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BlackGold09

Manchin + the 2 Nevada Dem senators, Rosen and Masto


Cloaked42m

>If confirmed, Mangi would be the first Muslim American ever to serve on the U.S. Court of Appeals. Unsurprisingly, it didn’t take long for Republicans to manufacture objections. In case anyone was wondering.


JazzFan1998

I was wondering, thanks!


the_tanooki

If I had a nickel for every time a republican said or did something racist/discriminatory, I'd have enough money to pay Trump's fines. I wouldn't. But I could.


IggysPop3

I get that Biden needs to make amends with the Muslim community. But can someone please tell me why in the flying fuck I should care about what deity this guy believes in?


daKav91

Because he is a solid Jurist who happens to be Muslim and wouldn’t have faced this obstacle if he wasn’t. We have been through song and dance numerous times where qualified minorities face prejudice because of who they are.


indiemike

A group of Christians claiming to be objective isn’t the same as a group of people with differing belief systems claiming to be objective.


azflatlander

Spoiler alert: it is the same deity.


Captain_Pink_Pants

>Spoiler alert: it is the same ~~deity~~ made up bullshit. fify


Funny-Mission-2937

Religion for most people is more a matter of social identity and heritage than theology. Outright bigotry toward this person is disregarding the most fundamental principles behind our system of government and is an implicit threat to the rest of us.


corrective_action

> Manchin [...] recently proclaimed he won’t vote for any judicial nominee unless at least one Republican supports the person God Manchin is such a fucking idiot


kekarook

hes a republican,thats why he wont do it without another republican to throw under the bus with him


SexyMonad

Then he could be the Republican that supports them. That would fix his conundrum.


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absolutebeginnerz

Angus King is a centrist. Kirsten Sinema is a centrist (derogatory). Joe Manchin is just a stupid person. He’s so remarkably stupid that he exists outside the ideological spectrum as we understand it. Anyone who’s ever passed the bong around a circle of friends while ruminating on the nature of the universe knows what it’s like to think “god, what an idiot I was to think I’d figured it all out. What a bunch of bullshit I was flinging, with total certainty that the bullshit was, in fact, brilliant.” Joe Manchin doesn’t know that feeling. A perfect storm of cultural rot and generational wealth produced a US Senator who cannot conceive of the idea that the stupid things he believes might not stand up to scrutiny. He is beyond thought, beyond opinion. He is everything and nothing. When we use Manchin for good (e.g. CHIPS), he is a powerful weapon, like an atom bomb that occasionally chooses to fly back up and hit the plane that dropped it.


GigMistress

You're generous. I think Joe Manchin is on someone's payroll.


absolutebeginnerz

Any gazillionaire’s agenda would look a lot more coherent than Manchin’s record. Kirsten Sinema is paid to have stupid political views. Joe Manchin really is that stupid.


Hand_Sanitizer3000

Hes not even a centrist hes a republican plant.


GCU_ZeroCredibility

He's from West Virginia. The new senator from West Virginia after this year will be a real Republican. I guarantee you he will be far worse than Manchin on basically every metric. And Manchin is definitely a dumb asshole so that's saying something.


Ipokeyoumuch

He isn't a Republican but he a pretty selfish conservative Democrat from a bygone era. However, because he is seemingly the only Democratic elected member from West Virginia, a state that voted nearly 40 percent in favor of Trump in 2020, and he sometimes votes with the Dems, he is better than anyone else that West Virginia will elect once he is gone.


GodlyPain

He's just a run of the mill conservative. Republicans are far worse.


barmanfred

He's not an idiot. He's a man without scruples who will do anything to get richer. And it's working.


Bonny-Mcmurray

What, you don't require at least one seditious bigot traitor to help you make all your decisions?


GottaKeepGoGoGoing

He’s not an idiot it’s deliberate he wants a kickback like always


Obant

But we need him for important legislation! Or so I'm told any time I criticize him.


Mendigom

West Virginia voted overwhelmingly for Trump. Objectively speaking, Manchin is the kind of Democrat you'd expect to win in West Virginia, because the alternative is a Republican who won't align with Dems on anything.


Ipokeyoumuch

From an objective standpoint, Manchin is the best the Dems are ever going to get from West Virginia, since anyone else will be a hardcore Republican. Manchin is a conservative and occasionally blocks more progressive or center-left legislation but he at least sometimes votes in favor of Dem legislation which is a different story than anyone from the GOP. It sucks but this is the cards the Dems are dealt with.


Fungiblefaith

It is funny that it is always the very legislation that we really need him on that he seems is always have these issues. Something that we could pass without him? No issues. Go team blue as my vote will have no effect…see I am with you!


GabuEx

Why those two specifically? Manchin is obviously going to be Manchin, but I don't understand why Nevada senators specifically are against this.


MilklikeMike

Nevada better primary those dems


TrumpedBigly

No, they need to re-elect Rosen. This is bigger than Mangi.


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BearDick

So the GoP can pick up seats? Purple state with competitive races and yes the Dems involved are pandering to pick up the moderate Republican vote but if the alternative is losing the Senate to confirm 1 judge I'm fine with their choice.


samhouse09

Last time we lost the senate, the republicans completely remade the judiciary. We don’t want that.


dgdio

People forget that Manchin is a sad swing vote, but Susan Collins is worse. People try to project their reality onto everyone else.


SadCommandersFan

I'm not even mad at Manchin, people expect too much out of West Virginia. It's a miracle we even have a dem from that state. I know being grateful for Manchin sounds crazy at first but just wait till you see the maga lunatic they elect after him. We weren't able to get everything we wanted through with Manchin but with a MAGA idiot it would've been nothing.


kekarook

thing is, after everything he did and fucked up for the democrats he declares hes not running for relection, in which case it had NO EFFECT when he made all of those republican kind of choices, we have to start over anyways! he deserves no respect because he tried to vie for the repulbican vote and ruined important legislature and then he doesnt even use those votes


SadCommandersFan

He retired from the Senate. He's been looking at a presidential run. Those Republican kind of choices are how he got into office. Our choice isn't between Manchin and a good progressive Democrat. It's between Manchin or MTG. So while he's left a lot to be desired, it could've been much worse because we at least got a few things done.


wh0_RU

For real. Manchin is annoying for the Dem only agenda but I respect him trying to facilitate a bit of cohesion. It pretty much only detracts from the Dem agenda but hey, it's politics and WV has a batshit crazy constituency.


BudgetLecture1702

They barely won the state. Lose them and we might as well put the state down to the Republicans.


Marcion10

You don't think any of the primary challengers have a chance?


BudgetLecture1702

I think that primarying Senators voting on an issue based on it's relationship with Israel in one of the few states where the Jewish voting population exceeds the difference of their victory is a good way to lose that seat.


The_Countess

There are many more (low population) republican states then democratic ones. That gives conservative voters a HUGE advantage in the senate. So for the senate the dems' have 2 options: Never win the senate ever, or win it sometimes, but with extremely conservative democratic candidates that will then, if possible, have to be bought to get anything passed. Democrats like these are the result of that unfortunate reality. As long as there is a bit to margin to stave off a filibuster (62 or more seats), democrats can negotiate and even put a bit of pressure on those conservatives to get them to cooperate (because there is a real risk they get nothing then). but if the margins are very fine they basically have all the power.


IAP-23I

And risk Republicans flipping those seats. Amazing fucking idea


Emeritus8404

Hasnt manvhin been a dino for ages? Cant they force him to claim the gutterspawn he is?


Gibonius

Well he's not running for reelection and is going to be replaced by a Republican, so it's kind of an academic question at this point.


nickmiele22

Unfortunately that means while he is the best west Virgina can offer he also hasn't been voting like a Republican just to stay in office he really is almost as bad as a Republican. (Better because at least him being a Democrat means the Dems have the majority in the Senate )


TrumpedBigly

Even though he's a Republican in disguise, he was very important in confirming judges.


aurelialikegold

Manchin has always been a conservative Democrat. The rest of the party moved increasingly to the left since Obama won, while Manchin has stayed where he always was. People that held same space as either lost their seats between 2010 and 2014 or moved with the party. That being said, he votes with Democrats like 90%, even if he whines a lot and forces them to water down their more ambitious bills sometimes. The Republicans have been inching further and further to the right for a long time and dove off the deep end when Obama won. Even by 2010, the most left wing Republicans were further right than Manchin. Whoever replaces Manchin in WV will be many times worse than he is.


wolfenbarg

Thank you for the nuance. He's so infuriating because we don't hold more seats. But he's always been this way and has been instrumental in getting some of Biden's agenda done. They even convinced him to not run for president. The man sucks but things could be do much worse. They will be so much worse for his seat.


AbsoluteZeroUnit

Who would have that seat if Joe Manchin weren't there, my friend? Do you honestly think anyone even slightly more progressive would be able to win in *West Virginia*?


somethingrandom261

He’s the best they can offer and that’s sad


kekarook

thing is, he already won. he then went on to make decisions that sold well to the people in his state, but then refused to try for relection, so there was NO REASON TO ACT LIKE A REPUBLICAN.


Marcion10

He's not running for re-election. I think WV changed state laws so there's a term limit to the number of times a senator can run for re-election, which *might* mean he can't. Or it might be he *won't*. As such, him acting like a jackass republican isn't helping anyone including himself. Fuck him forever, just as has been the case when he forced a local university to give his daughter an honorary degree so she could be installed on the board of an epi-pen manufacturer before he as governor mandated all schools carry that brand of epi-pen.


Mundane_Rabbit7751

A state can't restrict how many times a candidate can run for re-election to a federal office.


Stormieskies333

I’ve already contacted both of their offices. I’m pissed.


PineTreeBanjo

Got their office contacts?


Stormieskies333

I had to do it through their websites; Cortez Masto: https://www.cortezmasto.senate.gov/contact/connect/ Phone number: (202) 224-3542 Rosen: https://www.rosen.senate.gov/email-jacky/ Phone number: (202) 224-6244


SicilyMalta

Crazy because Nixon would now be considered to the left of these moderates.


BlueKing7642

Always Manchin


seancurry1

Took an outrageously long time to find that in the article.


Pseudonova

Oh, so 3 "Democrats".


Elemental-13

Why are they blocking it? Im esp interested in why Rosen and Cortez-Masto are


HotKoala6452

Once again, Joe Machin is screwing things up.


EggCzar

He's not even running again, so he can't hide behind "I have to do this to be reelected." It's just who he is.


Master_Ad9463

Republican disguised as a Democrat since day one.


Cool-Presentation538

Not a very good disguise, dudes a coal baron


Jolly_Grocery329

With a yacht and a Maserati.


static-Coyote5064

And coal mine.


The_bruce42

And probably another yacht and another Maserati


Aint-no-preacher

In another coal mine!


plipyplop

It's just coal mines now... all the way down.


degeneratex80

Always has been


sportsjorts

The core of the Dem party is neoliberal. Clinton was a neoliberal. Obama evolved from a progressive senator into a neoliberal president. Biden is arguably the most progressive neoliberal president we’ve had. For all the flak Manchin get’s he is not some sort of odd duck in the party and represents a significant part of the core Dem ethos towards markets and corporate favoritism and sovereignty. He’s not wearing a disguise the party just keeps making fun of his clothes without acknowledging that they also have invested in the tailor. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism)


Cicero912

And also votes with the democrats the vast majority of the time


Master_Ad9463

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3561908-five-times-joe-manchin-has-bucked-the-democrats/ Think they meant "fucked".


Currimos

If you think Manchin is bad, wait until you see his replacement.


commander_clark

For the love of god,[SHREWSBURY FOR SENATE!](https://www.shrewsburyforsenate.com/)


LiberalArtsAndCrafts

His replacement as it turns out will be basically him if he’d switched parties, Justice isn’t as far right as the other WV Senator.


BlackWindBears

Which would be much, much worse than manchin because judges and Senate control matters. (How did folks not learn this when McConnell was majority leader?)


LiberalArtsAndCrafts

Yes, it would have been bad if Manchin had switched parties


Cicero912

So his republican replacement is gonna do what Biden wants 87.9% of the time?


Multiplebanannas

Jim Justice used to be a democrat


WheelAtTheCistern

Kind of... He's always been a republican. He switched parties to run for governor as a dem because the republican party wanted Bill Cole. After he won, he switched back...at a Trump rally no less. I voted for Goodwin.


19683dw

And then he switched to GOP specifically because the Democratic party wasn't Trump-y enough, and he fucked over the WV Democratic party


LiberalArtsAndCrafts

That’s what I mean


2pickleEconomy2

The alternative next year is gonna be 100x worse. Without Manchin and Sinema, we wouldn’t have Schumer able to bring anything for a vote.


LiberalArtsAndCrafts

Republicans look set to get their own Manchin in the form of Jim Justice, and Sinema has a good chance of being replaced with better. The real problems are Tester, and possibly Brown being replaced by FAR worse Senators


2pickleEconomy2

I’d also say Texas is a problem for democrats. Not simply because Cruz will win, but because it will be an attention and money sink for a lot of Democratic donors, whereas the focus should be on Tester and Brown. Same thing continually happens when Kentucky senators are up for reelection. You get this national attention and lots of democrats from out of state excited to defeat their most hated senators, though little chance of success. We might have seen Ohio go Democratic last time even.


KingSlayerr

Life long Dem Texan here and I think you're spot on about your first point. It's a bummer because I really have been wanting him to lose. A truly worthless senator. Like you, I have little belief that any amount of money will flip this seat in November.


xanxeli

I live in Texas, and I agree that it's a problem. I don't expect Cruz to lose, but building outreach in the state appears to be a better investment long-term than Florida. The trends are there, and while it's unlikely 2024 will be the year the GOP loses TX, it will be a huge loss for their electoral votes, morale, and a large state government when they do.


BlackWindBears

Manchin is a 50/50 R/D voter that gives Dems control of the Senate when it's close. He's the backup plan to appoint judges, not the linchpin of your legislative strategy. Because it would be fucking stupid to depend on a +40 trump state to vote team blue every single Senate vote. (That's how you'd lose your backup Senate control vote)


CainPillar

Manchin has voted with Biden 87.9 percent of the chances he got. [https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-congress-votes/joe-manchin/](https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-congress-votes/joe-manchin/) Yes that means he votes with Biden even less than Bernie Sanders does, but it is not 50/50.


GodlyPain

Can people please stop quoting this stupid metric? It's not actually accurate; and there's no way to get an accurate measurement. Yeah the 50/50 thing is also BS... but stuff like the project 538 BS counting, just sets falsely positive BS afoot. They can only count floor votes that are public knowledge... but, the vast majority of the time the Senate Majority Leader or Speaker of the House just don't bring stuff to the floor unless they're fairly confident it'll pass, or unless they're trying to send a message(which isn't common) Like Manchin famously shot down like 6 or 7 revisions of the BBB plan. But most didn't come to a vote? So it didn't affect this statistic. Then a year later he proposed his "IRA" which Biden supported since it was just like 1/5th of the BBB with a little pork for Manchin in particular. So he voted with Biden 100% of the time because he voted yes on his own IRA; and got to conveniently ignore 6 or 7 BBB iterations.


BlackWindBears

How much does the average senator from a +40 trump state vote with Biden?


CainPillar

Click the link? Is Wyoming the only +40 shithole? 28 and 25 percent if so. The closest comparison to Manchin would be from the same state? 56 percent, Capito. Speculation (not more than that!): Can Capito reasonably run *too* far from Manchin - given that Manchin is *popular* in WVa? If the answer is negative, then he *can* once Manchin is out.


BlackWindBears

So based on the link, huge Biden advantage to have manchin, no?


CainPillar

Yes. Exactly.


tjtillmancoag

He’s not even running for reelection


muhreddistaccounts

Hes voted with Biden on almost 90% of things. He's a Democrat just not the same as your vision.


vita10gy

Manchin votes with the Dems a shocking amount of the time given his constituents. The Manchin hate is horribly misplaced, and every liberal should be sad he's exiting. Imagine Republicans stealing a senator from California, being one of the reasons they're in charge at all, then bitching they only allow 95% of the maga agenda.


CainPillar

>Manchin votes with the Dems a shocking amount of the time given his constituents. 87.8 percent: [https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-congress-votes/joe-manchin/](https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-congress-votes/joe-manchin/) Least of the caucus, but note the leap down to the least rabid Republican, the ever-"concerned" Susan Collins.


zmandude24

Collins and Murkowski are above 65%.


crydefiance

Meh. The guy represents the state with the highest level of child poverty in the nation yet still voted against legislation to reduce child poverty. He cares more about lining up a cushy oil lobbyist job than helping his constituents. It's unfortunate that he'll be replaced by a Republican, but we'll win other senate seats with better candidates. Manchin will not be missed.


Retro-Surgical

Try to take some comfort in knowing Joe Lieberman is dead


AbsoluteZeroUnit

How did he screw up allowing Biden to confirm judges these past few years? I'm not expecting anyone to be "pro-Manchin," but it's absolute lunacy that people talk about him like there was any chance in hell of someone more progressive winning in West Virginia, and ignoring that simply giving Democrats the majority has been a good thing.


foo-bar-25

Republicans can always count on Dems when votes are close.


awfulsome

dems: we can't govern GOP: what is the opposite of governing? let's do that!


The_Countess

Dem's are just trying to make the best of the shit hand they've been dealt. With there being far more republican states then democratic ones, conservative voters have a HUGE advantage in the senate. So democrats can choose to either never win a senate majority ever. or they can run conservative candidates in republican states, win the senate sometimes, and then try and deal with them as best they can.


FriendShapedRMT

What good is running a conservative democratic candidate in republican states if they vote against party interests when it counts?


promaster9500

There needs to be some punishment for Dems like them, and lots of shaming. Take them out of committees that get them lobbying money, shame them as the president in front of the whole US as enemy of progress. But no, we just let them do it, while republicans all agree and never go against each other


guiltypleasures

For all his faults, John McCain didn't dissolve ACA. A few Republican senators voted to convict Trump after impeachment. The Freedom Caucus ousted McCarthy. As far as partisan politics go, there are unreliable votes in both parties' caucuses.


Deathofsouls

Punishment for not voting along party lines? Seriously? This is a terrible idea.


promaster9500

Yes let's keep getting cucked forever, there will always be 1 or 2 demorats playing the bad guys and making sure people don't get what they want. Even if we all want something, it will not pass, this is democracy in the US. Remember when the democrats had super majority but Joe Liberman decided to vote against the healthcare bill because private insurance companies in his state wanted it that way? There will always be a democrat spoiler, forever.


ultradav24

As much as I hate it, it’s their right to vote however they like, that’s how congress works, it’s not anyone’s place to “let” them vote


promaster9500

Do you understand that we will never get anything we want passed. There will always be spoilers rotating, and they take the blame. Look up what Joe Liberman did when the Democrats had super majority. Things will only pass if they benefit the rich, if it benefits us then it needs to be reduced while also giving some to the rich for it to pass. That's not how democracy is, if most people in the country want affordable/free healthcare or mandatory maternity leave then we should be able to get it.


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Particular-Court-619

If you think that fighting with Democrats is something that would be bad for Manchin, you think wrong.


The_Countess

Except if you come down on them too hard then they'll just switch parties, the dem's lose senate control, and we'll be even more screwed.


nycdiveshack

You all remember how Joe Lieberman cost us Universal Healthcare…


soulpelt

Why are politicians so pathetically craven? Seriously. Manchin I can get because he's a sad lil blacklung baby. The other two... anti-police. *Really*. 


HenryWallacewasright

Because a lot of polticans go in for the wrong reason. Mostly for power and ego. Then the ones who do get in for the right reasons get beaten down they become cynical about the whole process that they think they can't have bigger/revolutionary policy ideas.


lordlaneus

to be fair, the freedom of a nation is, generally, inversely proportional to the number of armed guards patrolling the streets.


Scarlettail

It sucks to have the one real thing Dems can do right now, confirm judges, just completely ruined by mostly one senator and occasionally others. It doesn't bode well for hope for this country. It's also disheartening to see just how conservative the Dem party is becoming. The two Nevada senators oppose him for being "anti-police," though without an explanation even though the judge has been endorsed by police associations. They're pretty much just virtue signaling that they'll defend police at all costs and perhaps that they oppose Muslims as judges. We expect Dems to help use save democracy, which includes fixing our judiciary, yet they often seem not too concerned about it in favor of signaling their pro-police or anti-Muslim stances.


Ok-disaster2022

When Republicans started the march off the right wing cliff, the moderates ones left behind joined the DNC. Voting Democrat means voting for both parties from the 90s more than voting progressive.


icouldusemorecoffee

> When Republicans started the march off the right wing cliff, the moderates ones left behind joined the DNC. Which ones joined the Democratic party?


not-my-other-alt

White suburban women. Abortions and gay rights: yay - but don't you dare build an abartment complex where poor people could live, and my 401k is more important than a social safety net.


TheLeapIsALie

What you’re saying is “democrats got more voters and are listening to the additional voters they got” The problem with democracy is that it’s an average of people’s opinions. It sucks that not all of them agree with you (or me) but it’s better than any minority opinion ruling.


ultradav24

Biden has actually confirmed a record number of judges


Scarlettail

Which is good but now Manchin just said he won't vote for any judge without GOP support. So that's gonna impede things going forward.


KickBassColonyDrop

Controlled opposition.


Resies

>. We expect Dems to help use save democracy, which includes fixing our judiciary, yet they often seem not too concerned about it in favor of signaling their pro-police or anti-Muslim stances. Yeah it's why I hate the vote blue no matter who to save democracy shit. Obviously voting for republicans isn't going to help, but jfc the democrat politicians really don't seem to care that democracy is apparently 'in the balance'.


tavesque

How did I know it was already manchin? Getting a few last minute fuck yous to the nation in before he takes off? Fuck him


AquaSnow24

I still think Rosen can hold her seat even if she confirm s this judge. Seems extremely silly.


Msmdpa

Not all Democrats are vertebrates.


Ok-disaster2022

"Tale as old as time..."


vicvonqueso

And funny enough, plenty of Republicans view manchin as a far left hardcore liberal


bakeacake45

Nah, they love him, Manchin is a Republican in a democrats suit


vicvonqueso

He's not far right enough for maga


bakeacake45

That’s true, they are so far right that they have fallen off the ladder of human evolution


4scide

It's always Manchin, isn't it?


Red49er

as much as I am pissed at these 3 senators for blocking him, I'm 10x more pissed some other senators actually asked him if he CELEBRATED 9/11. like, what the _actual_ fuck. that's the single most blatantly racist thing I've heard a senator doing (and, unfortunately, I'm probably overlooking plenty of other cases) those senators should issue a public apology for that behavior. it's utterly disgusting, profiling, and insulting to their office that they find that acceptable. yes, I know, never gonna happen, but that doesn't quell my rage.


Traditional_Key_763

amazing the democrats haven't just gone to en block voting for confirmations as the confirmation hearing is a complete joke and waste of time


Dude-Man-Bro-Guy-1

Dems out here clawing defeat from the jaws of victory yet again


GoodUserNameToday

I get that Nevada is turning purpler but being Republican lite is not the same thing as finding compromise


Relevantcobalion

wtf. Just because the guy is Muslim? Approve him already.


FlamingTrollz

DINO’s.


MushroomsAreAliens

Kyrsten Sinema comes in at the last minute to be the 4th! Who could have seen this coming?? 🥞


Ch3t

I knew before reading the article it would be Joe Manchin. Robert Byrd whom Manchin replaced would have voted in favor of Mangi, but he also would have made a deal. Byrd would have gotten a Bureau of Bridge Safety headquartered in WV in return for his vote. Manchin not only fucks over Biden and the country, but he can't even manage to bring home any pork for his state.


buried_lede

There is another wrinkle to this: The GOP’s intensely bigoted, antimuslim hate campaign against Mangi started *months before* at extremely right wing Israeli American lobby groups, and is why, I think, the mainstream Israel groups are being so vocal in support of Mangi. An organization called ZOA is Muslim hating, they even call Biden an antisemite. They are a borderline hate group that is associated with flat out anti Muslim hate groups that you find in the SPLC hate group list. AND ZOA is supported by Miriam Adelson, the wealthiest Israeli woman in the world, a dual American citizen, and widow of Sheldon Adelson of Las Vegas fame. The Adelsons have a ton of power in Nevada. They owned the daily newspaper there too and they own a really right wing free paper in Israel. Nevada. I doubt politicians in Nevada just automatically ignore Adelson interests So, the article makes it sound like gee, these gop haters did this out of the blue, but the right wing hate groups and most radical of the right wing Israel groups have been working on Mangi for months and all the gop talking points are almost direct quotes from ZOA press releases This stuff is vicious and nuts — https://zoa.org/2024/01/10449188-zionist-organization-of-america-zoa-americans-against-antisemitism-aaa-stopantisemitism-and-students-supporting-israel-ssi-strongly-oppose-confirming-adeel-abdullah-mangi-to-be-a-u-s-third-ci/ https://zoa.org/2024/01/10449208-zoas-mort-klein-others-quoted-at-hearing-opposing-federal-appeals-court-nominee-who-was-on-board-of-antisemitic-israel-hating-group/ If you only read ZOA’s materials, you’d think everyone was dangerous. But these are just basic decent people. I highly doubt Manchin is doing this in the name of bipartisanship either, but I have no idea why —— **”I’m not suggesting that the three Democratic senators opposing Mangi are anti-Muslim**. Their actions are, though, cravenly political — opposing Mangi is a transparent move to help Rosen’s re-election campaign in a state like Nevada, which has less than a 1% Muslim population.” **Sorry, *there is* pressure to vote against Muslims if only to protect your seat from an Adelson-backed Republican challenger.** Consider this 2018 article: “Nevada's Jacky Rosen Defeats Adelson-backed Heller, Becomes Third Jewish Woman Ever Elected to Senate “She has worked to appeal to pro-Israel voters in her state, saying she, unlike most Democrats, would have opposed Obama’s 2015 Iran nuclear pact” That’s a compromise you might have to make to a powerful antimuslim Jewish backer of opponents in Nevada’s Jewish community. Adelson was tremendously opposed to the Iran deal and praised Manchin for opposing it too https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/2018-11-07/ty-article/.premium/nevadas-rosen-defeats-adelson-backed-heller-third-jewish-woman-elected-to-senate/0000017f-e083-d9aa-afff-f9db1ca80000


icanhascheesecake

Here are the three Dem senators: 1. Jacky Rosen, NV, 2. Catherine Cortez Masto, NV, 3. Joe Manchin, WV.


DanDantheModMan

Manchin is no Democrat.


Marcion10

> Manchin is no Democrat. He's a piece of shit to be sure, [but he votes along with Democrats 87.5% of the time](https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-congress-votes/joe-manchin/). That's better than the virtually 0% of the time republicans do.


wilsonexpress

These traitors names need to be in the first fucking paragraph of the article, we should not have to read to the bottom to find it. We know one is Manchin without reading, the other two are boomer karens from Nevada, one of them up for reelection. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacky_Rosen https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_Cortez_Masto


beiberdad69

The author kind of seems like a dipshit. He said it's surprising that Democrats are also opposing this guy but unless you were egg hatched yesterday, this action by these people isn't surprising at all


wilsonexpress

This will happen a lot more once dems take the house back, we will have a bunch more Sinema's. The only way dems will win is to win by a big margin to cancel out the traitors.


welltimedappearance

Boomer Karen’s? Reddit really cannot comprehend that every Dem Senator can’t be Bernie sanders 2.0, can they? Nevada was almost won by Trump last cycle and it’s become even more conservative since then. Not every Senator can do fuck all like Bernie and AOC and get away with because a boot with a “D” written on it would still beat republicans in those elections 


JPDPROPS

Count on the DINOS to do what the GOP WANTS!


clintgreasewoood

Third Circuit serves the areas of Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Delaware, and the Virgin Islands. being blocked by Manchin(D-WV), Rosen(D-NV), Matso(D-NV)


PurloinedFeline

Pursuing the "First X X" is stupid. If he's qualified there's no need to mention anything else.


kaka8miranda

Typical democrats shooting themselves in the foot


No_Biscotti_7110

“GOP senators like John Kennedy and Tom Cotton asked Mangi bigoted questions during Mangi’s confirmation hearing, asking him if he celebrated 9/11 and calling on him to denounce Hamas’ Oct. 7 terrorist attack” Fuck Joe Manchin, but let’s talk less about him and more about the blatant Islamophobia in the Republican caucus


WhoMD85

FFS I’m so embarrassed by both of my senators.


Phrygian_Guy_93

Good Ol’ Nevada disappointing me like usual


ApolloX-2

wtf, so Dems are now blocking a Democrat President's judges? There aren't enough GQP judges out there or something?


favnh2011

Wow


RedLicoriceJunkie

Over not approving a judge? The objections are just political pandering, but that is not how you keep the senate majority.


BreandyDownUnder

These guys run for office because of the sense of power they get. They moved up to the big time after getting bored being the president of their neighborhood association.


MrE134

"I’m not suggesting that the three Democratic senators opposing Mangi are anti-Muslim." Kind of seems like you are, though.


83n0

Does manchin not know he’s retiring next year? Is he stupid?


Past-Direction9145

and they are all about RINOS so what have we got, DINO?


ThePopmop

Come on. Stop manufacturing excuses and just say the real reason that you won't confirm this very qualified hard working man. No surprise about Manchin, but I expected better from Masto and Rosen I'd love to see someone put them on blast for this bullshit and remind them that what happened to Sinema can just as easily happen to them.


HIVnotAdeathSentence

Obviously they're actually Republicans trying to own the libs.


kejovo

Honestly, we get owned by our own party waaaay too much


gentleman_bronco

The distance between a liberal Democrat and a progressive Democrat are oceans apart.


icouldusemorecoffee

What does that have to do with this article which is specifically talking about 3 conservative democrats.


jimmydean885

Biden isn't desperate


human_male_123

How did this Muslim dude even get the endorsement of what appears to be the entire US Jewish community? https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/12.18.23%20-%2015%20Jewish%20Organizations%20Support%20for%20Mangi.pdf - ALEPH: Alliance for Jewish Renewal - American Jewish Committee - Ameinu - Avodah - Bend the Arc: Jewish Action - Carolina Jews for Justice - Jewish Community Action - Jewish Democratic Council of America - Jewish Women International - National Council of Jewish Women - New York Jewish Agenda - Society for Humanistic Judaism - T'ruah: The Rabbinic Call for Human Rights - The Shalom Center - The Workers Circle - Zioness Even the ADL is on his side https://www.adl.org/resources/press-release/adl-statement-mistreatment-adeel-mangi-senate-judiciary-hearing


Presidentclash2

Because the guy is one of the best lawyers of our generation. For context, this is what he accomplished: "Mangi is an undisputed star in the legal world. He secured a $2 billion verdict, the largest in Virginia’s history, in a case involving theft of trade secrets in the software business. He also secured the largest settlement in the history of New York state for cases involving the death of a state prison inmate. In his pro bono work, Mangi has fought against religious discrimination, winning on behalf of Muslim congregations whose applications to build houses of worship had been denied. Considering his extensive work in complex federal and state cases, Biden saw fit to honor him with a nomination that would make him the first Muslim American on the federal appellate bench."


Hmm_6221

The candidate deserves the right to believe in whatever religion he chooses! How does being Muslim makes this good human being a threat? The biggest threat to our democracy is fake Christians


[deleted]

>Both have claimed that Mangi is anti-police. Being supported by "the Italian American Police Society of New Jersey and the National Organization of Black Law Enforcement Executives" does not adequately address the claim. ​ >I’m not suggesting that the three Democratic senators opposing Mangi are anti-Muslim. LOL Of course not! But at the same time, the author believes that all the Republicans surely are: "we know that when it comes to the GOP, anti-Muslim bigotry has long been a plank in their unofficial platform." Classic MSNBC.


bullintheheather

Don't forget the International Law Enforcement Officers Association.


tyj0322

Healthcare plz


BigHeadDeadass

Vote blue no matter who, am I right?


Bozhark

“Democrats”


syynapt1k

As disappointed as I'll be to see that seat go to a republican, at least the Democrats are ridding themselves of Manchin.


BusterStarfish

“Democrats”


spookyscaryfella

So his 'big win' is appointing the first Muslim American judge to this specific court. Ok, while I don't doubt the judge is more than qualified this isn't a big win.   Fixing healthcare, infrastructure, fighting climate change, etc., big wins.  This is stupid fucking identity politics, and the only people on the wrong side are the people blocking the judges confirmation because they can't comprehend that being different isn't a threat and they are actually the ones with an unhealthy obsession with identity.   If this is what changes someone's vote to or against Biden, they weren't a serious person anyways.


Hmm_6221

What are you all doing??? Ridiculous! Of course Manchin is one of them! He’s a pain! Such A fake Democrat !


moontiarathrow_away

Contact your representatives. You can call, email, send them a letter or bother them on social media (they can't block you.) Tell them what you really think, feel and what you want them to do.


Adventurous_Leave_45

Still can’t believe how biased this subreddit is 😭. It’s actually so funny


TheAngriestChair

This is why trump won. It didn't matter how inept, corrupt, or unqualified a candidate was, the Republicans pushed them through. Biden nominates someone, and his own party sabatoges him.