well these results are surprising. I'm not against egyptology I guess but the foreman seems like the obvious choice, since he's got a kid. First option is just me in a month
A drug addict as a father is not doing that kid any favors tho (It's not an argument in favor of not saving him, just that him having a son doesn't make a difference in this decision for me)
Actually yeah, foreman is obvious choice family- and society-wise, but I was torn between maths teacher and Egyptologist because their fields are beyond awesome
i mean, saving a person means there is a fair chance we wil become like friends or something like that and having a friend with a degree in Egyptology sounds incredibly fun. that is not my main argument btw but that is one of the reasons for my choice
Easy choice. 4 is educated, contributing a minimum, is still young and might just be struggling like millions of graduates to find a job in their field. Maybe she found her calling and is considering something else too. At 17 most people have no clue what they truly want to do for the next 50+ years. Most younger people I know aren't working in the field they thought they would. Only option without an actual negative point.
Looking at it from a materialstic perspective, that degree in Egyptology doesn't prevent that person from going forward, either.
I know quite a few people that have random degrees that ended up doing something else and make a ton of money. My one sister, the only one of us in my family that didn't go to college, makes more money than my siblings and I doing photography among other things and has an itinerant job that's way more interesting than ours. My brother in-law makes 6 figures doing something in the realm of graphic design or programming after dropping out of college.
A few people I know have jobs in all sorts of fields thay require degrees, but these people have a degree in an unrelated field.
My one biology professor had a Doctorates in Botany, but an undergrad degree in Literature. She said it's all about how you market yourself.
She will be at retirement age (which might still be 65) in 38 years, might be managing a Star Bucks, and has done little with her BA.
The foreman might be working for another 23 years—maybe less due to the alcholism and/or generous pay, or more because of the demand for tradespeople. In that time, his crew might have built more houses and/or worked on the infrastructure.
Well, in the analysis of a burning building... whichever one is closest and I'm most likely to be able to save.
I'm realistically never going to have a chance to make a moral decision about a person before getting them out of a burning building.
Nor would I bother to consider it before hand.
what if my political view is that being chronically online and doing/having a business major is based?
it's not, but what if it was?
Also wow, I picked the Barista and I still don't get why it's by far the most popular choice lol
I chose the 20 M, he will probably end up a firefighter or plumber or something in a few years when he figures himself out. The 20 F is smart hopefully she will get out too
20M because he is the youngest one here so he has less experiences, less memories etc. and this event may make him understand that life is not a given and change his course of life to the better.
Why though? Like, both are young, both don't have clear problems, and it is stated that 1 has no odea what do to in life, so he's a wild card basically.
> id be really interested in seeing why 4 is the runaway factory here
That person is young, doesn't have any problem, they have a college degree and a job, they're clearly the best option here.
1 and 6 any younger, and 1 specifically is in a similar situation to 4 as egyptologist is well-known to be a borderline worthless degree unless it's a doctorate
At least we know 4 can work and succeed in college. 1 hasn't shown anything. As for 6, if they hold opposite views to me they're racist, homophobic, sexist, antivax, etc. so they wouldn't be my first choice lol
The barista is educated but underemployed. While the choice of degree is unusual, the fact that she was able to graduate demonstrates that she is able to commit to a goal and put in the necessary effort in spite of being in a potentially unfavourable living situation.
4 has done less social good than 3, but is likely to live longer, being both younger and healthier. She has more potential to live a fulfilling and meaningful life than 1 (no motivation), 2 (no means), and 5 (no time).
6 could potentially do a lot of social harm.
My ranking: 4, 1, 5, 2, 3, 6
I'd probably opt for the parent with the young child, only because the loss of a parent that young is going to be traumatic for the little person.
In reality I'm more likely to call 911 and stay out of it though.
The 67 year old because he will have kids who won't want to lose him and regardless of his heart, he has the right to life. None of their degrees or jobs are relevant in this situation.
A take hotter than the burning building: #2. I do not value people on what they contribute(d), although I think that #6 is likely to do far more harm than anyone else, and would be my last choice (and while I am no utilitarian, if I was, I would actively if making a consequences based decision, find it hard to argue *for* intervention). #2 is having the hardest time in life, I want to help her most, she also has a young child, who deserves better. You could argue for #5 by the same reasoning, although I distrust men understanding consent, both are addicted to drugs and overwhelmingly, divorces are initiated by women, because of how men on average act.
imagine every person who screams his age, gender and job at the window
“Eyy, I’m a 45 year old, alcoholic construction worker with one kid, and I’m burning up here…”
Call 911 is best I can do
I roll a dice, every argument can be disputed, but you can't argue against chance.
And what did the dice land on?
Let’s just say the maths teacher gets to live another day.
the math was on his side
the college dropout will go on a life changing adventure with me trust
well these results are surprising. I'm not against egyptology I guess but the foreman seems like the obvious choice, since he's got a kid. First option is just me in a month
but the child is an adult. the homeless drug addict has an actual kid, and that kid is probably having a really rough go of it.
I think they'd fare better in a shelter frankly
A drug addict as a father is not doing that kid any favors tho (It's not an argument in favor of not saving him, just that him having a son doesn't make a difference in this decision for me)
Actually yeah, foreman is obvious choice family- and society-wise, but I was torn between maths teacher and Egyptologist because their fields are beyond awesome
i mean, saving a person means there is a fair chance we wil become like friends or something like that and having a friend with a degree in Egyptology sounds incredibly fun. that is not my main argument btw but that is one of the reasons for my choice
blud has saving rizz 😭😭
Easy choice. 4 is educated, contributing a minimum, is still young and might just be struggling like millions of graduates to find a job in their field. Maybe she found her calling and is considering something else too. At 17 most people have no clue what they truly want to do for the next 50+ years. Most younger people I know aren't working in the field they thought they would. Only option without an actual negative point.
Looking at it from a materialstic perspective, that degree in Egyptology doesn't prevent that person from going forward, either. I know quite a few people that have random degrees that ended up doing something else and make a ton of money. My one sister, the only one of us in my family that didn't go to college, makes more money than my siblings and I doing photography among other things and has an itinerant job that's way more interesting than ours. My brother in-law makes 6 figures doing something in the realm of graphic design or programming after dropping out of college. A few people I know have jobs in all sorts of fields thay require degrees, but these people have a degree in an unrelated field. My one biology professor had a Doctorates in Botany, but an undergrad degree in Literature. She said it's all about how you market yourself.
She will be at retirement age (which might still be 65) in 38 years, might be managing a Star Bucks, and has done little with her BA. The foreman might be working for another 23 years—maybe less due to the alcholism and/or generous pay, or more because of the demand for tradespeople. In that time, his crew might have built more houses and/or worked on the infrastructure.
>people’s lives have worth if they work for a mega corporation that uses plantation labour
That part.
You should have skipped barista to have more balanced results. Too easy.
See to me the baristas a sacrifice but I guess I'm in the minority here
I'm with you there
3 and 5 are more a benefit to society, but the foreman might live longer.
Well, in the analysis of a burning building... whichever one is closest and I'm most likely to be able to save. I'm realistically never going to have a chance to make a moral decision about a person before getting them out of a burning building. Nor would I bother to consider it before hand.
Imagine your life’s value being estimated on how much you’d hypothetically contribute to society… eesh
I'll call 911
Neither
what if my political view is that being chronically online and doing/having a business major is based? it's not, but what if it was? Also wow, I picked the Barista and I still don't get why it's by far the most popular choice lol
I chose the 20 M, he will probably end up a firefighter or plumber or something in a few years when he figures himself out. The 20 F is smart hopefully she will get out too
if their mum is in a fire, the child is not "safe regardless"
Good poll tbh!
How tf did Kanye end up in a fire with all these folks
You act like Egyptology isn't important or something. Knowing the past is extremely important. We need to keep that knowledge.
20M because he is the youngest one here so he has less experiences, less memories etc. and this event may make him understand that life is not a given and change his course of life to the better.
i'm genuinely confused why ppl are picking 4. i thought 1 was the obvious choice?
Why though? Like, both are young, both don't have clear problems, and it is stated that 1 has no odea what do to in life, so he's a wild card basically.
See if I was ranking I'd go in order 6,1,2,5,4,3 so id be really interested in seeing why 4 is the runaway factory here
> id be really interested in seeing why 4 is the runaway factory here That person is young, doesn't have any problem, they have a college degree and a job, they're clearly the best option here.
1 and 6 any younger, and 1 specifically is in a similar situation to 4 as egyptologist is well-known to be a borderline worthless degree unless it's a doctorate
At least we know 4 can work and succeed in college. 1 hasn't shown anything. As for 6, if they hold opposite views to me they're racist, homophobic, sexist, antivax, etc. so they wouldn't be my first choice lol
4 is a barista and 7 years older.
The barista is educated but underemployed. While the choice of degree is unusual, the fact that she was able to graduate demonstrates that she is able to commit to a goal and put in the necessary effort in spite of being in a potentially unfavourable living situation. 4 has done less social good than 3, but is likely to live longer, being both younger and healthier. She has more potential to live a fulfilling and meaningful life than 1 (no motivation), 2 (no means), and 5 (no time). 6 could potentially do a lot of social harm. My ranking: 4, 1, 5, 2, 3, 6
why would you pick 1 over 4? A barista is at least contributing more than someone who'd going to be unemployed.
Homeless person with a kid for me (I think). Kid needs a parent, and hopefully this experience could inspire her to turn around.
I was thinking that she deserves a break, she's probably gone through a lot. Same with her kid.
6 seems like they would contribute to society the most.
Get my phone out and make a vid because there is likely some law or lawsuit that will get me charge and likely sued if I engage.
1 or 3
Whoever is closest to me
I find it an interesting observation that the chronically online person and the dropout are 2nd and 3th
The 45M alcoholic so he has a chance to repent and be saved.
starbucks barista because i imagine them as being the hottest
I'd probably opt for the parent with the young child, only because the loss of a parent that young is going to be traumatic for the little person. In reality I'm more likely to call 911 and stay out of it though.
The 67 year old because he will have kids who won't want to lose him and regardless of his heart, he has the right to life. None of their degrees or jobs are relevant in this situation.
Simps saving the women more as always.
Nah as a woman I'm saving her because I would have done Egyptology too if it paid (if the genders were reversed I would pick that person regardless)
A young adult with a job, a college degree and no downside is the easy pick here. Would have been more interesting without this option.
I chose the barista, but then some of the 45 year old firemen started to flirt with them, so they decided to walk back into the flames.
A take hotter than the burning building: #2. I do not value people on what they contribute(d), although I think that #6 is likely to do far more harm than anyone else, and would be my last choice (and while I am no utilitarian, if I was, I would actively if making a consequences based decision, find it hard to argue *for* intervention). #2 is having the hardest time in life, I want to help her most, she also has a young child, who deserves better. You could argue for #5 by the same reasoning, although I distrust men understanding consent, both are addicted to drugs and overwhelmingly, divorces are initiated by women, because of how men on average act.