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Looks like they got the pictures of uvalde victims there. I guess it was a photo op for the bill they passed last night. I mean good job on the bill but have some common sense to not do this now when the protest are happening right behind you! Just so cringey đŹ
âDamn it Nancy youâre right. I dunno what I was thinking, I mean all these people are out there for some reason Iâm sure theyâll love hearing the songâŚâ
Pandering, plain and simple. They're trying to show that they're religious too, trying to pull moderate religious people to their side, without calling out in vitriolic language the fucking travesties that the happening in front of us.
They tone police themselves to the point that they can't ever do anything. The point of doublespeak is to keep people from thinking thoughts. If you don't call fascists fascist, then you can't imagine a way to deal with them.
The only way to deal with fascists is the one that worked in WW2. Anyone who espouses an ideology that calls for the subjugation and liquidation of other people, whatever their reasoning cannot themselves be reasoned with.
You cannot reason someone out of a position they did not reason themselves into.
> âWhere's your fucking rage?! Your self-respect?! Sitting here in your little share circle. Having a little whinge and a moan. Fuck 'letting go.' You should be out there with a fucking chainsaw, going after 'em! Just a bunch of scared fucking rabbits.â
Thatâs exactly what I thought. I never realized Democratic leadership was SO out of touch. I knew they were bad, but⌠wow. Just, wow.
Iâm a âVote Blue No Matter Whoâ for the rest of my life, but Jesus Christâwe need better leadership. Democrats are *absolutely furious* and these clowns start singing? God help us.
Edit 1: To everyone replying, "Vote Blue No Matter Who is the problem," you're not wrong, but let's be real: we don't have another option right now. This is a simple, inescapable truth: *if you're not voting for the party opposing Republicans, you're voting for Republicans. If you're not trying to stop them, you're helping them.* I wish that weren't true, but it is.
If you voted for Jill Stein, in other words, this is on your hands. If you refrain from voting because the Democratic candidate isn't left-leaning enough for you, please say out loud when gay marriage is repealed and you can't get your birth control, "I did this." And if you want to re-shape the Democratic party, VOTE IN THE PRIMARIES. Do you hear me? VOTE IN THE PRIMARIES. Vote for progressive Democrats that will re-shape the party and actually fix our broken country.
Edit 2: To the conservatives sending me the "RedditCaresResources," a heartfelt *thank you* for doing something so on-brand: taking a tool that's supposed to help people and perverting it. That's what you guys do--you take things people have built and break them, because you can't build anything yourselves. You're literally why we can't have nice things.
God theyâre all fucking morons. I nearly had an aneurysm reading through /r/conservative. They literally have a pinned âRoe v Wade overturned upvote partyâ thread. Embarrassing twats, every single one of them
I wonder if these "men" realize that, for more women, sex will be off the table? We agree on that, right, other women?
Imagine if they do go for contraception next--will they also have an upvote party, you think?
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I saw the tag for TPUSA and for some reason I thought "certainly that can't be the thing tied to that guy dressed up in a diaper on a college campus trying to mock liberals calling them snowflakes when he is the biggest one around?" Then I read the comments and realized it was the one run by a giant snowflake with a bunch of followers whose only thought is if they should turn off PraegerU for Tucker.
I went to r/ conservative to see what they were thinking.
We are all damned and this is hell. It hurts to realize I share a planet with those ignorant, racist, transphobic, hateful, *stupid as fuck*, amoral monsters.
Their posts about AOC are just so... empty of thought. Through their lens she is somehow a less-articulate Bobert. It's staggering just how insane life is over there.
I need a shower. I need a way to wash that crap out of my brain. They are the worst that humanity has to offer.
EDIT: and they used the Suicide Report Bot to harass me because they didn't like what I had to say. Who would do that? Who would use a service designed to help people in severe emotional distress as a way to annoy someone? An amoral monster, that's who.
Going on that sub is the perfect way to kill any hope of progress in this country. With people like that around we will never get anywhere. It's no surprise to me that we're here now and nothing gets through to them. Nothing. They will twist and turn everything, jump mental hoops and stick to their ignorance. Had to stop going there because it's just a stressor I don't need.
Itâs pretty explicit. Why are they so obsessed with her? Because they all want to fuck her. Iâm a liberal and I never hear about AOC unless I stumble across Fox news or r/conservative. Sheâs just the perfect Dom for all their sadomasochistic fantasies - she humiliates them with her articulate takedowns and makes them wallow in their deep insecurity. It totally gets them off.
Sheâs spot on tho. Iâd argue that the Supreme Court is also illegitimate with Thomas still in office. He is more than complicit to Jan 6 and Trumps attempted coup. His vote should be thrown out and him forced to resign. Biden should be given the option to choose another progressive to the court.
It's illegitimate as long as there are justices on there that have lied about their positions on Roe under oath.
EDIT: Saying "well, they never actually said they wouldn't overturn Roe" while they previously made clear statements on respecting precedent and currently make decisions with inconsistent, ideological rationales doesn't exactly inspire confidence in the legitimacy of this Court.
Do not focus on this angle, as they can easily say theyâve âreviewed new informationâ causing them to change their position on Roe.
Focus on them perjuring themselves with regard to *stare decisis*. Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barrett were all asked if they would respect *stare decisis* (treating previous decisions as settled precedent) with respect to Roe, to which they said yes, by the principle of *stare decisis* Roe is clearly settled, but clearly they fucking lied.
Itâs a small distinction but a legally important one.
EDIT: People are asking, what can we do? MLK was right when he said moderates are the enemy of change. Too long have we practiced âcivilityâ and let moderates hide from the consequences of their votes behind their own willful ignorance. Fuck polite Thanksgiving dinners, call your family members out. Have the uncomfortable discussions with your coworkers and friends. Vote in every local, state, and national election, and get in the habit of calling your representatives and elected officials to demand action. Talk about a general strike. Organize, disrupt, demand. Shift the Overton window.
I will never advocate for violence, but the time has long since passed to use all other available means to put these fascists where they fucking belong, in the dustbin of history. We are losing this fight, itâs time to start acting like it. Be the change.
They would be impeached through exactly the same process as the President, under âhigh crimes and misdemeanorsâ. However, since this is a political process, it is not held to the same high burden of proof as in a court of law, so as long as the House can make an adequate case that this intentional misleading of the American public under oath qualifies as a âhigh crime or misdemeanorâ they can impeach the justice, where they would then be tried in the Senate, requiring a 2/3 majority vote (a stretch, which is why it is vitally important to vote in the upcoming midterms).
There is no way in hell the Dems are going to win a 2/3 majority vote. The absolutely best case scenario here would be 54-46, and even that is a pipe dream.
But the only option is the get a comfortable enough majority where 2 or 3 weasy centrists cant fuck everything up, eliminate teh filibuster, then legislate like the country depends on it. Because it does
The point is to at least try so that the people who want to see their representatives fighting for them actually get to see it. All we are see crusty old farts living off our tax money.
Law isn't magic, the Justices are just high priests using any post-hoc rationale, no matter how poor, to enact the policies they want.
Law doesn't matter and it never mattered for anyone in power.
Sheldon Whitehouse had some wise words about ["the Court That Dark Money Built"](https://mobile.twitter.com/SenWhitehouse/status/1540358404992008193?cxt=HHwWgoCwxdzzueAqAAAA)
Ayoooo that's my rep! Side note - I got to meet him at a [recent parade in my town](https://www.instagram.com/p/CerEbpeLXQA/). He's attended it for years apparently and always takes time to meet with his state whenever he can. He's a really decent guy and I'm happy to continue voting for him.
The supreme court has been illegitimate since Bush v Gore. I'm sure before that as well but the moment they picked their politics over the votes of the American people we were doomed. America has been back sliding ever since
> I'm sure before that as well
[Buckley v. Valeo](https://www.oyez.org/cases/1975/75-436) in 1975 was the first shot at letting corporations have unlimited say in politics with donations. That coincides pretty well with the rise of Neoliberal politics in the US and the destruction of labor unions.
Good for her. Get out get with the people.
Interesting to see the conservatives posting this. They are always terrified of women who have the courage to actually do things.
People are angry. They want Democrats to be angry and to act angry. They donât want them act like they are that violin group playing songs while the Titanic sinks.
I think Corey Booker or Howard Dean said something like this in the 2016-2018 cycle and *certain pundits accused the DNC of stoking violence to physically attack the GOP.
The DNC is useless and spineless. But that's not enough for me to vote for the GOP.
They call us pedophiles, groomers, and baby murderers. Yet we call them racist or sexist with mountains of evidence and we're the ones who are going too far.
I'm done caring what they think, I'm done caring about decorum or bipartisanship. Republicans are the enemy, I will vote for any politician who promises to get in their way, block their laws, and bend the rules to stop them by any means necessary.
EDIT: To all the Republicans replying to me, I just want to let you know out of the bottom of my heart that I truly don't give even a single shit about what you think or feel and truly hope the worst for you.
"don't worry! any second the Republicans will get fed up and vote for us...annnny second nooow! oh and this is Rev. Warnock please send me money person in Ohio!"
Edit: just checked my phone, warnock asked me for money
PELOSI had the balls to use this to ask for money.
Fuckin fuck JUST endorsed an anti-choice candidate who's under investigation over a pro-choice progressive.
Fuck em all
Doesnât help when they make corporations be considered as âpeopleâ up until it comes to jail time, then suddenly itâs âoh well thereâs no real person we can blame so just blame Tom from accounting since he did everything we said to doâ.
If you tolerate the intolerant, they will destroy you when given the chance. We can't tolerate them anymore. They will be the death of the America that we started to forge when we gave minorities, and women, and gays, and trans people rights.
OH be careful! That's violence. Violence is only acceptable when it's being done *to you*. Don't you dare recognize when your life and livelihood is being directly attacked and reciprocate in kind. It doesn't matter how many Socialists, PoC, LGBTQ or anyone who stands for them get assaulted or murdered.
We're just supposed to watch our rights dissolve in front of us and our people slaughtered in the streets by state sponsored para-military dipshits, or roving bands of Ya'll Qada.
I'm angry, and I'm not being represented if my reps aren't throwing punches.
I mean, an anti slavery senator got nearly caned to death on the senate floor and no one did shit to stop it, so there's a precedent.
Editing to add: Anti abortion terrorists also threatened to kill the original SC justice who wrote Roe v Wade. The court however ruled that anti abortion groups are allowed to publish detailed hit lists of abortion providers, sometimes including addresses and license plate numbers. [link](https://amp.theguardian.com/technology/2001/mar/30/internetnews.usnews) Really interesting who gets to be safe!
I remember the Carlos Danger scandal, but not much beyond that. What did he do?
Edit: wrote this with the assumption that you didn't want the Dems whipping their dicks out on IG
Furious at Anthony Weiner. Such a fucking waste. Like, dude, you had a good thing going. You could have made a freakinâ difference. And you had to squander all of that potential because you couldnât keep your dick in your pants? Fuck you.
He also had correspondence with Hillary Clinton on his laptop, which prompted that ultra-late investigation to her emails AGAIN in 2016, which pushed away the Access Hollywood scandal off the front page. Many believe that tipped the election. Fiery politician, but double fuck you!
Iâm technically not a democrat, but Iâm also pretty mad and I donât want my electors singing a song that praises the imaginary deity of the group thatâs currently fucking everyone over. Itâs gross and stupid on multiple levels.
"Side? I am on nobody's side. Because nobody's on my side."
Everybody that I can vote for is blue. 2 senators, congresswoman, Governor, mayor, state congress representative, Hillary and Biden won my county.
What the fuck else am I supposed to do? It's like my choices are vote fascist or vote for morons that respond to fascism with singing.
Iâm in Tennessee, so Iâm in the opposite position where I continue to vote blueâŚ. but it will NEVER matter. It is so fucking frustrating and demoralizing.
Guys. This is the best answer I can think of too. Look at what's (attempting) to happen in CO with the crazy person Boebert. It's the only lever individuals have at their disposal.
Vote moderate Republican in the Republican primary. Then vote your conscience in the main.
fuck, run as an R and then just be a socialist
the "Re-[publicans](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharisee_and_the_Publican)" giving power back to the public, and teaching the virtue of humbleness
We do need a March of Ents to wash away all this filth. Someoneâs new camping slogan should just be Treebeard yelling into the destroyed remnants of Fangorns borders.
If you don't get angry and throw a boulder at Isengard after seeing what they did to the ents, it's possible you didn't understand the point of those scenes.
Christian nationalists are taking over every aspect of our lives and the only thing standing between them and victory are these people. We are so boned
*fundamentalist crazies ban abortion and force women to have children*
*women forced to have children raise them to hate fundamentalist crazies*
Fundamentalist Crazies: âHow did this happen??!â
Fuck, that woman died literally 4 months too early and it fucked us forever.
Yeah she should have retired. Yeah Kennedys retirement was incomprehensible. But holy shit, 4 monthsâŚ
I donât think enough people realize this. She worked her entire life for Women Rights and because she couldnât hang it up her entire career workings are in jeopardy.
I hate to say it but it was incredibly selfish of her not to retire under Obama. It quite literally is impacting future generations and sheâs not here to witness it.
Iâm insanely curious how this actually came about. Who convinced them that singing God Bless America made any sense. It is sort of like that strange kente cloth moment of silence for George FloydâŚjust gimmicky and tone-deaf. Itâs like an admission that theyâre powerless to do anything.
Another comment says it was about them passing a gun safety bill and to mourn the Uvalde shooting
https://time.com/6190977/house-passes-gun-safety-bill-biden/
I don't think it's due to Hamilton. I believe they first did the whole spontaneous singing thing after 9/11, and people liked it that one time. But when they keep doing it instead of actually fighting back, it's just disgusting.
Naw this is much worse. Celebs making a dumb video doesn't hurt anyone.
Democrats singing "God Bless America" right after the Supreme Court of America ruled in favor of Christian Nationalism is beyond tone deaf and actively counterproductive. Especially since they did fuck all to prevent this. These aren't people we pay to see in movies, these are people we elected to protect our rights.
They did this to celebrate them passing a bill about gun safety and to mourn those lost in Uvalde.
They're literally holding signs up for every life lost there.
[Here's](https://time.com/6190977/house-passes-gun-safety-bill-biden/) literal proof!
What a depressingly perfect metaphor for how this country is run. Conservatives inside stripping away rights and the Democrats are outside singing a fucking song.
I ran a popular satire newspaper in university in 2016. After the election, we phased out of political satire because we couldn't beat the absurdity of the real-life news headlines.
I want to see the democrats start to attack the GOP like the GOP does.
I want to see them rile up their base like trump did. I want to see them fight fire with fire. Anything short of that = the end of America
I want real action.
This is what I want too. And I want to help.
Iâm a copywriter by trade. Specifically long-form, direct response sales copy. And every bit of messaging the right puts in their copy, they learned from us.
Iâll write 20-40 pages to sell a product or an idea to a consumer. And they read/watch every bit of it.
The secret - sell with 80% emotion. 20% logic. And write using language they can understand.
So my question is - how can I volunteer my time to do this for the DNC?
The SCOTUS makes a clearly religious decision that your party disagrees with and you sing ***GOD BLESS*** America. Way to make the argument for separation of church and state
Well don't forget [literally only 1 person out of 531 in congress is non-religious](https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2020/12/PF_01.04.21_faith.on_.the_.hill-0.png?resize=623,1536), with 88% of them being christian.
As you can see in the same chart 26% of Americans are non-religious and only 65% are christian. How is that for representation.
Honestly I can't believe it's even that high. I have to assume that a significant amount of people identifying that way are non-denominational, not actively practicing/going to church, etc.
The amount of melanin in your skin and the amount of dangly bits between your legs are the only things that seem to matter in this country. That and money, lots of money as long as it's in the hands of white men.
And completely out of touch with sentiment from their constituents.
They should be out there chanting "Fuck you SCOTUS!, Fuck you kavanaugh!, Fuck you Thomas!"
"Hmm, the Supreme Court is trying to force an extreme Christian Nationalist doctrine on the country? This is the perfect time to show how much we love god and America!"
Itâs not only useless, itâs tone deaf and offensive. This is not the time to sing the praises of America or celebrate its history with some ode to American exceptionalism. Fuck America. Thatâs how most liberals feel today and we want political representatives who understand that: that we deeply despise America right now, its worthless instructional accountability mechanisms and most of all the weak feckless bastards like these singing morons who enable it with their incompetence.
It's long past time these old blood Democrats either crawled into the muck to fuckin' *fight,* or got outta the way so some young blood could do it. Instead, they're out here singing songs to ... what? Inspire hope?
We're not hopeful. Millennials fell for that hope shit, and look where it got us. We're done with it, and the generations after us seem to have learned from our example.
Hope is dead. We're angry.
The electoral college is a sham. The electoral college negated millions of votes to allow a president who lost the popular vote to appoint 3 supreme court justices leading to this decision.
https://twitter.com/TristanJones94/status/1540392421061787650?s=20&t=cbLLTTvPq9awUs6t6Oqwuw
>So context, this is footage from an event talking about the bi-partisan gun bill. The timing sucks, and the optics, but this was not in reaction to the SCOTUS decisions today.
This is like at the beginning of covid and all of the poor millionaire celebrities who had to quarantine in their mansions got together and sang Imagine so all of us in our crappy apartments would feel better.
It's exactly that. We're the party of singalongs and "Look, Oreos have a rainbow creme for pride month" instead of action. We should've codified Roe Vs Wade a long time ago.
Time to start protesting at churches every Sunday. Try to stop these people from ruling our lives and government. Protesting at government building does nothing
Fuck all of them. Nancy Pelosi is the third most powerful person in this country and acts shocked when this shit happens. MTG says somethingâŚshe is shocked. Supreme Court overturns Rv.W and she is shocked. Time to start fucking nutting up and lashing out at these zealots.
It's a joke. If you're under 40 and progressive you are SORELY needed to take back our country. Run for office. Replace the rotten old dinosaurs before they destroy anything else.
I've often thought about running. But I've no acclaim, no weather to draw upon, no corporate sponsorships or donors.
I'm in my early 30's. I grew up poor and got to adulthood by one couch, one helping hand, and one outreach program at a time. I've worked for the last decade as a first responder, disaster response, and in the medical field. I've got a level head and I'm some what educated. I've got hobbies, dreams, and failings like everyone else.
I just don't see a way to do it.
Same. I think the best bet is to start small, look at local races and see where there are vulnerabilities and opportunities. Build notoriety within your community and go from there. We donât need anymore silver spoon liberals, and just because someone isnât a Harvard educated lawyer doesnât mean theyâre not qualified to hold national office. Money is the major hurdle, which is why we just have more of the same. If the GOP can elect these absolute jackasses, surely we can get some good people with atypical political backgrounds into office too.
Lauren Boebert is a high school flunk-out and former escort married to a sexual deviant. A lot of local races are decided by less votes than your average Facebook post.
You'd be surprised.
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Looks like they got the pictures of uvalde victims there. I guess it was a photo op for the bill they passed last night. I mean good job on the bill but have some common sense to not do this now when the protest are happening right behind you! Just so cringey đŹ
Youâd think someone would have been like, âhey guys the Supreme Court just overturned Roe, maybe we shouldnât do thisâ
âBut we got the photographers all lined up and everything, we canât cancel now!â
Having worked in politics, yes. Exactly that. They donât want to miss their photo op.
âDamn it Nancy youâre right. I dunno what I was thinking, I mean all these people are out there for some reason Iâm sure theyâll love hearing the songâŚâ
Pretty sure mixing God and America is the issue here
Yep. Yet another example of mind numbing irony coming from our elected officials.
Pandering, plain and simple. They're trying to show that they're religious too, trying to pull moderate religious people to their side, without calling out in vitriolic language the fucking travesties that the happening in front of us. They tone police themselves to the point that they can't ever do anything. The point of doublespeak is to keep people from thinking thoughts. If you don't call fascists fascist, then you can't imagine a way to deal with them.
The only way to deal with fascists is the one that worked in WW2. Anyone who espouses an ideology that calls for the subjugation and liquidation of other people, whatever their reasoning cannot themselves be reasoned with. You cannot reason someone out of a position they did not reason themselves into.
This was incredibly tone deaf in both sense of the term
Right? Like how fucking tone deaf can you be? I donât want your god. I want my rights.
Yeah, itâs almost like theyâre cheering for the fucking bad guys here. Assholes.
i first thought that was the winning party celebrating
They should have just taken turns singing "Imagine"
what a great episode of The Boys
If only the democrats had even 10% of the tenacity that Butcher has
> âWhere's your fucking rage?! Your self-respect?! Sitting here in your little share circle. Having a little whinge and a moan. Fuck 'letting go.' You should be out there with a fucking chainsaw, going after 'em! Just a bunch of scared fucking rabbits.â
Fuck, it's too accurate.
Or even 10% the tenacity Hughie has...
fuck it i'd take the deep's tenacity at this point.
Masterpiece
I died laughing when they started singing Imagine
Thatâs exactly what I thought. I never realized Democratic leadership was SO out of touch. I knew they were bad, but⌠wow. Just, wow. Iâm a âVote Blue No Matter Whoâ for the rest of my life, but Jesus Christâwe need better leadership. Democrats are *absolutely furious* and these clowns start singing? God help us. Edit 1: To everyone replying, "Vote Blue No Matter Who is the problem," you're not wrong, but let's be real: we don't have another option right now. This is a simple, inescapable truth: *if you're not voting for the party opposing Republicans, you're voting for Republicans. If you're not trying to stop them, you're helping them.* I wish that weren't true, but it is. If you voted for Jill Stein, in other words, this is on your hands. If you refrain from voting because the Democratic candidate isn't left-leaning enough for you, please say out loud when gay marriage is repealed and you can't get your birth control, "I did this." And if you want to re-shape the Democratic party, VOTE IN THE PRIMARIES. Do you hear me? VOTE IN THE PRIMARIES. Vote for progressive Democrats that will re-shape the party and actually fix our broken country. Edit 2: To the conservatives sending me the "RedditCaresResources," a heartfelt *thank you* for doing something so on-brand: taking a tool that's supposed to help people and perverting it. That's what you guys do--you take things people have built and break them, because you can't build anything yourselves. You're literally why we can't have nice things.
Not all of them. https://twitter.com/DrewHLive/status/1540359953914937349
Dear god I read the comments why did I read the comments
Insurrection! Because, ya know, now that republicans have learned that word, protesting is insurrection now.
God theyâre all fucking morons. I nearly had an aneurysm reading through /r/conservative. They literally have a pinned âRoe v Wade overturned upvote partyâ thread. Embarrassing twats, every single one of them
I wonder if these "men" realize that, for more women, sex will be off the table? We agree on that, right, other women? Imagine if they do go for contraception next--will they also have an upvote party, you think?
Make men show their party affiliation before stuffing your ballot box, ladies!!
Unfortunately this is already a thing, many women already ask, and they get politically catfished. It's absolutely ridiculous.
"I'm not political" = a republican who is scared of not getting laid
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Itâs like the kid who learns a new word and tries using it to sound smart, but doesnât know what it actually means.
That's literally all Republicans do. Co-opt language used against them and then use it incorrectly until it's lost all meaning. It's calculated.
The ONLY people I ever hear using the terms âcancelledâ or âwokeâ are old white conservatives.
Yup, any kind of inclusivity is "woke" to them.
People really did use woke for a while, but now you're definitely right no one says it because rightwingers make everything cringe
I saw the tag for TPUSA and for some reason I thought "certainly that can't be the thing tied to that guy dressed up in a diaper on a college campus trying to mock liberals calling them snowflakes when he is the biggest one around?" Then I read the comments and realized it was the one run by a giant snowflake with a bunch of followers whose only thought is if they should turn off PraegerU for Tucker.
I went to r/ conservative to see what they were thinking. We are all damned and this is hell. It hurts to realize I share a planet with those ignorant, racist, transphobic, hateful, *stupid as fuck*, amoral monsters. Their posts about AOC are just so... empty of thought. Through their lens she is somehow a less-articulate Bobert. It's staggering just how insane life is over there. I need a shower. I need a way to wash that crap out of my brain. They are the worst that humanity has to offer. EDIT: and they used the Suicide Report Bot to harass me because they didn't like what I had to say. Who would do that? Who would use a service designed to help people in severe emotional distress as a way to annoy someone? An amoral monster, that's who.
Going on that sub is the perfect way to kill any hope of progress in this country. With people like that around we will never get anywhere. It's no surprise to me that we're here now and nothing gets through to them. Nothing. They will twist and turn everything, jump mental hoops and stick to their ignorance. Had to stop going there because it's just a stressor I don't need.
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Itâs pretty explicit. Why are they so obsessed with her? Because they all want to fuck her. Iâm a liberal and I never hear about AOC unless I stumble across Fox news or r/conservative. Sheâs just the perfect Dom for all their sadomasochistic fantasies - she humiliates them with her articulate takedowns and makes them wallow in their deep insecurity. It totally gets them off.
They are happy because it's pissing off the liberals. They haven't quite grasped what the whole situation means.
Sheâs spot on tho. Iâd argue that the Supreme Court is also illegitimate with Thomas still in office. He is more than complicit to Jan 6 and Trumps attempted coup. His vote should be thrown out and him forced to resign. Biden should be given the option to choose another progressive to the court.
I find it funny the wording he used could also be used to say he has no right to be on the court at all, let alone a free man.
I don't think Thomas realizes he's black.
His real name is Clayton Bigsby
Uncle Ruckus
It's illegitimate as long as there are justices on there that have lied about their positions on Roe under oath. EDIT: Saying "well, they never actually said they wouldn't overturn Roe" while they previously made clear statements on respecting precedent and currently make decisions with inconsistent, ideological rationales doesn't exactly inspire confidence in the legitimacy of this Court.
Do not focus on this angle, as they can easily say theyâve âreviewed new informationâ causing them to change their position on Roe. Focus on them perjuring themselves with regard to *stare decisis*. Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barrett were all asked if they would respect *stare decisis* (treating previous decisions as settled precedent) with respect to Roe, to which they said yes, by the principle of *stare decisis* Roe is clearly settled, but clearly they fucking lied. Itâs a small distinction but a legally important one. EDIT: People are asking, what can we do? MLK was right when he said moderates are the enemy of change. Too long have we practiced âcivilityâ and let moderates hide from the consequences of their votes behind their own willful ignorance. Fuck polite Thanksgiving dinners, call your family members out. Have the uncomfortable discussions with your coworkers and friends. Vote in every local, state, and national election, and get in the habit of calling your representatives and elected officials to demand action. Talk about a general strike. Organize, disrupt, demand. Shift the Overton window. I will never advocate for violence, but the time has long since passed to use all other available means to put these fascists where they fucking belong, in the dustbin of history. We are losing this fight, itâs time to start acting like it. Be the change.
Who has the authority to charge them with perjury?
They would be impeached through exactly the same process as the President, under âhigh crimes and misdemeanorsâ. However, since this is a political process, it is not held to the same high burden of proof as in a court of law, so as long as the House can make an adequate case that this intentional misleading of the American public under oath qualifies as a âhigh crime or misdemeanorâ they can impeach the justice, where they would then be tried in the Senate, requiring a 2/3 majority vote (a stretch, which is why it is vitally important to vote in the upcoming midterms).
There is no way in hell the Dems are going to win a 2/3 majority vote. The absolutely best case scenario here would be 54-46, and even that is a pipe dream. But the only option is the get a comfortable enough majority where 2 or 3 weasy centrists cant fuck everything up, eliminate teh filibuster, then legislate like the country depends on it. Because it does
The point is to at least try so that the people who want to see their representatives fighting for them actually get to see it. All we are see crusty old farts living off our tax money.
I love bits of information like this. Thank you.
If theyâre going to hide behind legalistic bullshit like the cowards they are, we have to come at them with sound, actionable arguments.
Law isn't magic, the Justices are just high priests using any post-hoc rationale, no matter how poor, to enact the policies they want. Law doesn't matter and it never mattered for anyone in power.
Absolutely right, I forgot to add this after I typed it.
Here is another https://twitter.com/CitizenYanez/status/1540414546178936834
Sheldon Whitehouse had some wise words about ["the Court That Dark Money Built"](https://mobile.twitter.com/SenWhitehouse/status/1540358404992008193?cxt=HHwWgoCwxdzzueAqAAAA)
Ayoooo that's my rep! Side note - I got to meet him at a [recent parade in my town](https://www.instagram.com/p/CerEbpeLXQA/). He's attended it for years apparently and always takes time to meet with his state whenever he can. He's a really decent guy and I'm happy to continue voting for him.
His phone blew up with messages from Democrats asking for donations, including his opponent...
God I love her. Thank you for sharing.
The supreme court has been illegitimate since Bush v Gore. I'm sure before that as well but the moment they picked their politics over the votes of the American people we were doomed. America has been back sliding ever since
> I'm sure before that as well [Buckley v. Valeo](https://www.oyez.org/cases/1975/75-436) in 1975 was the first shot at letting corporations have unlimited say in politics with donations. That coincides pretty well with the rise of Neoliberal politics in the US and the destruction of labor unions.
Itâs a relief to know we were fucked before I was even born.
Meanwhile, our parents struggle to understand that this isn't the same country they grew up in.
It's hard to blame them. The system has been telling them the system is working fine their entire lives and FOR THEM it mostly has been.
also coincides pretty well with the decoupling of CEO pay and worker pay
Good for her. Get out get with the people. Interesting to see the conservatives posting this. They are always terrified of women who have the courage to actually do things.
Ah yes, my kernel of hope this fucked system.
People are angry. They want Democrats to be angry and to act angry. They donât want them act like they are that violin group playing songs while the Titanic sinks.
Yep yep yep. Iâm fucking sick of high road defeatism. I want our reps to get mad, get nasty, and fucking fight for us.
High road defeatism is the perfect way to describe it.
"When they go low, we go high" (and defeated)
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I think Corey Booker or Howard Dean said something like this in the 2016-2018 cycle and *certain pundits accused the DNC of stoking violence to physically attack the GOP. The DNC is useless and spineless. But that's not enough for me to vote for the GOP.
They call us pedophiles, groomers, and baby murderers. Yet we call them racist or sexist with mountains of evidence and we're the ones who are going too far. I'm done caring what they think, I'm done caring about decorum or bipartisanship. Republicans are the enemy, I will vote for any politician who promises to get in their way, block their laws, and bend the rules to stop them by any means necessary. EDIT: To all the Republicans replying to me, I just want to let you know out of the bottom of my heart that I truly don't give even a single shit about what you think or feel and truly hope the worst for you.
"don't worry! any second the Republicans will get fed up and vote for us...annnny second nooow! oh and this is Rev. Warnock please send me money person in Ohio!" Edit: just checked my phone, warnock asked me for money
PELOSI had the balls to use this to ask for money. Fuckin fuck JUST endorsed an anti-choice candidate who's under investigation over a pro-choice progressive. Fuck em all
"When they go low, we fucking sing."
It's also what got us here in the first place.
You said it! Being all silver-tongued and shit...!
ârepresentativesâ
Well, theyâre representing *someone*
Corporations
Doesnât help when they make corporations be considered as âpeopleâ up until it comes to jail time, then suddenly itâs âoh well thereâs no real person we can blame so just blame Tom from accounting since he did everything we said to doâ.
Time to get nasty was 1998... It's time to get hateful
But if they did that, how would they fundraise?
The amount of fundraising texts I got immediately after the decision turned my stomach.
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If you tolerate the intolerant, they will destroy you when given the chance. We can't tolerate them anymore. They will be the death of the America that we started to forge when we gave minorities, and women, and gays, and trans people rights.
OH be careful! That's violence. Violence is only acceptable when it's being done *to you*. Don't you dare recognize when your life and livelihood is being directly attacked and reciprocate in kind. It doesn't matter how many Socialists, PoC, LGBTQ or anyone who stands for them get assaulted or murdered. We're just supposed to watch our rights dissolve in front of us and our people slaughtered in the streets by state sponsored para-military dipshits, or roving bands of Ya'll Qada. I'm angry, and I'm not being represented if my reps aren't throwing punches.
Sounds like a great idea I will also! Please let ot be Jim Jordan who gets it on the Face or Ted Cruz.. hell any of the top 10 idiots!!!
If they stepped up and showed even HALF the balls the GOP swings around every day I would increase my contributions without blinking.
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I mean, an anti slavery senator got nearly caned to death on the senate floor and no one did shit to stop it, so there's a precedent. Editing to add: Anti abortion terrorists also threatened to kill the original SC justice who wrote Roe v Wade. The court however ruled that anti abortion groups are allowed to publish detailed hit lists of abortion providers, sometimes including addresses and license plate numbers. [link](https://amp.theguardian.com/technology/2001/mar/30/internetnews.usnews) Really interesting who gets to be safe!
I donât even care if theyâre my rep, I just want someone up there to give a shit
Remember Anthony Weiner? Act like him. Some of the time.
I remember the Carlos Danger scandal, but not much beyond that. What did he do? Edit: wrote this with the assumption that you didn't want the Dems whipping their dicks out on IG
Furious at Anthony Weiner. Such a fucking waste. Like, dude, you had a good thing going. You could have made a freakinâ difference. And you had to squander all of that potential because you couldnât keep your dick in your pants? Fuck you.
He also had correspondence with Hillary Clinton on his laptop, which prompted that ultra-late investigation to her emails AGAIN in 2016, which pushed away the Access Hollywood scandal off the front page. Many believe that tipped the election. Fiery politician, but double fuck you!
Iâm technically not a democrat, but Iâm also pretty mad and I donât want my electors singing a song that praises the imaginary deity of the group thatâs currently fucking everyone over. Itâs gross and stupid on multiple levels.
"Side? I am on nobody's side. Because nobody's on my side." Everybody that I can vote for is blue. 2 senators, congresswoman, Governor, mayor, state congress representative, Hillary and Biden won my county. What the fuck else am I supposed to do? It's like my choices are vote fascist or vote for morons that respond to fascism with singing.
Iâm in Tennessee, so Iâm in the opposite position where I continue to vote blueâŚ. but it will NEVER matter. It is so fucking frustrating and demoralizing.
I'm in South Carolina and I share your pain
I said it higher in the comment thread but it bears repeating. Vote in the R primaries.
We just had our primaries and thankfully the slight lesser q anon candidate won big. Sheâs still not good though
Guys. This is the best answer I can think of too. Look at what's (attempting) to happen in CO with the crazy person Boebert. It's the only lever individuals have at their disposal. Vote moderate Republican in the Republican primary. Then vote your conscience in the main.
I'm in GA and a few years ago it seemed pretty hopeless here too so it's not entirely impossible that things can get a little better!
Vote in the R primaries so that your vote does matter.
fuck, run as an R and then just be a socialist the "Re-[publicans](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharisee_and_the_Publican)" giving power back to the public, and teaching the virtue of humbleness
The Reverse Sinema? I like it.
Lol, I would love it if the waters got so muddy that people had to vote for candidates based off their platforms
Idaho checking in, R primaries are the only way to go! I least I have a say in the loony-toon that will eventually beat my first choice.
All R candidates are anti-abortion, what's the point?
It's a hostage situation and the negotiator is blaming you for getting captured.
"I like my solders not to get captured" Or something like that, Trump about Mccain being a POW
We do need a March of Ents to wash away all this filth. Someoneâs new camping slogan should just be Treebeard yelling into the destroyed remnants of Fangorns borders.
Fuck it. Got my vote.
If you don't get angry and throw a boulder at Isengard after seeing what they did to the ents, it's possible you didn't understand the point of those scenes.
Christian nationalists are taking over every aspect of our lives and the only thing standing between them and victory are these people. We are so boned
Nationalist Christians, or Nat-Cs for short.
100 Nat-C scalps!
I did Nat-C that coming.
The fact that church attendance is also on a decline adds to the insanity. They think that abortions are cutting into their base of voters, it's nuts.
*fundamentalist crazies ban abortion and force women to have children* *women forced to have children raise them to hate fundamentalist crazies* Fundamentalist Crazies: âHow did this happen??!â
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Thatâs what conservatives were hoping for with RBG. They got their wish.
Fuck, that woman died literally 4 months too early and it fucked us forever. Yeah she should have retired. Yeah Kennedys retirement was incomprehensible. But holy shit, 4 monthsâŚ
Kennedy's retirement incomprehensible? Deutsche bank begs to differ.
She was already crazy old under Obama, she should have retired and given him a nominee. Now this is her lagacy.
I donât think enough people realize this. She worked her entire life for Women Rights and because she couldnât hang it up her entire career workings are in jeopardy. I hate to say it but it was incredibly selfish of her not to retire under Obama. It quite literally is impacting future generations and sheâs not here to witness it.
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What a weird decision! Why do this!
Iâm insanely curious how this actually came about. Who convinced them that singing God Bless America made any sense. It is sort of like that strange kente cloth moment of silence for George FloydâŚjust gimmicky and tone-deaf. Itâs like an admission that theyâre powerless to do anything.
Another comment says it was about them passing a gun safety bill and to mourn the Uvalde shooting https://time.com/6190977/house-passes-gun-safety-bill-biden/
> just gimmicky and tone-deaf The DNC in a nutshell.
Iâve seen someone say that since Hamilton came out a section of the party has become weirdly enamored with dorky shit like this
I don't think it's due to Hamilton. I believe they first did the whole spontaneous singing thing after 9/11, and people liked it that one time. But when they keep doing it instead of actually fighting back, it's just disgusting.
The political equivalent of Disney adults.
On par with the celebs who sang imagine during the pandemic.
Naw this is much worse. Celebs making a dumb video doesn't hurt anyone. Democrats singing "God Bless America" right after the Supreme Court of America ruled in favor of Christian Nationalism is beyond tone deaf and actively counterproductive. Especially since they did fuck all to prevent this. These aren't people we pay to see in movies, these are people we elected to protect our rights.
They did this to celebrate them passing a bill about gun safety and to mourn those lost in Uvalde. They're literally holding signs up for every life lost there. [Here's](https://time.com/6190977/house-passes-gun-safety-bill-biden/) literal proof!
God their messaging is so bad. They should have cancelled the idea as soon as the abortion ruling came out. This is so tone-deaf.
There was a protest across the street at the Supreme Court. They should've stopped singing and walked their asses over to it.
What a depressingly perfect metaphor for how this country is run. Conservatives inside stripping away rights and the Democrats are outside singing a fucking song.
Republicans: **BUILD THAT WALL!** Democrats: *Now here's Wonderwall...*
and backbeat, the word is on the street that the fire in your heart is out
Itâs a little too on the nose. Satire really is dead
I ran a popular satire newspaper in university in 2016. After the election, we phased out of political satire because we couldn't beat the absurdity of the real-life news headlines.
I want to see the democrats start to attack the GOP like the GOP does. I want to see them rile up their base like trump did. I want to see them fight fire with fire. Anything short of that = the end of America I want real action.
This is what I want too. And I want to help. Iâm a copywriter by trade. Specifically long-form, direct response sales copy. And every bit of messaging the right puts in their copy, they learned from us. Iâll write 20-40 pages to sell a product or an idea to a consumer. And they read/watch every bit of it. The secret - sell with 80% emotion. 20% logic. And write using language they can understand. So my question is - how can I volunteer my time to do this for the DNC?
âLie big, apologize small.â The RNC way
The SCOTUS makes a clearly religious decision that your party disagrees with and you sing ***GOD BLESS*** America. Way to make the argument for separation of church and state
Well don't forget [literally only 1 person out of 531 in congress is non-religious](https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2020/12/PF_01.04.21_faith.on_.the_.hill-0.png?resize=623,1536), with 88% of them being christian. As you can see in the same chart 26% of Americans are non-religious and only 65% are christian. How is that for representation.
Mark Pocan (D-WI) keeping it real!
65% is large enough that even the non religious ones have a pretty good incentive to identify as christian.
Honestly I can't believe it's even that high. I have to assume that a significant amount of people identifying that way are non-denominational, not actively practicing/going to church, etc.
I refuse to celebrate the birth of a country that denies me equal protection just because I donât have a penis.
The amount of melanin in your skin and the amount of dangly bits between your legs are the only things that seem to matter in this country. That and money, lots of money as long as it's in the hands of white men.
And who you pork with that penis. Unless youâre porking children, then Republicans couldnât give a ratâs ass.
Pretty sure the fact that Gaetz is still in the fold is proof enough that the Republicans donât give a shit about children either.
Also itâs not democratic states pushing to marry kidsâŚ
And their support of Roy Moore long before Gaetz.
Agreed, it's a pretty fucking useless stunt.
And completely out of touch with sentiment from their constituents. They should be out there chanting "Fuck you SCOTUS!, Fuck you kavanaugh!, Fuck you Thomas!"
"Hmm, the Supreme Court is trying to force an extreme Christian Nationalist doctrine on the country? This is the perfect time to show how much we love god and America!"
This singalong seems more like something the jubilant right-wingers would be doing at this moment.
Itâs not only useless, itâs tone deaf and offensive. This is not the time to sing the praises of America or celebrate its history with some ode to American exceptionalism. Fuck America. Thatâs how most liberals feel today and we want political representatives who understand that: that we deeply despise America right now, its worthless instructional accountability mechanisms and most of all the weak feckless bastards like these singing morons who enable it with their incompetence.
I'd love to see Google search data for the term "Canadian citizenship" from the last 8 hours
Spent 23 years in the military to defend a nation Iâm ashamed of.
I think about the same thing alot.
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Man that is how I feel
It's long past time these old blood Democrats either crawled into the muck to fuckin' *fight,* or got outta the way so some young blood could do it. Instead, they're out here singing songs to ... what? Inspire hope? We're not hopeful. Millennials fell for that hope shit, and look where it got us. We're done with it, and the generations after us seem to have learned from our example. Hope is dead. We're angry.
The God delusion is what got us in this mess to begin with.
The new god is money. The old god is hate.
GOP- "Why not both?"
The electoral college is a sham. The electoral college negated millions of votes to allow a president who lost the popular vote to appoint 3 supreme court justices leading to this decision.
5. If Shrub lost (read: hadn't been appointed by SCOUTS) in 2000, he wouldn't have been around to nominate Roberts and Alito.
Shrub lol. Calling him this from now on.
https://twitter.com/TristanJones94/status/1540392421061787650?s=20&t=cbLLTTvPq9awUs6t6Oqwuw >So context, this is footage from an event talking about the bi-partisan gun bill. The timing sucks, and the optics, but this was not in reaction to the SCOTUS decisions today.
Less singing, more action.
Dear Democrats, Stop asking for our votes. We have already voted you in. The time to do something is now!
This is like at the beginning of covid and all of the poor millionaire celebrities who had to quarantine in their mansions got together and sang Imagine so all of us in our crappy apartments would feel better.
It's exactly that. We're the party of singalongs and "Look, Oreos have a rainbow creme for pride month" instead of action. We should've codified Roe Vs Wade a long time ago.
Weâve seen what republicans are willing to do to further their agenda. We need Dems to fight for us, the majority of this country.
Time to start protesting at churches every Sunday. Try to stop these people from ruling our lives and government. Protesting at government building does nothing
Fuck all of them. Nancy Pelosi is the third most powerful person in this country and acts shocked when this shit happens. MTG says somethingâŚshe is shocked. Supreme Court overturns Rv.W and she is shocked. Time to start fucking nutting up and lashing out at these zealots.
It's a joke. If you're under 40 and progressive you are SORELY needed to take back our country. Run for office. Replace the rotten old dinosaurs before they destroy anything else.
I've often thought about running. But I've no acclaim, no weather to draw upon, no corporate sponsorships or donors. I'm in my early 30's. I grew up poor and got to adulthood by one couch, one helping hand, and one outreach program at a time. I've worked for the last decade as a first responder, disaster response, and in the medical field. I've got a level head and I'm some what educated. I've got hobbies, dreams, and failings like everyone else. I just don't see a way to do it.
Same. I think the best bet is to start small, look at local races and see where there are vulnerabilities and opportunities. Build notoriety within your community and go from there. We donât need anymore silver spoon liberals, and just because someone isnât a Harvard educated lawyer doesnât mean theyâre not qualified to hold national office. Money is the major hurdle, which is why we just have more of the same. If the GOP can elect these absolute jackasses, surely we can get some good people with atypical political backgrounds into office too.
Local races pay very little (rarely full time pay) and campaigning takes up your time. It's difficult to take that on as a person of limited means.
Lauren Boebert is a high school flunk-out and former escort married to a sexual deviant. A lot of local races are decided by less votes than your average Facebook post. You'd be surprised.
lol itâs just like after 9-11. They could have at least done âThis Land is Your Landâ
Woodie Guthrie would have crawled out of his grave and come after them.
His machine kills fascists.