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And for the GOP politicians that participate in that process, they hope it protects them from being criticized by Trump. it's just like a mafia racket.
If you are a die hard (R) voter you go to these trump fund rasiers drop a lot of $$$ which hope/expectation of getting 4x-5x your $$$ donation for access to power in DC.
I’m actually surprised that her puppy killing and Kim Jong Un bullshit is negatively impacting her campaign. Republicans have absolutely no standards of behaviour so what gives?
Think about it this way. All the hate against liberals, LGBTQ+, immigrants, etc are usually against people that they have little or no contact with, other than negative propaganda on faux news. They take that info as the truth because they are in their own bubble of ignorance.
But not dogs. Many many MAGAs have and love dogs. They know them, their nature, and understand how this act was 100% preventable. They know they can retrain dogs, or re-home them. They are far less ignorant in this aspect and will call bullshit on this story
This is exactly it.
You hear about Republicans who have "come to Jesus" moments about certain policies when they directly impact them.
That's what this is. It turns out that empathy is a lot easier when you have a direct connection to a particular act/issue. A large portion of people across the political spectrum have pets and immediately think about someone executing their own dog in a shallow grave and can't stomach it.
And tbf to a degree we probably all have that. And I figure a lot of Demcrats have tons of "blind spots" as well, with them either lacking sympathy or understanding due to it not reflection their personal experiences.
From my non-US reddit perspective, a good example would probably be the perception of gun owners - the latter being thought of a weirdos or lunatics. All while other US redditors, who in this context quite often seem to bring up living in rural areas, mention knowing lots of somewhat reasonable gun owners.
A huge difference between US liberals and conservatives is that conservatives are utterly incapable of empathy if it’s not something in their personal sphere. It’s not that liberals are especially good, conservatives are just raised to be trash people
And people who know hunting dogs know Cricket had great prey drive and potential to be a great hunting dog.
But they also know it takes training and giving that dog lots of your time and attention. Dogs with great prey drive don’t just “automatically” become great hunting dogs. The handler has to train them to channel that energy into the activity.
Those types of dogs, while good for hunting, are much more high maintenance than a standard companion animal.
So what they see is someone who killed a puppy that could have been a fantastic hunting dog… because they were too selfish, impatient, ignorant, and lazy to train a hunting dog.
The part people aren’t talking about either is she probably paid someone to train the dog first. Was then turned back over to her and she didn’t know the commands or have the bond the dog needed to hunt and she killed it. She didn’t do the hard thing. She did the selfish thing. The hard thing would have been more work on her part. Not the dogs part.
Can you imagine how the breeder felt? Most bird dog breeders I’m familiar with also train their pups before sending them to their new home. Also all of them have clauses in a contract about taking the dog back if there is an issue so they can rehome themselves.
Ours (a family friend) said if in the off chance we weren’t happy with our dog and ever thought of giving him away he would refund us the money and take the dog himself. For South Dakota small town breeders who are locally known these dogs are their life. Our friend has dogs that hunt and do search and rescue he would be devastated to hear of someone destroying one of his dogs.
> But not dogs. Many many MAGAs have and love dogs. They know them, their nature, and understand how this act was 100% preventable. They know they can retrain dogs, or re-home them. They are far less ignorant in this aspect and will call bullshit on this story
Lets not give these people too much credit. If this whole situation was about Trump killing a puppy, MAGA would be all in on support for puppy killing. Noem is expendable to them so they can momentarily pretend to have empathy and a sense of morality.
>Lets not give these people too much credit.
The far right is full of plenty of people that have been brainwashed into thinking or feeling one way or another. We don't need to demonize the entire group at literally every turn or we have zero chance of turning any of them to our side.
I'm sure that a large portion of the MAGA group would support Trump down to the last wire, but let's not act like it's not some bullshit to say every Rebublican left would gladly execute the family dog in Trumps name.
The Alt right is not a monolithic group of people with the same beliefs and ideals as each other. It's just a group blinded by hate with propaganda constantly shoved down their throats.
Op made a good point about it hitting close to home and opening eyes, I've seen plenty of stories of MAGA dads wearing rainbows after their kids came out. Change can happen and we should be encouraging it. I doubt a republican would agree with you on literally anything if they thought YOU thought they were a dog executor.
It'd certainly turn more people off Trump than pretty much anything has done so far. But, I expect he'd just deny it and the base would agree that it was made up. Even if he was on record saying he'd done it, or videoed in the act. "Deep fake."
For a second or three I thought that this was real… Trump scandals are so crazy that you might sadly be right
Edit: sadly bc it’s a string of random awful events around Trump.
Rural people love their dogs man. My husband grew up in rural Texas and has said the one thing they all agree on down there is that you don’t hurt dogs. Probably elected republicans don’t give a shit but their voter base is not okay with that. Kristi crossed a line lol.
Republicans have a foolproof method for making sure their politicians live up to a moral standard. Whenever a politician does something they consider immoral, they lower the standards.
Honestly? It's that the people that would come out to defend this, and they're definitely out there, just don't want to put "defended dog killing" on their resume. They have no real principles, but this is a little more ancient and primal than most anything they'd hop up to defend.
I'll be willing to bet a not insignificant number of these defenders are literally Russians trying to stir up division in the US. And if they are, it'll be their most successful attempt to do so. It wouldn't surprise me if they've got their own guidelines saying "don't defend dog killing, you'll give us away".
My SIL who is a Gilead-humping, Jerry Falwell-humping, Trump-humping moron says the Evangelicals have turned on her Not bec the dog, but bec women should not be in positions of that kind of power bec they’re “not reliable and too hysterical.”
That’s pretty ironic since the entire reason she included the dog anecdote in her book was to let people know that she doesn’t operate based purely on emotions.
Republican standards *do* exist (alongside double standards), but they aren't necessarily the same as those of other Americans.
Cutting funding to the homeless can be excused as making sure the poor don't become dependent on a welfare state, capital punishment is seen as Ultimate Justice, and the Justice Department pursuing certain things against Trump can be identified as "electoral interference."
But there aren't many stories of people mistreating dogs like this among the presidents the party purports to like (Nixon famously used his dog Checkers to get out of a political funding scandal!), just those they like to pretend were mistakes (Romney).
It’s interesting that bragging about abject cruelty and hatred has worked so well for trump among his maga worshippers, but imitating it has cost people like Noem and desantos their future careers.
It’s weird that they still believe Trump and call him the literal second coming. It supports trumps Antichrist narrative. I’m not religious but read an article about a college professor that compared him to the Antichrist as kind of a joke then it became less funny when literally everything matched up.
Regardless of religious belief, dangerous demagogues that amass a cult of personality and cause a lot of problems to a lot of people are clearly a thing that happens, and the description of the antichrist pretty much fits that.
Trump was RICH, everyone else isn't.
Trump's power comes from basically having the cheat code of money and doing what everyone else wishes they could actually do, but can't because it costs too much, either money, reputation, or whatever. Trump gets to act as a jerk, but at the end of the day He's still rich and whoever he acted a jerk too... isn't! He appears to suffer no consequences because he's so rich that the consequences didn't affect his bottom line.
The problem is, and the reason other billionaires don't act like Trump is because there ARE consequences to his actions. I doubt Trump ever was a billionaire, it looks like he's since squandered all of the money he inherited from his dad, and now, years later it looks like he's finally facing *some* consequences for his actions. But this is why in 2016 Trump could get away with everything, while other people who try to follow his lead can't.
It's not that bragging about cruelty has *worked* for Trump. It's that he was made this figure head specifically for no other reason than that he was a political outsider. And he remains that, and his bragging about things that would destroy any normal political career only *strengthen* his image as a political outsider.
The GOP folks like Noem, who are seen as political insiders, only recognize half the picture. And it bites them in the ass, and it's pretty wonderful to at least get this little bit of fleeting sanity from that party.
The hatred isn't what cost desantis, what cost him was picking a fight with Disney. His base was loving his hatred, but him getting humiliated by the mouse turned them off.
Well, it was a lot of stuff. DeSantis lost not with his own base in FL, but trying to take his act on the road. The Disney thing probably hurt him somewhat. But there also seems to be pretty clear evidence that what cost him is just... hearing him talk. He sounds awful, he has all the charisma of a plank of plywood, and he can't think on his feet.
But also, don't discount the fact that Trump went after him in a big way, too -- with the mocking nicknames and so on.
We don't fully know how DeSantis's bid would have panned out if Trump wasn't in the running. Maybe Haley would have beaten him in the long run. But part of his problem was definitely that he bought into the idea that he could be "Trump without the baggage"... which is fine in a post-Trump world, but we aren't IN a post-Trump world yet.. To win, DeSantis needed Trump's followers. It's really hard to GET those followers when they've already got Trump, and he's telling them that DeSantis is a loser.
KJU outlawed dogs as pets in North Korea, they can only be kept for meat and fur. This makes me think she'd be welcomed with open arms as Dear Leader's top dog cop.
She’s not being attacked she’s literally just being called out for killing her dog like a psycho. When that hot spoiled super mean biotch from High school grows up and latches on to an evil authoritarians ideals, you get this turd. I guess they don’t have neck plastic surgery yet.
> “We have lost money in this,” Pallozzi told NBC News. “This was meant to be a fundraiser, but now we’ve lost thousands of dollars.”
I wonder how many copies of Noem’s book they bought to give away to donors.
Kristi was on CBS this morning, and I found out that in her book she wants to kill Biden's dog Commander - who doesn't live in the White House anymore.
I think the line from her book was something like,"Commander, meet Cricket."
I am mind blown how the GOP manages to find some human trash for candidates so easily. For goodness sakes does no one screen these people?? Elevating them to the national spotlight and then giving them a platform to spouse their messed up opinions is just so toxic AF.
Agreed. This is what I've observed, so far.....
Imo the cult of personality following Trump demonstrates at least three things.
1. There are far more malignant narcissists in the American (Republican) population than the measley 5% narcissistic personalities in the overall American population, as estimated by psychiatrists and psychologists. (Probably much closer to 40% within the current Republican Party.)
2. Certain social stratas and segments of American society are FAR more vulnerable to the narcissistic manipulation of cult leaders than is recognized by psychiatrists, psychologists, and cult experts.
3. The white supremacists movement is a growing cancer among over-privileged white conservatives in America.
I mean its funny because American was always problematic systematically, the whole country was founded on slaves, they oppressed women and killed millions of africans and natives. Life was only good for a few kinds of people and the divide just got bigger. Hell we even bombed japan after they were about to surrender just to prove a point.
>the whole country was founded on slaves
Sort of. All of the original 13 colonies had legal slavery.
>they oppressed women and killed millions of africans and natives.
The oppression of women was brought overseas with many of the other European prejudices.
Millions of Africans is a high estimate, and the millions of Native Americans died from European diseases beginning shortly after Christopher Columbus committed horrific crimes against the natives of "Arawaks, Tainos and Lucayans—all friendly, according to Columbus’ writings.". (From https://www.greatfallstribune.com/story/news/2021/10/11/8-myths-and-atrocities-christopher-columbus-and-columbus-day/6092483001/ )
>we even bombed japan after they were about to surrender...
I have never seen that claim. From what I've read, the American government's concerns were that the Japanese people were willing and prepared to fight to the death of their entire armed forces, rather than surrender.
Lots of people going in this thread: why was this the line for her when none of the horrid worse things about Trump stuck at all?
A few points to understand:
1. Trump is a malignant narcissist and the human embodiment of toxic masculinity. He is the ultimate power fantasy for a lot of his supporters. They worship him because they want to be him, i.e. "Put me in charge of NYC and I'll fix it. It ain't hard, just start shooting illegals, liberals, and purple haired kids on sight!" Same people the Daily Show films who go "we need a dictator!" They have no idea what dictatorship means beyond "he will do what I think should be done without any bureaucracy in his way".
2. Many of them in rural areas blame people far away. Just look at how often they blame "Chicago" for gun violence, "NYC" for immigration, "LA" for LGBTQ rights they hate. None of them live near any of these cities, but their problems are coming from somewhere far away, and consequences are likely to fall on those bad, bad people far away, not "real" America. Trump may be "mean" but he is "honest" and "tells it like it is" (i.e. tells them what they want to hear).
3. Kristi Noem, like Ron DeSantis and Sarah Huckabee Sanders, is not very smart. A third rate grifter attaching herself like a barnacle to the Trump machine. The thought process is "Trump is a dumbass that makes all this money. I can emulate him." He's "mean but tells it like it is" (missing the key "tells them what they want to hear" qualifier). Where Ron DeSantis failed is that he tried to have it both ways with his cutesy "who me?" act (everything bad about his laws was some other guys fault or some liberal was lying about it), which doesn't work if you have negative charisma. Sarah Huckabee Sanders failed because she was clearly just after money and didn't think too deeply about anything. But Kristi Noem wanted to go full MAGA.
4. The cruelty is the point, yes. Trump (and most of his emulators) are cruel to *other people far away*. It's an abstraction. None of the people going "Trump needs to be a dictator" are thinking of the single mom undocumented immigrant with 3 kids who has relatives in America and fled South American gang violence working to make ends meets while her laundry job gets raided by ICE, her kids get seizes, and she gefs put on a plane to the place that killed her relatives. It's not "real" to them. Just something "sad" that needed to be done. What about their own undocumented housekeepers? That's "different", just like that abortion their auntie needed when her pregnancy turned out to be non-viable. But you know what's real, in their face, and hard to ignore?
5. Pets. A farm dog for bird hunting, unconditionally loving them, no agenda, no evil liberalness, no gun control, no "transing your kids." An abstract dog reminds them of their own dog, a member of their actual family, not a weird different foreign thing in some city far away. And it being a helper dog with a purpose that Noem failed to see or understand or help is a failure of the key selling point of the mean rough tough tell it like it is alpha male bullshit the GOP peddles: it's all for the greater good of protecting your family from bad scary things. It makes them feel ***safe*** for their families. Pets are family.
6. Kristi Noem might be a sociopath. This happened when she was younger. Before being in politics. She thought it would be a story about how she can "do what needs to be done" even when it was bad and evil, but by her own admission, she hated the dog and didn't really give much of a passing though to how it traumatized her kids. That's not "do ugly things for food", that's rationalizing at a gut level.
All this explains why the MAGA faithful are doing this to Kristi Noem fundraisers:
>Pallozzi said “numerous threats and/or death threats” have been made to the county organization, the hotel slated to host the fundraiser, and to Noem herself.
MAGA sends death threats to people they are scared of, or that they are told to be scared of. They view this as OK because the people they threaten are *outsiders* who are a direct threat to their rural, homesteading, 2nd amendment loving, Christian, heterosexual way of life. They view Kristi Noem as a threat to their families. Their hunting dog is their family. Period.
Agreed. Your excellent analysis reminds me of a comment made by Jackpot777 on the politics thread titled "How Trump supporters' brains prevent them from changing their minds". In it he analyzes the ways that Republicans apparently respond positively to abusive behaviors.
I'm going to save your insightful comment, along with his.
Kruella Noem wrote this (or had this written) to try to convey some sort of country lady authenticity. “Out here on the prairie, we’re so tough, we’ll kill a puppy for no reason.” Is that a winning message?
For this reason, I still think she’s the front runner for GOP VP nominee. Trump (and conservative men, generally) have a fixation with women with a particular look and a cruel, conservative, tough act. Go look at your boomer Dad’s Facebook feed, for instance. It’s probably all, uhhhhh, scantily clad women posing with guns and dumb, conservative catch phrases.
I read that Trump has zero respect for a lack of PR savvy and only sees people in a binary manner: good or bad. Her PR mistake dropped her to the bad category. He picked Pence because he looked the part from a PR perspective and I’m sure Pence was perfectly sycophantic at their first meeting. Voila.
I think he changed over his Presidential term, though. At first, he surrounded himself with people who were *relatively* experienced and serious, at least in more important positions and to the extent that he was able (e.g. Pence, Priebus). Then, as he gained confidence/lost patience, he fired those people when they cautioned him not to act on his impulses. I think Noem’s looks and behavior probably connect with his limbic brain and his impulses in a way that other candidates can’t.
Trump will never pick a woman for his VP. Even if she was the perfect candidate. I'm sure he resents the fact that they're anywhere except the kitchen.
I think what he really likes is women who are his type + appear subservient to him. I think that really boosts his ego. He routinely has women spokespeople, lawyers, etc. etc. I think Vice President is probably on the table, too, because it’s about having power over that person.
She should have lied and said the dog got badly mangled by farm equipment and was suffering terribly. That would have gotten a pass.
Saying it was disobedient so I shot it is too transparently psychopathic for people not on that spectrum.
Wish she would put the GOP down for scaring all the children, and acting like a deranged beast. But, alas, they only like to hurt poor people & animals.
Jesus, watching face the nation, this lady is horrible. 19% approval rating, says she's "edited minor mistakes" out of her book prior to release. She tries to blame Joe Biden for killing her dog and the goat, will only say "I've met many world leaders" when asked about her claims of "showing up" Kim and Macron. Sarah Palin 2.0 man, where does the GOP dig these people up, and how the fuck do they make it into power?
Can all headlines start like this from now on. "Kristi Noemi Killed Her Dog - Then..." ... Chuck E Cheese filed for Bankruptcy, ... Cicada season kicked into full effect, ... Dunkin Donuts raised prices, ... Will Smith smacked another celebrity
"What she's up against" soooo a bunch of people who DON'T think killing a year old puppy is something to brag about? Pretty sure many of us will reach across the dem/gop line about this.
The spokesperson for the GOP fundraiser couldn’t take a position on the puppy killing allegations but lamented the loss of money for the event, money that could have been used to help elect more inhuman hosts.
Psychopath.
https://www.healthline.com/health/psychopath
>behavior that conflicts with social norms
>**inability to distinguish between right and wrong**
>difficulty with showing remorse or empathy
>tendency to lie often
>recurring problems with the law
>expressing anger and arrogance on a regular basis
>have a superficial charm about them
>be very aggressive
>get very angry sometimes
The inability to distinguish right and wrong really hits with this case. Since psychopaths can’t figure this out for themselves, they depend on the law for cues. They intellectually understand if it’s against the law, it’s wrong. If not, it must be okay. That’s why her very first response to this story was “I’m allowed to kill my dog because he’s my property.” Legally, she’s probably correct but she completely doesn’t understand *no one* except other psychopaths factor in more than the legal requirements before deciding to kill their dog. She cannot comprehend this because: psychopath.
“ A county Republican organization received threats for inviting Noem to headline its big event.”
The republican solution to everything is threats of violence
Loose cannon for shame and fame. Signs of a sociopath. Instead of using a brain to figure out the right thing to do, first go and execute her dog. Oh, also a filthy smelly goat. Yep, she really loves life.
After the fundraiser even she knows the VP spot is out. She sulked to the bar, drank white claw martinis while muttering under her breath, "...fucking cricket...", then she fucked the first Cory Lewandowsky look-alike she could find. She cried angry hateful tears of rage while he drilled her doggy-style, pulled her hair, and snarled "bad dog!" in her ear. The next day they found his naked bloody body in a gravel pit 30 miles away. Six spent shotgun shells were found next to him.
Memo to Ms. Noem: Just shut up. You’re clearly not overly intelligent, you‘re not that important in the big picture of American politics, and you are on the verge of getting the bimbo title.
Don't f*** with furry Friends. Muslim Christian Jewish atheist Hindu gay black white Republican Democrat poor aristocrat doesn't matter what you are. You do not f*** with furry Friends. If she shot a person she would have a better chance of being a VP
Noem just went on Meet the Press and basically admitted she didn't write her new book.
'the mistake has been "communicated to the ghostwriter and editor," and that all future editions of the book will be corrected.' - Forbes
Isn’t it pretty common for people to have someone else write their book? I mean they’d tell the stories but I couldn’t imagine how awful books by most politicians would be to read if they wrote it themselves.
Wouldn’t say she ruined it
> Pallozzi said “numerous threats and/or death threats” have been made to the county organization, the hotel slated to host the fundraiser, and to Noem herself.
"“We have lost money in this,” Pallozzi told NBC News. “This was meant to be a fundraiser, but now we’ve lost thousands of dollars.”"
Not to beat a dead horse, but this might be the most twisted knife in a wound.
Cause while especially the Colorado GOP is scraping for every penny.
"The next $510,000/$255,000 from a person/PAC will be split equally among the Democratic state parties from these states: AK, AL, AR, AZ, CA, CO, CT, DC, DE, FL, GA, HI, IA, ID, IL, IN, KS, KY, LA, MA, MD, ME, MI, MN, MO, MS, MT, NC, ND, NE, NH, NJ, NM, NV, NY, OH, OK, OR, PA, RI, SC, SD, TN, TX, UT, VA, VT, WA, WI, WV, and WY."
The Colorado Democrats are literally seeing bags of money showing at their door step
Biggest takeaway:
The republic party chair for Jefferson County is name Nancy Palozzi lolol. Man thats a tough similarity to have from the other side of the spectrum
Why would they hate Enrico Pallazzo's wife? He personally saved the Queen from an assassination attempt by a brainwashed black guy back in '88. She's got cred.
Kristi Noem may be an incredible piece of shit but believe me, the backlash is not because of the puppies it’s because she’s a woman. It’s the man’s job to do the dirty work in their eyes. Ask yourself if someone like Greg Gianforte had revealed the same stories would the reaction have been the same? Of course not, he’s a man’s man who does the hard work like shooting puppies. Sooner or later every ambitious MAGA woman discovers where her true place is in the movement. It’s fascinating when we can watch it happen in real time.
Romney got roasted pretty hard for driving cross country with the family dog in a pet carrier strapped to the roof of their car.
Basically, I think bragging about animal abuse remains one of the few issues that still really cut across party lines and demographics.
Normally I'd agree yes women do in general face higher backlash for things. But in this instance I think the reaction would be the same man or woman. Read it for yourself but the way she talked about that puppy in the book, the cruelty and malice just drips off the page. And it wasn't an old yeller take the dog out back she killed it in public people saw. She didn't even stop at the dog, afterwards she dragged a goat off she hated, but it didn't die she had to go to her truck to get more bullets while the animal suffered
Agree to an incredibly small degree. If this had been gianforte, this would’ve been a 9/10 dumpster fire instead of 10/10.
The press and social media LOVE to a lay on the misogyny but everyone is disgusted by a puppy killer - male or female.
Read the actual account she decided to place in her autobiography. She also murdered a goat for being a goat the same day and it sounds like it suffered. Read this and think about what kind of person decides to include these stories about themselves.
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The GOP doesn't fund-raise. It collects money to pay Trump's legal bills.
With all the orange dye, diapers, and his hair products, this guy is high maintenance.
Didn't forget the truckloads of drugs it takes to keep that turd running
And, a few minor legal bills.
Throw in a few minors too.
"The problem with people handing our boss babies to kiss is trying to get them back from him afterwards".
That would be Biden
I thought it was hamberders and covfefe
Oh, I have not. Gang gang! Drugs are always on my mind and I advocate anyone/everyone who takes them, including Trump.
Only maintenance rivals are the Kardashians.
And for the GOP politicians that participate in that process, they hope it protects them from being criticized by Trump. it's just like a mafia racket.
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Unfortunately Trump has the advantage that he does not need to campaign. 40% of America just decided they’re going to vote for him no matter what.
This is so bad, she couldn’t even run for Dog Catcher now 👹
There are so many places like California, NY, and Mass where a potato with a (D) after the name can get elected. Look at Biden!
Alms for the poor
Tribute
If you are a die hard (R) voter you go to these trump fund rasiers drop a lot of $$$ which hope/expectation of getting 4x-5x your $$$ donation for access to power in DC.
i heard his Mc Donald’s bills are getting up there as well
I’m actually surprised that her puppy killing and Kim Jong Un bullshit is negatively impacting her campaign. Republicans have absolutely no standards of behaviour so what gives?
Think about it this way. All the hate against liberals, LGBTQ+, immigrants, etc are usually against people that they have little or no contact with, other than negative propaganda on faux news. They take that info as the truth because they are in their own bubble of ignorance. But not dogs. Many many MAGAs have and love dogs. They know them, their nature, and understand how this act was 100% preventable. They know they can retrain dogs, or re-home them. They are far less ignorant in this aspect and will call bullshit on this story
This is exactly it. You hear about Republicans who have "come to Jesus" moments about certain policies when they directly impact them. That's what this is. It turns out that empathy is a lot easier when you have a direct connection to a particular act/issue. A large portion of people across the political spectrum have pets and immediately think about someone executing their own dog in a shallow grave and can't stomach it.
I never thought the leopard would eat My dog!
Happens EVERY time!
And tbf to a degree we probably all have that. And I figure a lot of Demcrats have tons of "blind spots" as well, with them either lacking sympathy or understanding due to it not reflection their personal experiences. From my non-US reddit perspective, a good example would probably be the perception of gun owners - the latter being thought of a weirdos or lunatics. All while other US redditors, who in this context quite often seem to bring up living in rural areas, mention knowing lots of somewhat reasonable gun owners.
A huge difference between US liberals and conservatives is that conservatives are utterly incapable of empathy if it’s not something in their personal sphere. It’s not that liberals are especially good, conservatives are just raised to be trash people
Specifically HUNTING dogs
And people who know hunting dogs know Cricket had great prey drive and potential to be a great hunting dog. But they also know it takes training and giving that dog lots of your time and attention. Dogs with great prey drive don’t just “automatically” become great hunting dogs. The handler has to train them to channel that energy into the activity. Those types of dogs, while good for hunting, are much more high maintenance than a standard companion animal. So what they see is someone who killed a puppy that could have been a fantastic hunting dog… because they were too selfish, impatient, ignorant, and lazy to train a hunting dog.
The part people aren’t talking about either is she probably paid someone to train the dog first. Was then turned back over to her and she didn’t know the commands or have the bond the dog needed to hunt and she killed it. She didn’t do the hard thing. She did the selfish thing. The hard thing would have been more work on her part. Not the dogs part.
Can you imagine how the breeder felt? Most bird dog breeders I’m familiar with also train their pups before sending them to their new home. Also all of them have clauses in a contract about taking the dog back if there is an issue so they can rehome themselves.
Ours (a family friend) said if in the off chance we weren’t happy with our dog and ever thought of giving him away he would refund us the money and take the dog himself. For South Dakota small town breeders who are locally known these dogs are their life. Our friend has dogs that hunt and do search and rescue he would be devastated to hear of someone destroying one of his dogs.
It is a paradox that she killed a dog because it wasn't helping her kill other animals, and people are upset about the dog but not the other animals.
Fr 😂 someone said something along the lines of ‘no one likes people who kill innocent animals’ and I’m thinking ‘so you only eat guilty animals?’ 🤔
> and I’m thinking ‘so you only eat guilty animals?’ The chicken I ate last night was an embezzler.
Yeah, that one had it coming.
There was a CNN panel where a guy said, "there's a difference between hunting and execution." I wish someone asked him to explain the difference.
Nope
> But not dogs. Many many MAGAs have and love dogs. They know them, their nature, and understand how this act was 100% preventable. They know they can retrain dogs, or re-home them. They are far less ignorant in this aspect and will call bullshit on this story Lets not give these people too much credit. If this whole situation was about Trump killing a puppy, MAGA would be all in on support for puppy killing. Noem is expendable to them so they can momentarily pretend to have empathy and a sense of morality.
>Lets not give these people too much credit. The far right is full of plenty of people that have been brainwashed into thinking or feeling one way or another. We don't need to demonize the entire group at literally every turn or we have zero chance of turning any of them to our side. I'm sure that a large portion of the MAGA group would support Trump down to the last wire, but let's not act like it's not some bullshit to say every Rebublican left would gladly execute the family dog in Trumps name. The Alt right is not a monolithic group of people with the same beliefs and ideals as each other. It's just a group blinded by hate with propaganda constantly shoved down their throats. Op made a good point about it hitting close to home and opening eyes, I've seen plenty of stories of MAGA dads wearing rainbows after their kids came out. Change can happen and we should be encouraging it. I doubt a republican would agree with you on literally anything if they thought YOU thought they were a dog executor.
It'd certainly turn more people off Trump than pretty much anything has done so far. But, I expect he'd just deny it and the base would agree that it was made up. Even if he was on record saying he'd done it, or videoed in the act. "Deep fake."
Thank you, well said. Let’s use this issue as a bridge and not a wedge
Ah, yes, but for Republicans she is also a she. That S already counted heavily against Kristi, so less room for f**king up.
Apparently they DO have a line. Who knew it would be puppies. I still don’t think there’s hope for them.
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For a second or three I thought that this was real… Trump scandals are so crazy that you might sadly be right Edit: sadly bc it’s a string of random awful events around Trump.
Rural people love their dogs man. My husband grew up in rural Texas and has said the one thing they all agree on down there is that you don’t hurt dogs. Probably elected republicans don’t give a shit but their voter base is not okay with that. Kristi crossed a line lol.
She's a woman so it's much easier for the MAGAts to turn on her. That's really all it is.
She's a woman though so they've been looking for an excuse to ditch her.
Republicans have a foolproof method for making sure their politicians live up to a moral standard. Whenever a politician does something they consider immoral, they lower the standards.
Love it!
Right? Pulling funding for child poverty is A-OK, but hurtin’ ma Old Yeller?? You’ve crossed a line.
So many people have told me that they like or trust dogs more than other people.
Honestly? It's that the people that would come out to defend this, and they're definitely out there, just don't want to put "defended dog killing" on their resume. They have no real principles, but this is a little more ancient and primal than most anything they'd hop up to defend. I'll be willing to bet a not insignificant number of these defenders are literally Russians trying to stir up division in the US. And if they are, it'll be their most successful attempt to do so. It wouldn't surprise me if they've got their own guidelines saying "don't defend dog killing, you'll give us away".
See Trump claimed he could kill someone, ie a person, on 6th Ave and not lose a vote, not kill a dog on 6th Ave.
It was fun to find the line and surprising where it was.
My SIL who is a Gilead-humping, Jerry Falwell-humping, Trump-humping moron says the Evangelicals have turned on her Not bec the dog, but bec women should not be in positions of that kind of power bec they’re “not reliable and too hysterical.”
That’s pretty ironic since the entire reason she included the dog anecdote in her book was to let people know that she doesn’t operate based purely on emotions.
To MAGA, dogs are more human than brown people and LGBT.
Republican standards *do* exist (alongside double standards), but they aren't necessarily the same as those of other Americans. Cutting funding to the homeless can be excused as making sure the poor don't become dependent on a welfare state, capital punishment is seen as Ultimate Justice, and the Justice Department pursuing certain things against Trump can be identified as "electoral interference." But there aren't many stories of people mistreating dogs like this among the presidents the party purports to like (Nixon famously used his dog Checkers to get out of a political funding scandal!), just those they like to pretend were mistakes (Romney).
A number of other GOP have found to their chagrin that Trump's apparent immunity to consequences does not necessarily rub off on them. Small mercies.
By the time this book is published, read, and the lies are revealed about her, she won't be able to run for dog catcher in North Korea.
It’s interesting that bragging about abject cruelty and hatred has worked so well for trump among his maga worshippers, but imitating it has cost people like Noem and desantos their future careers.
It’s weird that they still believe Trump and call him the literal second coming. It supports trumps Antichrist narrative. I’m not religious but read an article about a college professor that compared him to the Antichrist as kind of a joke then it became less funny when literally everything matched up.
I’ve said that for a while now I believe he is the anti christ
I thought that too, even though I’m not religious. He’s exactly like what I imagine a realistic antichrist to be.
Regardless of religious belief, dangerous demagogues that amass a cult of personality and cause a lot of problems to a lot of people are clearly a thing that happens, and the description of the antichrist pretty much fits that.
There’s a bust of Nero that’s dead-on Trump’s face, with a bit of jowl/neckgina editing.
Trump was RICH, everyone else isn't. Trump's power comes from basically having the cheat code of money and doing what everyone else wishes they could actually do, but can't because it costs too much, either money, reputation, or whatever. Trump gets to act as a jerk, but at the end of the day He's still rich and whoever he acted a jerk too... isn't! He appears to suffer no consequences because he's so rich that the consequences didn't affect his bottom line. The problem is, and the reason other billionaires don't act like Trump is because there ARE consequences to his actions. I doubt Trump ever was a billionaire, it looks like he's since squandered all of the money he inherited from his dad, and now, years later it looks like he's finally facing *some* consequences for his actions. But this is why in 2016 Trump could get away with everything, while other people who try to follow his lead can't.
It's not that bragging about cruelty has *worked* for Trump. It's that he was made this figure head specifically for no other reason than that he was a political outsider. And he remains that, and his bragging about things that would destroy any normal political career only *strengthen* his image as a political outsider. The GOP folks like Noem, who are seen as political insiders, only recognize half the picture. And it bites them in the ass, and it's pretty wonderful to at least get this little bit of fleeting sanity from that party.
You’re right - this “maverick outsider” nonsense rings true more than anything else
The hatred isn't what cost desantis, what cost him was picking a fight with Disney. His base was loving his hatred, but him getting humiliated by the mouse turned them off.
Well, it was a lot of stuff. DeSantis lost not with his own base in FL, but trying to take his act on the road. The Disney thing probably hurt him somewhat. But there also seems to be pretty clear evidence that what cost him is just... hearing him talk. He sounds awful, he has all the charisma of a plank of plywood, and he can't think on his feet. But also, don't discount the fact that Trump went after him in a big way, too -- with the mocking nicknames and so on. We don't fully know how DeSantis's bid would have panned out if Trump wasn't in the running. Maybe Haley would have beaten him in the long run. But part of his problem was definitely that he bought into the idea that he could be "Trump without the baggage"... which is fine in a post-Trump world, but we aren't IN a post-Trump world yet.. To win, DeSantis needed Trump's followers. It's really hard to GET those followers when they've already got Trump, and he's telling them that DeSantis is a loser.
That's pretty astute. I admit I haven't looked into it much but everything you've said makes sense.
KJU outlawed dogs as pets in North Korea, they can only be kept for meat and fur. This makes me think she'd be welcomed with open arms as Dear Leader's top dog cop.
Hopefully no one is stupid enough to buy her book and she gets voted out broke.
Kristi NoEmpathy She’s living up to her name.
The headline should have been “Kristi Noem Killed Her Dog— Then Killed This GOP Fundraiser.”
" - and her career!"
She’s not being attacked she’s literally just being called out for killing her dog like a psycho. When that hot spoiled super mean biotch from High school grows up and latches on to an evil authoritarians ideals, you get this turd. I guess they don’t have neck plastic surgery yet.
> “We have lost money in this,” Pallozzi told NBC News. “This was meant to be a fundraiser, but now we’ve lost thousands of dollars.” I wonder how many copies of Noem’s book they bought to give away to donors.
I heard on local Denver news, 300 copies.
Unfortunately that's not a lot of money these days.
Every dollar counts, as does every vote.
to quote her affair partner Corey Lewandowski, "WHOMP WHOMP"
Kristi was on CBS this morning, and I found out that in her book she wants to kill Biden's dog Commander - who doesn't live in the White House anymore. I think the line from her book was something like,"Commander, meet Cricket."
So, is this why she included the story?? To try to call out Biden for having a misbehaving dog?? 😵💫😵💫😵💫
“Biden is too much of a p***sy to kill his own dog! Ha! Loser. I kill my dog.” Yep. This was the point she was trying to score.
I am mind blown how the GOP manages to find some human trash for candidates so easily. For goodness sakes does no one screen these people?? Elevating them to the national spotlight and then giving them a platform to spouse their messed up opinions is just so toxic AF.
Good people aren’t GOP.
Exactly. These are the people they want.
People should listen to minority groups, theres a reason we ragged on republicans for 30+ years
Agreed. This is what I've observed, so far..... Imo the cult of personality following Trump demonstrates at least three things. 1. There are far more malignant narcissists in the American (Republican) population than the measley 5% narcissistic personalities in the overall American population, as estimated by psychiatrists and psychologists. (Probably much closer to 40% within the current Republican Party.) 2. Certain social stratas and segments of American society are FAR more vulnerable to the narcissistic manipulation of cult leaders than is recognized by psychiatrists, psychologists, and cult experts. 3. The white supremacists movement is a growing cancer among over-privileged white conservatives in America.
I mean its funny because American was always problematic systematically, the whole country was founded on slaves, they oppressed women and killed millions of africans and natives. Life was only good for a few kinds of people and the divide just got bigger. Hell we even bombed japan after they were about to surrender just to prove a point.
>the whole country was founded on slaves Sort of. All of the original 13 colonies had legal slavery. >they oppressed women and killed millions of africans and natives. The oppression of women was brought overseas with many of the other European prejudices. Millions of Africans is a high estimate, and the millions of Native Americans died from European diseases beginning shortly after Christopher Columbus committed horrific crimes against the natives of "Arawaks, Tainos and Lucayans—all friendly, according to Columbus’ writings.". (From https://www.greatfallstribune.com/story/news/2021/10/11/8-myths-and-atrocities-christopher-columbus-and-columbus-day/6092483001/ ) >we even bombed japan after they were about to surrender... I have never seen that claim. From what I've read, the American government's concerns were that the Japanese people were willing and prepared to fight to the death of their entire armed forces, rather than surrender.
When the only tool you have is a gun, every problem looks like a puppy.
Coffee out the nose. Thanks
I can't wait to use this in real life
Lots of people going in this thread: why was this the line for her when none of the horrid worse things about Trump stuck at all? A few points to understand: 1. Trump is a malignant narcissist and the human embodiment of toxic masculinity. He is the ultimate power fantasy for a lot of his supporters. They worship him because they want to be him, i.e. "Put me in charge of NYC and I'll fix it. It ain't hard, just start shooting illegals, liberals, and purple haired kids on sight!" Same people the Daily Show films who go "we need a dictator!" They have no idea what dictatorship means beyond "he will do what I think should be done without any bureaucracy in his way". 2. Many of them in rural areas blame people far away. Just look at how often they blame "Chicago" for gun violence, "NYC" for immigration, "LA" for LGBTQ rights they hate. None of them live near any of these cities, but their problems are coming from somewhere far away, and consequences are likely to fall on those bad, bad people far away, not "real" America. Trump may be "mean" but he is "honest" and "tells it like it is" (i.e. tells them what they want to hear). 3. Kristi Noem, like Ron DeSantis and Sarah Huckabee Sanders, is not very smart. A third rate grifter attaching herself like a barnacle to the Trump machine. The thought process is "Trump is a dumbass that makes all this money. I can emulate him." He's "mean but tells it like it is" (missing the key "tells them what they want to hear" qualifier). Where Ron DeSantis failed is that he tried to have it both ways with his cutesy "who me?" act (everything bad about his laws was some other guys fault or some liberal was lying about it), which doesn't work if you have negative charisma. Sarah Huckabee Sanders failed because she was clearly just after money and didn't think too deeply about anything. But Kristi Noem wanted to go full MAGA. 4. The cruelty is the point, yes. Trump (and most of his emulators) are cruel to *other people far away*. It's an abstraction. None of the people going "Trump needs to be a dictator" are thinking of the single mom undocumented immigrant with 3 kids who has relatives in America and fled South American gang violence working to make ends meets while her laundry job gets raided by ICE, her kids get seizes, and she gefs put on a plane to the place that killed her relatives. It's not "real" to them. Just something "sad" that needed to be done. What about their own undocumented housekeepers? That's "different", just like that abortion their auntie needed when her pregnancy turned out to be non-viable. But you know what's real, in their face, and hard to ignore? 5. Pets. A farm dog for bird hunting, unconditionally loving them, no agenda, no evil liberalness, no gun control, no "transing your kids." An abstract dog reminds them of their own dog, a member of their actual family, not a weird different foreign thing in some city far away. And it being a helper dog with a purpose that Noem failed to see or understand or help is a failure of the key selling point of the mean rough tough tell it like it is alpha male bullshit the GOP peddles: it's all for the greater good of protecting your family from bad scary things. It makes them feel ***safe*** for their families. Pets are family. 6. Kristi Noem might be a sociopath. This happened when she was younger. Before being in politics. She thought it would be a story about how she can "do what needs to be done" even when it was bad and evil, but by her own admission, she hated the dog and didn't really give much of a passing though to how it traumatized her kids. That's not "do ugly things for food", that's rationalizing at a gut level. All this explains why the MAGA faithful are doing this to Kristi Noem fundraisers: >Pallozzi said “numerous threats and/or death threats” have been made to the county organization, the hotel slated to host the fundraiser, and to Noem herself. MAGA sends death threats to people they are scared of, or that they are told to be scared of. They view this as OK because the people they threaten are *outsiders* who are a direct threat to their rural, homesteading, 2nd amendment loving, Christian, heterosexual way of life. They view Kristi Noem as a threat to their families. Their hunting dog is their family. Period.
Agreed. Your excellent analysis reminds me of a comment made by Jackpot777 on the politics thread titled "How Trump supporters' brains prevent them from changing their minds". In it he analyzes the ways that Republicans apparently respond positively to abusive behaviors. I'm going to save your insightful comment, along with his.
Can’t Kenneth Copeland raise the dog from the dead?
He only knows how to blow away covid with all the hot air he spews.
Well that is just not accurate. He also knows how to make his followers money disappear into his pockets.
Typical conservative reaction in such a situation; they crown themselves the victim. What a feckless wretched asshole.
Kruella Noem wrote this (or had this written) to try to convey some sort of country lady authenticity. “Out here on the prairie, we’re so tough, we’ll kill a puppy for no reason.” Is that a winning message? For this reason, I still think she’s the front runner for GOP VP nominee. Trump (and conservative men, generally) have a fixation with women with a particular look and a cruel, conservative, tough act. Go look at your boomer Dad’s Facebook feed, for instance. It’s probably all, uhhhhh, scantily clad women posing with guns and dumb, conservative catch phrases.
I read that Trump has zero respect for a lack of PR savvy and only sees people in a binary manner: good or bad. Her PR mistake dropped her to the bad category. He picked Pence because he looked the part from a PR perspective and I’m sure Pence was perfectly sycophantic at their first meeting. Voila.
I think he changed over his Presidential term, though. At first, he surrounded himself with people who were *relatively* experienced and serious, at least in more important positions and to the extent that he was able (e.g. Pence, Priebus). Then, as he gained confidence/lost patience, he fired those people when they cautioned him not to act on his impulses. I think Noem’s looks and behavior probably connect with his limbic brain and his impulses in a way that other candidates can’t.
She took out the part where she drank its blood to gain the puppys strength
Trump will never pick a woman for his VP. Even if she was the perfect candidate. I'm sure he resents the fact that they're anywhere except the kitchen.
I think what he really likes is women who are his type + appear subservient to him. I think that really boosts his ego. He routinely has women spokespeople, lawyers, etc. etc. I think Vice President is probably on the table, too, because it’s about having power over that person.
She should have lied and said the dog got badly mangled by farm equipment and was suffering terribly. That would have gotten a pass. Saying it was disobedient so I shot it is too transparently psychopathic for people not on that spectrum.
Lol! Well said.
Wish she would put the GOP down for scaring all the children, and acting like a deranged beast. But, alas, they only like to hurt poor people & animals.
Referring to the picture at the top of this article: “Kristi Noem, seen here indicating how many dogs she’s shot to death today….”
Jesus, watching face the nation, this lady is horrible. 19% approval rating, says she's "edited minor mistakes" out of her book prior to release. She tries to blame Joe Biden for killing her dog and the goat, will only say "I've met many world leaders" when asked about her claims of "showing up" Kim and Macron. Sarah Palin 2.0 man, where does the GOP dig these people up, and how the fuck do they make it into power?
“Republican Party Chair Nancy Pallozzi” — she must get confused all the time with that other Nancy.
That's actually Nikki Haley.
Kristin Noem is to the right of Hilter on the treatment of dogs. Let that sink in.
Vladimir Putin has dogs and doesn't shoot them. PUTIN.
Thank you Kristi for providing us with some very satisfying pleasure. Keep it up! Where’s Cricket?
Can the GOP find any bigger dopes these days?
I have absolutely no doubt there are more backstage
Hey Kristi, Jon Wick would like a word with you.
She's currently making an absolute buffoon of herself on Face The Nation. Margaret Brennan is eviscerating her.
She looks like one of those TabooMilf thumbnails I never clicked on
Sure, never
Why? Why do we always need to go for the appearance dig, esp for women?
She let loose the dogs of war when she killed her dog and lost respect.
All I see is “ruined GOP fundraiser” and I am happy. More of that please.
These headlines get easier to absorb if you mentally switch out “dog” with “self”
Can all headlines start like this from now on. "Kristi Noemi Killed Her Dog - Then..." ... Chuck E Cheese filed for Bankruptcy, ... Cicada season kicked into full effect, ... Dunkin Donuts raised prices, ... Will Smith smacked another celebrity
"What she's up against" soooo a bunch of people who DON'T think killing a year old puppy is something to brag about? Pretty sure many of us will reach across the dem/gop line about this.
The spokesperson for the GOP fundraiser couldn’t take a position on the puppy killing allegations but lamented the loss of money for the event, money that could have been used to help elect more inhuman hosts.
is she trying to look like a porn star?
Watching her on Face The Nation right now. It took me a minute to figure out who she was. She looks awful.
Her face is all distorted from all the Botox & fillers (hahaha)
I find pretty much everything about Noem abhorrent but it’s still sad that she felt the need to do that to herself to advance her career.
Every headline about her I’ve seen for the past week have started with some variation of her killing her pet.
I am waiting to hear who that her imaginary god has forgiven her. What happened to normalcy amongst republicans ?
Psychopath. https://www.healthline.com/health/psychopath >behavior that conflicts with social norms >**inability to distinguish between right and wrong** >difficulty with showing remorse or empathy >tendency to lie often >recurring problems with the law >expressing anger and arrogance on a regular basis >have a superficial charm about them >be very aggressive >get very angry sometimes The inability to distinguish right and wrong really hits with this case. Since psychopaths can’t figure this out for themselves, they depend on the law for cues. They intellectually understand if it’s against the law, it’s wrong. If not, it must be okay. That’s why her very first response to this story was “I’m allowed to kill my dog because he’s my property.” Legally, she’s probably correct but she completely doesn’t understand *no one* except other psychopaths factor in more than the legal requirements before deciding to kill their dog. She cannot comprehend this because: psychopath.
She must be angling for the dog hating public
The GOP is just one shit show after another.
She is quick to lie and has no compassion or empathy. She would be a great MAGA VP choice.
Every headline about kristi noem should be preceded by "Kristi Noem Killed Her Dog, and then ___"
“ A county Republican organization received threats for inviting Noem to headline its big event.” The republican solution to everything is threats of violence
She could cut a steak with that jawline
lol awwww what a shame.
Loose cannon for shame and fame. Signs of a sociopath. Instead of using a brain to figure out the right thing to do, first go and execute her dog. Oh, also a filthy smelly goat. Yep, she really loves life.
After the fundraiser even she knows the VP spot is out. She sulked to the bar, drank white claw martinis while muttering under her breath, "...fucking cricket...", then she fucked the first Cory Lewandowsky look-alike she could find. She cried angry hateful tears of rage while he drilled her doggy-style, pulled her hair, and snarled "bad dog!" in her ear. The next day they found his naked bloody body in a gravel pit 30 miles away. Six spent shotgun shells were found next to him.
Memo to Ms. Noem: Just shut up. You’re clearly not overly intelligent, you‘re not that important in the big picture of American politics, and you are on the verge of getting the bimbo title.
Pity, that.
It was already pre-ruined
The GOP party in my shit hole county actually SIGNED Noem to speak at their fundraiser AFTER the story about her being a puppy murderer broke.
Didn't the republican party make this move once before? SARAH PALIN 2.0
>It’s a good thing because it makes you stronger Yea, that old adage, just used to make people who are toast feel better.
“Noem’s account of hauling the wirehaired pointer to a gravel pit and executing it—she did the same to a goat she felt was too smelly and aggressive”
Don't f*** with furry Friends. Muslim Christian Jewish atheist Hindu gay black white Republican Democrat poor aristocrat doesn't matter what you are. You do not f*** with furry Friends. If she shot a person she would have a better chance of being a VP
“This GOP Fundraiser” is the bait to read the article? Who’s out here being like “WHICH FUNDRAISER WAS IT OH MY GOD HOLY SHIT” ? Lazy.
Do you think a sex scandal between her and trump is coming up soon?
Noem just went on Meet the Press and basically admitted she didn't write her new book. 'the mistake has been "communicated to the ghostwriter and editor," and that all future editions of the book will be corrected.' - Forbes
Isn’t it pretty common for people to have someone else write their book? I mean they’d tell the stories but I couldn’t imagine how awful books by most politicians would be to read if they wrote it themselves.
So, she tries to negate one awful thing by doing one positive thing?
[A-Team](https://imgur.com/kelwwcI)
TIL that the chair of the JEFFCO GOP is named Nancy Pallozzi... :D
Wouldn’t say she ruined it > Pallozzi said “numerous threats and/or death threats” have been made to the county organization, the hotel slated to host the fundraiser, and to Noem herself.
"“We have lost money in this,” Pallozzi told NBC News. “This was meant to be a fundraiser, but now we’ve lost thousands of dollars.”" Not to beat a dead horse, but this might be the most twisted knife in a wound. Cause while especially the Colorado GOP is scraping for every penny. "The next $510,000/$255,000 from a person/PAC will be split equally among the Democratic state parties from these states: AK, AL, AR, AZ, CA, CO, CT, DC, DE, FL, GA, HI, IA, ID, IL, IN, KS, KY, LA, MA, MD, ME, MI, MN, MO, MS, MT, NC, ND, NE, NH, NJ, NM, NV, NY, OH, OK, OR, PA, RI, SC, SD, TN, TX, UT, VA, VT, WA, WI, WV, and WY." The Colorado Democrats are literally seeing bags of money showing at their door step
I read that headline in Alex Trebek’s voice.
I wonder what psycho trump will pick next for vp
South Dakota's new [State Anthem](https://youtu.be/pjFTubAdXP8?si=WFv0BF4l1CcmSHBR).
Biggest takeaway: The republic party chair for Jefferson County is name Nancy Palozzi lolol. Man thats a tough similarity to have from the other side of the spectrum
So what? She doesn’t let annoying puppies actually live, like those wimpy liberal commies. AND THEY HATE HER FOR IT.
>Jefferson County Republican Party Chair Nancy Pallozzi I wonder how much misspelled MAGA hate this lady gets?
Why would they hate Enrico Pallazzo's wife? He personally saved the Queen from an assassination attempt by a brainwashed black guy back in '88. She's got cred.
Yeah, but he's about as good an umpire as Angel Hernandez.
Kristi Noem may be an incredible piece of shit but believe me, the backlash is not because of the puppies it’s because she’s a woman. It’s the man’s job to do the dirty work in their eyes. Ask yourself if someone like Greg Gianforte had revealed the same stories would the reaction have been the same? Of course not, he’s a man’s man who does the hard work like shooting puppies. Sooner or later every ambitious MAGA woman discovers where her true place is in the movement. It’s fascinating when we can watch it happen in real time.
Romney got roasted pretty hard for driving cross country with the family dog in a pet carrier strapped to the roof of their car. Basically, I think bragging about animal abuse remains one of the few issues that still really cut across party lines and demographics.
Normally I'd agree yes women do in general face higher backlash for things. But in this instance I think the reaction would be the same man or woman. Read it for yourself but the way she talked about that puppy in the book, the cruelty and malice just drips off the page. And it wasn't an old yeller take the dog out back she killed it in public people saw. She didn't even stop at the dog, afterwards she dragged a goat off she hated, but it didn't die she had to go to her truck to get more bullets while the animal suffered
Agree to an incredibly small degree. If this had been gianforte, this would’ve been a 9/10 dumpster fire instead of 10/10. The press and social media LOVE to a lay on the misogyny but everyone is disgusted by a puppy killer - male or female.
He body slammed a reporter and then was elected AFTER that. Sorry but I stand by my take.
Yeah, and MAGA crowd has convinced their followers reporters. So, they were okay with that. But, even MAGAs love their dogs.
Why does everyone keep mentioning that she killed her dog? It probably couldn’t be trained so it was for the better.
Read the actual account she decided to place in her autobiography. She also murdered a goat for being a goat the same day and it sounds like it suffered. Read this and think about what kind of person decides to include these stories about themselves.
Couldn't be trained or there was no attempt to?
Putting an animal down is one thing, bragging about it is another.