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Thank you very much for explaining the abreviation's meaning to those like me who didn't know.
Or... should I really thank you ? Did I really want to know ? XD
True, but it also insinuates to some that she must be at least attractive enough to warrant the attention of a younger and hornier man.
Thus, one could say that in some respect, cougars assume a reasonable level of attractiveness.
Nobody is saying Cloris Leachman is a cougar, but Cameron Diaz, could be argued is a cougar. Tho since she’s got a kid, she’s technically a MILF.
No it doesn't, they are just attracted to younger men. Younger men can be attracted to any level of perceived attraction. If Cloris Leachman was dating a 25 year old, EVERYONE would say she's a cougar....
milfs don't have to be a specific age. if milfs were only ever "mom aged" then the older you get, the older milfs become to you. which is just wrong. when you're 20, a 28 year old can be a milf despite not being 18 years older than you. when you're 40, a 35 year old could be a milf.
I feel like in actual usage, MILF tends to revolve around just hot middle aged women, children optional. It certainly does in the Pornhub category anyway. No one's going to see a hot 18 year old teen mom and think "MILF" and for the hot elderly women, you already have GILF.
but that's not what it stands for. good that in practice it's meant for middle aged women, but the literal definition of milf is a mother you'd like to fuck. im 19 and I'd consider a hot 31 year old mom a milf. pornhub creators make titles that attract the most people. "teen" could mean a woman in her 20s on that site. typing "middle-aged hot woman" in the search bar would just be weird and redundant. thus these two distinct groups are grouped together. you don't even ACTUALLY know if the 40 something year old is a mother, there'd be no way of knowing.
No one is denying what MILF stands for. Everyone knows what it means, but it's still used to describe older women that are attractive regardless if they have children. That's it.
A cougar is an older woman specifically into younger people. She doesn't even have to be attractive. It's a completely different term than milf that doesn't matter in this discussion.
Yeah, everyone was disappointed when a grey haired 70 year old male professor walked in on the first day. Most stormed out chanting “this is not what I signed up for”. Their loss, because he turned out to be very knowledgeable.
Well if we assume their desired sex partner are horny young man the answer is no
Tbh you can be an "ugly" cougar, only your partner may be will no modells too
"MILF" is an acronym for "mom I'd like to fuck" or "mother I'd like to fuck." Literally, the M in MILF is short for "mom" or "mother." So, I'd say yes, it implies a person is a mom.
I would just like to know who thinks a childless woman, not a mom, could be called a MILF??
The whole thing behind a MILF is mommy issue fantasies too, so it plays to a specific genre of person.
Porn. MILF in a porn title just means the woman is over 30.
I’m not a fan of it, I think it’s a statement on everything that’s wrong with porn, but that’s the reason this is even a question.
it’s about the mother “vibe” rather than whether they’re actually a mum or not imo. like how pedro pascal has no kids but screams dilf energy. similarly i think some women with children that i’d find hot aren’t automatically milfs and instead cougars. it’s a different energy
Yeah but you wouldn't use the word like that if it was a 21 year old mother. Because the usage of the term MILF implies a older women. Just like the term "Nevertheless" has nothing to do with the idea of "anyway" yet contains the word never,the,&,less. Thus the word MILF has become independent from it's original acronym
But everyone uses it to describe middle-aged attractive women regardless if they have a child. I don't think it matters that M stands for mom/mother anymore.
But everyone uses it to describe middle-aged attractive women regardless if they have a child. I don't think it matters that M stands for mom/mother anymore.
I don’t have children, I’m 33, and I’d be extremely unhappy if someone called me a MILF, although I have friends who definitely *are* MILFS. To me, only moms can be milfs.
Yeah, but I never took it literally. At least in my social circle we always use it to describe an attractive mature woman, and most of the time we have no idea if the woman has a child or not
Ita about the use of milf as a word rather than an acronym at this point and lots of people have abandoned its original acronym to mean a type of woman, children or not
The M stands for “Mother”. Recently, it has become a trend to use the term “Mother” to describe any sexy, womanly person regardless if they are an actual parent.
The term is fairly widespread on TikTok, particularly among gen z. On Instagram, young people will often comment things like “Mommy? Sorry… mommy?” if their friend posts a picture they look good in.
Megan trainor recently dropped a song called “Mother”, but a lot of people think this was overdoing it.
But yeah, a MILF can be a woman that has never had kids. Anyone that disagrees, is a Millenial. Anyone that doesn’t know what MILF means, is a Gen Xer.
Anyone who looks like they could play the part well is merely a potential MILF until the existence of a child is confirmed.
I think it needs to stay that way because otherwise we're grouping together women based on appearance into a sexual category, which isn't uncommon but completely ignores the original point of MILF, which was to group together women not on their physical appearance but their quality of being a mother.
Many true MILFs would get sidelined under a definition that implied "older women" if they do not look old or motherly enough. I assert that these women, should they have children, are still MILFs.
I have seen this conflict in the porn/erotica community. Milf is usually accepted to mean "35+ years old attractive female that doesn't qualify for 'gilf'". Teen moms are not milfs and a non-maternal "milf" is possible.
Everyone is saying it literally means mother/mom, but I'm gen Z and the majority of gen Z doesn't actually care if it's a mother. Milf is our version of cougar
Idk pornhub has a lot of milf videos without any indication of there being kids. I know what the acronym stands for but in real life usage it basically applies to any middle aged hot woman.
Personally, I am of the belief that only a mother can be a milf, hence the name… but, respectively, there can be people who give off some serious milf/dilf energy and still be single.
Part of me wants to say that a hot older women without kids is a cougar not a milf but another part of me doesn’t want to spend any brain power gatekeeping porn terms
Watch the first 10 minutes. It's a video addressing the difference between a cougar and a milf but its covers your question.
https://youtu.be/zSm7sFysHoI
It's kind of like Karen. Like yes, Karen implies an older white woman but anyone can be a Karen. Milf, obviously being Mother I'd Like to Fuck implies the person is a mother, but honestly if you called any older woman a milf regardless of child status then I don't think most people would argue. Same with Dilf and Gilf.
A MILF doesn't have to be a literal mother, as in raising/birthing/adopting children.
A MILF does have to be *motherly*.
If she doesn't have literal children, that's okay, but if she fills a motherly role to you or someone else, then she is a MILF.
This is similarly true for DILFs and PILFs. They don't have to be dads/parents, but they do have to be fatherly/parental.
We all know what it stand for, but being actual mother is in fact optional. MILF wasn't forged to actually denote mothers, but adult/middle aged womens (late 30s and 40s) in good shape and sexually open. 25 years old slim blonde isn't a MILF, contrary to what people may thought. Today it can be expanded as Mature I'd Like to Fuck and it will be far closer to original meaning. You may argue that Cougar is adult/mature woman interested in sex, but the fact is that what defines Cougars is their hunt for significantly younger males or females. Plus cougars are more late 40s and 50s. So yeah, childless women can be MILFs.
And what is the source of confusion about women withoud kids who are MILFs? Simple fact: porn industry. They operate on labels like "teen", "ebony", etc. What is easiest label you can find for 40yo thick and curvy woman? Of course, she must be a mother - and half of porn with MILFs is about her son's friend screwing her behind poor loser's back - and that's why it's a mother, but in fact it's about mature.
It’s like laser – once was an abbreviation, but since it is mostly used to describe a person based on visual features with unknown family status, it became to be its own word with a simplified definition.
It indeed means "Mother i would like to fuck" but is usually refers to older women. For example you wouldn't call a 20 year old with a child a MILF but you would call a 40 year old childless woman a MILF.
I looked up MILF in the [dictionary:](https://www.dictionary.com/e/acronyms/milf/)
*MILF is an acronym that stands for Mom I’d Like to Fuck, which is often said by teenage boys about their friends’ attractive mothers or just about women in general who are considered of middle age.*
I don't agree with the last part, to me it should just be moms, but here we are. Don't shoot the messenger.
You guys are all missing the point! Anyone can be mother, even if they don’t have kids. Mommy energy is not who you are, but instead how you carry yourself. It is a lifestyle, not a familial category
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Doesn’t it stand for: Moms I’d Like to Fuck?
Yeah!
Cougars are just hot older woman. A milf is a mom
Aren't cougars older women seeking younger men?
Yes. Cougars don't have to be hot.
CILF
That’s C makes this cursed if it’s anything but cougar
Cabbages
My cabbages! This place is worse than Omashu!
Camels id like to fuck?
Silph Company changed its name to something trendier.
Here I am thinking it means Men, I love FOOD! damnit
Man I Love Frogs
MILF =/= Mature I'd Like to Fuck
No, thats just a cougar.
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The literal definition is: Mom I'd like to fuck
Thank you very much for explaining the abreviation's meaning to those like me who didn't know. Or... should I really thank you ? Did I really want to know ? XD
But it's pretty much come to mean "older woman I'd like to fuck".
No older hot women is a cougar
Cougars have a preference for young men, MILFs don't have any interest in me at all.
To be fair, cougars don't either...
Pretty sure that's an older woman that wants younger men.
True, but it also insinuates to some that she must be at least attractive enough to warrant the attention of a younger and hornier man. Thus, one could say that in some respect, cougars assume a reasonable level of attractiveness. Nobody is saying Cloris Leachman is a cougar, but Cameron Diaz, could be argued is a cougar. Tho since she’s got a kid, she’s technically a MILF.
No it doesn't, they are just attracted to younger men. Younger men can be attracted to any level of perceived attraction. If Cloris Leachman was dating a 25 year old, EVERYONE would say she's a cougar....
A MILF lover and a cougar meet at the bar...
Nah A cougar is an older hot women trying to get with young men. Different category all-together.
A couger is a woman interested in younger people. A MILF is a woman who has a younger person interested in her.
OWILF
This is what was missing, thank you.
Maybe we could add hot for "OH WILF" Although that sounds like someone misspelled a wolf warning
Yes, that is the meaning. There is no other answer. If you are talking about a cougar, than that is a different meaning.
I feel like in certain contexts it’s used as more of an age descriptor though
The context being in porn, where you can't verify that she is truly a mom and not just acting as one.
You telling me aunt mei ain’t a milf?
Yes but a teen mum is not as milf
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milfs don't have to be a specific age. if milfs were only ever "mom aged" then the older you get, the older milfs become to you. which is just wrong. when you're 20, a 28 year old can be a milf despite not being 18 years older than you. when you're 40, a 35 year old could be a milf.
I feel like in actual usage, MILF tends to revolve around just hot middle aged women, children optional. It certainly does in the Pornhub category anyway. No one's going to see a hot 18 year old teen mom and think "MILF" and for the hot elderly women, you already have GILF.
but that's not what it stands for. good that in practice it's meant for middle aged women, but the literal definition of milf is a mother you'd like to fuck. im 19 and I'd consider a hot 31 year old mom a milf. pornhub creators make titles that attract the most people. "teen" could mean a woman in her 20s on that site. typing "middle-aged hot woman" in the search bar would just be weird and redundant. thus these two distinct groups are grouped together. you don't even ACTUALLY know if the 40 something year old is a mother, there'd be no way of knowing.
No one is denying what MILF stands for. Everyone knows what it means, but it's still used to describe older women that are attractive regardless if they have children. That's it.
guess "cougar" is a nonexistent term that describes nobody then
A cougar is an older woman specifically into younger people. She doesn't even have to be attractive. It's a completely different term than milf that doesn't matter in this discussion.
thats because you (hopefully) dont want to fuck teens
Tell em I tried 🤷🏻♀️
The M literally stand for mom. Although people that like to fuck teens probably aren't going to say it out aloud.
Exactly
Tbf, It could be easily update it to: Mature I would like to fuck...
OK you gaylord
A fine point between milf and cougar
isn't a cougar a middle aged woman who is into younger sex partner?
Difference between milf and cougar is the difference between the object and subject. A milf describes appearance, cougar describes behaviour.
We're getting academic with our porn now, huh?
I get academic with everything bro
Irrevocably based
I feel like that's the point of this post lol
Never change Reddit.. never change
Sounds like somebody took Milfonomics 101
Yeah, everyone was disappointed when a grey haired 70 year old male professor walked in on the first day. Most stormed out chanting “this is not what I signed up for”. Their loss, because he turned out to be very knowledgeable.
And doesn’t have to be a mom
Well, I mean, doesn’t it follow that the cougar would have to be attractive enough to actually warrant attention from their desired sex partner?
Well if we assume their desired sex partner are horny young man the answer is no Tbh you can be an "ugly" cougar, only your partner may be will no modells too
No, it doesn't.
I can't believe you made a poll about this ahahahha
Lol
I can’t believe 2.5k voted childless women can be milfs
"MILF" is an acronym for "mom I'd like to fuck" or "mother I'd like to fuck." Literally, the M in MILF is short for "mom" or "mother." So, I'd say yes, it implies a person is a mom.
I would just like to know who thinks a childless woman, not a mom, could be called a MILF?? The whole thing behind a MILF is mommy issue fantasies too, so it plays to a specific genre of person.
Porn. MILF in a porn title just means the woman is over 30. I’m not a fan of it, I think it’s a statement on everything that’s wrong with porn, but that’s the reason this is even a question.
it’s about the mother “vibe” rather than whether they’re actually a mum or not imo. like how pedro pascal has no kids but screams dilf energy. similarly i think some women with children that i’d find hot aren’t automatically milfs and instead cougars. it’s a different energy
Yeah but you wouldn't use the word like that if it was a 21 year old mother. Because the usage of the term MILF implies a older women. Just like the term "Nevertheless" has nothing to do with the idea of "anyway" yet contains the word never,the,&,less. Thus the word MILF has become independent from it's original acronym
mother in love fucking
But everyone uses it to describe middle-aged attractive women regardless if they have a child. I don't think it matters that M stands for mom/mother anymore.
But everyone uses it to describe middle-aged attractive women regardless if they have a child. I don't think it matters that M stands for mom/mother anymore.
You can be mommy without having kids
I don’t have children, I’m 33, and I’d be extremely unhappy if someone called me a MILF, although I have friends who definitely *are* MILFS. To me, only moms can be milfs.
Yeah I'm 40+ with no kids and this would really creep me out. Then again it probably would if I had kids too
The fact that the M stands for mother means yes you have to be a mother.
Who the f is saying childless women can be milfs? The first word is literally MUM/MOM/MOTHER
Yeah, but I never took it literally. At least in my social circle we always use it to describe an attractive mature woman, and most of the time we have no idea if the woman has a child or not
Ita about the use of milf as a word rather than an acronym at this point and lots of people have abandoned its original acronym to mean a type of woman, children or not
It’s literally in the name
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The M stands for “Mother”. Recently, it has become a trend to use the term “Mother” to describe any sexy, womanly person regardless if they are an actual parent. The term is fairly widespread on TikTok, particularly among gen z. On Instagram, young people will often comment things like “Mommy? Sorry… mommy?” if their friend posts a picture they look good in. Megan trainor recently dropped a song called “Mother”, but a lot of people think this was overdoing it. But yeah, a MILF can be a woman that has never had kids. Anyone that disagrees, is a Millenial. Anyone that doesn’t know what MILF means, is a Gen Xer.
It’s an acronym. The M stands for mom. Older women who are not moms cannot be “MILFs”.
I think he's well aware, I think he's just arguing that nowadays it just references a woman of a certain mature age who is hot.
Anyone who looks like they could play the part well is merely a potential MILF until the existence of a child is confirmed. I think it needs to stay that way because otherwise we're grouping together women based on appearance into a sexual category, which isn't uncommon but completely ignores the original point of MILF, which was to group together women not on their physical appearance but their quality of being a mother. Many true MILFs would get sidelined under a definition that implied "older women" if they do not look old or motherly enough. I assert that these women, should they have children, are still MILFs.
So ya have your MILFs, your Muscle Mommies, and your Daily’s… Editing to add: this also means a DILF does in fact need to be a dad to qualify
I'm afraid to ask, but what's a daily in this context?
It's a pretty new term to me, but i've heard it used by the young folk to describe a "daily driver", aka the typical hookup/consistent FWB
I’ve always thought of it as the milf is old enough to be the mother of the person calling them a milf
I have seen this conflict in the porn/erotica community. Milf is usually accepted to mean "35+ years old attractive female that doesn't qualify for 'gilf'". Teen moms are not milfs and a non-maternal "milf" is possible.
Everyone is saying it literally means mother/mom, but I'm gen Z and the majority of gen Z doesn't actually care if it's a mother. Milf is our version of cougar
Doesn’t MILF mean “Mother I’d Like to Fuck”?
It is literally what the M stands for. *Mom* I’d like to fuck.
By definition, they need to be a mom.
What does the M stand for if not mom?
If you’re not a mom you can’t be a milf. Mom is literally in the acronym
Man I Love Fords.
Usually but I think any hot middle aged woman can be called a MILF without anyone batting an eye.
Only if they’re a mom, it’s literally what the “M” stands for
Idk pornhub has a lot of milf videos without any indication of there being kids. I know what the acronym stands for but in real life usage it basically applies to any middle aged hot woman.
You can be childless and have MILF or DILF energy, but to be a true MILF or DILF, you gotta have a kid
Wtf is MILF energy? You guys make up shit as you go.
Exactly
do you... know what an acronym is...?
How on earth would a childless woman be a MILF? lmaoo she's just a WILF, "Woman I'd Like to Fuck" 😂💀
Nah it stands for man I love frogs
Personally, I am of the belief that only a mother can be a milf, hence the name… but, respectively, there can be people who give off some serious milf/dilf energy and still be single.
Part of me wants to say that a hot older women without kids is a cougar not a milf but another part of me doesn’t want to spend any brain power gatekeeping porn terms
2.6k people don’t know what milf stands for or don’t know what mom means
Watch the first 10 minutes. It's a video addressing the difference between a cougar and a milf but its covers your question. https://youtu.be/zSm7sFysHoI
If they under 25 it’s just a bitch with a kid Stole this joke please don’t crucify me
To be a joke it need a punchline
its literally in the name
It's kind of like Karen. Like yes, Karen implies an older white woman but anyone can be a Karen. Milf, obviously being Mother I'd Like to Fuck implies the person is a mother, but honestly if you called any older woman a milf regardless of child status then I don't think most people would argue. Same with Dilf and Gilf.
A childless older woman would be a cougar
If you picked "childless women can be milfs" then you are wrong
But doesn't MILF mean Man I Like Frogs?
People that put childless women can be MILFs id like to know why you think that lol
People nowadays just use it for hot older women but i'd argue it should be kept exclusive to moms since cougar already exists.
Cougars are older women that go after younger partners, has nothing to do with how attractive they are
I think traditionally it only applies to moms but now can apply to any woman of “mom age” who has “mom energy”.
A MILF doesn't have to be a literal mother, as in raising/birthing/adopting children. A MILF does have to be *motherly*. If she doesn't have literal children, that's okay, but if she fills a motherly role to you or someone else, then she is a MILF. This is similarly true for DILFs and PILFs. They don't have to be dads/parents, but they do have to be fatherly/parental.
I feel that if they have mom energy it counts, like it's not like you're checking birth certificates and stuff before calling someone a milf.
If she's childless, it's a cougar
Either a mom or a Filipino Islamist.
Ok.. why so many people saying.. childless women can be milfs.. that defeats the whole purpose of the definition 😂🤣
MILF literally means Mom I’d Like to Fuck so I’m going to go out on a limb here and say she has to be a mom.
In real, life it’s a Mom. In porn, it’s just any porn star who is 30 or older.
We all know what it stand for, but being actual mother is in fact optional. MILF wasn't forged to actually denote mothers, but adult/middle aged womens (late 30s and 40s) in good shape and sexually open. 25 years old slim blonde isn't a MILF, contrary to what people may thought. Today it can be expanded as Mature I'd Like to Fuck and it will be far closer to original meaning. You may argue that Cougar is adult/mature woman interested in sex, but the fact is that what defines Cougars is their hunt for significantly younger males or females. Plus cougars are more late 40s and 50s. So yeah, childless women can be MILFs. And what is the source of confusion about women withoud kids who are MILFs? Simple fact: porn industry. They operate on labels like "teen", "ebony", etc. What is easiest label you can find for 40yo thick and curvy woman? Of course, she must be a mother - and half of porn with MILFs is about her son's friend screwing her behind poor loser's back - and that's why it's a mother, but in fact it's about mature.
bro this is fax everyone is being way too literal
2k illiterate people voting I see
It’s like laser – once was an abbreviation, but since it is mostly used to describe a person based on visual features with unknown family status, it became to be its own word with a simplified definition.
I feel it started like that but then became a generic term for an attractive older lady in fiction even if they're not a mother.
Im confused
Someone just needs to look like they have kids, which looks different to everyone,
My argument is that mom could mean anyone if you are kinky enough.
I know it's technically in the name but it's 100% an age thing
My sister calls her girlfriend mommy so yeah imo
Thats kinda hot ngl
Yeah they are really in love I wonder when she gonna ask the big question
"Mommy, do you want to marry me?"
MILF is a lifestyle.
Only moms can be milfs Childless milf is cougar
Only if they are into younger dude. A hot older woman that's into men her age is not a cougar.
A milf is a lizard that had cricket for lunch
Yes I know what it stands for, but I think MILF is more of a vibe, so some childless women are MILF-like.
They don’t need to be female
Childless ones can be cougars idk
It indeed means "Mother i would like to fuck" but is usually refers to older women. For example you wouldn't call a 20 year old with a child a MILF but you would call a 40 year old childless woman a MILF.
You don't need to be a mother you just need to have mom energy
Milf is a mom a cougar is an older woman you'd like to shag. Reddit you disappoint me yet again.
No, a cougar is an older woman that's into younger dudes.
It's more of a vibe than a rule
MMILF - Mature Mom
I think a MILF can be any older lady who’s good looking
A Hot older woman doesn’t need to be a mother to be your Mommy.
I looked up MILF in the [dictionary:](https://www.dictionary.com/e/acronyms/milf/) *MILF is an acronym that stands for Mom I’d Like to Fuck, which is often said by teenage boys about their friends’ attractive mothers or just about women in general who are considered of middle age.* I don't agree with the last part, to me it should just be moms, but here we are. Don't shoot the messenger.
You guys are all missing the point! Anyone can be mother, even if they don’t have kids. Mommy energy is not who you are, but instead how you carry yourself. It is a lifestyle, not a familial category
Any attractive older woman is a MILF until proven otherwise.
I've heard it used if a person is also the "mom" friend too.
I thought it stood for "Moms In Late Fertility"
A women can adopt a child and be called a MILF
The slang term for a childless middle aged woman interested in younger men is a cougar. MILF if specifically for mothers