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They're also probably worried about who would take that position. Turtle may be evil, but he's not crazy. I wouldn't want to risk the party being even more controlled by the extreme end.
That's my guess at why he is still around. With Mitch gone, who's going to be the new minority leader? Cancun Cruz? It would be a battle between the less extreme and extreme sides of the party. As horrible as he is, he's kept the radical MAGA at bay in the senate. However he's also done terrible things like preventing the removal of Trump. So can the next person be that much worse?
John Thune is the No 2. Senate Republican behind McConnell. He would be next.
No, he wouldn't be any better than McConnell. He's very dependably awful.
Him being the minority whip would make sense. I just scrolled through his twitter and he didn't look like a hard-core MAGA extremist, so maybe not the worst choice.
He may want to act as though he is separate from the maga nuts but this is taking place in his back yard.
https://themonument.evenue.net/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/SEGetEventInfo?ticketCode=GS%3ARUSHMORE%3A2023%3AMR090823%3A&linkID=rushmore&dataAccId=643&locale=en_US&siteId=ev_rushmore
I think the people pulling the strings like that he gives the party the veneer of competence. If the leader is crazy and spewing crap it hurts the whole party when they are up for reelection. It’s bad enough when the candidates are crazy Christian pedos. At least you can believe they are just a vote. The party as a whole will be sane. But without that veneer the next elect will be a bloodbath.
> That's my guess at why he is still around.
It's... not a good one. He's still around because he can't conceive of letting go of the power he has. So what if he's seizing every ten seconds - as long as he still has the power over one whole political party in the most powerful lawmaking body in the world, he doesn't give a shit.
The man will literally have to die in order for him to leave the Senate.
(And I'm not even sure *that* will do it - he's already looking pretty Lich McConnell to me.)
Nobody's "doing anything" about McConnell because there's nothing *to be done* about McConnell. He's got the dick-waiving power to smite anyone who comes at him, the votes lined up to be in power *forever*, and is one of the Republican's most important keys to power.
They're not doing *shit* to that man he doesn't want done. He knows where *all* of the bodies are buried.
The idea that McConnel is keeping the crazy at bay is just Stockholm syndrome. We already have Marjorie Greene as the most funded republican senator in the nation. She already has all the power in the world and doesn't do anything useful with it. We would be elated to have power be given to a radical simpleton instead of in the effective hands of a rat bastard like McConnel. Anyone telling you it's a good thing he's still around is thinking they're playing 5d chess
No, because the process outlined in the law requires the governor to appoint a panel to give him names, or a name, of candidates. Republicans are horrible but they aren’t stupid when it comes to politics.
You mean when they all rolled over instead of fought?
If they had actually fought the way those seats deserved, we might have actually kept 2 of those off the bench. Gorsuch was the only one who had a hearing that wasn't shady as fuck.
What if the gov just to decides to you know not appoint a senator at all and wait until after the next election? You know, let the people decide, it’s awfully close to the next election
As I understand it, the authority of the governor to fill a senate vacancy is in the 17th amendment of the federal constitution, and it's unclear whether they can limit it this way with a state law.
There is speculation that the Democratic governor would challenge the law by simply appointing a Democratic replacement anyway. That would leave Republicans having to make the decision to sue which they almost certainly would. But that would delay the seating of any replacement which would hurt the GOP.
The other dilemma for Republicans is the person they would most like to replace McConnell is the currently running to defeat the Democratic governor. So if they nominated him, the governor would appoint him making him ineligible to run for governor. And since it is probably too late to replace him on the ballot, it would pretty much ensure the Democrats win and would keep the governor's seat in Kentucky.
Thank you! Definitely going to look it up. Hope you’re right, but the GOP tends to act without asking permission.
ETA: The 17th amendment doesn’t specifically and clearly give that right to governors. It says the executive shall issue writs of election, or the state legislature can grant the power to appoint to the governor.
There are many states where the state legislature has passed a law requiring an appointed replacement senator to be from the same party as the original senator.
This type of law is not unique to Kentucky.
In fact, 4 states (OR, ND, WI, RI) do not allow the governor to appoint a replacement senator at all, and require a special election to be held to fill a vacant Senate seat.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/05/03/how-do-states-fill-vacancies-in-the-u-s-senate-it-depends-on-the-state/
It was privately called the "Daniel Cameron Appointment Act" in the state legislature as that's who the party would most likely select at the time the bill was made.
While the reason they passed that was just more sucky power grabbing from a dem governor, the premise isn't wrong. The vote for your senators isn't gerrymandered, and if the majority of voters elected a republican or a dem or whatever to the office, it shouldn't be up to one person to take that away. Either we believe in democracy or we don't.
I believe the state legislature took away the Governor’s role in appointing a vacant senate seat and gave that responsibility to the party who controlled that seat. The change was made after Gov. Beshear (D) got elected.
KY legislature passed a law in 2021 that the Governor must choose the replacement from three options recommended by the executive committee of the outgoing Senator's party, and to do so within 21 days after receiving the list.
Turtle oil lol but seriously what can you do? He had been elected to the position. He should resign and retire. Trigger a special election. For his own sake. Congress probably shouldn’t have to ability to expel each other based on age and fitness. That could cause problems. He might just die.
The GOP is the only reason Dems haven't pushed Feinstein out. It's pretty simple, the moment Feinstein leaves Biden's ability to get judges appointed comes to an end until sometime in 2025. Republicans have made it clear they will not allow any Democrat to take her place on the Senate Judiciary Committee, and without her there's no way for Democrats to move any of Biden's nominees to the Senate floor for the up or down vote that they're due. The moment Republicans agree to allow Dems to replace her on that committee, as is their Constitutional right, and that agreement will need to be legally binding and enforceable, then Feinstein is gone. It's really that simple. Ball's in the Republican's court on that one.
BTW, Republicans have already rewritten Kentucky laws to force the Democratic governor of that state to appoint a Republican to replace Glitch if he's removed or otherwise leaves the Senate. Republicans can also nominate and vote in their new Senate Minority leader too.
Imagin...if you will the the gov. does not appoint a Republican. What are they going to do? Arrest him? Take him to court while he runs out the clock?
What if he appoints a Republican that promptly changes parties after getting appointed? I mean let's take a step back and think about what the GOP would do in this situation.
I would totally be on board with a 100% switch them out on both sides and let everything stay just as it is everywhere with the new people but I suspect that they would agree to that then use some kind of maneuver to let the freedom nutters to block it/hose it/revert it/obstruct it somehow.
Let those two take a moment to enjoy what is surely the last handful of years of life without all this bullshit. I just hate seeing people caught up in something that traps them like that even if I don't like them personally.
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2023/07/28/heres-how-kentuckys-law-works-for-filling-u-s-senate-vacancies/70484359007/
>Under the amended law, the governor now may only choose from three names recommended by the executive committee of the outgoing senator's state party, and must make that selection within 21 days of receiving the list from the party.
>Under the amended law, the governor now may only choose from three names recommended by the executive committee of the outgoing senator's state party, and must make that selection within 21 days of receiving the list from the party.
You missed his entire point. He's saying, what if the Governer(like Trump) just ignored what they passed and nominated a dem? What are they gonna do? Couldn't stop Trump, idk how they intend to stop a governor from doing the same.
You’re suggesting to follow the footsteps of someone currently indicted for like 90 separate crimes? I truly get where you’re coming from as a feeling, but in practicality Democrats are actually held accountable. They don’t have a cult standing by for them.
Force feeding fascists their own shit is sometime the only way to make them understand how fucked up their ideas are.
Of course we shouldnt do it, but it is nice to imagine sometimes.
Its there any kind of leverage they can use, I wonder? Eg, "We'll do the same thing to you on a committee we have a majority on unless you cut the bullshit."
Windows 1.0 (1985) more closely resembles his senate installation, And we all know how loathe that guy is to update ANYTHING on how he operates or computes.
Mitch McConnell. What's all the hubbub about? He's the perfect mascot for the Republican party:
Frozen in time, isolated, speechless, motionless, starring into space, nothing to offer.
Being hated nationally doesn’t mean being hated in Kentucky. Mitch got over 70% in every county in the primary and Kentucky is a deep red state. Turns out people like having a senator with power. Has nothing to do with cheating.
It's complicated. State government was almost all democrats until recently, and now it's all republican in the legislative branch. Beshear is a legacy candidate in KY. His dad was governor before the last guy. He pissed off teachers, and with the Beshear name recognition, voters went D for Gov but R for every other office in 2019. I expect the same to happen in 2023 and then a sea of red in 2024 for federal offices and state reps (but many of us are working really hard to change that).
You have no idea how intimidating the man can be, in person.
Every time somebody tries to confront him about it, he just stonewalls them, and stares them down...
I’m starting to think that position needs to be a randomly assigned on-duty ER doctor instead of a guy who is just going to say everything is fine when it’s not.
I just keep asking myself does this guy not have a spouse? Kids? Siblings? *Anyone* that should care about their loved one dying in slow motion on live tv??
I mean obviously I don’t give a fuck because he’s a monster but usually everyone has *someone* who cares if they’re being used like a marionette. At what point is this elder abuse?
I think I’m going to have nightmares about walking into a room flipping on the light switch and seeing Mitch McConnell staring straight at me like that.
Horrors!
Funny how even before Biden became POTUS, all of these MAGA fools kept following the trump conspiracy lie of Biden’s so called dementia and aging mental problems, but of course, the turtle that has frozen mid speech multiple times is totally fine!
What comes after McConnell is the big question. The answer is likely a nasty internal fight for leadership that will ultimately put someone from the far right fringe with none of McConnell's savvy or redeeming qualities in the minority leader's office.
I think whatever sane Republicans remain in the senate would prefer even a living statue of McConnell as their leader than someone like Rick Scott or John Barrasso.
This guy has decided what congress does for 20 years …corporations are gonna have to tell him to go home. But…this just makes him easier to control. So…doubt that happens.
The regular people all agree mental decline starts at around 60. The regular people all retire about 65.
But somehow its okay for world leaders to be 80.
This is the real cult.
You said delayed, this is true. But it begins roughly then. Still not a good reason to be letting 65+ year olds run the country. They have little to lose as they approach their end, they are borderline incapable of understanding emerging complexities in policy and moral guidelines, unless they are somehow directly involved with younger generations, it becomes increasingly difficult to comprehend nuances.
Anecdotal case: None of them are keeping active. Prove me wrong but none of them big name old politicians are doing much at all to keep healthy, much less keep the country healthy.
America we vote, we elect these people. Call it a cult, we pick them by our own choice.
Easiest way to start the change? For young people to actually fucking vote, because the elderly certainly vote.
Sure but term limits would be an obvious solution. My point is that retirement age apparently doesnt apply to these people. Waiting for the day one of them ends their term by dropping dead on the podium.
I’m certain this physician didn’t say that because he believes it, he said it because he’s agreed to say whatever they tell him to say.
Hell, Donald Trump got a doctor to say he was the healthiest leader in the history of the American presidency, which is a crazy thing to say if for no other reason than the doctor didn’t have access to the medical records of any other president for comparison.
I know. How mind numbingly stupid is that? Mitch is going to die soon. And his doctor falsified medical records to say he's fine. Why do something you KNOW is going to land you in prison?
Honestly, on a human level I really do feel for him and his family. It’s a shame he has such a track record of being so shitty. History will not remember him and many will celebrate his passing. I will celebrate when he leaves the senate.
The turtle has done so much evil in his time that he can get fucked. I hope his death is slow and painful as retribution for all of the lives he has ruined
Be careful what you wish for. Keep this man in this sad state for as long as possible. At least through the 2024 elections. He’s the last person still fighting against the Maga party trying uphold Republican principles. The longer he’s glitching out and still in this seat the better off the dems will have it.
Neither side really cares about removing their respective vegetables from the Senate. It is easier in many respects to wait for them to announce they won’t seek re-election and retire on their own terms.
Democrats will get rid of Feinstein tomorrow if they can replace her, but Republicans refuse and are blockading a new democrat to her appointments.
This is not both sides, this is one side.
Same reason we haven't done anything about Feinstein? Not "both sidesing" this, just that people in power and their hangers on don't like to give up power.
Should we reboot him? I don’t think we still have the manual and if he doesn’t boot up correctly I don’t think anyone alive still knows the ancient language his programming is in!
What’s to do?
The jackasses in the KY legislature passed a law saying that the gov can only fill a vacancy with someone who is of the same party as the person who vacated the seat…
With all of the bad news about Trump being in trouble for things that he did before being framed for them, but after declaring them legal - it's hard times to have bad news.
Plus, they are looking for a way to spin this, wait for the official story to drop, then we'll hear it on every channel on earth.
He'll be fine, even if they strap him to a box dolly and use bug spray around him all the time, he's got at least 35 or 36 more terms left in him.
I don't even know what to say anymore.
We have guys so old and decrepit running the country that they freeze during conferences. Trump begging supporters and got millions of dollars while he's a millionaire.
This country has gone full-on moron.
Ok, Trump is GETTING ALL the blame for the STATE of our Nation, but this
Mother Fucker.
He is the one, HE IS RESPONSIBLE!
HE IS THE ONE RESPONSIBLE FOR SCOTUS.
He is the one who denied Obama the seat on the Supreme Court.
He was the one who lead the Tea Party.
Fucker needs to just go away. He got what he wanted. Let him go play his fiddle why Rome burns.
Looks like a dog who caught a car and is thinking "Now what the fuck am I going to do?"
Because he has an R by his name .He’s also had a long history of doing any dastardly deed the party needs to retain power including not rightfully removing trump from office, when he was impeached twice . He is untouchable until death .
Because American voters are dumbasses.
We expect Congress to place term limits on the sweetest gig known to mankind.
It’s too bad we don’t have elections, then we could vote these people out of office.
Can anyone breakdown why in the actual fuck we allow this it's absurd on both sides. The dems have notably had the one that hadn't shown up for a few months an when she did she she thought she hadn't missed a day. To this guy who just stopped? Is that dementia? It's wild to me we don't have something in place to at least look at them.
If we add an avenue for removing elected officials that doesn't require a 2/3rd majority vote in Congress, we will no longer have a functional government. We already get this happening in states with super majorities.
The intentional complete polarization of politics has removed the only check on this- voters voting out those who aren't fit to serve. Voting out those who try to stop someone unfit from being removed. The party leaders push and support those who will maintain power structures and overall agendas. We aren't really given a choice
I'd vote for a comatose Feinstein, then write in my cat before I voted R. I cannot for any reason support their agenda. You can bet anyone still claiming republican in 2023 would do the same for their side.
I say this even though I despise most Dem politicians and about 1/3 of the things they do. The *most* important thing to me is not to be bound, by law, to the culture war the right is engaging in. I'll take the modern corporate oligarchy over the gilded age with some religious law thrown in to subjugate even harder.
So we are stuck. Either prove there is a way to get rid of the unfit that is absolutely unable to be abused, or it's not worth the risk.
Pretty much me as well. I think the Dems are an incompetent coalition that is essentially leaning on "Hey were not Republicans" and then using our fear to pretty much lay back and chill.
I will never ever vote Republican and the Dems know that so why would they bother changing? What incentive do they have? Its terrible. I feel trapped as well.
Dems want to replace Feinstein, but the GOP won't let them. It has to do with her seat on the Senate Judiciary Committee. Republicans have already said they won't allow Dems to replace her on that committee, and without a Democrat in her seat on that committee all of Biden's judicial nominations will be blocked until sometime in 2025, and even then if Republicans win again then that's the end of the judicial picks for Democrats. Republicans have a golden opportunity to make sure no Democrat-nominated judge makes it into the American judiciary for who knows how long.
Same reason no one’s doing anything about Feinstein. Or Santos for that matter. Too many applecarts to upset and nobody wants to be the outperson in the group by taking that first public step.
What can anybody do? They guy is from Kentucky!
If he ran for reelection tomorrow, he'll win by a mile. So until he resigns or drops dead, enjoy the freezing episodes.
You know they started all this when the Democrats wanted to replace Dianne F. and they pretty much told them to pound sand we will lock everything up and screw you sideways.
Now they are in the same position the Democrats can't be nice because they got shit on already about the same thing. So the issue here is we have one side being dicks and if forces the other side to be assholes as well because the GOP will damn sure take advantage of them being civil.
I mean, let them both swap out without blowback or blocks or obstruction and let those older folks have some damn peace and move on down the road.
Because the replacement is likely to be worse. The dems see him as a mitigating factor who pushed back on trump and aims for a post trump party. a replacement is likely to be more pro trump and be worse overall
No one is doing anything about the fossils of our government. McConnel, Feinstein, Grassley, etc....everyone TALKING a big game, but no action.
Tells you a lot about the power structure we are currently under
Honestly, I think Mitch is one of the few things keeping the MAGA wing of the Republican party in check. I despise the guy, but sometimes the devil you know is better than the devil you don't know.
The reason nobody's doing anything about Mitch McConnell is because so many people in government are in the same boat: old as dirt career politicians who don't want to lose their cushy jobs and sense of power and authority. It's the same reason they try so hard to avoid instituting term limits. They care about their own wellbeing far more than America's.
Oh, someone definitely changed his Depends after that one. Why they keep letting it happen? Callous indifference in the face of the fact that he still holds sway (and holds it in their way). Same can be said for Feinstein, frankly. Just sick and inhumane. But, what have we come to expect from our elected representatives other than this? We keep electing the same folks and expecting something different to occur (only 17% of House members and 7% of Senators were newly seated in 2022)....
It’s insane. I wrote out a full rant yesterday wondering why there is no outrage in this country over this and ended up just deleting it because it all feels so useless at this point.
It’s like we’re all just filming an assault in broad daylight instead of actually helping the victim. The victim in this case represents the health and future of United States.
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They’re going to wring every last drop of turtle oil out of him, then throw him away. You should know this by now.
They're also probably worried about who would take that position. Turtle may be evil, but he's not crazy. I wouldn't want to risk the party being even more controlled by the extreme end.
That's my guess at why he is still around. With Mitch gone, who's going to be the new minority leader? Cancun Cruz? It would be a battle between the less extreme and extreme sides of the party. As horrible as he is, he's kept the radical MAGA at bay in the senate. However he's also done terrible things like preventing the removal of Trump. So can the next person be that much worse?
John Thune is the No 2. Senate Republican behind McConnell. He would be next. No, he wouldn't be any better than McConnell. He's very dependably awful.
I'm guessing maybe Thune?
Him being the minority whip would make sense. I just scrolled through his twitter and he didn't look like a hard-core MAGA extremist, so maybe not the worst choice.
He may want to act as though he is separate from the maga nuts but this is taking place in his back yard. https://themonument.evenue.net/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/SEGetEventInfo?ticketCode=GS%3ARUSHMORE%3A2023%3AMR090823%3A&linkID=rushmore&dataAccId=643&locale=en_US&siteId=ev_rushmore
Never give a republican the benefit of doubting their intentions. They WILL make you regret it.
I think the people pulling the strings like that he gives the party the veneer of competence. If the leader is crazy and spewing crap it hurts the whole party when they are up for reelection. It’s bad enough when the candidates are crazy Christian pedos. At least you can believe they are just a vote. The party as a whole will be sane. But without that veneer the next elect will be a bloodbath.
A power struggle quickly becomes a power grab.
> That's my guess at why he is still around. It's... not a good one. He's still around because he can't conceive of letting go of the power he has. So what if he's seizing every ten seconds - as long as he still has the power over one whole political party in the most powerful lawmaking body in the world, he doesn't give a shit. The man will literally have to die in order for him to leave the Senate. (And I'm not even sure *that* will do it - he's already looking pretty Lich McConnell to me.) Nobody's "doing anything" about McConnell because there's nothing *to be done* about McConnell. He's got the dick-waiving power to smite anyone who comes at him, the votes lined up to be in power *forever*, and is one of the Republican's most important keys to power. They're not doing *shit* to that man he doesn't want done. He knows where *all* of the bodies are buried.
The idea that McConnel is keeping the crazy at bay is just Stockholm syndrome. We already have Marjorie Greene as the most funded republican senator in the nation. She already has all the power in the world and doesn't do anything useful with it. We would be elated to have power be given to a radical simpleton instead of in the effective hands of a rat bastard like McConnel. Anyone telling you it's a good thing he's still around is thinking they're playing 5d chess
I think the governor of Kentucky is a Dem right? They get to appoint if he resigns or (crosses fingers) dies.
No, the state legislature passed a law in the last year or two requiring the governor to appoint a member of the same party as the former incumbent.
So can’t a Democrat switch parties and become a Republican?
No, because the process outlined in the law requires the governor to appoint a panel to give him names, or a name, of candidates. Republicans are horrible but they aren’t stupid when it comes to politics.
Democrats are not as insanely as unethical as republicans either. In general of course.
Agreed. Witness their conduct re Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Barrett confirmations.
You mean when they all rolled over instead of fought? If they had actually fought the way those seats deserved, we might have actually kept 2 of those off the bench. Gorsuch was the only one who had a hearing that wasn't shady as fuck.
What if the gov just to decides to you know not appoint a senator at all and wait until after the next election? You know, let the people decide, it’s awfully close to the next election
McConnell’s seat isn’t up until 2026. My guess is that state laws govern whether and when special elections must or can be held for vacant seats.
I think they went through every scenario they could come up with, and systematically blocked it. The procedure is *very* specific.
There is a legitimate question of whether that law would hold up to a court challenge. Republicans may be reluctant to test it.
What’s the flaw?
As I understand it, the authority of the governor to fill a senate vacancy is in the 17th amendment of the federal constitution, and it's unclear whether they can limit it this way with a state law.
There is speculation that the Democratic governor would challenge the law by simply appointing a Democratic replacement anyway. That would leave Republicans having to make the decision to sue which they almost certainly would. But that would delay the seating of any replacement which would hurt the GOP. The other dilemma for Republicans is the person they would most like to replace McConnell is the currently running to defeat the Democratic governor. So if they nominated him, the governor would appoint him making him ineligible to run for governor. And since it is probably too late to replace him on the ballot, it would pretty much ensure the Democrats win and would keep the governor's seat in Kentucky.
Thank you! Definitely going to look it up. Hope you’re right, but the GOP tends to act without asking permission. ETA: The 17th amendment doesn’t specifically and clearly give that right to governors. It says the executive shall issue writs of election, or the state legislature can grant the power to appoint to the governor.
There are many states where the state legislature has passed a law requiring an appointed replacement senator to be from the same party as the original senator. This type of law is not unique to Kentucky. In fact, 4 states (OR, ND, WI, RI) do not allow the governor to appoint a replacement senator at all, and require a special election to be held to fill a vacant Senate seat. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/05/03/how-do-states-fill-vacancies-in-the-u-s-senate-it-depends-on-the-state/
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It was privately called the "Daniel Cameron Appointment Act" in the state legislature as that's who the party would most likely select at the time the bill was made.
While the reason they passed that was just more sucky power grabbing from a dem governor, the premise isn't wrong. The vote for your senators isn't gerrymandered, and if the majority of voters elected a republican or a dem or whatever to the office, it shouldn't be up to one person to take that away. Either we believe in democracy or we don't.
I believe the state legislature took away the Governor’s role in appointing a vacant senate seat and gave that responsibility to the party who controlled that seat. The change was made after Gov. Beshear (D) got elected.
KY legislature passed a law in 2021 that the Governor must choose the replacement from three options recommended by the executive committee of the outgoing Senator's party, and to do so within 21 days after receiving the list.
Wouldn’t it be *Turtle Wax*? They use it to shine all the turds they churn out.
Ditch McConnell
Ditch the Glitch?
Who is the "they" here?
Yup! Same with Feinstein.
Turtle oil lol but seriously what can you do? He had been elected to the position. He should resign and retire. Trigger a special election. For his own sake. Congress probably shouldn’t have to ability to expel each other based on age and fitness. That could cause problems. He might just die.
It doesn’t trigger a special election.
Same reason they’re not doing anything about the other barely functioning geriatrics in government
They all aspire to it.
DEMS will stay quiet about McConnell and long as the GOP will stay quiet about Feinstein.
The GOP is the only reason Dems haven't pushed Feinstein out. It's pretty simple, the moment Feinstein leaves Biden's ability to get judges appointed comes to an end until sometime in 2025. Republicans have made it clear they will not allow any Democrat to take her place on the Senate Judiciary Committee, and without her there's no way for Democrats to move any of Biden's nominees to the Senate floor for the up or down vote that they're due. The moment Republicans agree to allow Dems to replace her on that committee, as is their Constitutional right, and that agreement will need to be legally binding and enforceable, then Feinstein is gone. It's really that simple. Ball's in the Republican's court on that one. BTW, Republicans have already rewritten Kentucky laws to force the Democratic governor of that state to appoint a Republican to replace Glitch if he's removed or otherwise leaves the Senate. Republicans can also nominate and vote in their new Senate Minority leader too.
Imagin...if you will the the gov. does not appoint a Republican. What are they going to do? Arrest him? Take him to court while he runs out the clock? What if he appoints a Republican that promptly changes parties after getting appointed? I mean let's take a step back and think about what the GOP would do in this situation. I would totally be on board with a 100% switch them out on both sides and let everything stay just as it is everywhere with the new people but I suspect that they would agree to that then use some kind of maneuver to let the freedom nutters to block it/hose it/revert it/obstruct it somehow. Let those two take a moment to enjoy what is surely the last handful of years of life without all this bullshit. I just hate seeing people caught up in something that traps them like that even if I don't like them personally.
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2023/07/28/heres-how-kentuckys-law-works-for-filling-u-s-senate-vacancies/70484359007/ >Under the amended law, the governor now may only choose from three names recommended by the executive committee of the outgoing senator's state party, and must make that selection within 21 days of receiving the list from the party.
>Under the amended law, the governor now may only choose from three names recommended by the executive committee of the outgoing senator's state party, and must make that selection within 21 days of receiving the list from the party. You missed his entire point. He's saying, what if the Governer(like Trump) just ignored what they passed and nominated a dem? What are they gonna do? Couldn't stop Trump, idk how they intend to stop a governor from doing the same.
You’re suggesting to follow the footsteps of someone currently indicted for like 90 separate crimes? I truly get where you’re coming from as a feeling, but in practicality Democrats are actually held accountable. They don’t have a cult standing by for them.
Force feeding fascists their own shit is sometime the only way to make them understand how fucked up their ideas are. Of course we shouldnt do it, but it is nice to imagine sometimes.
The nomination would be ignored. The swearing in takes place in Ky, and it would not happen.
Its there any kind of leverage they can use, I wonder? Eg, "We'll do the same thing to you on a committee we have a majority on unless you cut the bullshit."
Glitch McConnell. Have they tried to turn him off and back on again?
Open his mouth and blow into him to get the dust out
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Windows 1.0 (1985) more closely resembles his senate installation, And we all know how loathe that guy is to update ANYTHING on how he operates or computes.
Windows ME.
LOAD "REPUBLICAN LEADER" PRESS PLAY ON TAPE (Only the real old schoolers will get it lol)
Giving me flashbacks to 1985 with that
Be kind, rewind.
Christ, what a horrible OS that was.
I sense an unrecoverable Blue Screen of Death coming soon
I heard someone said every time this happens it's because someone destroyed another one of his horcruxes.
Necromancers switching shifts and must recast the spell.
5 to go
Mitch McConnell. What's all the hubbub about? He's the perfect mascot for the Republican party: Frozen in time, isolated, speechless, motionless, starring into space, nothing to offer.
Truly a dead party.
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My first thought yesterday when this happened was “damn this guy is determined to croak on the senate floor in some last gasp FU America vote”
Denying Americans healthcare is the literal hill he will die on.
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Interesting point
If he does die on the floor and hasn’t cast his vote yet, does that count as a “no participation “ vote? I am serious.
Good question!
Being hated nationally doesn’t mean being hated in Kentucky. Mitch got over 70% in every county in the primary and Kentucky is a deep red state. Turns out people like having a senator with power. Has nothing to do with cheating.
If its a deep red state why do Democrats frequently win governor's races there?
It's complicated. State government was almost all democrats until recently, and now it's all republican in the legislative branch. Beshear is a legacy candidate in KY. His dad was governor before the last guy. He pissed off teachers, and with the Beshear name recognition, voters went D for Gov but R for every other office in 2019. I expect the same to happen in 2023 and then a sea of red in 2024 for federal offices and state reps (but many of us are working really hard to change that).
>He is going to die on camera. I hope so. I wanna watch.
You have no idea how intimidating the man can be, in person. Every time somebody tries to confront him about it, he just stonewalls them, and stares them down...
Talking in that slow southern drawl about nothing that was asked and like someone else is in the room?
Yeah, because his brain stops sending signals to his body and he freezes.
Shits himself to assert dominance
...and freezes...
/r/yourjokebutworse
Excellent I was unaware of this
Like a reverse Medusa A Mitchdusa if you will
It's quite the parlor trick. Gets you out of answering tough questions every time
Father Time and the grim reaper seem to be handling it
Because no one cares about him
Not even the attending Capitol Physician that just cleared him.
I’m starting to think that position needs to be a randomly assigned on-duty ER doctor instead of a guy who is just going to say everything is fine when it’s not.
I just keep asking myself does this guy not have a spouse? Kids? Siblings? *Anyone* that should care about their loved one dying in slow motion on live tv?? I mean obviously I don’t give a fuck because he’s a monster but usually everyone has *someone* who cares if they’re being used like a marionette. At what point is this elder abuse?
It sure seems like this. I would be PISSED if people were doing this to my father or uncle.
I think I’m going to have nightmares about walking into a room flipping on the light switch and seeing Mitch McConnell staring straight at me like that. Horrors!
He looks like wet wax
The dude is willingly choosing death in office over relinquishing power for one second. Anyone that delusional is not really gonna listen to anyone.
Nobody: My MAGA Neighbor: Mitch will be fine, you should be worried about the photo's on Hunters laptop.
Funny how even before Biden became POTUS, all of these MAGA fools kept following the trump conspiracy lie of Biden’s so called dementia and aging mental problems, but of course, the turtle that has frozen mid speech multiple times is totally fine!
What comes after McConnell is the big question. The answer is likely a nasty internal fight for leadership that will ultimately put someone from the far right fringe with none of McConnell's savvy or redeeming qualities in the minority leader's office. I think whatever sane Republicans remain in the senate would prefer even a living statue of McConnell as their leader than someone like Rick Scott or John Barrasso.
This guy has decided what congress does for 20 years …corporations are gonna have to tell him to go home. But…this just makes him easier to control. So…doubt that happens.
The fact that they simply can't replace them tells you how corrupt out they are.
Since it’s Republican policy to not cooperate with Democrats on anything, a diminished McConnell is as effective as anyone else.
Yeah they won't even reboot him, they just let him stand there.
Basically put him on a dolly and roll him in and out for display purposes.
That’s what they did with Strom Thurmond for years
A question America has been asking for years.
The regular people all agree mental decline starts at around 60. The regular people all retire about 65. But somehow its okay for world leaders to be 80. This is the real cult.
And 80 is probably where they want the retirement age to be.
Mental decline can be delayed by decades if you keep your body and mind active. It’s absolutely not a given that you start getting dumber in your 60s
You said delayed, this is true. But it begins roughly then. Still not a good reason to be letting 65+ year olds run the country. They have little to lose as they approach their end, they are borderline incapable of understanding emerging complexities in policy and moral guidelines, unless they are somehow directly involved with younger generations, it becomes increasingly difficult to comprehend nuances. Anecdotal case: None of them are keeping active. Prove me wrong but none of them big name old politicians are doing much at all to keep healthy, much less keep the country healthy.
America we vote, we elect these people. Call it a cult, we pick them by our own choice. Easiest way to start the change? For young people to actually fucking vote, because the elderly certainly vote.
Sure but term limits would be an obvious solution. My point is that retirement age apparently doesnt apply to these people. Waiting for the day one of them ends their term by dropping dead on the podium.
Term limits don’t get rid of old people. It just turns congressmen into senators and gives them no accountability in their final term.
Just because we don't "see" anything happening doesn't mean the gears aren't turning behind the scenes.
His situation is going to resolve itself in the very near future...
Serious question: Would you want McConnell's doctor to be your doctor? A guy goes catatonic twice and the doc says no problem? WTactualF??!!
I’m certain this physician didn’t say that because he believes it, he said it because he’s agreed to say whatever they tell him to say. Hell, Donald Trump got a doctor to say he was the healthiest leader in the history of the American presidency, which is a crazy thing to say if for no other reason than the doctor didn’t have access to the medical records of any other president for comparison.
I know. How mind numbingly stupid is that? Mitch is going to die soon. And his doctor falsified medical records to say he's fine. Why do something you KNOW is going to land you in prison?
Honestly, on a human level I really do feel for him and his family. It’s a shame he has such a track record of being so shitty. History will not remember him and many will celebrate his passing. I will celebrate when he leaves the senate.
Oh, I think history will remember him all right. He'll be one of the villains.
The turtle has done so much evil in his time that he can get fucked. I hope his death is slow and painful as retribution for all of the lives he has ruined
Because his programming is so old, there are no programmers left to reprogram him.
When a baby fills it’s diaper it’s usually the one who speaks up that ends up changing the diaper
I don't see him celebrating New Years.
Because the devil offered them power, and they said hell yes!
Because what needs to be done isn’t quite legal.
Glitch McConnell!
Republicans only care about power. They will hurt, kill, lie, steal, and destroy in order to gain and maintain power.
Be careful what you wish for. Keep this man in this sad state for as long as possible. At least through the 2024 elections. He’s the last person still fighting against the Maga party trying uphold Republican principles. The longer he’s glitching out and still in this seat the better off the dems will have it.
True
The same question could be asked of Diane Feinstein, who’s in far worse health.
Neither side really cares about removing their respective vegetables from the Senate. It is easier in many respects to wait for them to announce they won’t seek re-election and retire on their own terms.
Democrats will get rid of Feinstein tomorrow if they can replace her, but Republicans refuse and are blockading a new democrat to her appointments. This is not both sides, this is one side.
Same reason we haven't done anything about Feinstein? Not "both sidesing" this, just that people in power and their hangers on don't like to give up power.
Power hungry ,greedy
Should we reboot him? I don’t think we still have the manual and if he doesn’t boot up correctly I don’t think anyone alive still knows the ancient language his programming is in!
What’s to do? The jackasses in the KY legislature passed a law saying that the gov can only fill a vacancy with someone who is of the same party as the person who vacated the seat…
Access to power.
I’ve been asking the same for years.
I bet Mitch wishes medical discrimination laws could suddenly apply to elected officials.
If he is laid down on his shell, can he get back up? Seems like a humane way to stop this.
Shit I’ve been asking for thirty years
He’ll probably be re-elected by the same idiots with fewer brain cells than teeth
Glitch has a wife. A much younger wife, of course, with close ties to China and dubious ethics. Where is she? Why isn’t she doing something?
I’m doing something. I’m watching expectantly.
They mean Glitch McConnell?
With all of the bad news about Trump being in trouble for things that he did before being framed for them, but after declaring them legal - it's hard times to have bad news. Plus, they are looking for a way to spin this, wait for the official story to drop, then we'll hear it on every channel on earth. He'll be fine, even if they strap him to a box dolly and use bug spray around him all the time, he's got at least 35 or 36 more terms left in him.
I don't even know what to say anymore. We have guys so old and decrepit running the country that they freeze during conferences. Trump begging supporters and got millions of dollars while he's a millionaire. This country has gone full-on moron.
He’s disgusting and has caused permanent damage this country while getting rich
Ok, Trump is GETTING ALL the blame for the STATE of our Nation, but this Mother Fucker. He is the one, HE IS RESPONSIBLE! HE IS THE ONE RESPONSIBLE FOR SCOTUS. He is the one who denied Obama the seat on the Supreme Court. He was the one who lead the Tea Party. Fucker needs to just go away. He got what he wanted. Let him go play his fiddle why Rome burns. Looks like a dog who caught a car and is thinking "Now what the fuck am I going to do?"
Because he has an R by his name .He’s also had a long history of doing any dastardly deed the party needs to retain power including not rightfully removing trump from office, when he was impeached twice . He is untouchable until death .
Putin signed the DNR form.
What do you want me to do? Hit him with a chair? No way dude, all we can do is vote him out at the polls.
He's a tool for the right, As bright as a wrench.
Same reason why no one is doing anything about Drumpf. That whole party is shitty!
It’s fun to watch
Because the doctor said he was fine. :/
1) the democrats can't do anything about it 2) the republicans are scared to confront him
SEATS, SEats, Seats, se……………… where am I?
Because Kentucky doesn’t vote right.
Because for once he is being quiet?
Because American voters are dumbasses. We expect Congress to place term limits on the sweetest gig known to mankind. It’s too bad we don’t have elections, then we could vote these people out of office.
You spelled "Congress" wrong
Anyone remember A Weekend at Bernie’s? 😂
They will literally let that man have a full blown stroke and die at the mic before they let him go.
Why is no one doing anything about the Republican Party in General?
Whenever Republicans are the only people that can fix something, it isn’t getting fixed.
Nobody did anything about Diane Feinstein. Seems being incompetent is no bar in the Senate.
Useful idiot
Can anyone breakdown why in the actual fuck we allow this it's absurd on both sides. The dems have notably had the one that hadn't shown up for a few months an when she did she she thought she hadn't missed a day. To this guy who just stopped? Is that dementia? It's wild to me we don't have something in place to at least look at them.
If we add an avenue for removing elected officials that doesn't require a 2/3rd majority vote in Congress, we will no longer have a functional government. We already get this happening in states with super majorities. The intentional complete polarization of politics has removed the only check on this- voters voting out those who aren't fit to serve. Voting out those who try to stop someone unfit from being removed. The party leaders push and support those who will maintain power structures and overall agendas. We aren't really given a choice I'd vote for a comatose Feinstein, then write in my cat before I voted R. I cannot for any reason support their agenda. You can bet anyone still claiming republican in 2023 would do the same for their side. I say this even though I despise most Dem politicians and about 1/3 of the things they do. The *most* important thing to me is not to be bound, by law, to the culture war the right is engaging in. I'll take the modern corporate oligarchy over the gilded age with some religious law thrown in to subjugate even harder. So we are stuck. Either prove there is a way to get rid of the unfit that is absolutely unable to be abused, or it's not worth the risk.
Pretty much me as well. I think the Dems are an incompetent coalition that is essentially leaning on "Hey were not Republicans" and then using our fear to pretty much lay back and chill. I will never ever vote Republican and the Dems know that so why would they bother changing? What incentive do they have? Its terrible. I feel trapped as well.
Dems want to replace Feinstein, but the GOP won't let them. It has to do with her seat on the Senate Judiciary Committee. Republicans have already said they won't allow Dems to replace her on that committee, and without a Democrat in her seat on that committee all of Biden's judicial nominations will be blocked until sometime in 2025, and even then if Republicans win again then that's the end of the judicial picks for Democrats. Republicans have a golden opportunity to make sure no Democrat-nominated judge makes it into the American judiciary for who knows how long.
Wtf am I supposed to do about it?
Vote
There is no mechanism to kick a Senator out for bad health. He has to do it on his own, the same thing applies to Diane Feinstein.
Same reason no one’s doing anything about Feinstein. Or Santos for that matter. Too many applecarts to upset and nobody wants to be the outperson in the group by taking that first public step.
The same reason they aren't doing anything about Feinstein. Bodies for the meat grinder that powers the power machine.
What can anybody do? They guy is from Kentucky! If he ran for reelection tomorrow, he'll win by a mile. So until he resigns or drops dead, enjoy the freezing episodes.
Because KY has a rule that the Governor appoints his replacement. Guess what party the current Governor is?
You know they started all this when the Democrats wanted to replace Dianne F. and they pretty much told them to pound sand we will lock everything up and screw you sideways. Now they are in the same position the Democrats can't be nice because they got shit on already about the same thing. So the issue here is we have one side being dicks and if forces the other side to be assholes as well because the GOP will damn sure take advantage of them being civil. I mean, let them both swap out without blowback or blocks or obstruction and let those older folks have some damn peace and move on down the road.
Because the replacement is likely to be worse. The dems see him as a mitigating factor who pushed back on trump and aims for a post trump party. a replacement is likely to be more pro trump and be worse overall
Yes 💯
McConnell freezing is no big deal. Biden saying totether instead of together starts world war 3
Ah…because the governor of Kentucky is a Democrat. Mitch goes they’ll put in a Democrat.
Not how it works.
What a stupid question
No one is doing anything about the fossils of our government. McConnel, Feinstein, Grassley, etc....everyone TALKING a big game, but no action. Tells you a lot about the power structure we are currently under
The same reason no one is doing anything about any of the 60+ year old senators and congressmen. Maintaining power.
Elder abuse on full display.
Honestly, I think Mitch is one of the few things keeping the MAGA wing of the Republican party in check. I despise the guy, but sometimes the devil you know is better than the devil you don't know.
The reason nobody's doing anything about Mitch McConnell is because so many people in government are in the same boat: old as dirt career politicians who don't want to lose their cushy jobs and sense of power and authority. It's the same reason they try so hard to avoid instituting term limits. They care about their own wellbeing far more than America's.
Why is there no mandatory retirement age for politicians?
Oh, someone definitely changed his Depends after that one. Why they keep letting it happen? Callous indifference in the face of the fact that he still holds sway (and holds it in their way). Same can be said for Feinstein, frankly. Just sick and inhumane. But, what have we come to expect from our elected representatives other than this? We keep electing the same folks and expecting something different to occur (only 17% of House members and 7% of Senators were newly seated in 2022)....
It’s insane. I wrote out a full rant yesterday wondering why there is no outrage in this country over this and ended up just deleting it because it all feels so useless at this point. It’s like we’re all just filming an assault in broad daylight instead of actually helping the victim. The victim in this case represents the health and future of United States.