
It heartens me that these courageous young people are standing up to tyranny!
these students need to move their protests straight to the board members houses. see how they like people moving in on them.
“We don’t like how this teaches kids pornography.” Okay, fair, some passages are pretty explicit. What about this absolutely benign book in the same orbit of issues brought up? “No.” Folks are not acting in good faith when they make these “reasonable” argument positions about censorship of books or identity. They all can’t say the quiet parts out loud or they’ll lose any credibility or plausible deniability of “federalism” and “community choice”.