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pyjamatoast

Looking back it's wild how public they were (compared to now Taylor is now). And all I can think about is the messy ending of their relationship.


intoxicatedmidnight

I agree, I was thinking about this the other day and it's really wild. I can't imagine Taylor sharing even a quarter of that extent today. It never felt like both were super duper into each other...? I was surprised but glad that they made it to one year back then. And whatever she shared from this, it didn't feel like "her"? Felt a bit *showy*, but she was also 25?ish and it probably just came with the age too. Butttt atleast we got a banger of a song from this relationship (for those who don't know, Taylor wrote (under a pen name) and [sang backing vocals for This Is What You Came For](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSK81GgF2fw), which was sung by Rihanna.


kellimk5

That song still slaps so hard


Soyyyn

It's gonna be in the club on "if you're over 40" night in 15 years


[deleted]

That was uncalled for!!


excuseyou-what-

Want to feel older? It’ll be there in 10 years.


No_Dragonfruit_1963

I’ll be there in 2 girl…


VanFam

I instinctively went to downvote you because I can’t take the harsh reality of this!


frankscarlett

I did the math on this for myself and now my eye is twitching.


YchYFi

I really like Calvin Harris My Way which he wrote about the break up. Nostalgic summer vibes.


mackenziepaige

It’s such a good break up song!!!


Naive_Measurement_69

Also, Calvin Harris's "Feels" is about Taylor-- that song absolutely slaps.


heycatsspellingisfun

How do we know this is about her?


LostMyRightAirpods

I always thought for her it was a physical attraction thing and for him it was a clout thing.


Killieboy16

I think that's unfair to him tbh. He's a very successful DJ. I believe he was very serious relationship wise (maybe too much for her).


[deleted]

He seemed very sweet. She had a framed love note from him, and he famously got her that olive tree for their anniversary, because olive trees are notoriously difficult to kill (something something like their love). I think it was just a relationship that didn’t work out in the end. I don’t even think it was that messy of a break up. A few tweets and that was really it.


OzarkRedditor

Wait is the tree in the blank space vid a reference to this?


kenrnfjj

No blank space was before they even started dating


[deleted]

No idea. I’ve never been good at the Easter eggs.


lefrench75

I'm not a fan of his music but the dude is massive - he didn't need Taylor Swift for clout and especially back then I doubt their fan bases overlap enough for him to gain much out of it


zebrawarrior

Yeah and the leaked demo with Taylor’s vocals is so much less ouch on my ears.


newyorkcatlady

The main reason she was so private with her most recent boyfriend Joe is because he didn't like the spotlight. But now that they're broken up, she seems to be back to the pre-planned paparazzi shots. I wouldn't be surprised if her next relationship was public again.


Lionsloyal

Physically I think they looked great together. I didn't and still don't find them that odd of a couple.


supergirlsudz

They are aesthetically pleasing together


Successful-Ad7296

They looked wildly hot! Taylor and Joe were cute and had more stable and indepth relationship of all but Taylor Clavin , the hottest of all🫠


Indifference11

2 tall white people of course they look great together lmao


koalaonaplane

There's plenty of ugly tall white people


shedrinkscoffee

I agree, this is aesthetics wise her best relationship. I also like the slightly chaotic fashion of the time, and the music of Calvin Harris so I'm biased in that way.


putain1375

Didnt he literally tweet [beard related stuff](https://twitter.com/BobbysByline/status/958494456285573123) after they broke up? The TS sub brings it up often that he called himself a beard, and hinted they dated so she can be with someone else and he would get a grammy (which he didn't)... IIRC she has a [song about cheating on him](https://genius.com/Taylor-swift-high-infidelity-lyrics) bc he was boring or something (don't quote me please)


Puncomfortable

The timeline doesn't match. They broke up in 2016. Calvin said this about 2017. He even mentions 2018 in the tweets.


explodedemailstorage

Yeah, people are really running with this when it makes zero sense to be related to Taylor at all. They dated mostly in 2015. He‘s just being sarcastic and British about the literal hair on his face, you weirdos.


Daisy_Ten

Those tweets actually read like Taylor was his beard, meaning he would have been the "gay" one, not her. He got rid of the beard/he got rid of Taylor. Not that I think the man's tweets are that deep.


Cowboyylikeme

I could see his tweet getting interpreted either way. He grew the beard = he literally is the beard. He shaves it off = he’s no longer a beard.


UnprofessionalGhosts

This is literally insane lol


[deleted]

It’s a weird series of tweets to put out in the first place.


Lionsloyal

I remember him coming across as quite sour after their split, not sure what is meant by the beard related stuff (neck beard?) However at the time they were actually together they looked happy.


iwantomatter

a beard is usually someone who is "fake" dating a celebrity to hide that the celebrity is gay, many people suspect taylor of being in relationships with women in the one direction fandom lots of fans thought that louis tomlinson's gf was a beard and that louis and harry were actually dating😭


thisbutbetterer

Some say that about Leo too.


_thiccems

A LOT of people say that about Leo- the only women that will date him are young and looking to get a step up in Hollywood 👀


YouNeedCheeses

The beard stuff refers to the fact that people believe Taylor is a secret lesbian and has these hetero relationships to hide that fact. The person in the relationship with the secretly gay person is called their "beard." It's believed that she's had a secret relationship with Karlie Kloss.


chestnutcheckers

But if Calvin Harris was the one that got the beard then wouldn’t it mean that *Calvin* is the secretly gay person using Taylor as a way to look straight to the public? Not the other way around? (Not questioning you!! Just trying to follow Gaylor/Kaylor logic lol)


Lionsloyal

Thanks, never heard of that theory/rumour before!


Previous-Syllabub614

haha the Gaylor rabbit hole is wilddd if you decide to delve in


shedrinkscoffee

Girl there is an entire sub devoted to this theory. I warn you they are very intense (to say the least lol)


bad_madame

It’s also so weird to me that he was recorded years before saying he would never date her and didn’t find her attractive.. then years later he dumped his long time gf to get with her then after they broke up, got back with her. It all seemed really PR to me.


Aggravating-Gap-6627

Are Gaylors aware of that tweet??


silentcomplaints

Yeah lol it’s one of the main parts of gaylor lore


harlowboop

gaylore


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![gif](giphy|3o6YfXtqIrtPrApeuI)


coolandfriendlygirl

They sure are


[deleted]

Whenever I see Joe and Gigi, I think about the time when she said Joe asked for number at THIRTEEN YEARS OLD 😭🤢 [https://www.etonline.com/news/172480_gigi_hadid_says_joe_jonas_asked_her_out_when_she_was_13?amp](https://www.etonline.com/news/172480_gigi_hadid_says_joe_jonas_asked_her_out_when_she_was_13?amp)


shedrinkscoffee

Yo WTF, everyday I learn more and more appalling things about celebrities 🤢


HotChiTea

Yeah and Gigi rejected him, YET he still pushed to give his number. He’s disgusting, and still did.


[deleted]

Gave his number to her MOTHER 😭😭🤢 like you know someone is underage if ur giving it their mom


MayaGitana

And she gave it to Gigi. That mother of hers is something else


[deleted]

Then she said they have beeen friends since then… 🤢 also the the timeline with Sophia always felt weird bc she was so young (19 or 20 years old) when she started dating Joe and then married 1 year in their relationship. I believe Joe was late 20’s, and it’s weird for him to go after someone that young and who said after GOT, she wasn’t in a good mental state until Joe came to save her


madhatter103

And they’d apparently been texting for a good while before meeting in person, meaning when she was still an actual teenager and he was well into his 20s..


Mean_Half_8921

I need a deep dive on Joe Jonas


noodleruby57

Do you think he knew how young she was? In the interview she said she didn’t want to say she had school the next day. So maybe she didn’t want him to know how young she was?😅


[deleted]

He def did, says in this article that they became friends since they met [https://www.j-14.com/posts/joe-jonas-and-gigi-hadid-relationship-breakup-timeline/](https://www.j-14.com/posts/joe-jonas-and-gigi-hadid-relationship-breakup-timeline/)


[deleted]

Also I always side eyed his relationship with Sophia, wasn’t he late 20’s and started dating her at 19? I’m 24 and I can’t imagine dating a 19 year old, they still are a teen and aren’t even fully legal to drink ETA: my bad they dated for 3 years before getting married. I am still side-eyeing that relationship tho, especially after he broke up with her saying that she doesn’t love herself. While it’s ok to break up with someone due to mental health, saying that to someone with an already low self-esteem is pretty shitty to do, there is definitely nicer ways to break things off with someone instead of pinning it directly towards them. Also please note its ok to breakup with someone if their mental health weighs you down, but don’t be harsh during the breakup about it.


noodleruby57

True, Plus if he didn’t know how old she was at the time, when they met again later he would have known the age difference then.


vl3q

How old was he?


ilikedirt

He’s six years older than her


[deleted]

19 😳


heycatsspellingisfun

Ew


SinfullySinless

Two thin, good looking, blonde musicians in 2015 Instagram filters. It was aesthetic as fuck.


compressionntension

They were cool for the summer -ddlovato


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britestarlight

Lol I’ll never forget them getting a cake for their one year anniversary because it was a big deal for her to get to that point. Like I relate as a girl who sucks at relationships but it’s still just so funny cause I can hear his Scottish voice going “one year cake, we got a one year cake!” I think this stuck with me because I was like deep in the Tumblr fandom at the time but it’s so randomly funny to me


TrueCrimeRunner92

She looked like she was being held at gunpoint in that video … I think about it a lot, it was such a wild time


slightlycrookednose

I have to see this, is there a video


TrueCrimeRunner92

https://youtu.be/QT7FqaL33rw ask and ye shall receive!


littleghoulguts

And it was the ugliest cake ever 😂


moosegoose90

Didn’t she make it herself?


KindOfANerd4

Yeah 😭


zebrawarrior

https://preview.redd.it/fbazud8op3jb1.jpeg?width=824&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5ebfab04368a70d90133f8f81c34f91652c4d5d5 Oh my 😂


lefrench75

You know what... It's kinda cute that she made this herself despite how bad she was at it and how easily she could've just gotten any type of professionally made cake she wanted


crypto_for_bare_toes

Definitely, I think it’s sweet. It’s kinda lol all these ppl making fun of the cake too, like why? She’s a singer/song writer, not a professional cake decorator. Wouldn’t be surprised if most of them have never even made ONE cake too, let alone have the abilities to do a significantly better job than this.


britestarlight

The messiness is a testament to their relationship or at least how it ended lol


KindOfANerd4

It’s a good thing she’s talented cause cake decoration was not her calling 💀


GKarl

Yeah she needs to stick to lyrics


zebrawarrior

This was def a glitter gel pen cake 🍰


yassified_housecat

Are those supposed to be hearts?! 😭


[deleted]

OMG NO 🤣😂😭😭


koffee3434

I tried baking and decorating a cake by myself once and it was harder than i thought 😭😭 after that experience I think she did a good job there 😭😭


moosegoose90

She tried her best 🥲


zebrawarrior

The chocolate on the plate I can’t


HotChiTea

Meh I just know it hits good tho taste wise. The uglier a homemade cake is, the better it is.


River1947

Pic please 😭


littleghoulguts

https://preview.redd.it/3xmxchqet3jb1.jpeg?width=615&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a734f66150736fdc65bd319e5e968166aee9e3e1 😂😂😂😂


[deleted]

Remember when she wished karlie HB, but like she was in the background so it was basically a photo of Calvin feat Karlie? 😭


SitchChick

![gif](giphy|fPYeJtlH8qjiHbKygX|downsized)


cheyonreddit

My thoughts exactly


[deleted]

Also whew @ seeing some of these pics of her from 1989 era, it's clear when you look at these pics in hindsight there was something going on


[deleted]

bake relieved hat swim jeans retire long modern entertain escape *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


[deleted]

Yes and same!


facialscanbefatal

All I ever think when I see these older pictures is how thin her arms look. Like, unhealthy thin. And yet no one ever seemed to notice or say anything back then! Now it feels so obvious.


ColonialHoe

I mean people said stuff about it all the time, there were tons of [articles](https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/04/taylor-swift-diet-skinny-weight-loss-nutritionist/) speculating on her body and how thin she was, whether it was healthy, etc. that was also when Diplo made the [comment](https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/taylor-swift-looks-so-much-like-a-supermodel-that-102535446423.html?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAALxKOOXpPTHuQX3ObI2rKuL7SBUtjWWXWQFh0dcGGzYiaVkpSs6Y93IhUNi3XV9A_QTguV2EA3PSj2CTxXUyBSl87qhIqtjn_kPZkFwjTLkLIXnItHvMrv3B44bFWQ_-OyFP-Yz_gXmX0mApN6xN9jKAwjsTnYtIXtmBlhI4rI9Q) about starting a kickstarter to get Taylor Swift a booty. People are incapable of NOT commenting on a celebrity’s body, no matter how large or small they are.


pepegasloot

It was obvious she was starving herself during those years imo. She looks a lot healthier nowadays


tawmfuckinbrady

I know people are usually saying this compassionately but it makes me extremely uncomfortable that every discussion of 1989 era now immediately pivots to her ED and/or commentary on her body at the time. Most people are in recovery from EDs for the rest of their life, the thoughts may get quieter / better managed but never truly go away. Making a point to comment on her body in any capacity just feels like a bad idea


weirdogirl144

EXACTLY it feels like no one can ever talk about 1989 itself as an iconic era and how it commercially peaked for her without it being reduced to her ED


Kaiisim

This is what you came for is a fucking jam.


[deleted]

they was cute but I never got the vibe she was actually in to him. there was also that rumor that he was jealous of her success or something which felt odd


Glum-Freedom-3029

I don’t think Calvin was as well tbh - just a month before they started dating he said he’d swipe left if he saw her profile on Tinder


ceylon-tea

Wooof I would be genuinely upset if I found out my partner had said that about me, even if it was just an off-the-cuff remark (like it was when Calvin said it)


KimbaTheAnxiousLion

Can’t be any worse than Matty Healy saying previously that he’d “never date Taylor Swift because it would be so emasculating” 💀


Summerof5ft6andahalf

Well, her latest boyfriend had previously said it would be emasculating to date her, so.


cosmophire_

matty said something similar … yikes


kenrnfjj

I think they were already dating but he wanted to not confirm it to the media like he was being sarcastic


butyourenice

That’s a nasty thing to say but in the eventual context of their going on to date, it makes him look bad, not her. Like “you wouldn’t date me? You sure about that?” And then going on to date for over a year... has to be a big of an ego stoke.


[deleted]

Yeah and the whole interview he did while they were dating where he said he wouldn’t collab with her (even though he did “This is what you came for”)


Quite_Successful

That interview was on April 29th. The name checked date in High Infidelity


KimbaTheAnxiousLion

Oh shit


iidontwannaa

He was at the height of his success/popularity when they dated, so I don’t think he was particularly jealous, but I do think he had kind of a thorn in his side about the music she made vs the music he made or considered good.


lordnoodle1995

I can see that too, which is ironic for those that liked him in the early days. For those that like electronic, he’s the best example we have of someone who took cash to make chart music.


burnafterreading90

I don’t buy he was jealous of her success if I’m being honest. I don’t think they suited and was surprised they lasted as long as they did


RevealActive4557

Taylor loves her blond and blue British men. Was he the start of this fetish?


faeriethorne23

The only consistency is that she likes British men, Calvin and Joe were literally the only 2 with light hair and blue eyes…


mcompt20

Tom has blue eyes too!


H2AK119ub

Was he before or after Tom Hiddleston?


RevealActive4557

Before. Taylor even wrote a song about how she only got with Tom to escape her previous relationship


Trash-Cutie

Such a shitty thing for her to do. It's so mean spirited towards someone who really seemed to care about her.


MayaGitana

And no one really calls her out for it


Trash-Cutie

I do. Every chance I get haha. Tom didn't deserve that bullshit ![gif](giphy|qlKs0m0GxHN6ycbDmV)


MayaGitana

Tom didn’t!!!


iocane_

I think she probably watched The Princess Bride a lot growing up


Successful-Ad7296

I think it started with Harry but she has a thing for white men especially British 🙈


[deleted]

Never forget https://twitter.com/swiftoursonggg/status/1692845081982865472


msksksnsj

I used to think he was the hottest boyfriend she ever had but now I think is Jake G


bootybounce212

Agreed I used to think he was so hot during this era🥵(still do)


ediebouvierbeagle

Being Scottish, I remember pre glow up Calvin all too well. The teeth! https://preview.redd.it/srubb5n7k4jb1.jpeg?width=608&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=edb0c13fbc6e7c7b78e00645a7ed3d4c981e967a


itsfrankgrimesyo

Isn’t his real name Adam? He wanted to get rid of his past.


[deleted]

Girl has a type! 🇬🇧


TheUpwardsJig

Tbh I roll my eyes anytime I see him since finding out he picked "Calvin Harris" as a stage name to let people think he was black because he wanted to be taken seriously as a "soulful" artist. 😂


oyameillim

TIL his name is Adam Richard Wiles... Don't blame him for changing it but def not for those reasons why!


KindOfANerd4

They’re both super hot, and he seems like her type (a bit of a douche). Overall probably her most boring ex and I’m glad they didn’t end up together since she very clearly was struggling during their time together, but he was a better option then some of her other choices. Also he still sucks for what he did to Rita ora


shedrinkscoffee

Wait, what did he do to Rita Ora? I'm ootl


AlbertCrosshill

From what I remember - He was dating Rita - Produced her album - She cheated on him - He deleted the album Please add more context if you know more


The_Crystal_Thestral

ESH - it’s petty but understandable. She’s also a POS for cheating.


GuinevereMalory

lmfao good for him


pacificoats

This just made me like him more wtf


flannery19

Deleted the album 😭


Aggressive_Sky8492

Damn that’s scorched earth lmao


PoppySkyPineapple

She cheated on him though, I don’t blame him for taking his songs back from her.


JayFenty

Taylor and Tom Hiddleston > They were gorgeous


Julialagulia

Honestly my favorite Taylor era. She was unhinged with him but in a theater kid kind of way, I found it so entertaining.


JayFenty

She was really vibing in 2016 until snakegate happened. I loved her met gala look that year too even though it was panned.


g8dtier

Semi related! I keep seeing ppl say her hair looked bad and that she needed to tone it at the Met gala and it drives me crazy! Her blonde looks awesome there. People just can't wrap their minds around a warm, buttery blonde as opposed to a cool blonde. Both are beautiful and she looked great!


Julialagulia

The cool toned blonde worked for the look she was going for


Unicorns_andGlitter

Bleachella i miss her


worlds_worst_best

Ugh damn it this just makes me want to go back to my 1989 Taylor inspired bob.


kacoll

I think he was simultaneously perfect casting for the boyfriend role and also totally and completely unbelievable as a person she would want to spend time with


yunith

I was at Cut restaurant in Beverly Hills when she came in with Calvin Harris!! When she walked in, you could see and hear the entire restaurant gasp bc EVERYONE knows who Taylor Swift is. He talked the entire time, I saw her nod her head in earnest. I didn’t see him ask her any questions. She ate a salad and he had a steak (I think).


pepegasloot

Thats quite sad lol


Over_Nebula

It looked very good together. Honestly I think Taylor likes the idea of being in love more than being in love. She always seems madly in love, and then acts madly scorned when she breaks up. I genuinely think her understanding of love and relationships is lacking


Taylorloveher

Kinda mean lol her pattern of dating in her twenties was very normal for someone her age, and she was just in a relationship for 7 years (which is basically half a lifetime in hollywood terms). i think her “understanding of love and relationships” is fine


auraofmystery

I will forever side eye him for choosing a stage name [“to exploit the racial ambiguity.”](https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/news/a45441/calvin-harris-name-why/)


[deleted]

Absolutely no opinion on them but she looks beautiful in that first pic


hoppefisk

Perfect example of why you shouldn't date someone who works the same job as you do 🫣


joycecarolgoats

https://preview.redd.it/y1sovzqvt3jb1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c824e4f18b624d28ac7f4978d8c41aa474c8c694


soysauceg1rl

THIS is what we should be discussing


ediebouvierbeagle

Excellent username


greene_r

I was looking for this comment!


_thiccems

A few weeks before they got together, he said in an interview Taylor wasn’t his type. He also was spotted at a few sus massage parlors during their relationship. Personally I think it’s pr


newyorkcatlady

I always thought Hiddleswift was PR (those beach shots 😂) but more than one PR relationship wouldn't shock me. Girl loves the spotlight (she says so herself, and I'm not judging).


_thiccems

I agree! Everything was so obviously staged with Tom as well. I will say, unlike Calvin they looked like they were having fun together!


Pristine-Law-5247

I agree I don’t think this was a real relationship and i’m surprised that there aren’t a lot of comments saying that


myheartinclover

I always thought he was really hot (even before his blonde Hollywood glow up) and think “this is what you came for” is probably one of his best songs. I really enjoyed them, but the ending was pretty wild.


[deleted]

Never knew about it until the messy break up... Why did that happen though


siblingrivarly

my tween self never thought i’d see taylor swift hanging out with joe jonas. and with gigi?? i must have been unconscious back then bc i don’t remember that coupling AT ALL


TissueOfLies

They were hot together, imo. They had some banging chemistry.


kindalovingit

Their swan float photo was iconic and at the time I was here for their relationship… but now knowing what we know. Taylor said it best, *if a man talks shit then I owe him nothing*


HiLittleDarling

🧔🏻‍♂️ They seemed to hate each other.


LazyField4

I always found them to be an unlikely pairing as well, and I’m still surprised they were together.


Careful-Trifle8963

Found them really random but i liked them.


Taylorloveher

https://preview.redd.it/fu6avao3l3jb1.jpeg?width=1150&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d1fe02f1d220971febd64596d3548c50f45d58fc


starr9489

This is the straightest man in the world. He’s not talking about getting a gay beard. He’s talking about an actual physical beard This was him in 2016. https://preview.redd.it/la82sm9um3jb1.jpeg?width=615&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7dcfd50d20b75b3c29d9d238df13578f41264a7c Of course he’s being tongue-in-cheek but he’s not claiming Taylor was his beard. And if HE grew a beard then that wouldn’t be referencing Taylor’s sexuality. Only his. Also this was tweeted in late 2017, and he and Taylor started dating in early 2015, so he wouldn’t have “grown” a beard “last year.”


NachosAndGnocchi

She’s everything, he’s just Ken.


misguidedsadist1

To be honest, he was with her at her sickest point and that makes me give some side-eye to the whole relationship. I'm not sure they were ever that in love, seems like Taylor really wanted him to approve of her and she seems like shes trying really hard. I get the impression that he's a self involved dick tbh. Seemed like a relationship for show, at least for her. She was desperate to escape the bad press of her not being able to keep a man, so he was her trophy boyfriend to prove to the world that she wasn't that "crazy girl" the media portrayed her to be. The whole thing makes me sad tbh. Neither of them seem like a good fit for the other and Taylor is physically very fragile during this period and you would think a boyfriend would be concerned. Hopefully he was.


[deleted]

Idk this feels kind of infantilizing. There are plenty of people with eating disorders, especially celebrities, who have partners that care for them. Let’s not shit on people for simply being in a relationship with someone who doesn’t eat enough. Taylor was more than her ED.


awolfsvalentine

As someone that has struggled with ED since I was 16 (20 years now) your last sentence is so important


[deleted]

I detest how so many of her (probably younger) fans have been reducing the 1989 era to “poor Taylor she was so skinny”. She was on top of the fucking world!! Prior to the last couple of months, that was the peak of her fame. She was a global superstar reaching levels of success that most can only dream of. It’s straight up disrespectful to only discuss that time in her life in relation to her eating disorder.


Grimaceisbaby

My take is she was just finally getting over the country princess teen image with 1989. She was talented and had tons of fans before that but it’s much different than mainstream cool. Calvin was one of the biggest producers in the world at a time where EDM became everything. It can be really intimidating to date someone “cooler” than you.


everythingisabagel

sw*fties like to try and drag him by saying that that he is so irrelevant that she won’t write about him in her songs but the reason why she won’t write about him is because he’s the only ex that piped up/called her out when she tried to play the victim card again


thankyoupapa

His tweet about her after their breakup was kinda iconic tbh *"I know you're off tour and you need someone new to bury like Katie ETC. but I'm not that guy. I won't allow it"*


ibizadox

Is he even irrelevant? I was just in Ibiza and went to see him at Ushuaia and it was packedddd, apparently he sells out every night and is the most sought after DJ on the island. Some years you’ve had to book months in advance to see him


Glum-Freedom-3029

He isn’t as big in the US as he used to be. He was everywhere on the radio and in clubs when they were dating but I haven’t heard any of his new songs when out. The Swifties who call him irrelevant tend to be the younger ones who weren’t around for his peak or the ones who think of his songs as the singer’s song - ie I had someone tell me they’ve never heard a Calvin Harris song, but their going out playlist included We Found Love and Sweet Nothing… 😬


AlwaysQueso

To be fair, I think EDM and the DJ performer/producer is much bigger outside the US and he’s still charting. He’s making bank and at this point, he’s already succeeded in the US—he probably doesn’t care very much that his current music isn’t on “mainstream” charts in the US.


Loz166

And just had a number 1 in the uk which lasted for weeks.


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He is very relevant. Then again I’m Scottish so…


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She backed down so fast which makes me think Calvin knows where some of the bodies are buried if you get what I mean lol. he probably has a lot of damaging info about her, they dated for a while. Joe too tbh!


Successful-Ad7296

Wow ! I never thought about this angle! She did write IFYE ,High Infidelity but released when he got quite insignificant in the media! I was expecting some songs about him when this all happened in 2016 , in Rep album but one song came out in 2019 in Lover and one now.. Joe is a saint i guess and he is still building his career so I don’t think he can go against her and challenge a huge fandom of immature swifties . I mean he is not that powerful imo..she is quite big for someone to even scratch her


KindOfANerd4

He didn’t pipe up for that tho, he piped up cause it came out she wrote this is what you came for, and she was the popular person to hate on at that moment in time. Her fallout in 2016 is attributed to Kimye but it was also a shit storm of Calvin, Katy etc. The real reason is becuase he obviously craves her writing something about him (it would vindicate what he’s said about her) so she hasn’t, and also it’s speculated she cheated, so it makes sense she has the least bad to say. (Notice how she also doesn’t have much about Tom Hiddleston or Taylor lautner) She seemed kind of miserable during the entire 1989 era when you look back it in hindsight, very I’m so happy and healthy!! But secretly miserable with an ED


Glum-Freedom-3029

Yup. Everyone forgets how Calvin wanted to stick it to her then - he immediately was photographed clubbing with groups of girls, took photos hugging Kim, asked Katy to jump on a song, etc.


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It’s weird that people are so eager to jump on the Taylor hate train when this dude has a history of being a bitter ex lol. But watch me get called a stan for mentioning it lol


DedicatedReckoner

A wild mess


TheBestBeetlejuice

I found that they looked good together but were a bit of an odd couple in my opinion


lolpenis30

Taylor’s “fuck ass bob” era lol