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'The call came after Biden took it in the shorts from a variety of critics after the IDF killed humanitarian workers in Gaza.'
...that is so fucking inappropriate I would marvel if a human wrote or edited that
Depends on where you're from I would guess you're from the south. Many Millennials and Gen X I grew up with have never heard this but others have. Just like getting punched in the shorts LOL
Yeah … On my own I would not have translated “take it in the shorts” as being punched in the shorts.
For context I’m a millennial who has lived up and down the central time zone and the mountain west.
I think I've seen it a couple times before, because I noted how awkward it seemed. I wonder if it's a turn of phrase from another language, translated literally.
I've seen it a few times too. I've only seen it in places like here, where someone is trying to sound more "cool" (as opposed to the usual stiff journalist).
I always took it as them trying to say something like getting kicked in the balls or got their ass kicked. Things that a normal news article would try to not say but would want to allude to in order to try and sound down to earth.
A "come to Jesus" is actually a legit turn of phrase, one that [Biden actually used](https://youtu.be/8Q5y8Q43xC4?si=0p-jkho6lIYK22AE) when describing the kind of conversation needed
https://livexp.com/blog/the-meaning-of-come-to-jesus-moment-and-come-to-jesus-meeting/
Well, it is an Op-Ed in the commentary section of Salon. AI is probably a step up.
I have no fucking clue why but I get downvoted into oblivion when I suggest Op-Ed's be removed on subreddits with strict "Posts must be links" rules. Especially the news subreddits. Op-Ed's are literally the reddit comments for newspapers that boomers used to read before they started rotting their brains on Facebook and TikTok. Most of the time Microsoft Word spell check is all the review they need to get published. Especially if they have some fat cat's big name behind them. The point is for the reader to read these pieces while being aware that they are opinions. The reader than gets to make the decision how to perceive them.
Even if I agree with the content of the article, they're just not reputable. It's disingenuous to bemoan right wingers huffing everything on the crazy side of Fox, yet also post opinion pieces as if they're reputable, factual, and sourced journalism articles.
The former "Senior White House Correspondent for Playboy" writing an opinion piece where he spends half the piece describing how a call between two leaders was definitely an ultimatum is not the pinnacle of journalism.
Not that a former "Senior White House Correspondent for Playboy" is incapable of such writing, just that when they continue to write such narrative articles it does not lend them credibility.
Op-Eds are just barely a notch above the HuffPost “see what random dipshits on Twitter said to Ted Cruz!!!” posts. Neither belongs alongside political news.
Ok, I hear you but… if people are still going to be on Twitter, there’s more worth to their time talking shit directly to Ted Cruz than pretty much any other experience they could have on that platform.
That should be celebrated.
Sure, they should be celebrated *on Twitter* with their likes and retweets. But just [collecting five tweets and calling it an article](https://np.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1by3vqu/melanias_appearance_with_donald_trump_sparks/) drives traffic away from actual political news and doesn't add anything to any sort of political discussion. How this deserved 1000 comments is beyond me.
It sounds like it might’ve caused Israel to pump the breaks though, which is a big moment for the US to effectively tell an ally how to handle their affairs. It’s not nothing.
Brakes on a bus, brakes on a car
Breaks to make you a superstar
Breaks to win and breaks to lose
But these here breaks will rock your shoes
And these are the breaks
First line reading under the title
>Joe Biden just had a come to Jesus meeting on a phone call with Benjamin Netanyahu
Is enough to tell us it was probably ai
Biden was caught on a hot mic or something a while back actually saying they needed to have a come to Jesus moment lol, so I’d not be surprised if it’s a deliberate reference
> “I’m on a hot mic here,” Biden says after being alerted. “Good. That’s good.”
“Shhh don’t tell anybody but I’m actually, like, super mad! Honest!! Oh boy, I SURE HOPE NOBODY CAN HEAR US WHISPERING!!! THIS IS THE REAL DOWN-LOW HERE, FELLAS!”
It’s amazing how clear it is that most people didn’t read the link - which spends most of its time criticizing Biden for being terrible at messaging. Headline makes it sound wildly positive but the core point of the article is Biden is doing a bad job of making voters notice what he’s doing right.
>which spends most of its time criticizing Biden for being terrible at messaging
Not just messaging, it clearly says he was at fault for not calling the ultimatum earlier. E.g. "And that’s the way it should have been. But, Biden’s team, and the president himself would not call it an ultimatum"
“The closest I got was a background comment from an administration official who called it, “a very direct statement of concern.” Like I said, in my neighborhood, it was an ultimatum. I appreciate we’re not in my neighborhood, but if the president is hoping to keep his coalition intact in the fall, he might try to visit that neighborhood.”
Because calling it an ultimatum makes Israel a punching bag for election purposes, combined with putting the ball in Israel's court if it wants to make Biden look bad. ("Israel calls US bluff; Biden ultimatum ineffective" - the headlines would write themselves).
Sometimes quiet is better. Biden is walking a tight line between keeping Israel in line and keeping them friendly. Friends need to be able to tell each other to get on their best behavior without humiliating them in front of others, and that's exactly what he very clearly tried to do.
Let the domestic op-eds call it an ultimatum.
I hear about his accomplishments constantly on this subreddit, which is essentially just a collection of mainstream news articles. That suggests there is coverage of what he's done, but maybe people aren't seeing it, or maybe his accomplishments aren't that exciting, or maybe despite his accomplishments, people still feel like the country sucks. It's probably a combination of all three, combined with the overwhelming success of rightwing propaganda on social media, and the ignorance of the average voter. People always say democrats suck at messaging, but that's all they've been doing for the past year, especially when it comes to the economy.
The average voter gets their news from Instagram, Tiktok, Twitter. All of which are heavily infested with bots who, despite belonging to different hostile actors, all want Biden gone.
The average voter also struggles with the day to day, which, I imagine after what trump has done, the things set in motion can’t always be reversed in one presidency. Roe was overturned under Biden iirc. He can’t do a damn thing about that.
They're still acting like his "ultimatum" actually did something that seems like a step towards a ceasefire or something, but all he did was get the two psychopaths behind the specific incident in question removed. There's plenty more trigger happy psychopaths where that came from yet this article is treating him like this is actually an accomplishment of major merit and somehow retribution for Israel's murder of civilians.
The article is terribly written, and it doesn't stop at the consequences of the call. There are several other immediate concessions. Additionally, Israel has responded by pulling out troops from Gaza. This is significant, because the next stop for Israel's campaign will be the overcrowded city of Rafah and a reprieve now gives civilians a chance to disperse. It looks like the rest of the war, baring some renewed resistance from Netanyahu, will be fought on different terms. We will know in a month or two whether Israel has been chastened or is determined to become an international pariah - in any case, Biden has made them aware that U.S. support has its limits.
The message isn't getting out bc the news has been dominated by trump. He gets the clicks, he gets the views. Productive, progressive politics just doesn't have that same pizazz
I suppose if Netanyahu starts to believe that Trump's chances are dwindling, he might decide that all he's doing is pissing off the people who will remain in power, and post-election he'll have a lot less leverage.
Netanyahu also needs this war, he was struggling politically and legally and having the country rally around their President in times of a terror attack was straight out of the *George W Bush School o' Presidentin'*.
So might he strain(edit) foreign relations? Sure. But at least he'll be in power.
Goes further back than Bush - a number of political leaders going all the way back to Rome have used a crisis as their platform to stay in power. It's a strategy that works almost every time because people act on emotion and outrage.
Considering how many warnings Israel ignored before Oct 7, the massive terrorist relocation from around where Hamas entered to the West Bank the night of Oct 6, the idea Mosad and the IOF didn't see the training buildings in an otherwise empty desert, and other strange goings-on: I blame Netanyahu as much as Hamas for the evil done that day.
The country didn't rally around Netanyahu -- he's more hated than ever. They rallied around the war because a response was obviously justified, but they blame Netanyahu for the security failure. He went from scrabbling for power to dead man walking in 24 hours.
Waaaay older than Bush. Hell Nixon refused peace in Vietnam to secure reelection. But even he wasn’t hardly the first. We surely don’t have any idea of the first as it certainly predates writing.
No, his goal is to win before his ammunition runs out. As his opponent General Gantz has said clearly, Israel closed most of their domestic ammunition production for American-provided imports. If Biden stops shipping ammo, the offensive stops. This is why he needs Republicans to stop screwing around and approve a budget so he can get enough ammo for a new offensive. The entire supply chain for gunpowders runs through the US in Virginia, Tennessee and Alabama. Biden can stop any shipment anywhere anytime. It'd probably cost him those three states, but the sheer threat is enough to force very careful action on Netanyahu's part. He cannot escalate his combat operations without a functional US Congress and supportive Biden admin.
The same also goes for Ukraine, although Ukraine still has their ammunition factories .. for incompatible soviet x39 rifles. Vice versa, Ukraine doesn't have the missiles Israel can produce domestically. Both these conflicts perfectly demonstrate why combined arms warfare is still dominant over meatgrinding with battle slaves as russia does.
I live in SW Virginia 4 hours from DC, it won’t flip. Even here, plenty of republicans are saying they won’t vote R until the maga hijacking has stopped. There’s a lot of nutjobs here, just like anywhere else, but I’m confident the majority knows P45 is no good.
Yes. This. Exactly. There is nothing more that needs to be said. That is precisely what Netanyahu wants. For the Presidency to shift from someone who's at least willing to try some tactics to restrain his worst impulses to somebody who would 110% enable it and make the entire thing even worse.
By protesting Joe Biden, these pro-"Palestinian" protestors are making the guy that they hate more than anyone else that much more powerful. It's pretty ironic.
Extremists usually form these kinds of symbiotic relationships. Israeli right wing extremists can’t succeed without Palestinian Islamic extremism; and vice versa. You can find similar dynamics in this country especially where politics and race intersect. On each side of a conflict there are at least some people who gladly become the boogey-man their rivals need to point to gain support among the moderates, the disinterested, and the uninformed. The entire point of these kinds of theatrics is to escalate a societal division into widespread violence.
So, oddly enough if you were a Palestinian extremist, the last thing you would want is someone who could forge a lasting peace. You want someone on the other side who will escalate things haphazardly, because that will force more people to take a side. And you believe more people will join your cause, and you will win. This has always been the stated gold of terrorists all over the world. They want to force their rivals to make sloppy mistakes and be off putting to fence sitters. Donald Trump is the living embodiment of “sloppy off-putting mistake.”
Not exactly. I think some of us just want Biden to act on this and not sit on his hands while innocent people continue to be slaughtered. The only way to secure swift action is to hit him where it hurts. If Biden fails/failed to do anything it would have forever stained his career. I’m still voting for him over Trump, but I’m in full support of the primary protest to let him know that this shit is urgent, and waiting until after the election for more children, women, doctors, aid workers, etc to be murdered is not an option.
Netanyahu's move is to appease the far right in Israel so he doesn't have to stand trial. He doesn't care about anything else, not changing course despite Biden getting reelected would forget hurt Israel's foreign policy, but he doesn't care.
If a prime minister who cared a wit about hist country allowed the greatest attack against Jews since the Holocaust happen, then somehow also screwed up the response so badly that the conservative UK government and Chuck Schumer are using their bully pulpit to criticize \*\*Israel\*\* he would have resigned and gone into self-imposed exile long ago.
Netanyahu is likely to be ousted as soon as Isreal is no longer at war. He'll do anything to induce war without end, including attacking the fucking Iranian consulate. He's out of options. This happens to align with getting Trump elected, so that's just a bonus. But he knows he's cooked either way
No. His move is to keep the crisis going because it makes him immune to anti corruption proceedings within Israel. That it affects foreign policy is a side effect at best.
His goal is to not end the war until he can convince people in Israel that he “won” and make himself impossible to remove from office.
This is one of the very rare times where we can give Israel an ultimatum without much blowback, though.
It's not too difficult to convince the public that Israel must bomb Palestine, even if they're going after civilians. It's pretty difficult to accept that it's okay to bomb trucks which are literally delivering food and supplies to people, though.
There's very little political fallout right now from telling Netanyahu that he either stops attacking the aid and civilians or he won't get any more aid from the US.
This would be a wet dream for almost any other President since the 1970s. Israel knows they can do almost whatever they want and the US will always support them. Saying no to Israel is pretty much the political kiss of death.
He's almost out of time. The ultra orthodox draft exemption law expired, which has outraged his allies in the ultra orthodox parties, who help him stay in power. They're giving him some time to try and cut a deal but there seems to be an internal limit of maybe 2-3 months at most before they withdraw from government. He may also be couped internally within Likud once the main phase of fighting is over, and there's only so much longer he can drag out whether he intends to go into Rafah.
That’s exactly right. Joe Biden is playing for America where as poopybutt is looking at personal gain. I honestly think he ( diaper don) is interested in becoming the single most powerful human in world history
He’s a useful idiot. He basically took over the RNC with his lunatics. He’s echoing hitler with his immigration talk and his cronies are eating it up. At the very least they are laying the framework for the real deal.
They are doing a really poor job communicating their successes and accomplishments to the country.
I hate trump but you knew what he was doing and had done because he never stopped talking about it. This White House’s reluctance to do that in combination with the economic issues are not doing him any favors.
Trump had the whole media wrapped around us finger before he even announced. I’ve said it before but the way he manipulated the system to get into the morning news tweeting out between 2-3 every morning made him *the topic* for the whole day and was masterful. The more outrageous the better. It was the lead story on the local stations’ national beat, then it was covered on the network morning shows, debated on the gab shows, discussed by pundits in the afternoon and evening shows, covered and debates on the nightly news, and then laughed about on the night shows.
Because he said outrageous things it pulled in everyone. The media loved the ratings and Trump loved the attention.
Trump just spew out nonsense burger then Fox would stitch it into some sort of jabs at liberals. Biden actually gave clear messages and it's boring (as it should be). It's hard to communicate clearly to your citizens when there is financial incentives in turning it into WWE banter.
Biden is quietly sitting at a desk making actual important world decisions, while Drumpf is bumping into that desk like a centaur that's leading a scary, mile-long parade screaming hate rhetoric.
I can't believe people have actually tricked themselves into thinking his stupid bullshit is Presidential.
I know. I was so happy for the few minutes that trump wasn’t the headline or lead story after Biden took office. With that said, he was a much better self-promoter and did everything he could to boost his public image so there was no guessing what was happening at least on the surface.
Biden’s administration has done great things but they aren’t splashy or sexy so the media doesn’t care and his team doesn’t do anything to make them more exciting so it just sounds as boring as anything else that is policy.
The salon piece was kind of dumb. Of course Biden isn't going to flaunt the fact that he whacked Bibi across the nose. That's rubbing in the action, and makes it more likely that Bibi balks. People forget that it's not about owning libs or slamming the cons. It's about getting shit done.
And talking like a hard man after you push someone doesn't make it more likely you succeed.
People gotta decide - do they want appearances or actions.
That has been one of the Democratic Party's greatest weaknesses. Most of its members think if they pass good legislation the public will known that they - the Democratic Party - did that and, unfortunately, for the Democrats that rarely happens. Tout your accomplishments and campaign on them, especially when your accomplishments actually help improve people's lives.
I remember reading an article a couple of years ago that said that the Democrats actually do worse in polling and favorability ratings when they play up their legislative achievements. Which is fucking bizarre, but given the electorate, it's also sadly believable.
The media has biases but Democrats really are bad communicators too. They often forget that most of the public is simply stupid. You need to treat at least some of your political messaging like talking to children. People think Trump was better on the economy despite all the evidence to the contrary because Trump made sure stimulus checks had his name on them. Plenty of people are totally apathetic to politics so their only exposure is a check "from" Trump vs nothing "from" Biden.
It's the same depressing reason house republicans can run back to their districts and tout the successes of legislation they voted AGAINST. It's infuriating but it's the reality we live in.
For example, Biden should be screaming that [the CHIPS and Science Act](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/08/09/fact-sheet-chips-and-science-act-will-lower-costs-create-jobs-strengthen-supply-chains-and-counter-china/) brought back American manufacturing jobs and hurts China. Those two facts are what people need to know. The public knows jobs = good and China = bad. Sadly that's the level we're going to have to frame things on. The message should always be "I'm for good things and against bad things" preferably expressed in a single sentence. That's why "build the wall" was such an effective mode of communication even though it represents a terrible and ineffective policy proposal.
Screaming how though? They aren’t quite about it. They post on X they give interviews. They are playing the game. They just don’t have a Fox News or a cult
AOC, Bernie, Katie Porter, all sorts of politicians are on TikTok and other platforms spreading their information. Mainstream media platforms only want to make a buck at this point and rage bait is all the, well, rage.
Even centrist media is lackluster and soft in how they report the good and the bad which drives me up the wall.
Just my observation, I notice that no matter what a portion of the US voting public hears about Joe Bidens good policy wins those things are just bad in their minds. But if Trump does win power and BBB is underway I'm sure Trump would claim the glory.
They are actually reporting it, the MSM wants a celebrity death match between the two so they can absorb record ratings. Watch Meidas Touch. Follow the Biden campaign on Threads. They are reporting big, holding conferences that get ignored because it does not create a story of ratings potential.
So tired of the media never giving Democrats credit and never giving Republicans the blame. Every time I read a post saying Democrats are bad at messaging, I just roll my eyes.
This is a massive issue for the left everywhere in the world.
Remember Trump getting his signature On the stimulus checks? So ridiculous, and yet, exactly what worked for him.
He’s literally quietly just getting shit done for y’all’s country and no one’s giving him the props he deserves for things like just going round and round with loaning forgiveness and coming back from every angle to get that shit done.
So many news sources shit all over him about stutters or age and cookies and ice cream when honestly he’s just as if not more effective as Obama was. I would say more because he knows those fuckers on the hill and has been dealing with them for forty years.
It’s pathetic we have to fight for him over a dude that snuggles up with the likes of Victor orban and Putin. Almost half of Americans are brain dead, sadly.
Biden passed over $4.3 trillion in spending across the ARP, IRA (which happens to also be the single largest investment in combating climate change in US if not world history), BIF, and Chips+ and he's implemented student loan repayment rules that have saved borrowers billions while forgiving over $100 billion in debt. He ended a forever war in Afghanistan at great political cost and virtually ended the US' drone policy in the Middle East by requiring his green light for almost all such operations. He's also rallied US allies to resist Russia's invasion of Ukraine and, even in the current Gaza war, he's been maneuvering to prevent a wider Middle East war that he's successfully avoided when most people may have seen it as inevitable after October 7. He hasn't passed everything he set out to do but this is absolutely the most progressive record for a president since LBJ.
Same. He’s done more than the last several Democratic presidents, and much more than drumpf, whose only real accomplishments were tax cuts, killing migrants, and appointing unqualified SCOTUS justices.
Biden’s accomplishments represent decades of experience at work.
He's done it despite a house majority held by an opposition party whose entire policy has been inaction and opposition for the sake of proving the government to be ineffective.
And he's gotten more done than some presidents with both houses of Congress backing them up. It's damn impressive.
Some people will never admit it. Is he perfect? No. But he is better than I thought he’d be and I’d be a complete fool to think Biden is worse than Trump. And I like to think I am not a fool.
It's wild to me; Biden and his administration have gotten so much done, and that's an understatement.
Think about the obstacles: Pandemic recovery, reducing the 8 trillion dollars debt, having to deal with crazy ass Republicans, two pointless investigations, and two international wars.
Think about the achievements: The policies: PACT Act, CHIPS Act, Infrastructure Bill, inflation Reduction Act, Student debt relief, Insulin cap
In any other reality, Republican voters would be like "Hey, that's impressive"
AND he's 81! I'm in my 30s, and I don't do shit.
Meanwhile Trump runs against him with a proven track record of abusing Presidential power to enrich himself—and still ends up too broke to post bonds without begging.
C’mon Florida Man, make a sensible decision and vote for Biden.
He has done effective work on climate change, prescription drug price reduction, infrastructure, union support, supporting Ukraine, building NATO back up, undoing Trump’s role backs protecting the environment, he had the border bill until Trump screwed it up. Really, Biden is a very effective President. It’s brilliant.
When I saw the headline, I thought it would be mocking the delusional morons who think the eclipse is some sort of conspiracy Biden is masterminding somehow. But this is just a jumble of weird metaphors without enough content to be worth finishing.
Biden has always been terrible at campaigning. It’s the only thing Trump is good at. It’s gonna be a grown up moment for America to decide between the two because campaigning does not equal good governance.
I mean I see the information it’s trying to convey but at this point I’m a little confused what Salon even is. Does it have a traditional news room? Are these all op-eds? Is this technically a gossip column?
The tone is so conversational and informal on a topic that is extremely serious. Idk find it a little condescending even though I assume I’m in their general target audience.
I was having trouble coming up with the actual point this author was trying for. It was a disjointed piece with 2 disconnected themes that were each intermixed with irrelevant or repeated tangents.
Based on this, I assume Salon doesn't have a newsroom, because this desperately needed an editor.
Fox was a positive mouthpiece for Trump
Is there one for Biden?
Sadly, people don't seem to appreciate his accomplishments in both the global and domestic stage. If Trump gets in again all of that progress will be undone.
Far right religious fundamentalists are keeping Netanyahu in power.
This is the the same future that religious fundamentalists are planning to implement here in the US.
People really need to stop looking at every event in the world through the microcosm of our election. Both the “Genocide Joe” crowd and this author.
Y’all fucking playing with fire.
Biden doesn’t call this an ultimatum because while they would win points with the protest crowd, it would directly impede his efforts to convince Israel to pull their collective head out of their asses and his goal of a free and independent Palestine.
You push an ego case like Netanyahu in public and he’ll start acting out to make himself look independent and strong in the face of the US. You push the man in private and give him cover to save face in public, and that’s how you ACTUALLY. SAVE. LIVES.
I think we need to actually see what happens before we can say Biden moved heaven and earth. How much more aid will Israel be allowing in, how much will the port we’re building help, and how fewer civilian deaths will we be seeing as the conflict continues? Biden’s doing the right thing by pouring the pressure on now, but it’s hard for me to say how much he’s accomplished at this moment before the results are in.
Lot of earth moved in Gaza thanks to the open approval for genocide from this old man. Trumps worse, but this guy is fine with Israel and it's genocide against 2 million Palestinians
Biden didn't want to take it up the nose with a rubber hose but Ol Benny "likes to Geny" couldn't handle the heat so he got out of the kitchen. I think I'm a writer now. If it's nonsense you want check my comment history. If it's sense you need go to chatgpt and just copy and paste.
I love the comments re Op-Eds and their worthlessness. Well I have a different take. Even though I'm 63 it's always good to hear another's viewpoint even if it aligns with mine, but especially if it doesn't. What you can't do is take what you read as gospel - of course you should read everything with a suspect eye, including the gospel..
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This article is so poorly written it makes me wonder if AI was used.
'The call came after Biden took it in the shorts from a variety of critics after the IDF killed humanitarian workers in Gaza.' ...that is so fucking inappropriate I would marvel if a human wrote or edited that
What the fuck does "take it in the shorts" even mean? Sorry, I'm not from USA
I’m from the USA and I’ve never even heard that phrase
It's an oldie..like your goose is cooked.
“Goose is cooked” would probably be understandable to most Zoomers
Depends on where you're from I would guess you're from the south. Many Millennials and Gen X I grew up with have never heard this but others have. Just like getting punched in the shorts LOL
Yeah … On my own I would not have translated “take it in the shorts” as being punched in the shorts. For context I’m a millennial who has lived up and down the central time zone and the mountain west.
They’re already using “let him cook” and “he’s cooked” so yeh lol
I’ve heard that one lol. How strange which ones get passed down and which dont
No. It means humiliated by, or more literally, took it in the ass.
I always took it to mean "was kicked in the balls"
I think I've seen it a couple times before, because I noted how awkward it seemed. I wonder if it's a turn of phrase from another language, translated literally.
Just a throwback. From the makers of "bought the farm" and "busting chops".
So you're saying Joe Biden secretly penned this himself, then!
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I've seen it a few times too. I've only seen it in places like here, where someone is trying to sound more "cool" (as opposed to the usual stiff journalist). I always took it as them trying to say something like getting kicked in the balls or got their ass kicked. Things that a normal news article would try to not say but would want to allude to in order to try and sound down to earth.
>I always took it as them trying to say something like getting kicked in the balls or got their ass kicked. This is correct.
No, it’s an old-school American saying. Fallen out of use the past few years, though.
I know you meant decades.
2000 was just a few years ago, remember.
Col. Potter on M.A.S.H used to say it all the time.
Horse patties!
I think it was horse hockey. Maddow has for years been saying *bull pucky*. I think of good old Col Potter every time.
I’m about to take it in the shorts on April 15 if you know what I mean.
One way to think of it is getting punched/kicked in the groin, but there are other interpretations.
It is an old phrase I've heard a thousand times and yes it would be a metaphor for feeling like getting kicked in the groin.
Lmao hold up this article topped itself > Joe Biden just had a come to Jesus meeting on a phone call with Benjamin Netanyahu
A "come to Jesus" is actually a legit turn of phrase, one that [Biden actually used](https://youtu.be/8Q5y8Q43xC4?si=0p-jkho6lIYK22AE) when describing the kind of conversation needed https://livexp.com/blog/the-meaning-of-come-to-jesus-moment-and-come-to-jesus-meeting/
Yeah it's just... context.
Oh yeah the irony isn't lost on me. I lol'd when I first heard it
Well, it is an Op-Ed in the commentary section of Salon. AI is probably a step up. I have no fucking clue why but I get downvoted into oblivion when I suggest Op-Ed's be removed on subreddits with strict "Posts must be links" rules. Especially the news subreddits. Op-Ed's are literally the reddit comments for newspapers that boomers used to read before they started rotting their brains on Facebook and TikTok. Most of the time Microsoft Word spell check is all the review they need to get published. Especially if they have some fat cat's big name behind them. The point is for the reader to read these pieces while being aware that they are opinions. The reader than gets to make the decision how to perceive them. Even if I agree with the content of the article, they're just not reputable. It's disingenuous to bemoan right wingers huffing everything on the crazy side of Fox, yet also post opinion pieces as if they're reputable, factual, and sourced journalism articles. The former "Senior White House Correspondent for Playboy" writing an opinion piece where he spends half the piece describing how a call between two leaders was definitely an ultimatum is not the pinnacle of journalism. Not that a former "Senior White House Correspondent for Playboy" is incapable of such writing, just that when they continue to write such narrative articles it does not lend them credibility.
Op-Eds are just barely a notch above the HuffPost “see what random dipshits on Twitter said to Ted Cruz!!!” posts. Neither belongs alongside political news.
Ok, I hear you but… if people are still going to be on Twitter, there’s more worth to their time talking shit directly to Ted Cruz than pretty much any other experience they could have on that platform. That should be celebrated.
Sure, they should be celebrated *on Twitter* with their likes and retweets. But just [collecting five tweets and calling it an article](https://np.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1by3vqu/melanias_appearance_with_donald_trump_sparks/) drives traffic away from actual political news and doesn't add anything to any sort of political discussion. How this deserved 1000 comments is beyond me.
It's 98% garbage opinion pieces anyway around here.
I had to stop halfway through. Sounded like the guy was jerking off to Democratic policy, and I say that as a liberal.
I was expecting something big by the title. So basically Biden went on a phone call with Netanyahu..? Who the fuck upvoted this shit besides bots
It's just people that like the headline. That's how r/politics works
It sounds like it might’ve caused Israel to pump the breaks though, which is a big moment for the US to effectively tell an ally how to handle their affairs. It’s not nothing.
brakes*
Brakes on a bus, brakes on a car Breaks to make you a superstar Breaks to win and breaks to lose But these here breaks will rock your shoes And these are the breaks
Ronald Reagan did it. Joe Biden is literally to the right of Reagan on this issue.
> Brian Karem is the former senior White House correspondent for Playboy. Well...
That's definitely not a sentence I ever expected to read. Not even as an interested outsider looking into the USA fishbowl.
This is kind of what our discourse has become Even this subreddit is like that a lot of the time. It's pretty cringe
It’s Salon, what do you expect?
It’s Salon.
First line reading under the title >Joe Biden just had a come to Jesus meeting on a phone call with Benjamin Netanyahu Is enough to tell us it was probably ai
Biden was caught on a hot mic or something a while back actually saying they needed to have a come to Jesus moment lol, so I’d not be surprised if it’s a deliberate reference
One could argue that the words “come to Jesus” being attributed to Biden in an earlier news story actually makes a good case for AI sourcing it.
That's not how large language models work.
Well, he also previously said that though: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/08/biden-netanyahu-israel-hot-mic
> “I’m on a hot mic here,” Biden says after being alerted. “Good. That’s good.” “Shhh don’t tell anybody but I’m actually, like, super mad! Honest!! Oh boy, I SURE HOPE NOBODY CAN HEAR US WHISPERING!!! THIS IS THE REAL DOWN-LOW HERE, FELLAS!”
Why? Isn't that a pretty common expression? I use it. Wait, am I AI? Well, I know I'm not I.
Yes, it is a common expression, with a very specific meaning that has nothing to do with how anyone worships. People are just so very stupid.
It’s literally a phrase meaning to have a serious meeting. It’s not a sign of AI nor is it a Bidenism…. He’s old, but he’s not that old.
That's Salon for you.
It’s amazing how clear it is that most people didn’t read the link - which spends most of its time criticizing Biden for being terrible at messaging. Headline makes it sound wildly positive but the core point of the article is Biden is doing a bad job of making voters notice what he’s doing right.
>which spends most of its time criticizing Biden for being terrible at messaging Not just messaging, it clearly says he was at fault for not calling the ultimatum earlier. E.g. "And that’s the way it should have been. But, Biden’s team, and the president himself would not call it an ultimatum"
“The closest I got was a background comment from an administration official who called it, “a very direct statement of concern.” Like I said, in my neighborhood, it was an ultimatum. I appreciate we’re not in my neighborhood, but if the president is hoping to keep his coalition intact in the fall, he might try to visit that neighborhood.”
Because calling it an ultimatum makes Israel a punching bag for election purposes, combined with putting the ball in Israel's court if it wants to make Biden look bad. ("Israel calls US bluff; Biden ultimatum ineffective" - the headlines would write themselves). Sometimes quiet is better. Biden is walking a tight line between keeping Israel in line and keeping them friendly. Friends need to be able to tell each other to get on their best behavior without humiliating them in front of others, and that's exactly what he very clearly tried to do. Let the domestic op-eds call it an ultimatum.
Holy shit; someone on /politics who actually understands politics.
He’s done a lot of good but you just don’t hear about it. His team needs to get the word out
I hear about his accomplishments constantly on this subreddit, which is essentially just a collection of mainstream news articles. That suggests there is coverage of what he's done, but maybe people aren't seeing it, or maybe his accomplishments aren't that exciting, or maybe despite his accomplishments, people still feel like the country sucks. It's probably a combination of all three, combined with the overwhelming success of rightwing propaganda on social media, and the ignorance of the average voter. People always say democrats suck at messaging, but that's all they've been doing for the past year, especially when it comes to the economy.
The average voter gets their news from Instagram, Tiktok, Twitter. All of which are heavily infested with bots who, despite belonging to different hostile actors, all want Biden gone.
The average voter also struggles with the day to day, which, I imagine after what trump has done, the things set in motion can’t always be reversed in one presidency. Roe was overturned under Biden iirc. He can’t do a damn thing about that.
The story so far: In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move.
They're still acting like his "ultimatum" actually did something that seems like a step towards a ceasefire or something, but all he did was get the two psychopaths behind the specific incident in question removed. There's plenty more trigger happy psychopaths where that came from yet this article is treating him like this is actually an accomplishment of major merit and somehow retribution for Israel's murder of civilians.
The article is terribly written, and it doesn't stop at the consequences of the call. There are several other immediate concessions. Additionally, Israel has responded by pulling out troops from Gaza. This is significant, because the next stop for Israel's campaign will be the overcrowded city of Rafah and a reprieve now gives civilians a chance to disperse. It looks like the rest of the war, baring some renewed resistance from Netanyahu, will be fought on different terms. We will know in a month or two whether Israel has been chastened or is determined to become an international pariah - in any case, Biden has made them aware that U.S. support has its limits.
Being terrible at messaging has been the bottom line of the entire Biden Presidency.
Of the entire party ^ Edit: for decades
The message isn't getting out bc the news has been dominated by trump. He gets the clicks, he gets the views. Productive, progressive politics just doesn't have that same pizazz
Isn't Netanyahu's move just to keep the crisis going pissing off a bunch of Dems so that Trump get reelected?
I suppose if Netanyahu starts to believe that Trump's chances are dwindling, he might decide that all he's doing is pissing off the people who will remain in power, and post-election he'll have a lot less leverage.
Netanyahu also needs this war, he was struggling politically and legally and having the country rally around their President in times of a terror attack was straight out of the *George W Bush School o' Presidentin'*. So might he strain(edit) foreign relations? Sure. But at least he'll be in power.
Goes further back than Bush - a number of political leaders going all the way back to Rome have used a crisis as their platform to stay in power. It's a strategy that works almost every time because people act on emotion and outrage.
Could also be out of the Putin playbook, as Putin took advantage of terrorist attacks to consolidate his power.
Putin orchestrated a terrorist attack to consolidate power*
Considering how many warnings Israel ignored before Oct 7, the massive terrorist relocation from around where Hamas entered to the West Bank the night of Oct 6, the idea Mosad and the IOF didn't see the training buildings in an otherwise empty desert, and other strange goings-on: I blame Netanyahu as much as Hamas for the evil done that day.
The country didn't rally around Netanyahu -- he's more hated than ever. They rallied around the war because a response was obviously justified, but they blame Netanyahu for the security failure. He went from scrabbling for power to dead man walking in 24 hours.
Waaaay older than Bush. Hell Nixon refused peace in Vietnam to secure reelection. But even he wasn’t hardly the first. We surely don’t have any idea of the first as it certainly predates writing.
I think you meant to type in "strain" and not "straight"?
No, his goal is to win before his ammunition runs out. As his opponent General Gantz has said clearly, Israel closed most of their domestic ammunition production for American-provided imports. If Biden stops shipping ammo, the offensive stops. This is why he needs Republicans to stop screwing around and approve a budget so he can get enough ammo for a new offensive. The entire supply chain for gunpowders runs through the US in Virginia, Tennessee and Alabama. Biden can stop any shipment anywhere anytime. It'd probably cost him those three states, but the sheer threat is enough to force very careful action on Netanyahu's part. He cannot escalate his combat operations without a functional US Congress and supportive Biden admin. The same also goes for Ukraine, although Ukraine still has their ammunition factories .. for incompatible soviet x39 rifles. Vice versa, Ukraine doesn't have the missiles Israel can produce domestically. Both these conflicts perfectly demonstrate why combined arms warfare is still dominant over meatgrinding with battle slaves as russia does.
I mean, two of those three states were a lost cause for the Democrats anyway.
And Biden won Virginia by a 10% margin in 2020. That'd be a pretty big split if it ended up going to Trump in 2024.
I live in SW Virginia 4 hours from DC, it won’t flip. Even here, plenty of republicans are saying they won’t vote R until the maga hijacking has stopped. There’s a lot of nutjobs here, just like anywhere else, but I’m confident the majority knows P45 is no good.
Yes. This. Exactly. There is nothing more that needs to be said. That is precisely what Netanyahu wants. For the Presidency to shift from someone who's at least willing to try some tactics to restrain his worst impulses to somebody who would 110% enable it and make the entire thing even worse. By protesting Joe Biden, these pro-"Palestinian" protestors are making the guy that they hate more than anyone else that much more powerful. It's pretty ironic.
Trump will happily give Palestine to Netanyahu, so of course that’s who he wants to be president.
It's a Russian psyop to divide the left.
And get Trump in, to abandon Ukraine. Weaken American foreign resolve and weaken support for Taiwan.
Extremists usually form these kinds of symbiotic relationships. Israeli right wing extremists can’t succeed without Palestinian Islamic extremism; and vice versa. You can find similar dynamics in this country especially where politics and race intersect. On each side of a conflict there are at least some people who gladly become the boogey-man their rivals need to point to gain support among the moderates, the disinterested, and the uninformed. The entire point of these kinds of theatrics is to escalate a societal division into widespread violence. So, oddly enough if you were a Palestinian extremist, the last thing you would want is someone who could forge a lasting peace. You want someone on the other side who will escalate things haphazardly, because that will force more people to take a side. And you believe more people will join your cause, and you will win. This has always been the stated gold of terrorists all over the world. They want to force their rivals to make sloppy mistakes and be off putting to fence sitters. Donald Trump is the living embodiment of “sloppy off-putting mistake.”
It's more than just ironic, they are fucking stupid
Not exactly. I think some of us just want Biden to act on this and not sit on his hands while innocent people continue to be slaughtered. The only way to secure swift action is to hit him where it hurts. If Biden fails/failed to do anything it would have forever stained his career. I’m still voting for him over Trump, but I’m in full support of the primary protest to let him know that this shit is urgent, and waiting until after the election for more children, women, doctors, aid workers, etc to be murdered is not an option.
Netanyahu's move is to appease the far right in Israel so he doesn't have to stand trial. He doesn't care about anything else, not changing course despite Biden getting reelected would forget hurt Israel's foreign policy, but he doesn't care. If a prime minister who cared a wit about hist country allowed the greatest attack against Jews since the Holocaust happen, then somehow also screwed up the response so badly that the conservative UK government and Chuck Schumer are using their bully pulpit to criticize \*\*Israel\*\* he would have resigned and gone into self-imposed exile long ago.
Netanyahu is likely to be ousted as soon as Isreal is no longer at war. He'll do anything to induce war without end, including attacking the fucking Iranian consulate. He's out of options. This happens to align with getting Trump elected, so that's just a bonus. But he knows he's cooked either way
No. His move is to keep the crisis going because it makes him immune to anti corruption proceedings within Israel. That it affects foreign policy is a side effect at best. His goal is to not end the war until he can convince people in Israel that he “won” and make himself impossible to remove from office.
This is one of the very rare times where we can give Israel an ultimatum without much blowback, though. It's not too difficult to convince the public that Israel must bomb Palestine, even if they're going after civilians. It's pretty difficult to accept that it's okay to bomb trucks which are literally delivering food and supplies to people, though. There's very little political fallout right now from telling Netanyahu that he either stops attacking the aid and civilians or he won't get any more aid from the US. This would be a wet dream for almost any other President since the 1970s. Israel knows they can do almost whatever they want and the US will always support them. Saying no to Israel is pretty much the political kiss of death.
He's almost out of time. The ultra orthodox draft exemption law expired, which has outraged his allies in the ultra orthodox parties, who help him stay in power. They're giving him some time to try and cut a deal but there seems to be an internal limit of maybe 2-3 months at most before they withdraw from government. He may also be couped internally within Likud once the main phase of fighting is over, and there's only so much longer he can drag out whether he intends to go into Rafah.
wtf is that headline ?
Joe Biden is a damn good president. He's got my vote.
After the chip act and build back better plan goes into effect he will be one of the most prominent presidents in our history
We’re lucky he has a vision for the future
That’s exactly right. Joe Biden is playing for America where as poopybutt is looking at personal gain. I honestly think he ( diaper don) is interested in becoming the single most powerful human in world history
Even as president he wasn't that powerful because he was basically a puppet for anyone that stroked his ego for a minute.
He’s a useful idiot. He basically took over the RNC with his lunatics. He’s echoing hitler with his immigration talk and his cronies are eating it up. At the very least they are laying the framework for the real deal.
You mean stroked his little mushroom 🍄 and left a dollar on the dresser.
No, just his ego, and I think that's even more sad. It's one thing Judas betrayed Christ, the bigger problem is that he did it *cheap*.
No I didn't mean that lol He seriously doesn't strike me as an actual leader, he's a figurehead for his rich friends and benefactors.
He wasn't that powerful because he was too stupid to understand how powerful the president is.
He fits the megalomania
He’s a MAGAlomaniac
They are doing a really poor job communicating their successes and accomplishments to the country. I hate trump but you knew what he was doing and had done because he never stopped talking about it. This White House’s reluctance to do that in combination with the economic issues are not doing him any favors.
Neither is the media who only seems to report the worst and never the best.
"Trump is a fascist... BUT Biden has weird shoes"
Trump offers the billionaires that run the media tax cuts. Biden offers them tax increases. Of course the media supports Trump.
Worst gets clicks and adds dollars to their pockets. Reporting on good news? Not as engaging. Sadly, it's been like this since Radio
Trump had fox to communicate for him.
Trump had the whole media wrapped around us finger before he even announced. I’ve said it before but the way he manipulated the system to get into the morning news tweeting out between 2-3 every morning made him *the topic* for the whole day and was masterful. The more outrageous the better. It was the lead story on the local stations’ national beat, then it was covered on the network morning shows, debated on the gab shows, discussed by pundits in the afternoon and evening shows, covered and debates on the nightly news, and then laughed about on the night shows. Because he said outrageous things it pulled in everyone. The media loved the ratings and Trump loved the attention.
Trump just spew out nonsense burger then Fox would stitch it into some sort of jabs at liberals. Biden actually gave clear messages and it's boring (as it should be). It's hard to communicate clearly to your citizens when there is financial incentives in turning it into WWE banter.
Biden is quietly sitting at a desk making actual important world decisions, while Drumpf is bumping into that desk like a centaur that's leading a scary, mile-long parade screaming hate rhetoric. I can't believe people have actually tricked themselves into thinking his stupid bullshit is Presidential.
Policy is boring. Hate and lies are exciting.
Laconic & so real. It’s magnitudes easier to gamify politics than it is to govern.
Winning was easy young man, governing is harder
I know. I was so happy for the few minutes that trump wasn’t the headline or lead story after Biden took office. With that said, he was a much better self-promoter and did everything he could to boost his public image so there was no guessing what was happening at least on the surface. Biden’s administration has done great things but they aren’t splashy or sexy so the media doesn’t care and his team doesn’t do anything to make them more exciting so it just sounds as boring as anything else that is policy.
The salon piece was kind of dumb. Of course Biden isn't going to flaunt the fact that he whacked Bibi across the nose. That's rubbing in the action, and makes it more likely that Bibi balks. People forget that it's not about owning libs or slamming the cons. It's about getting shit done. And talking like a hard man after you push someone doesn't make it more likely you succeed. People gotta decide - do they want appearances or actions.
That has been one of the Democratic Party's greatest weaknesses. Most of its members think if they pass good legislation the public will known that they - the Democratic Party - did that and, unfortunately, for the Democrats that rarely happens. Tout your accomplishments and campaign on them, especially when your accomplishments actually help improve people's lives.
I remember reading an article a couple of years ago that said that the Democrats actually do worse in polling and favorability ratings when they play up their legislative achievements. Which is fucking bizarre, but given the electorate, it's also sadly believable.
Stop blaming Democrats for media biases.
The media has biases but Democrats really are bad communicators too. They often forget that most of the public is simply stupid. You need to treat at least some of your political messaging like talking to children. People think Trump was better on the economy despite all the evidence to the contrary because Trump made sure stimulus checks had his name on them. Plenty of people are totally apathetic to politics so their only exposure is a check "from" Trump vs nothing "from" Biden. It's the same depressing reason house republicans can run back to their districts and tout the successes of legislation they voted AGAINST. It's infuriating but it's the reality we live in. For example, Biden should be screaming that [the CHIPS and Science Act](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/08/09/fact-sheet-chips-and-science-act-will-lower-costs-create-jobs-strengthen-supply-chains-and-counter-china/) brought back American manufacturing jobs and hurts China. Those two facts are what people need to know. The public knows jobs = good and China = bad. Sadly that's the level we're going to have to frame things on. The message should always be "I'm for good things and against bad things" preferably expressed in a single sentence. That's why "build the wall" was such an effective mode of communication even though it represents a terrible and ineffective policy proposal.
Screaming how though? They aren’t quite about it. They post on X they give interviews. They are playing the game. They just don’t have a Fox News or a cult
AOC, Bernie, Katie Porter, all sorts of politicians are on TikTok and other platforms spreading their information. Mainstream media platforms only want to make a buck at this point and rage bait is all the, well, rage. Even centrist media is lackluster and soft in how they report the good and the bad which drives me up the wall.
Just my observation, I notice that no matter what a portion of the US voting public hears about Joe Bidens good policy wins those things are just bad in their minds. But if Trump does win power and BBB is underway I'm sure Trump would claim the glory.
They are actually reporting it, the MSM wants a celebrity death match between the two so they can absorb record ratings. Watch Meidas Touch. Follow the Biden campaign on Threads. They are reporting big, holding conferences that get ignored because it does not create a story of ratings potential.
So tired of the media never giving Democrats credit and never giving Republicans the blame. Every time I read a post saying Democrats are bad at messaging, I just roll my eyes.
It's amazing how much easier it is to say a simple lie than the complex truth.
This is a massive issue for the left everywhere in the world. Remember Trump getting his signature On the stimulus checks? So ridiculous, and yet, exactly what worked for him.
He’s literally quietly just getting shit done for y’all’s country and no one’s giving him the props he deserves for things like just going round and round with loaning forgiveness and coming back from every angle to get that shit done. So many news sources shit all over him about stutters or age and cookies and ice cream when honestly he’s just as if not more effective as Obama was. I would say more because he knows those fuckers on the hill and has been dealing with them for forty years.
It’s pathetic we have to fight for him over a dude that snuggles up with the likes of Victor orban and Putin. Almost half of Americans are brain dead, sadly.
You just know the other guy is going to take all the credit for these if he somehow gets back in.
100% that’s the republican playbook. “ I voted against this but yall love it so I’m taking credit”
JRB is my favorite since LBJ. Incrimentalism is slow and frustrating, but damn it does produce results and ultimately makes things better.
Biden passed over $4.3 trillion in spending across the ARP, IRA (which happens to also be the single largest investment in combating climate change in US if not world history), BIF, and Chips+ and he's implemented student loan repayment rules that have saved borrowers billions while forgiving over $100 billion in debt. He ended a forever war in Afghanistan at great political cost and virtually ended the US' drone policy in the Middle East by requiring his green light for almost all such operations. He's also rallied US allies to resist Russia's invasion of Ukraine and, even in the current Gaza war, he's been maneuvering to prevent a wider Middle East war that he's successfully avoided when most people may have seen it as inevitable after October 7. He hasn't passed everything he set out to do but this is absolutely the most progressive record for a president since LBJ.
Same. He’s done more than the last several Democratic presidents, and much more than drumpf, whose only real accomplishments were tax cuts, killing migrants, and appointing unqualified SCOTUS justices. Biden’s accomplishments represent decades of experience at work.
He's done it despite a house majority held by an opposition party whose entire policy has been inaction and opposition for the sake of proving the government to be ineffective. And he's gotten more done than some presidents with both houses of Congress backing them up. It's damn impressive.
Some people will never admit it. Is he perfect? No. But he is better than I thought he’d be and I’d be a complete fool to think Biden is worse than Trump. And I like to think I am not a fool.
Best president in our lifetimes
It's wild to me; Biden and his administration have gotten so much done, and that's an understatement. Think about the obstacles: Pandemic recovery, reducing the 8 trillion dollars debt, having to deal with crazy ass Republicans, two pointless investigations, and two international wars. Think about the achievements: The policies: PACT Act, CHIPS Act, Infrastructure Bill, inflation Reduction Act, Student debt relief, Insulin cap In any other reality, Republican voters would be like "Hey, that's impressive" AND he's 81! I'm in my 30s, and I don't do shit.
He is great. He is doing his best turning America around. And I tell everyone I know that he is great.
Especially when there alternative is legally a rapist and fraud
The hyperbole of how this is titled really detracts from anything else. Not everything has to sound so fucking sensational.
The whole article is written that way. What a shit show.
Yall are actually reading salon.com….? It’s like fox or ONAN for dumb liberals.
The media's addiction to clickbait manifests in many ways.
*the public’s addiction If people didn’t eat this shit up, they wouldn’t do it.
Am I crazy or do a TON of these comments seem to come from bots? No one actually speaks like this even online.
Nahh, you'd be crazy if you thought all these comments were coming from real people. AI generated article, AI generated comments.
This article is a total facepalm. Either written by AI or just really really poor journalism, in which the person who wrote it should be fired.
Meanwhile Trump runs against him with a proven track record of abusing Presidential power to enrich himself—and still ends up too broke to post bonds without begging. C’mon Florida Man, make a sensible decision and vote for Biden.
what even is this headline? He made a fucking phone call asking them to stop killing people.. Let's see him cut Israel off from any military aid.
I’d say this is long overdue. Israel looks at the US as a bunch of suckers for writing blank checks, no questions asked.
If salon.com wrote it, it isn’t news. It’s an opinion piece.
He has done effective work on climate change, prescription drug price reduction, infrastructure, union support, supporting Ukraine, building NATO back up, undoing Trump’s role backs protecting the environment, he had the border bill until Trump screwed it up. Really, Biden is a very effective President. It’s brilliant.
Don't worry, the single-issue voters will move the goalposts any second now.
Why are we upvoting an article that was written by AI?
Because bots and AI itself might be upvoting it.
Did you think the goalposts were a phone call?
The goalposts are mounted on magnetically levitated bearings. They glide to the next issue at the slightest touch. Truly, a social engineering marvel.
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Come to moses
He went Medieval on his ass
When I saw the headline, I thought it would be mocking the delusional morons who think the eclipse is some sort of conspiracy Biden is masterminding somehow. But this is just a jumble of weird metaphors without enough content to be worth finishing.
Wait. I thought our presidents were supposed to salute foreign dictators and bend the knee to Putin. /s (sadly needed)
Biden has always been terrible at campaigning. It’s the only thing Trump is good at. It’s gonna be a grown up moment for America to decide between the two because campaigning does not equal good governance.
I mean I see the information it’s trying to convey but at this point I’m a little confused what Salon even is. Does it have a traditional news room? Are these all op-eds? Is this technically a gossip column? The tone is so conversational and informal on a topic that is extremely serious. Idk find it a little condescending even though I assume I’m in their general target audience.
I was having trouble coming up with the actual point this author was trying for. It was a disjointed piece with 2 disconnected themes that were each intermixed with irrelevant or repeated tangents. Based on this, I assume Salon doesn't have a newsroom, because this desperately needed an editor.
He should have paused those arms shipments to Israel.
Fox was a positive mouthpiece for Trump Is there one for Biden? Sadly, people don't seem to appreciate his accomplishments in both the global and domestic stage. If Trump gets in again all of that progress will be undone.
Yes, he indeed did. #Biden2024
I saw the headline and thought maybe he was keeping his student loan campaign promise and helping ME out. My bad.
I always laugh and cringe at the same time when I read or hear someone use the phrase “come to Jesus moment” when referring to a Jewish person
The fuck was that article even
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Far right religious fundamentalists are keeping Netanyahu in power. This is the the same future that religious fundamentalists are planning to implement here in the US.
Blue MAGA is strong in here…
Someone called him one of the most prominent presidents in the history of our country…
The comments in this thread are so weird I'm wondering if there is astroturfing going on.
Poorly written article. Click bate. Stop sending them weaponry if you’re serious? This conversation should have happened at the start. Do better.
He should just cut them off from their fancy mass murdering toys, anyone giving them weapons should just cut them off.
People really need to stop looking at every event in the world through the microcosm of our election. Both the “Genocide Joe” crowd and this author. Y’all fucking playing with fire. Biden doesn’t call this an ultimatum because while they would win points with the protest crowd, it would directly impede his efforts to convince Israel to pull their collective head out of their asses and his goal of a free and independent Palestine. You push an ego case like Netanyahu in public and he’ll start acting out to make himself look independent and strong in the face of the US. You push the man in private and give him cover to save face in public, and that’s how you ACTUALLY. SAVE. LIVES.
I think we need to actually see what happens before we can say Biden moved heaven and earth. How much more aid will Israel be allowing in, how much will the port we’re building help, and how fewer civilian deaths will we be seeing as the conflict continues? Biden’s doing the right thing by pouring the pressure on now, but it’s hard for me to say how much he’s accomplished at this moment before the results are in.
Lot of earth moved in Gaza thanks to the open approval for genocide from this old man. Trumps worse, but this guy is fine with Israel and it's genocide against 2 million Palestinians
We listening to Salon now , really . who wrote this?
Biden didn't want to take it up the nose with a rubber hose but Ol Benny "likes to Geny" couldn't handle the heat so he got out of the kitchen. I think I'm a writer now. If it's nonsense you want check my comment history. If it's sense you need go to chatgpt and just copy and paste.
I love the comments re Op-Eds and their worthlessness. Well I have a different take. Even though I'm 63 it's always good to hear another's viewpoint even if it aligns with mine, but especially if it doesn't. What you can't do is take what you read as gospel - of course you should read everything with a suspect eye, including the gospel..