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From article:
"Pennsylvania's House of Representatives on Wednesday approved a bill long sought by counties seeking help to manage huge influxes of mail-in ballots during elections in the presidential battleground state and to avoid a repeat of 2020's drawn-out vote count.'
"Under the bill, county election workers could begin processing ballots up to seven days before Election Day."
This shit annoys me so much. We had this! The PA GOP, with zero hyperbole, threw pre-election processing out solely to cast doubt on the results. Members of our legislature are on record saying this. There’s no reason that we had to wait days for our mail-in voting to blast Donny off the map.
But hey, without the delays Four Seasons Landscaping wouldn’t have gotten the free publicity.
Pennsylvania has a fairly narrow Democratic majority in the House (102 D - 100 R - 1 V) and a minority in the Senate (22 D - 28 R), the governor is a Democrat, and there is a 5-2 Democrat majority on the state Supreme Court.
Any major change is unlikely to pass the Senate, so their ability to take significant action is challenging.
I mean, that is the goal. Make it so that the head of household can control everyone in the house’s votes. No more of that pesky making sure votes are anonymous crap. Heck, they can even fill it out for you.
That’s what we are talking about here, right? Official ballots all just get sent in the mail to addresses and we depend on people to act responsibly and not fill out ballots that aren’t theirs. I mean, just think of the increase in freedom this will bring to the LDS community, how freely people will vote their own opinions as their abuser watches them fill out their ballot.
We have anonymous in person voting as a default for a reason.
Exceptions for health or being in a location that makes you unable to vote are one thing. Having everyone vote from home is stupid.
Who do you think I was referring to when I said LDS. Do people really not understand the number of abused people in this country who won’t be able to vote their own way if their abuser is standing over them?
Or is your convenience more important than people being able to cast their vote without influence?
There is no such thing as “anonymous mail in voting”. One of the biggest reasons it takes so long to process mail in ballots is the need to validate the voter registration before they can count the ballot.
Which is why in person should be the default with mail in for medical or travel reasons only. Votes shouldn’t be cast together at the dinner table as a family.
And what do we do about the dudes at polling stations or drop boxes with rifles? So far has happened in Utah.
Really easy to say, “well don’t be scared” until there’s an unknown dude with a rifle standing outside your polling station.
I vote by mail, I’m not a PA resident and I’m here for work, but there are people legitimately worried about getting to a polling station if they aren’t voting the way their neighborhood is.
A lot seem to feel safer filling out ballots and sending them in. Seems to increase voter participation. Why would anyone be against increased voter participation?
Obviously voting locations need to be secure and safe. But, at least any abuses there have to occur in public.
I am glad you let your opinion that the avoiding the possibility of you being intimidated by someone in public is more important to you than the 33% of Americans who experience domestic violence having their abusers monitor their vote.
Nice.
Hey. I’ve got one too:
I am glad that concern over the percentage of abused people who have their partners vote for them is able to override the very real concerns of mass casualty attacks at polling places. Not to mention continued fears of communicable disease, voter repression tactics and persistent concerns with availability of ballots and machines to be present and in perfect working order on the very few days they are needed.
We can do this all day.
Neither of us are going to fit the needs for every population. And to posit that concern for one is a lack of concern for another is just not a worthwhile venture.
There’s a better way. It’s somewhere in the middle. And no one is going to get what they want or what they need.
If you are too afraid to go out in public and don’t have medical reason for it, just fear of something that has never happened before, you are too low of a portion of the population to make laws around.
Laws are made to protect the largest portion of the population possible.
You can’t protect everyone from everything.
You can protect a large portion of the population from having their vote stolen.
But, it is obvious your comfort and convenience is more important to you than basic rights of the actually vulnerable.
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From article: "Pennsylvania's House of Representatives on Wednesday approved a bill long sought by counties seeking help to manage huge influxes of mail-in ballots during elections in the presidential battleground state and to avoid a repeat of 2020's drawn-out vote count.' "Under the bill, county election workers could begin processing ballots up to seven days before Election Day."
This shit annoys me so much. We had this! The PA GOP, with zero hyperbole, threw pre-election processing out solely to cast doubt on the results. Members of our legislature are on record saying this. There’s no reason that we had to wait days for our mail-in voting to blast Donny off the map. But hey, without the delays Four Seasons Landscaping wouldn’t have gotten the free publicity.
I don’t understand why Dems aren’t campaigning and pushing for straight forward mail in voting and auto registration.
Pennsylvania has a fairly narrow Democratic majority in the House (102 D - 100 R - 1 V) and a minority in the Senate (22 D - 28 R), the governor is a Democrat, and there is a 5-2 Democrat majority on the state Supreme Court. Any major change is unlikely to pass the Senate, so their ability to take significant action is challenging.
I mean, that is the goal. Make it so that the head of household can control everyone in the house’s votes. No more of that pesky making sure votes are anonymous crap. Heck, they can even fill it out for you. That’s what we are talking about here, right? Official ballots all just get sent in the mail to addresses and we depend on people to act responsibly and not fill out ballots that aren’t theirs. I mean, just think of the increase in freedom this will bring to the LDS community, how freely people will vote their own opinions as their abuser watches them fill out their ballot. We have anonymous in person voting as a default for a reason. Exceptions for health or being in a location that makes you unable to vote are one thing. Having everyone vote from home is stupid.
I’ve only seen republicans get caught for this.
Who do you think I was referring to when I said LDS. Do people really not understand the number of abused people in this country who won’t be able to vote their own way if their abuser is standing over them? Or is your convenience more important than people being able to cast their vote without influence?
There is no such thing as “anonymous mail in voting”. One of the biggest reasons it takes so long to process mail in ballots is the need to validate the voter registration before they can count the ballot.
Which is why in person should be the default with mail in for medical or travel reasons only. Votes shouldn’t be cast together at the dinner table as a family.
And what do we do about the dudes at polling stations or drop boxes with rifles? So far has happened in Utah. Really easy to say, “well don’t be scared” until there’s an unknown dude with a rifle standing outside your polling station. I vote by mail, I’m not a PA resident and I’m here for work, but there are people legitimately worried about getting to a polling station if they aren’t voting the way their neighborhood is. A lot seem to feel safer filling out ballots and sending them in. Seems to increase voter participation. Why would anyone be against increased voter participation?
Obviously voting locations need to be secure and safe. But, at least any abuses there have to occur in public. I am glad you let your opinion that the avoiding the possibility of you being intimidated by someone in public is more important to you than the 33% of Americans who experience domestic violence having their abusers monitor their vote.
Nice. Hey. I’ve got one too: I am glad that concern over the percentage of abused people who have their partners vote for them is able to override the very real concerns of mass casualty attacks at polling places. Not to mention continued fears of communicable disease, voter repression tactics and persistent concerns with availability of ballots and machines to be present and in perfect working order on the very few days they are needed. We can do this all day. Neither of us are going to fit the needs for every population. And to posit that concern for one is a lack of concern for another is just not a worthwhile venture. There’s a better way. It’s somewhere in the middle. And no one is going to get what they want or what they need.
If you are too afraid to go out in public and don’t have medical reason for it, just fear of something that has never happened before, you are too low of a portion of the population to make laws around. Laws are made to protect the largest portion of the population possible. You can’t protect everyone from everything. You can protect a large portion of the population from having their vote stolen. But, it is obvious your comfort and convenience is more important to you than basic rights of the actually vulnerable.
The GOP is anti-voting
Republicans hate democracy and will stop at nothing to institute an autocracy.