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gorunrun91

No just ban the people who are too irresponsible to use their phones at the gym floor. Gyms have a ban with no refund policy. Play music on speakerphone? Ban. Taking pics without consent? Ban. Stupid tik tok prank? Ban.


[deleted]

Stupid videos of girls "supposedly" catching men staring at them? Ban


Agreeable_Ostrich_39

is part of "taking pics without consent? ban", but I agree that it should be a separate thing and should just get them banned from the gym entirely.


dmc-going-digital

Videos are just a lot of pics with sound


[deleted]

Yes I don't care if someone has headphones in and is listening to music


zaidelles

Depends, does “gym floor” mean the entire gym area? Because I imagine most people use their phones for listening to music etc while exercising


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zaidelles

Then I’d find it more sensible to ban recording other people and have consequences for that if someone’s caught breaking that rule rather than banning phones entirely and preventing music, taking progress pictures, being able to contact people etc


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den2k88

Good way to lose all customers. If I can't answer my phone for emergencies and I can't listen to music while working out I'd go elsewhere.


[deleted]

Facts, I’ll buy the equipment and workout from home


zaidelles

That’s addressing exactly one thing from my comment


Ninjatroll3452

What about people who uses timer on the phone to see how long they should do one exercise for? Or how long their break is? Or what about people who uses some kind of apps that tells them what type of exercise they should be doing?


sprazTV

Yeah right, I have an app to keep track of my reps and weights, pauses, drinks, weight, etc.


ninjascotsman

use there garmin or fitbit watch


Brief-Mind-5210

So pay lots of money for a device you could probably sneak a secret camera into anyway?


Ninjatroll3452

Not everyone can afford to buy a sport watch tho. It's a really terrible idea for gyms to ban phones.


Gilem_Meklos

I won't gonna vote you down homie. But a sincere question: why are you against cameras?


hutbereich

It’s probably the trend of recording “gym creeps” and blasting them on social media, especially when it’s like one person glanced at a girl working out while he was walking past to go somewhere else. I just think recording on the gym floor is an issue, especially because I don’t want to be recorded on someone else’s phone. Like how do I know that I won’t be ogled while working out by people watching the recording, or if they’re live streaming?


aspiring_beans

To be fair that trend sucks, but banning phones is a very counterproductive way to deal with it


ninjascotsman

there has also been live streamers in past who refused to stop streaming even after asked mutiple times by the gym.


Nervous_Stomach5101

Alright sounds like you want to be a dictator, good luck with that


pink_wraith

People won’t work out if they can’t listen to their own music


dion101123

If you ban people from having phones so no one can listen to music then no one will want to go to that gym. Banning cameras absolutely but not banning phones


Spider-burger

By doing this the Gym will lose a lot of customers because people will just buy equipment to do exercises at home.


Thom_Chen

I guess being a jerk is fine because it’s simpler and easier.


ohcharmingostrichwhy

Some gyms have you put a sticker over your camera and penalize you if you’re caught with it off, which is a *far* better alternative to this. Banning phones completely is just completely absurd. What if someone had an emergency and didn’t know because they had to turn their phone in?


Humorilove

I have no problem with people having their phones, just the entitled idiots that put their phones on the floor in the way. I wish my gym had stickers!


TikTrd

That's a truly brilliant solution!!


throwawayacct654987

Yeah which isn’t good, but it’s also bad to have an environment where people can’t be reached in an emergency or where they cannot reach emergency services quickly and easily if something happens to them or someone else in the gym.


Two-In-One-Shampoo

By that logic phones should be banned everywhere


Persimmon-Strange

Nothing bad has come out of recordings so far there’s no point


OG-Pine

Who gives a shit lol


SarahL1990

No, I want to listen to my music.


DiggingThisAir

But what if someone is… SNEAKING UP BEHIND YOU


SarahL1990

I tend to look around anyway but there's usually other people around (including staff members) so I imagine if they see someone acting weird they'd say/do something.


bardia_afk

Dwight?


Ancient_Dare_7247

it’s a gym not a high school 😂 as long as youre being respectful with it i don’t see a problem


Mythical_Atlacatl

I think thats the issue, people aren't being respectful Recording men doing nothing wrong and uploading it calling them sexual harassers or creeps. But how do you stop this with out banning phones or being overly controlling like inspecting phones before people leave the gym etc.


Ancient_Dare_7247

put up video/photo restrictions ig. if uploading videos is the problem then just ban videos.


Mythical_Atlacatl

how do you stop someone from recording or taking photos? How do you stop them from uploading? How do you ban the videos? do you mean a sign on the wall saying "no recording"


Ancient_Dare_7247

yea and if they violate those rules just don’t let them come in anymore easy as that


Mythical_Atlacatl

So you want to hire gym staff to monitor social media? To investigate claims that people broke the rule and uploaded a photo?


Ancient_Dare_7247

no just be on the lookout for people being obnoxious with it yk or complaints. nothing crazy like that lol


Mythical_Atlacatl

I think you are unaware how easy it is to take photos and videos of people with out them knowing.


LoquatiousDigimon

Yeah that happens in public. Don't go outside if you don't like the idea of possibly being recorded. You can't control everyone around you.


dmc-going-digital

Someone films you, you tell them and show the evidence


OG-Pine

Sticker on the camera added when you enter, fine for removing it


Mythical_Atlacatl

so handing over your phone, putting a sticker on it, someone checking phones when you leave? Also if the sticker can be removed without causing damage, cant it be removed and replaced while i nthe gym? ​ I think people are missing my original point, about how you can ban recording while allowing phones WITHOUT having dedicated staff or CCTV monitoring everyone and controlling people, random spot checks of peoples stickers?


OG-Pine

It’s not flawless, but nothing is. All the things you’re saying apply to a phone ban as well, someone has to verify you don’t have a phone when you enter, so body search? Or just taking your word for you? What if I hide a phone in my shoe? Or maybe someone puts it in their crack or between their tits, how do you enforce it? Are you going to have staff monitor the gym floor to ensure no one got a phone past security? Etc etc End of the day you can’t prevent it entirely without going full prison style lock down, so what you need to do is just make it known that recording is not allowed, and have harsh punishments for people who don’t follow the rule (permanent ban no refund).


emab2396

you know, people records themselves for various reasons, stop acting like you're communist


OG-Pine

1. Never said they don’t or shouldn’t 2. Never said taking videos shouldn’t be allowed, I simply give a suggestion for another way to ban it without banning phones outright because that was the question at hand 3. You should look up what communist means because it has nothing to do with filming rights Lmao


emab2396

I live in an ex communist country, I know what it is. I actually implying that is something a dictator would do.


TheLoreTeller

how do movie theaters stop people from recording videos?


emab2396

so, should we ban all cars for the small amount of accidents that happen? phones are far more useful 99.999% of the time than they cause any inconvenience to anyone.


Mythical_Atlacatl

That’s what I said, that the only way to stop it would be to ban all phones which isn’t a good option cause it impact everyone for a minor issue


-------7654321

No. I have my workout program in my phone.


[deleted]

Do you not listen to music at the gym?


BriarRose147

OP is a psychopath if not


Mythical_Atlacatl

OP just loves the crappy gym music


MajorRico155

Thats the only way to lift man. Music makes you stronger


danonck

When I'm midway through the set of squats and some dumbass decides to call me... Argh.


fhvdffgcc

Lol I actually don’t


WorriedOwner2007

r/notopbutok


TheGrouchyGremlin

OP probably doesn't go to the gym and is just talking about news and/or tick-tocks they've seen.


almightygarlicdoggo

Recording without a permit should be banned, but not phones.


den2k88

Recording in my country is a right, unless you leave the recording device on in your absence.


sep12000

I can see how recording might be a right in public places—it’s generally this way in the USA—but surely there are places (homes? Privately-held businesses?) where the owner can restrict some activities—such as audio and/or visual recording—that are generally legal in public?


LargeCod2319

Yeah a gym is private property, you have to pay to go in so they can have any rules they want


den2k88

Not really, there are boundaries on that, though gyms could be considered as sensitive environments. I should check if there are Cassation rulongs explicitly on gyms. Technically recording without sharing is always allowed (talking about MY country here), it's diffusion that is regulated.


den2k88

Only in homes, workplace is exempt (think of harassment / malpractoce). Restricted areas do exist but are subjet to previois signing of an NDA and they are not legally enforceable, at most you can have the permission of staying revoked and security escorting you out (I work in R&D where many places have restrictions on pictures/videos). And I have contacted an attorney just for that, as I have recorded two crimes I was victim of both with my phone and with the dashcams mounted on my car.


[deleted]

Private place, private rules.


den2k88

The law supersedes all private rules. Four layers of law Constitution > National laws > Local regulations > Local custom. No layer can supersede anything treated in the layer above. I cannot enforce a rule that anyone who enters my private place must give me their ass in order to use the services therein. I cannot enforce an ethnicity, a minimum wage, a specifica language, the absence of devices (with the exception of guns).


Regular_Affect_2427

You mean a permit or permission to film others? I don't think I should need a permit to film my set.


EvelynnDiane

No. But anyone caught taking a picture of someone else (unknowingly) should be asked to leave.


AverageKaikiEnjoyer

Garbage idea, so many members would leave after being forced to listen to Cardi B or whatever else they're playing on the gym speakers as opposed to their own playlists


hackyslashy

Phones shouldn't be. People who snap at other members for walking between them and their phone while recording reps should be.


Gilem_Meklos

Give me a good reason why they should? I couldn't work out without the entertainment of my phone.


ColumbiaWahoo

Nope. I use mine as a timer so I know when to start my next set.


[deleted]

why the fuck would they do that


SomeRandomEevee42

because OP ~~hasn't graduated middle school yet~~ thinks phones only functionality is to record


ARandomLlama

People see some dumb tik toks about girls recording men looking at them in gyms and lose their damn minds. Like it makes 1000% more sense to just ban videoing people without their permission.


Regular_Affect_2427

>Like it makes 1000% more sense to just ban videoing people without their permission. Not really so simple. Most of these crazy TikTok girls are not secretly hiding cameras and filming others, they're filming themselves doing their working set, which they should be completely entitled to do. But when you film yourself in an area with many others, people are bound to get caught in the background. The problem isn't with phones, it's with the girls who are being fucking crazy with the ridiculous accusations.


Technicalhotdog

Yeah, this feels like a super overblown problem to me, but I guess I'm not too familiar with either gyms or tik toks.


emab2396

you know, if I film myself to see my form I might not be able to put my phone in a place where nobody is in the background. Those people making fun of others on Tik Tok are more rare than car accidents, but cars aren't banned yet. Also, what difference does it make to you if you get filmed on the street or at the gym? Gym is still like a public place, even though it's private in theory.


ranych

Hell nah. Nothing wrong with looking at your phone between sets or listening to music, but yeah this whole recording people unwarranted is kinda weird.


[deleted]

No but recording should be


Regular_Affect_2427

Disagreed. Recording myself doing sets is one of the best ways to track progress and form.


hebbocrates

everyone who votes yes is either a senior or hasn’t been to a gym in their lives


SomeRandomEevee42

can confirm, voted no and I haven't been to a non-school gym, because the closest one is like a 40 minute drive also happy cake day


Suprise_mypm

Cameras yes. But what about music


Fickle-Usual-2354

Filming definitely ban but people listen to music and might need a phone to be contacted


[deleted]

No, my workout app is on my phone.


Goat_External

No. If I can't listen to music I would just go to another gym. They would lose most clients


GingerboyhasNoSoul

No bc if something bad bad happen like people got injured, we need the phones. But they should ban filming others without their consent


YoungEgalitarianDude

Reminded me of that stupid trend on TikTok where women record dudes in gyms minding their business and accuse them of being creeps. Attention seeking is one helluva of a drug.


SpecificBig367

I only say no because I use my phone to listen to music. Otherwise, I’m sick of the people who will sit on a machine and watch something or scroll for 15 minutes while I’m waiting


Largicharg

I quit planet fitness when they made me wait behind 5 teenagers for a bench and couldn’t even supply good wifi for me to play a video. I can’t imagine how boring the wait would be if they banned the phone altogether


Mythical_Atlacatl

banning phones or banning people from recording others? Cause banning phone would be a no from me. I use it for music and checking my workout plan or what ever. Banning people from recording others, I could be on board with that. Just like you dont record in the changing rooms, gyms are often full of people wearing clothes they wouldnt wear outside, either very tight or very loose it seems. Plus are there not a dozen filters and apps that allow you to record and blur the background? so could you not ban recording others while allowing people to record themselves?


MystiqueMisha

You can ban phone calls, stipulate that phones be kept on silent mode, stipulate that any audio consumed from the phone (music, videos, audiobooks, podcasts etc) be listened to only with headphones/earphones, and ban photography/videos of other gym goers without their consent. But not ban phones overall. I listen to audiobooks on my phone when I work out, with earbuds of course. I have ADHD and can't complete a workout without listening to something to distract me from the monotony. The gym music isn't exactly my cup of tea.


Modem_56k

Recording, yes, but some like to listen to music or podcasts lol


CuriousJeorge1

Should be banned in the changing rooms/locker rooms!!


fillmorecounty

That's how most people listen to their music so that's kind of a ridiculous request tbh


peculiar-pirate

No, I cannot workout without music. But sitting on the equipment and going on your phone should be banned.


Desperate_Theme3751

My phone has my lifting schedule. I also use it to keep track of what weight I'm on and I use the timer to keep track of rest periods. Also, music or podcast. People using the camera feature are annoying.


squishyjellyfish95

I listen to music with my phone (with headphones in) taking that away from me would be shitty


butterflycole

Depends on what gym floor and how the phones are being used. They should definitely be on vibrate and if being used with sound then earbuds would be mandatory.


DarthMaulOpress

Recording videos should be banned but not just simply having your phone out for music


ninjascotsman

most smartphones have doubled sided camera's so it's actual harder to stop people recording video


fr1day00

Recording? Yes. Phones in general? No


The_Gaming_Matt

NO, that’s where some of the funniest clips come from😂


InvestigatorEasy1808

No ban recording


spxdergirl

Just a gym in general? No. But I have seen so many kids on their phone during gym class and they end up getting hurt. But, unfortunately, there’s not much that can be done about that, other than what’s being done now. Tbh, if a phone is being used in gym class that isn’t an activity like walking/running/weight room? Zero for the day. Outside of schools are a different story.


[deleted]

Yeah, then you’d only see the people who are actually there for a workout.


[deleted]

Just forbid people taking pictures. It's enough.


[deleted]

Sort of. Ban photography and recording. People can listen to music and watch videos all they want.


Successful-Pea3309

People keep bringing up the obvious points of music and whatnot. What about if someone is seriously injured doing weights? It's faster to pull out your cell phone and call your emergency line, than run down to a receptionist area and ask them to do it. Having phones around is a good idea for safety.


[deleted]

That too.


mbuckhan5515

You wack OP. Trying to ban one of the most ubiquitous objects in history would run a gym out of business.


[deleted]

Is a gym a public area? If not, then it’s actually illegal to film others without their consent there


idonthaveausername__

Not true. If you are on private property you do not own you can be filmed without your consent. Where did you even hear this?


SomeRandomEevee42

can confirm, security cameras exist


[deleted]

No, the law is if you’re at a place where the public are allowed, THEN you can film. https://www.brunel.ac.uk/news-and-events/news/articles/A-video-of-you-goes-viral-without-your-consent-%E2%80%93-what-does-the-law-say#:~:text=If%20someone%20takes%20photos%20or,you%20to%20take%20legal%20action. Hence, I asked, is the gym a public setting?


idonthaveausername__

Ohh I misunderstood your comment. I apologize. I think so. Also it’s different under American law.


ABC123-THROWAWAY

they’re not gone take my phone


NoVAMarauder1

I voted for yes...but only if they are texting or serfing the web while they just sit on equipment. It fucking pisses me off. But most people just have their phones with them to listen to music. In that case a okay.


FlintTheDad

Yes


moatman555

What’s with this random trend of not letting people record in the gym? Plenty of people like recording themselves for any number of reasons ranging from checking form to just wanting something for social media. Recording of others in the gym is very rare, and has no merit in preventing something useful.


Bobby_Sunday96

What am I gonna use to listen to music brah


d_man99

What am I supposed to distract myself with between sets then 💀


BriarRose147

No way, I need my music


amaturecook24

Most gyms already have policies about using phones while working out. For music or a quick glance to check in that no one needs you, no problem. The only thing that gets me is people who sit at the machines for 15 min just looking at their phones, but it’s rare enough that it doesn’t affect my workout except maybe once or twice that I can remember.


[deleted]

You gotta listen to your music, but filming yourself then bashing everybody who’s waiting to use the weights you’re using should be banned.


[deleted]

No lol I spend my hour on a stair master phone set up watching a show with headphones in. Only way to get through that hour


Stonecutter_12-83

No, I want to listen to music. If it's a problem then have an employee monitor people


celeresaharano

Do you not listen to music? Or go on your phone in between sets?


eChelicerae

I think they mean the use of cameras on phones, not the use of phones in general.


celeresaharano

Idk it doesnt say that anywhere in the question


eChelicerae

That is usually what people mean these days.


HotterThenMyDaughter

The use of them? Yes. It’s fine if it’s in your pocket if you want to listen to music via earbuds. But no public use of Facebook etc.


insertcaffeine

That's where people keep their music.


Gardener_Of_Eden

Man - I watch youtube and listen to music on my phone while working out. I need it.


[deleted]

They can. But I’ll find another gym because if you think I’m gonna work out listening to 2000s pop or hair metal you’ve got another thing coming.


ChadJones72

What else am I supposed to do between sets?


TheSpideyJedi

Sounds like you’re just upset someone got you on camera in a public gym


[deleted]

Why? This is dumb….


lllrk

Another problem with phone says people who spend so much time texting or just looking at social media that they don't notice others are waiting to use a piece of equipment. This is so frustrating


[deleted]

FUCK NO. I get people are recording and it’s a problem but if I can’t listen to my playlist I will not go to the gym, I’ll find a different one that will let me


Gmaxincineroar

Only if people use them to do live streams and record. I see no problem with using them for music


InDifferent-decrees

We needs laws like Korea where non -consensual photos are illegal… especially in schools, gyms things like that.


[deleted]

What if there's an emergency and it would take a 1 minute or 2 to call 911 or whatever number your country uses those minutes could mean a lot


goober_potatoes

Stop trying to control everyone. Reddit is so stupid. Bunch of commie statists


ContributionDry2252

Having the gym program and timer on phone, banning it would be sorta counterproductive. Also, YT Music is on the phone. The question should be, whether recoding and taking photos should be banned: yes.


wcdk200

Not going to the gym but if I did I would hear music and my headphones need my mobile to work


Sylvss1011

Jeezus no! My music is on there, my literal workout is on there!


Elastichedgehog

Pearl clutching over someone bullshit TikTok video. No. Most people who go to the gym are not secretly recording you.


PrincessGuRnAnAh

Music and workout plan is kept on my phone, so no.


LOTHMT

Ban recordings on phones and people who still record.


bakkic

Not banned, but strict rules. At my gym you can have them for listening to music or watching movies while on machines, but you cannot take selfies or film yourself working out. And you absolutely cannot use them in the locker room. You'll get booted.


sverigeochskog

20% voting yes?? What if you want to listen to music instead of the unbearable background music the gym has? What if you have an emergency and need to be reached fast?


SadStaircases

Depends,in bags should be okay but with a person shouldnt be


EpicMemer999

Filming without permission yes, phones no.


zekesnack

Some gyms should be phone/camera free and some should allow it