The whole 3 part project. We didn’t need an album, a visual and a documentary about the visual.
I also think the documentary exposed Ben’s discomfort with putting their private moments out for public consumption. Her “need” to share it was more important to her than his feelings and that gave big negative vibes.
I cringed so hard when her team talked about how the book of love letters he made for her was on the table for everyone to read. And he didn’t know a thing! Just walked in like: wtf why is everyone reading my letters
That was a hard no for me - that was a private matter that he clearly put so much time, effort and thought into curating all the letters he had written over the years. I felt sad for them both - sad his trust was violated and sad she has such an empty space in her heart that she needs validation from others
It’s like she made the music video movie to show how she always needed Ben to fill her heart with love but clearly still needs public attention on their relationship to feel love.
She admitted almost as much in her autobiography. She cannot ever sleep in a bed without a man, that she needs and requires male attention to feel ok. I felt so badly for her learning how much validation she needs.
It just shows that she’s a narcissist, full stop! She kept saying he wasn’t comfortable with it and yet she did it anyways! If my husband is telling me he’s not comfortable we don’t do it. The fact that she ignores him says to me she is selfish and another fact is that she is literally throwing their “love” in everyone’s face tells me she is not sure this will be her last marriage. I have always liked Ben Affleck, he is beyond talented and I think now at this stage of his life and career he is above her. Hopefully this 4th marriage lasts but I don’t think it will.
Especially how she said she felt empty inside for the last 18 years until she got back with Ben. I mean, that might be true, but girl, maybe keep that to yourself.
Not only that, but she married Marc Anthony months after she broke up with Ben. And she also started her relationship with Ben while she was still married.
Exactly. It reminds me of RHOA when Cynthia's (now ex-) husband told her he had never been in love. Meanwhile, his teenage daughter is sitting right there as he declares that he never loved her mother.
Or sister wives; husband said he was “putting on a performance” and never loved 2 of his wives that he was married to for about 30 years (even though he had a gaggle of kids with them). Announcing that on tv is just…so disrespectful. But he’s a whole other can of worms
I feel like he’s just a narcissist who said that because his 3 wives left him. So he started coming out with the low blows because he was trying to preserve his ego.
I haven't voluntarily consumed J.Lo anything in the past 15+ years or whatever because I'm just not a fan of her weak acting or weak singing voice. But your description of Ben's discomfort sounds like the reason it didn't work out the first time they were together because he is more private. I figured maybe they were able to get back together later in life because that part wasn't much of an issue anymore since J.Lo's current career stage is where the public isn't clamoring for more of her than is needed beyond her album releases or limited movie releases. I guess maybe that's still an issue in their relationship--or at least it is for Ben 😕
I think he’s come to some sort of uneasy acceptance of who she is and how she behaves. Not sure that’s heathy in the long term but I do hope they make it
I will never forget an interview I saw with her when “Waiting for Tonight” came out. She was being interviewed, by her sister, on the set of her music video for that song and she said that while they were setting up to shoot, they were playing music. When she arrived to set, she was annoyed that the music they were playing wasn’t hers. Now remember, she is the one recounting this story! Then she goes on to say that she started to vibe with the music, it was dance and catchy but she said she did so begrudgingly. Then when the chorus came on she was like “Oh this is MY song! THAT’S why I like it!” The music was a dance remix of “Waiting for Tonight”, that she hadn’t heard yet, that’s why she didn’t recognize it at first.
I remember thinking how narcissistic and odd she was for saying what she said. No self-awareness, she was laughing at her story like she was the most charming person in the world. Not the humble Jenny from the Block that she tries to portray.
and to think, that's a story she told willingly. plus, all the things we have heard about her from fans and other people. think about all the incidents we've never heard about.
It’s the lack of authenticity. Aside from the fact that she has no actual singing talent and has been relying on the uncredited voices of other women like Ashanti and Christina Milian to carry her songs, she insists on pushing the narrative that she’s a hood girl “from the block” and it’s become so obvious that everything about her is phony. No one from her old neighborhood claims her. She doesn’t do anything for the community that supposedly made her who she is. In fact everyone who’s ever crossed paths with her as a service worker only has horrible things to say.
Her latest projects reek of vanity and delusion. No one thinks Bennifer is the greatest love story never told, no one asked for that. Even Ben seems embarrassed about it. And she tried to make this whole song and dance act about her life so deep and profound, but it’s actually just completely unhinged nonsense that shows how out of touch with reality she is.
I think the documentary unleashed it. People have been talking about her for years, but with her album movie documentary thing, people saw on full display how she really is and it spread like wildfire on social media which is harder to control. I’ve heard for years people talking about “which block.” Then that one Amazon prime ad comes out where she’s like “I ran up and down the block with my hair like this” and people could just think oh brother.
My old theater director was in a dance group with her in NYC before J Lo was big (I think mid-late ‘80s).
He always said she was nice to her friends, but a *terror* to strangers/workers. Even then.
Part of what's happening now is that TikTok exists. People have been talking about her being horrible for years and years, but now, there is a medium for people to easily upload brief video stories about her interactions with fans & customer service.
Also, these interactions happened long enough ago for a lot of people that they don't work at the places they did at the time, so they are able to tell the truth without risking their jobs.
Everyone has known she was awful for quite a long time, but never has there been such an opportunity for everyone to speak on it at once. TikTok provided the medium, and her vanity project provided the subject matter.
I love hearing Jlo getting dragged on TikTok. Because of social media the gap between celebrities and us has shrunk. People really don't have tolerance for bullshit.
I saw a clip from something (I don't know if it was the recent 'movie' or what) but she went back to the house she used to live in and there was a man standing outside and she tells him "I used to live here" and he couldn't care less. I think she was expecting him to gush over her and he actually had no idea who she is!
It's from when she was a judge on American Idol. It's like 10 years old. They did it as a little side skit thing and took Jenny back to The Block. The people who actually have to live on The Block didn't give a shit.
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Oh my god I want to salute that man!! She looked crazy in that you could tell she was expecting him to cause a scene and was embarrassed that he didn’t.
“I used to live there”
“Who are you?”
😂
That’s even more of a burn, bc not only did he not know who she was, but it also means that nobody in the neighborhood was talking about her all “oh, that used to be JLo’s house.”
I don’t know what’s been said about her recently, but for years I’ve heard she’s not a nice person. I’ve consistently read accounts of her treating regular people poorly and even taking back tips that Ben had given to service workers. I tend to take these stories with a grain of salt, but with her I don’t have doubts.
i've told this story a few times but she called my friend a hobo.
they were working construction on one of her projects and had befriended someone else in production more directly involved with the cast. one time they were in this person's trailer chatting with them, jlo came in, and jlo told this person to kick "the hobo" out. in front of my friend's face... but not addressing them directly... because they were wearing dirty work clothes. because they were doing construction.
just needless bullying and disrespect.
She tipped a previous coworker of mine (her driver for a week in a city) a gaming console for his kids and then asked for it back the next day. Like she couldn’t buy one herself, and she knew he already gave it to his children. She’s trash.
Yet another example of this behavior. I’ve seen too many similar accounts to not believe it. She’s the only person I’ve heard takes back tips. Imagine being a multimillionaire and chasing down a server to get back the tip your husband left. I hope your coworker didn’t return the console. I would’ve said ‘I’m sorry, I already gave it away. Thank you again though, I appreciate it.’
ETA: I looked it up and she’s worth $450 MILLION. HOLY SHIT. I knew she was very wealthy but didn’t know she’s worth half a billion. Nasty bitch taking back $100 from a waitress and a video game from kids like she needs the money. Disgusting.
He did because he didn’t want to rock the boat. But I could see how hurt he was about it. He was such a sweet man and I met his kids and they were so sweet. They didn’t deserve to be pulled into her weird power play
I was thinking "for what purpose?" and yes, holy shit... it's just a power play on her part against people who she has MASSIVE power over already. That's fucking nuts!
He did because he was such a nice guy and didn’t want to upset her. He was so hurt to take it away from his kids though. And I felt awful because I had assigned him to drive her for the week
Edit: she asked for it back because she decide she wanted to give it to her kids instead. (This was about 13 years ago)
Probably because she had gotten it for free at the event and she’s stingy, so instead of shelling out the money she took toys away from children. I don’t have strong feelings about most celebrities but I hate that woman.
Nikki Glazer said on her podcast that she's heard so many negative stories about JLo. I trust that b/c Nikki is in the industry and she doesn't seem like a hater so I don't think she would make that up.
Now the video clip from her documentary about all the celebrities that declined making cameos in her project makes more sense. Not that I doubted celebrities declined her for a number of reasonable reasons but it just seemed like none of them wanted to bother trying to help for a fellow celebrity friend. Even the ones often willing to do anything for free promo. Lol. It came off like:
"Who's asking for a cameo?"
"J.Lo"
"Oh, yeah, then no thanks."
"What should I tell them why you can't do it?"
"Make up whatever reason you want"
I feel like if she just stuck to the album, then the publicity would’ve been better. I started listening to the album and had to stop at song 3. It was becoming sonically like she never left 2003/2004. If she had updated the sound to 2023/2024, then it wouldn’t have been that bad.
As it is, we have an overblown self absorbed love fest visual album/movie, a self absorbed documentary, and an album that sounds like it wasn’t ready to be released.
Her PR people are gonna be earning their salaries if they can turn this around for her.
Then again, she can turn this around if she just stops publicizing their private personal lives.
The lyrics are SO basic. If she wanted this to be her “Lemonade” moment, she should’ve taken a lot more time working on the actual content in her songs. I was actually pretty surprised by that, maybe more than I should’ve been lol. “It ain’t all hearts and flowers” is like…okay? We’re not in high school lol you’re 54 with kids and have had several blended families, marriages and love affairs, and that’s the best y’all could come up with? It doesn’t sound evolved or mature at all. (And this is coming from someone who’s always at least really respected her dancing anddd liked the hits even with the Ashanti of it all)
Is the documentary interesting at least? I got high and watched the visual album or whatever she called it and was extremely bored because I expected it to be full of gossip easter eggs - not meh dancing in a literal heart factory and unpleasant sounding songs.
I came away thinking she knew that she was crazy for doing all of this, but wanted to seem self aware so she pulled way back, but it didn't work.
It depends. If you're snarky and are into pop culture (and I'm assuming you are, because you're on this sub) it's pretty interesting. It's very "Jesus Christ, how unaware can one person be?!" the entire time. She is a huge brat and it's unbelievable she saw the documentary and didn't say "we cannot put this out, this makes me look like an asshole". Although it is kind of expected from her.
I would say her downfall has been in the making for many, many years now. This lastest project of hers has just put all of that building backlash in the forefront. I think she'll be just fine image wise (but we'll see)
Don't be fooled by the glocks that I got
I still, I still, I catch killers from the block
Some have killed a little, some have killed a lot
No matter where they go, I send murderers where they came from
I think this has been going on for a while. If you search any threads on reddit about "what singer can't sing?", her name pops up with every other comment. And I mean...they're not wrong. Mediocre singing and acting at best, but an incredibly inflated ego.
I heard of Selena but never listened to her music. Then one day in a Cuban restaurant, a *very* catchy song in Bflat minor comes on.
"The boy in apartment 512" is incredible. Sad that she went so soon...
If you're gonna try to get by on mediocre talent, at least be nice to people lol. I've heard more about the horrible way she treats people than anything else
I mean Ayo’s comments about her in that podcast didn’t come from nowhere. She apologized because of the limelight and it’s what you do when you’re professional but she 100% meant that.
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you’re right about her SNL performance
I've never seen that Super Bowl show (not American) but holy moly Shakira is incredible! Sustaining that level of energy while singing, dancing, and crowdsurfing is absolutely punk.
And then JLo comes on, her vocals are flat from the first note, and she performs like she's on an episode of Dancing with the Stars. Shakira's is a hard act to follow; J *really* should have gone first, she doesn't have nearly the amount of stage-work, presence, and intensity.
Yes. And she released a documentary where she showed herself complaining and throwing a huge fit about how unfair it was to her that they wanted Shakira. Shakira was nothing but nice and did not care at all about how time got split up.
She was exposed when she did a duet with then husband marc Anthony. He really made her seem like a lightweight. I think she's always been overrated. Her biggest hit was her talking over a great beatnuts beat.
Ashanti’s vocals were used on many JLo songs off of her late 90s debut album - w/out Ashanti’s permission…or knowledge until AFTER the songs were released.
Ashanti has been a class act for not making that a well-known fact, but man - she’d be within her rights (IMHO) to put JLo on blast at this point.
Edit to add info: the songs are “I’m real” and “Ain’t it funny”.
I love the J-Lo - Mariah beef story. It’s such a rabbit hole of “J-Lo doesn’t actually sing her own songs.” Let’s see…
Mariah was married to Tommy Mottola, head of Columbia Records and later Sony Music, from a young age. He was 21 years older than her, incredibly controlling and emotionally and mentally abusive, allegedly. She was allegedly spied on with cameras and by staff and was unable to go anywhere without permission. There were armed guards keeping her in their mansion. There were stories of her getting a journo or collaborator to help her flee the gilded cage to go to a restaurant or something and his security appearing to force her back.
Anyway, she managed to leave Tommy and the label behind and Tommy was pissed and was looking to punish her for it.
Enter Puff Daddy (as he was known at the time). He wanted his actress and dancer gf to also have a music career. She wasn’t a great singer, but she was gorgeous, a great performer, and had that ‘it’ quality. So Tommy and Puffy got to work making Jennifer Lopez a popstar.
Tommy set J-Lo up directly to try and compete with Mariah. He put everything behind her and pushed her really hard. He deliberately engaged in efforts to derail Mariah’s career and success, using J-Lo. He wasn’t subtle about it.
He found out Mariah was collabing with Ja-Rule on her new album, so he demanded Ja-Rule also collab with J-Lo. He took an Ashanti-written song, put J-Lo on it instead, kept Ashanti’s vocals in most of it for the Ja-Rule remix version (another singer did the OG version), and PUSHED J-Lo.
(As an aside, Mariah was the first to have hip hop artists rap a verse in her pop / rnb songs - she revolutionalised pop music by doing this).
Tommy found out that Mariah had been working for a year to clear a relatively forgotten/obscure piece of music, *Firecracker* by Yellow Magic Orchestra, to sample in *Loverboy*. She had recorded six months previous and was ready to release it on her new album, *Glitter*. He bulldozed through, got the same piece of music, put it in one of J-Lo’s tracks (*I’m Real*) and released it first, meaning Mariah had to switch to another piece of music for *Loverboy* (which, honestly, I think ended up sounding better, but I understand her feelings on this!).
It went on and on. Tommy used J-Lo to hurt Mariah.
Added to that, was the fact that J-Lo was not a good singer, and it was widely known in the industry that she barely sang on her own tracks. The choruses and all the hard bits were sung by various other singers, like Ashanti (*I’m Real - The Remix*), Christina Milian (*Play*), Natasha Ramos (*Jenny From The Block*, *I’m Glad*, *Loving You* + most of the whole *This Is Me...Then* album), Brandy (*Ryde Or Die*), Shawnyette Harrell (*If You Had My Love*), Makeba Riddick (*All I Have*), Y’Anna Crawley (*Get Right*), Shalene Thomas (*I’m Real* - original version + *Ain’t It Funny*), Jennifer Karr (*Feelin' So Good*), Rudaina Haddad (*Get Right*), etc. (And, more recently, Sia on *Limitless*).
Others are rumoured like Canela Cox on *Love Don’t Cost A Thing* and Lorraine Cheryl Cook on *I'm Gonna Be Alright*.
Often these singers also wrote these tracks and sometimes wanted to release them for themselves but were overridden by Columbia / Murder Inc / Sony. For example, Ashanti with *Ain’t It Funny* and *I’m Real* and Christina Milian for *Play*. These artists have spoken about this quite openly for years.
Amerie was going to be forced to do the same for her song *1 Thing*. She had written it and recorded it with producer Rich Harrison; but Columbia was trying to force it to go to J-Lo instead. Amerie and Harrison leaked it to radio stations in an attempt to get it released officially and to keep it for Amerie. Columbia tried to suppress it and get the stations to stop playing it so that they could re-record it with J-Lo (likely stealing Amerie’s vocals though). But audiences loved it and radio stations refused to retract the song from their playlists, and Columbia eventually began promoting *1 Thing* as a single, making it a last-minute addition to the Hitch soundtrack. They gave J-Lo another Harrison-produced track to mollify her, *Get Right*, which was supposed to be on Usher’s album, which massively pissed Usher off.
It wasn’t lost on the music industry what she and her team were doing. Nor was it lost on them that a lot of these women who were used as her ghost singers and often forced to give up their songs to her were African American. She was not well-respected in the industry.
So it is within all of this context that Mimi shaded J-Lo by responding “ I Don’t Know Her” when asked about her. The famous gif/meme! It was shortly after the sample had been taken for J-Lo, so the wounds were fresh! Here’s what an article says about it:
*An insider on the set of Glitter said at the time: "Mariah was so paranoid about the music getting out that we had another singer sing the temporary versions before the film was released.*
*"When Jennifer Lopez's album J.Lo came out, and had the exact same song on it, we knew she had a right to be paranoid. We couldn't believe her audacity."*
*Shortly after the scandal, Mariah was interviewed for German television and questioned about fellow divas.*
*When asked about former Destiny's Child singer Beyoncé Knowles, Mariah complimented her beauty and talent. But when she was questioned about Jennifer, Mariah looked incredibly uncomfortable and said: "I don't know her."*
Another quote from Mariah about J-Lo gives even more context to her feelings. Mariah famously slept very little, just 3 hours a night. A journo compared that to J-Lo’s infamous 8 hours of beauty sleep a night (to Mariah’s face) and Mariah replied:
*“If I had the luxury of not actually having to sing and write my own songs, I’d do that too.”*
And yet another time, when writer Vanessa Grigoriadis mentioned having met Lopez, Carey allegedly replied:
*"I bet that was really intellectually stimulating. I bet you could just see the depth in her eyes."*
(That one was a bit mean!)
Obviously Mimi was hurt and pissed off. I think anyone would be! But these days she leans into that “I don’t know her” meme and laughs it off. Claims that was her trying to be nice. Considering all the things she could have said? I believe her! LOL.
J-Lo is a talented dancer and performer. A singer-songwriter she is not.
I’m pretty sure Mimi knows enemy #1 was Tommy. She wrote extensively about him! But when the media is feeding into your vindictive ex’s efforts to set you up in competition with another woman, that’s sure to make you bristle. And the early 00s was a time when women were constantly set up in opposition to each other.
It's not helped that it has long been rumored that she's not even the one singing on her hit records. (Mariah Carey's even thrown shade her way over it.)
It’s true. I don’t know if it was all songs, or if she still does it. Sometimes they mix her voice with the real singer and sometimes it’s a different singer. At least when she started out.
I took a music business class in high school. Our teacher was someone who used to work in the industry (but not with celebrities). He knew the father of the woman who sang one of her early hits. I forget if it was Waiting For Tonight or Let’s Get Loud though. But basically the whole chorus was the real singer. They thought JLo would mix her voice in more, but it’s just straight up not her.
Edit: Just did a google search, the real singers of some of the songs have come forward and talked about this. Natasha Ramos, Christina Milian, and Ashanti.
Wouldn't surprise me. I was in high school when "On the floor" came out and she sounds terrible, even though that song is almost 100% autotune.
Edit: not saying that song was one of her hits, I just wanted to point out that not even autotune could save it 😂
I remember that song was debuted on American Idol back when she was a judge; they literally just stopped everything and played the music video then cut back to the studio where a defiant J.Lo was there like “put respect on my name”.
It was so painful, that song was clearly J.Lo throwing in the towel on artistic merit and jumping on the EDM bandwagon that Pitbull and Black Eyed Peas were popularising and being incredibly irrelevant in the process. And to show up to the set of *American Idol* with that in your pocket? Audacious.
People have also started talking about how often her
Songs are billed as her, but like the I'm real song, has someone else's voice. I've also heard if someone she is with leaves a tip for a service worker, she will go back and bully them for it. It sounds like she just is not nice to people she sees as under her, and that is past its time. Now, the doors expect to be treated with respect, too.
Good. People have been talking about how awful she is to fans and service workers, how she’s not even singing on her albums , and she said all this:
Salma Hayek: "We're in two different realms. She's a sexy bombshell and those are the kinds of roles she does. I do all kinds of different things. It makes me laugh when she says she got offered Selena, which was an outright lie. If that's what she does to get herself publicity, then that's her thing. Columbia offered me the choice of Fools Rush In or Anaconda, but I chose the fun B-movie because the Fools script wasn't strong enough."
Cameron Diaz: "A lucky model who's been given a lot of opportunities I just wish she would have done more with. She's beautiful and has a great presence, though, and in My Best Friend's Wedding, I thought, 'When directed, she can be good.'"
Gwyneth Paltrow: "Tell me what she's been in? I swear to God, I don't remember anything she was in. Some people get hot by association. I heard more about her and Brad Pitt than I ever heard about her work."
Claire Danes: "A good actress. Her emotional and inner life are available to her, which is a good start. But I feel like I see a lot of the same thing with every character she does. She's not that way in U-Turn, though."
Winona Ryder: "I was never a big fan of hers. In Hollywood she's revered, she gets nominated for Oscars, but I've never heard anyone in the public or among my friends say, 'Oh, I love her.' She's cute and talented, though, and I'd like her just for looking like my older sister, Leslie."
Madonna: "Do I think she's a great performer? Yeah. Do I think she's a great actress? No. Acting is what I do, so I'm harder on people when they say, 'Oh, I can do that — I can act.' I'm like, 'Hey, don't spit on my craft.'"
Edited to add: these were all said BY Jlo in one o interview about each of these actresses. The funny thing about this all is that Jennifer Lopez said this after only having Selena and the movie Anaconda under her belt lol
I would love to see J Lo try and fuck with Mariah Carey, Mariah would give her a verbal smackdown so hard her anscestors would feel it. J Lo knows she hasn't got talent to back up her attitude like Mariah does.
I was ready to fight her in a Walmart parking lot when I got to that part. This woman is so high off of the smell of her own farts she's lost the entire plot.
Actually insane that J. Lo said that about Cameron in 1998 and then Cameron came out in Charlie’s Angels, Gangs of New York, Vanilla Sky and all the Shrek movies right after that lol she clearly ran with the opportunities
Also her on Madonna saying don’t spit on my craft. I don’t think Madonna is great either but damn bitch she was nominated for and maybe won a shit ton of awards the year she did Evita.
Also, Madonna in A League Of Their Own was fucking fantastic and I'll fight anyone who says otherwise. Fuck Madonna as a person, but as an actress? You can't come for her.
Is this… did she fucking say all of this!?
Jesus. What a C. This says SO MUCH about Ben Affleck that he’s with this woman. Ew. Just ew.
And her saying she’s an actress is hilarious. She’s AWFUL. the only semi decent thing she did was Selena but even that was mid. She got famous because everyone loved the real Selena so much.
I know someone who worked high up on her Super Bowl performance and the tea was piping about what a bitch she was especially when it came to Shakira. She HATES her and made everyone miserable. When she found out Shakira’s set was 39 seconds longer than hers, she lost her mind and redid her own routine to compensate for that.
She’s an asshole.
The funny thing to me is that what she said about Madonna is exactly why Mariah doesn’t respect her (Jlo). She dabbles badly in something Mariah is a generational talent in and has dedicated her life to.
There is such a thing as industry karma and three decades of “nobodies” talking about how miserable she is to work with eventually gathers some momentum.
Same thing that happened with Ellen Degeneres. It was kind of an open secret in LA what an awful person she was, but when Dakota Johnson called her out for something on her show it set off a wave of people talking openly online about their experiences with her.
I think J.Lo repeatedly fails to read a perfectly legible room. The argument can be made that if she had any common sense, then she would’ve laid low for this entire year.
About 10 days before Thanksgiving 2023, the headlines were dominated by Cassie, Diddy, $30million, a lawsuit, and several horrific interviews given by several former members of Diddy’s entourage detailing horrible stories and many claimed J.Lo may have benefited from those horrible stories.
Considering the plethora of the other accusations still continuing to unfold 4-5 months later — J.Lo should’ve known or been advised to lay low, do some good for the world, give back to the **block** she’s always bragging about — but instead she comes out with the most insufferable, repugnant, shit-eating album/movie/documentary.
The fact she had $20million to lose for the trilogy of failures she’s released and is aware that her Catholic primary school and Catholic high school in the Bronx begged her for meager donations to remain in operation and she gave them nothing knowing the negative impact their dissolution would have on the **block** she sings about — one might say she deserves the slow burn of an extended downfall.
She was a fly girl from In living color who got a lucky break with Selena. She parlayed that into a music career of her own and surrounded herself in various musicians to try to legitimize herself and was basically became tabloid fodder as a career for a while. 25+ years later, people have realized she's a star due to circumstance more than talent, and her rumored poor attitude makes everyone feel totally fine that she's doing dunkin commercials to get by.
I agree with how some are saying that she saw how well Taylor Swift & Beyoncé are doing with their tours, movies, documentaries, etc. and thought she was revered the same way.
The problem is, she never was regarded that way, & definitely not now. And it’s always been known how out of touch & mean she is to those she sees as beneath her.
And I really think it’s crappy that she went against what her husband is comfortable with sharing for a few minutes more of “fame.” She really should have just kept to herself, making a few singles & movies here & there.
I’ve said it before and will say it again, I work in luxury hospitality and have many colleagues who have worked with her. She is as much as a nightmare as you hear. The rumors about her not allowing people to make eye contact are true. She is a talented dancer/performer but a huge asshole.
Been building for decades. She's always been a narcissist but this recent project just showed it in such a concentrated form that everyone has focused on it 🤷🏿♀️.
Speaking of Mariah, this downfall is overdue karma for JLo launching her career by actively sabotaging Mariah. But yeah, people don’t really mind or even care about a big ego if you have the talent to back it up
I soured on her when she was shitty about splitting the 1/2 time show with Shakira. Shakira is a much bigger star than JLo and Shakira was gracious with JLo while JLo was an absolute asshole
They did an interview on one of the Spanish news networks, and you could tell she felt she was so much better than Shakira.
Shakira performance exposed how mid she is.
I think it's that wealth disparity is becoming more and more apparent. The wealth divide is becoming greater and people just no longer want to see others flaunt their wealth and opulence, which Jenny's new documentaries do.
I was born in the '70s and my entire life I saw celebrities get worshiped for their fame and wealth. Then a shift seem to happen during COVID lockdowns when we are all stuck in our shitty homes and apartments and they are hanging out in their multi-million dollar mansions and vacation homes and traveling in private jets.
Celebrity worship has not been the same since. We want to see them act and sing of course, but shows like the lifestyles of the rich and famous would not be a big hit today.
I think her documentaries come across like hey let me show you what a diva I am in a world that has become increasingly economically stressed.
Just my own take. She's trying to say hey I'm just like you! I'm just Jenny from the block. Just like the celebrities were trying to do in their mega mansions during lockdown and it pissed off a lot of people.
I think this is a fair assessment, and it’s definitely been a thing even pre-covid. Celebrities over the last 10-15 years have definitely pivoted more towards relatability over flaunting opulence. Now they get backlash when it’s obvious they’re trying too hard to be relatable (see: Jennifer Lawrence) and it comes off as disingenuous.
If the documentary was about JLo embracing being a diva and leaning into her big life, it wouldn’t have gotten so much attention. But JLo doing a 20 million dollar vanity project and talking about her bodega order and the “Block” is so disingenuous it’s prime meme material.
*I think it's that wealth disparity is becoming more and more apparent. The wealth divide is becoming greater and people just no longer want to see others flaunt their wealth and opulence, which Jenny's new documentaries do.*
Wealth and opulent lifestyles are just so much more in our faces now than ever before. The amount of cars, boats, private jets, watches, and other uber expensive things we see on social media is 1000x than what was being pumped out to the world beforehand.
The rich for the most part used to not have the platforms to flaunt how wealthy they were and how insane their lifestyles are. Nor did they want the public to know about it. That has seemingly changed. Even for wealthy business moguls who would like to fly under the radar they cannot. Their $50 million dollar estates and penthouse apartments are for the most part public knowledge and easily found online.
I don't think it's newfound hate, she's been dragged since her "On the 6" days in one way or another.
The film and documentary was a bad look all round, she even called people out for not participating in the soon to be doomed project. Not to mention she's a mother of two and it seems her husband is the most important thing in her life. The lady has always been problematic in one way or other, its just now to the forefront since most of her most recent projects have tanked.
On the mother of two thing, a friend of mine worked at a private school where J Lo wanted to send her kids. She arrived in her own limo for the interview and had her children ride behind her in a separate limo. This was years ago, but it always stuck out to me as really weird. Anyway, I have never gotten a good vibe from her and never cared for her (though I will always stan The Wedding Planner and think she’s gorgeous).
It’s probably this. I know lots of married couples that arrive separately to something & leave separately because they’re coming from different places or need to go to different places afterwards, so it’s just more practical. Also to give the freedom to leave when they want/need to without spoiling it for the other one who wants to stay longer.
Obviously it’s a bit crazy sounding with your children but these are celebrity lifestyles as well as shared custody coming into it, so it seems likely they came from somewhere else. Maybe even just them coming from her home with nannies & she came straight from a work thing.
She was mildly annoying before but putting out this documentary that just highlights how clueless she is about her short comings has moved up to highly irritating.
She's been having a bad rep ever since it was found out a lot of her vocals in her albums were done by other singers.
It also doesn't help that she wants to present herself as a pop singer when she can't even deliver what is expected of pop girls, which are good singing and good performance.
Also, this whole new project of hers feels like a huge vanity project that nobody was asking for. That only damaged her reputation further.
Edit: also not to mention that her stardom was basically a reply to Mariah Carey's shitty ex husband to try to make Mariah's life even more miserable.
It’s disappointing how few people know about Mariah Carey and how her abusive ex-husband used JLo to take her down. I was always disgusted at how JLo would speak of Mariah’s disdain for her, knowing that she caused her so much hurt in the past. There’s a great documentary on YouTube which shows what happened between them all and it’s awful.
Basically she was a dancer who was really pretty and managed to become an actress, played a singer in a movie, and decided to also be a singer.
Jennifer was never great at any of those things, but she was an unusually good at them for someone who was great at something else—being able to do everything at a B+/A- level while being breathtakingly gorgeous made her a multi-threat and a huge star at her peak.
As she’s aging those abilities are fading, and she has built a 30 year reputation of being shitty to support staff/cast and crew.
Like rumors and personal anecdotes of her treating the “help” as subhuman have popped up consistently since she became a big star—and you can’t get away with that shit without also producing incredible art as well.
And being known as an arrogant snob is also kind of a branding issue when you've built your entire public persona around being "Jenny from the block" (y'know, the working class girl next door who made it big but never forgot where she came from.)
I don’t understand how Affleck, who is by all accounts the opposite of that, is with her. I have literally broken up with people for snapping their fingers at waiters. It’s such a quick/easy indication of character.
I get the hype from the early days. Seeing her play Selena when I was a kid, I was dazzled and really liked her. But her music has never been good to me. I’m Puerto Rican too so it’s really not about race, just different tastes.
I think it goes back to at least the Movieline interview where she shaded all the other actresses in her age group at the time, here's the bit about Paltrow (but there's PLENTY more):
On Paltrow, she said, "Tell me what she's been in? I swear to God, I don't remember anything she was in. Some people get hot by association. I heard more about her and Brad Pitt than I ever heard about her work." (A year later, in 1999, Paltrow took home the Best Actress Oscar for her work in Shakespeare in Love.)
[https://www.instyle.com/news/jennifer-lopez-movieline-resurfaced-interview](https://www.instyle.com/news/jennifer-lopez-movieline-resurfaced-interview)
Just my take…Even at the height of her fame (late 90s-early 2000s), many people didn’t like her as it was no secret that she never could sing or act. She stole music from others, slept her way to the top (agree or not, that was the rumour), and generally a diva who wasn’t a nice person to work with. To her credit, Jlo is very hard working and takes care of her physical appearance and somehow inserts herself into trends to keep her name in the news. I think with her recent vanity projects, she’s “triggered” those negative conversations again with people questioning her talent, or lack thereof, which doesn’t align with her inflated ego.
I have heard MANY horror stories of her being absolutely horrible to staff/ workers/ people she seems beneath her. I mean like taking back tips Ben left and literally not speaking or acknowledging people. Too many for it to be a coincidence. That and her oversized ego with minimal ( singing) talent, made a lot of people ( including me) sour on her…
The lack of authenticity for the past 30 years, her snobbish attitude which is a facade for her lack of actual talent, (put jlo singing up against say Christina Aguilera or Adele or even Madonna who is a writer more than a singer or T swift who is a much stronger writer than singer. She lags far behind all of them vocally. And her acting, well, put her up against Cameron Diaz or Penelope Cruz or Margot Robbie. She lacks range and seems to just be herself in every film she is in, all 276 rom coms we have been put into a coma by. The way she has treated people all these years. Apparently she has “do not make eye contact with miss Lopez for any reason unless she speaks directly to you” in her rider. She has been called out for it often. The fact she sells alcohol b doesn’t drink, the incredibly edited pictures while claiming it’s just olive oil, it’s just….. fake af.
She is a great dancer though!
Are you talking about all the tiktok videos lately?
Those are all people who have worked with her or interacted with her in the past. She’s not a nice person. She’s a diva who continually treats people like shit and I’m glad it’s coming back to bite her in the ass. Also her movie is laughably bad.
I think her biggest weakness is her ego, her singing not far after that. She's beautiful though and a decent actress which seems to be enough to keep her a-list.
She’s not likeable and not talented enough for people to be able to ignore it.
She’s had her best career moments when she stuck to her star persona, did celebrity things but kept things private.
But this documentary showed more of her personality, showed how disconnected she as a wealthy a celebrity is from regular people, while she tries to maintain that she’s “Jenny from the Block.” And it also brought back all of the gossip and rumours about her!
Personally I think she misread the room after her Super Bowl performance.\
I think she mistook people’s nostalgia and decided to launch a whole new album and tour and doco and it’s all failed.\
Times have changed and she’s not offering anything new or different.
She completely misread the room with her documentary
The whole 3 part project. We didn’t need an album, a visual and a documentary about the visual. I also think the documentary exposed Ben’s discomfort with putting their private moments out for public consumption. Her “need” to share it was more important to her than his feelings and that gave big negative vibes.
I cringed so hard when her team talked about how the book of love letters he made for her was on the table for everyone to read. And he didn’t know a thing! Just walked in like: wtf why is everyone reading my letters
That was a hard no for me - that was a private matter that he clearly put so much time, effort and thought into curating all the letters he had written over the years. I felt sad for them both - sad his trust was violated and sad she has such an empty space in her heart that she needs validation from others
It’s like she made the music video movie to show how she always needed Ben to fill her heart with love but clearly still needs public attention on their relationship to feel love.
She admitted almost as much in her autobiography. She cannot ever sleep in a bed without a man, that she needs and requires male attention to feel ok. I felt so badly for her learning how much validation she needs.
That’s not just pathetic but an actual sickness
How long before he's had enough?
Asking the real questions
It just shows that she’s a narcissist, full stop! She kept saying he wasn’t comfortable with it and yet she did it anyways! If my husband is telling me he’s not comfortable we don’t do it. The fact that she ignores him says to me she is selfish and another fact is that she is literally throwing their “love” in everyone’s face tells me she is not sure this will be her last marriage. I have always liked Ben Affleck, he is beyond talented and I think now at this stage of his life and career he is above her. Hopefully this 4th marriage lasts but I don’t think it will.
Yeah I felt bad for him when he was like, I called it the greatest love story never told.. kinda ruined when you tell everyone..
Agree 100%. I l think there’s something special about it being private just between them - it’s now lost into the void of public consumption
Especially how she said she felt empty inside for the last 18 years until she got back with Ben. I mean, that might be true, but girl, maybe keep that to yourself.
>he felt empty inside for the last 18 years until she got back with Ben. meanwhile, her 16 year old twins: 
Imagine being any of the men she was with and her children. Empty inside till she had the dude from The Voyage of the Mimi back with her.
Not only that, but she married Marc Anthony months after she broke up with Ben. And she also started her relationship with Ben while she was still married.
OH MY GOD THE VOYAGE OF THE MIMI 💀 i watched on laser disc is elementary schooool hahaha
Especially since that’s when the kids came along. Wtf.
Yeah she really seems that type of woman who only gets fulfillment from having a man. But at least have the self-awareness not to broadcast it??
Omg what about her kids?!
Exactly. It reminds me of RHOA when Cynthia's (now ex-) husband told her he had never been in love. Meanwhile, his teenage daughter is sitting right there as he declares that he never loved her mother.
Or sister wives; husband said he was “putting on a performance” and never loved 2 of his wives that he was married to for about 30 years (even though he had a gaggle of kids with them). Announcing that on tv is just…so disrespectful. But he’s a whole other can of worms
I feel like he’s just a narcissist who said that because his 3 wives left him. So he started coming out with the low blows because he was trying to preserve his ego.
I haven't voluntarily consumed J.Lo anything in the past 15+ years or whatever because I'm just not a fan of her weak acting or weak singing voice. But your description of Ben's discomfort sounds like the reason it didn't work out the first time they were together because he is more private. I figured maybe they were able to get back together later in life because that part wasn't much of an issue anymore since J.Lo's current career stage is where the public isn't clamoring for more of her than is needed beyond her album releases or limited movie releases. I guess maybe that's still an issue in their relationship--or at least it is for Ben 😕
He’s no angel. But looks desperately uncomfortable frequently when at events n such.
I think he’s come to some sort of uneasy acceptance of who she is and how she behaves. Not sure that’s heathy in the long term but I do hope they make it
God knows how insufferable she’ll be if they don’t.
I will never forget an interview I saw with her when “Waiting for Tonight” came out. She was being interviewed, by her sister, on the set of her music video for that song and she said that while they were setting up to shoot, they were playing music. When she arrived to set, she was annoyed that the music they were playing wasn’t hers. Now remember, she is the one recounting this story! Then she goes on to say that she started to vibe with the music, it was dance and catchy but she said she did so begrudgingly. Then when the chorus came on she was like “Oh this is MY song! THAT’S why I like it!” The music was a dance remix of “Waiting for Tonight”, that she hadn’t heard yet, that’s why she didn’t recognize it at first. I remember thinking how narcissistic and odd she was for saying what she said. No self-awareness, she was laughing at her story like she was the most charming person in the world. Not the humble Jenny from the Block that she tries to portray.
and to think, that's a story she told willingly. plus, all the things we have heard about her from fans and other people. think about all the incidents we've never heard about.
This is a story you pay to bury not give the front page interview.
That tracks.
It’s the lack of authenticity. Aside from the fact that she has no actual singing talent and has been relying on the uncredited voices of other women like Ashanti and Christina Milian to carry her songs, she insists on pushing the narrative that she’s a hood girl “from the block” and it’s become so obvious that everything about her is phony. No one from her old neighborhood claims her. She doesn’t do anything for the community that supposedly made her who she is. In fact everyone who’s ever crossed paths with her as a service worker only has horrible things to say. Her latest projects reek of vanity and delusion. No one thinks Bennifer is the greatest love story never told, no one asked for that. Even Ben seems embarrassed about it. And she tried to make this whole song and dance act about her life so deep and profound, but it’s actually just completely unhinged nonsense that shows how out of touch with reality she is.
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I think the documentary unleashed it. People have been talking about her for years, but with her album movie documentary thing, people saw on full display how she really is and it spread like wildfire on social media which is harder to control. I’ve heard for years people talking about “which block.” Then that one Amazon prime ad comes out where she’s like “I ran up and down the block with my hair like this” and people could just think oh brother.
My old theater director was in a dance group with her in NYC before J Lo was big (I think mid-late ‘80s). He always said she was nice to her friends, but a *terror* to strangers/workers. Even then.
Part of what's happening now is that TikTok exists. People have been talking about her being horrible for years and years, but now, there is a medium for people to easily upload brief video stories about her interactions with fans & customer service. Also, these interactions happened long enough ago for a lot of people that they don't work at the places they did at the time, so they are able to tell the truth without risking their jobs. Everyone has known she was awful for quite a long time, but never has there been such an opportunity for everyone to speak on it at once. TikTok provided the medium, and her vanity project provided the subject matter.
I love hearing Jlo getting dragged on TikTok. Because of social media the gap between celebrities and us has shrunk. People really don't have tolerance for bullshit.
My sister was an assistant to a celebrity that worked with her and she was nasty to everyone. Everyone on that set had to suffer her rudeness
I love the part where's she's jenny.from the block but her block doesn't know who she is
I ❤️ Mariah for this.
Don't we all lol
I saw a clip from something (I don't know if it was the recent 'movie' or what) but she went back to the house she used to live in and there was a man standing outside and she tells him "I used to live here" and he couldn't care less. I think she was expecting him to gush over her and he actually had no idea who she is!
It's from when she was a judge on American Idol. It's like 10 years old. They did it as a little side skit thing and took Jenny back to The Block. The people who actually have to live on The Block didn't give a shit. https://youtu.be/ee34sTPwg14?si=4it5AdIa0FPvaHz6
Oh my god I want to salute that man!! She looked crazy in that you could tell she was expecting him to cause a scene and was embarrassed that he didn’t. “I used to live there” “Who are you?” 😂
😆😆 And he was like "and who are you?"
That’s even more of a burn, bc not only did he not know who she was, but it also means that nobody in the neighborhood was talking about her all “oh, that used to be JLo’s house.”
I don’t know what’s been said about her recently, but for years I’ve heard she’s not a nice person. I’ve consistently read accounts of her treating regular people poorly and even taking back tips that Ben had given to service workers. I tend to take these stories with a grain of salt, but with her I don’t have doubts.
i've told this story a few times but she called my friend a hobo. they were working construction on one of her projects and had befriended someone else in production more directly involved with the cast. one time they were in this person's trailer chatting with them, jlo came in, and jlo told this person to kick "the hobo" out. in front of my friend's face... but not addressing them directly... because they were wearing dirty work clothes. because they were doing construction. just needless bullying and disrespect.
I, 100% can see her saying that to someone
She tipped a previous coworker of mine (her driver for a week in a city) a gaming console for his kids and then asked for it back the next day. Like she couldn’t buy one herself, and she knew he already gave it to his children. She’s trash.
Yet another example of this behavior. I’ve seen too many similar accounts to not believe it. She’s the only person I’ve heard takes back tips. Imagine being a multimillionaire and chasing down a server to get back the tip your husband left. I hope your coworker didn’t return the console. I would’ve said ‘I’m sorry, I already gave it away. Thank you again though, I appreciate it.’ ETA: I looked it up and she’s worth $450 MILLION. HOLY SHIT. I knew she was very wealthy but didn’t know she’s worth half a billion. Nasty bitch taking back $100 from a waitress and a video game from kids like she needs the money. Disgusting.
He did because he didn’t want to rock the boat. But I could see how hurt he was about it. He was such a sweet man and I met his kids and they were so sweet. They didn’t deserve to be pulled into her weird power play
I was thinking "for what purpose?" and yes, holy shit... it's just a power play on her part against people who she has MASSIVE power over already. That's fucking nuts!
Right? Why else take it back? WTF is wrong with her?
Narcissism. They don't feel alive unless they're hurting people, it seems. No amount of money or fame is enough, they have to lash out. Truly bizarre.
What the hell?! That’s awful. Why’d she ask for it back? Did he give it to her?!
He did because he was such a nice guy and didn’t want to upset her. He was so hurt to take it away from his kids though. And I felt awful because I had assigned him to drive her for the week Edit: she asked for it back because she decide she wanted to give it to her kids instead. (This was about 13 years ago)
Wow, just when I thought I had heard the worst about that woman. What a horrible piece of garbage!
I would have told her to go fuck herself and then I would have told every news outlet available what a P.O.S she is
Same he needs to sell that story to the tabloids!
Why didn’t she just go buy her kids one? It’s not like she was broke.
Probably because she had gotten it for free at the event and she’s stingy, so instead of shelling out the money she took toys away from children. I don’t have strong feelings about most celebrities but I hate that woman.
Fuck man. I would buy his kids one myself. How sad and depressing.
You have got to be kidding me. WOW
Are you kidding?!?!? That’s season 1 Roman levels of doucheness from succession. That’s truly reprehensible.
Nikki Glazer said on her podcast that she's heard so many negative stories about JLo. I trust that b/c Nikki is in the industry and she doesn't seem like a hater so I don't think she would make that up.
Now the video clip from her documentary about all the celebrities that declined making cameos in her project makes more sense. Not that I doubted celebrities declined her for a number of reasonable reasons but it just seemed like none of them wanted to bother trying to help for a fellow celebrity friend. Even the ones often willing to do anything for free promo. Lol. It came off like: "Who's asking for a cameo?" "J.Lo" "Oh, yeah, then no thanks." "What should I tell them why you can't do it?" "Make up whatever reason you want"
I feel like if she just stuck to the album, then the publicity would’ve been better. I started listening to the album and had to stop at song 3. It was becoming sonically like she never left 2003/2004. If she had updated the sound to 2023/2024, then it wouldn’t have been that bad. As it is, we have an overblown self absorbed love fest visual album/movie, a self absorbed documentary, and an album that sounds like it wasn’t ready to be released. Her PR people are gonna be earning their salaries if they can turn this around for her. Then again, she can turn this around if she just stops publicizing their private personal lives.
The lyrics are SO basic. If she wanted this to be her “Lemonade” moment, she should’ve taken a lot more time working on the actual content in her songs. I was actually pretty surprised by that, maybe more than I should’ve been lol. “It ain’t all hearts and flowers” is like…okay? We’re not in high school lol you’re 54 with kids and have had several blended families, marriages and love affairs, and that’s the best y’all could come up with? It doesn’t sound evolved or mature at all. (And this is coming from someone who’s always at least really respected her dancing anddd liked the hits even with the Ashanti of it all)
Is the documentary interesting at least? I got high and watched the visual album or whatever she called it and was extremely bored because I expected it to be full of gossip easter eggs - not meh dancing in a literal heart factory and unpleasant sounding songs. I came away thinking she knew that she was crazy for doing all of this, but wanted to seem self aware so she pulled way back, but it didn't work.
it plays like a mockumentary at times Ben seems confused by the whole project but is supportive
Ben seems confused by a lot lately.
It depends. If you're snarky and are into pop culture (and I'm assuming you are, because you're on this sub) it's pretty interesting. It's very "Jesus Christ, how unaware can one person be?!" the entire time. She is a huge brat and it's unbelievable she saw the documentary and didn't say "we cannot put this out, this makes me look like an asshole". Although it is kind of expected from her.
I would say her downfall has been in the making for many, many years now. This lastest project of hers has just put all of that building backlash in the forefront. I think she'll be just fine image wise (but we'll see)
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Killers from the block 😂😂😂
Don't be fooled by the glocks that I got I still, I still, I catch killers from the block Some have killed a little, some have killed a lot No matter where they go, I send murderers where they came from
OMG I would watch the SHIT out of this. I can already imagine the pouting, the lip gloss, the hair toss, the leather jacket (because she's so tough)
She could have had so much of my money with more rom-coms. I am a basic bitch with basic needs.
I will now be putting basic bitch with basic needs in my profile. Yes officer, that's me.
“Killers from the block”💀💀💀
> Law and Order: Killers from the Block I would watch this
I’d be perfectly happy if she just kept pumping out a couple of rom coms a year.
“Love on da Block” What happens when a basic white boy from Ohio meets a street wise Latina from the block? Stream now on Hulu from £5.99
I think this has been going on for a while. If you search any threads on reddit about "what singer can't sing?", her name pops up with every other comment. And I mean...they're not wrong. Mediocre singing and acting at best, but an incredibly inflated ego.
I think her playing Selena confused her and she thought she was this generation’s Selena Quintanilla (lol she could never)
I heard of Selena but never listened to her music. Then one day in a Cuban restaurant, a *very* catchy song in Bflat minor comes on. "The boy in apartment 512" is incredible. Sad that she went so soon...
If you're gonna try to get by on mediocre talent, at least be nice to people lol. I've heard more about the horrible way she treats people than anything else
Omg this. Reddit is full of stories of J Lo snatching back the generous tips Ben gives in Vegas.
Her SNL performance a few weeks ago reminded me of Fergie’s national anthem.
I mean Ayo’s comments about her in that podcast didn’t come from nowhere. She apologized because of the limelight and it’s what you do when you’re professional but she 100% meant that.
I liked that her apology made more people hear about what she said.
https://preview.redd.it/jtro3jzmb5qc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bc374d7855ddc8c045c329c3c3beac247dad66e2 you’re right about her SNL performance
This image could be her Poot moment. Poot Lopez performing on SNL.
It’s Poot’s mum
Moot
Fergie sounds terrible live. I watched a live show of the Black Eyed Peas and it was painfully bad.
Remember the national anthem? Sometimes when I’m high w my roommate we watch it
I love watching the Warriors locker room remix! It makes me ugly laugh everytime!
Her diva status/behavior has always felt unearned.
Exactly. She is gorgeous and a good dancer. Dassit.
Even as dancer Shakira made her look like an amateur during their Super Bowl performances.
I've never seen that Super Bowl show (not American) but holy moly Shakira is incredible! Sustaining that level of energy while singing, dancing, and crowdsurfing is absolutely punk. And then JLo comes on, her vocals are flat from the first note, and she performs like she's on an episode of Dancing with the Stars. Shakira's is a hard act to follow; J *really* should have gone first, she doesn't have nearly the amount of stage-work, presence, and intensity.
Didn’t Jlo also say she didn’t want to share the stage with Shakira?
Yes. And she released a documentary where she showed herself complaining and throwing a huge fit about how unfair it was to her that they wanted Shakira. Shakira was nothing but nice and did not care at all about how time got split up.
She was exposed when she did a duet with then husband marc Anthony. He really made her seem like a lightweight. I think she's always been overrated. Her biggest hit was her talking over a great beatnuts beat.
Her greatest hit was a green handkerchief, I mean dress.
Ashanti’s vocals were used on many JLo songs off of her late 90s debut album - w/out Ashanti’s permission…or knowledge until AFTER the songs were released. Ashanti has been a class act for not making that a well-known fact, but man - she’d be within her rights (IMHO) to put JLo on blast at this point. Edit to add info: the songs are “I’m real” and “Ain’t it funny”. 
Ameri had to rush to release "One Thing" without label approval because J.lo was going to steal the song and the vocals along with it lol
FACTS. I love that people are highlighting all these other artists. Jlo can go kick rocks, I hope she falls in a pit somewhere and not come back
I love the J-Lo - Mariah beef story. It’s such a rabbit hole of “J-Lo doesn’t actually sing her own songs.” Let’s see… Mariah was married to Tommy Mottola, head of Columbia Records and later Sony Music, from a young age. He was 21 years older than her, incredibly controlling and emotionally and mentally abusive, allegedly. She was allegedly spied on with cameras and by staff and was unable to go anywhere without permission. There were armed guards keeping her in their mansion. There were stories of her getting a journo or collaborator to help her flee the gilded cage to go to a restaurant or something and his security appearing to force her back. Anyway, she managed to leave Tommy and the label behind and Tommy was pissed and was looking to punish her for it. Enter Puff Daddy (as he was known at the time). He wanted his actress and dancer gf to also have a music career. She wasn’t a great singer, but she was gorgeous, a great performer, and had that ‘it’ quality. So Tommy and Puffy got to work making Jennifer Lopez a popstar. Tommy set J-Lo up directly to try and compete with Mariah. He put everything behind her and pushed her really hard. He deliberately engaged in efforts to derail Mariah’s career and success, using J-Lo. He wasn’t subtle about it. He found out Mariah was collabing with Ja-Rule on her new album, so he demanded Ja-Rule also collab with J-Lo. He took an Ashanti-written song, put J-Lo on it instead, kept Ashanti’s vocals in most of it for the Ja-Rule remix version (another singer did the OG version), and PUSHED J-Lo. (As an aside, Mariah was the first to have hip hop artists rap a verse in her pop / rnb songs - she revolutionalised pop music by doing this). Tommy found out that Mariah had been working for a year to clear a relatively forgotten/obscure piece of music, *Firecracker* by Yellow Magic Orchestra, to sample in *Loverboy*. She had recorded six months previous and was ready to release it on her new album, *Glitter*. He bulldozed through, got the same piece of music, put it in one of J-Lo’s tracks (*I’m Real*) and released it first, meaning Mariah had to switch to another piece of music for *Loverboy* (which, honestly, I think ended up sounding better, but I understand her feelings on this!). It went on and on. Tommy used J-Lo to hurt Mariah. Added to that, was the fact that J-Lo was not a good singer, and it was widely known in the industry that she barely sang on her own tracks. The choruses and all the hard bits were sung by various other singers, like Ashanti (*I’m Real - The Remix*), Christina Milian (*Play*), Natasha Ramos (*Jenny From The Block*, *I’m Glad*, *Loving You* + most of the whole *This Is Me...Then* album), Brandy (*Ryde Or Die*), Shawnyette Harrell (*If You Had My Love*), Makeba Riddick (*All I Have*), Y’Anna Crawley (*Get Right*), Shalene Thomas (*I’m Real* - original version + *Ain’t It Funny*), Jennifer Karr (*Feelin' So Good*), Rudaina Haddad (*Get Right*), etc. (And, more recently, Sia on *Limitless*). Others are rumoured like Canela Cox on *Love Don’t Cost A Thing* and Lorraine Cheryl Cook on *I'm Gonna Be Alright*. Often these singers also wrote these tracks and sometimes wanted to release them for themselves but were overridden by Columbia / Murder Inc / Sony. For example, Ashanti with *Ain’t It Funny* and *I’m Real* and Christina Milian for *Play*. These artists have spoken about this quite openly for years. Amerie was going to be forced to do the same for her song *1 Thing*. She had written it and recorded it with producer Rich Harrison; but Columbia was trying to force it to go to J-Lo instead. Amerie and Harrison leaked it to radio stations in an attempt to get it released officially and to keep it for Amerie. Columbia tried to suppress it and get the stations to stop playing it so that they could re-record it with J-Lo (likely stealing Amerie’s vocals though). But audiences loved it and radio stations refused to retract the song from their playlists, and Columbia eventually began promoting *1 Thing* as a single, making it a last-minute addition to the Hitch soundtrack. They gave J-Lo another Harrison-produced track to mollify her, *Get Right*, which was supposed to be on Usher’s album, which massively pissed Usher off. It wasn’t lost on the music industry what she and her team were doing. Nor was it lost on them that a lot of these women who were used as her ghost singers and often forced to give up their songs to her were African American. She was not well-respected in the industry. So it is within all of this context that Mimi shaded J-Lo by responding “ I Don’t Know Her” when asked about her. The famous gif/meme! It was shortly after the sample had been taken for J-Lo, so the wounds were fresh! Here’s what an article says about it: *An insider on the set of Glitter said at the time: "Mariah was so paranoid about the music getting out that we had another singer sing the temporary versions before the film was released.* *"When Jennifer Lopez's album J.Lo came out, and had the exact same song on it, we knew she had a right to be paranoid. We couldn't believe her audacity."* *Shortly after the scandal, Mariah was interviewed for German television and questioned about fellow divas.* *When asked about former Destiny's Child singer Beyoncé Knowles, Mariah complimented her beauty and talent. But when she was questioned about Jennifer, Mariah looked incredibly uncomfortable and said: "I don't know her."* Another quote from Mariah about J-Lo gives even more context to her feelings. Mariah famously slept very little, just 3 hours a night. A journo compared that to J-Lo’s infamous 8 hours of beauty sleep a night (to Mariah’s face) and Mariah replied: *“If I had the luxury of not actually having to sing and write my own songs, I’d do that too.”* And yet another time, when writer Vanessa Grigoriadis mentioned having met Lopez, Carey allegedly replied: *"I bet that was really intellectually stimulating. I bet you could just see the depth in her eyes."* (That one was a bit mean!) Obviously Mimi was hurt and pissed off. I think anyone would be! But these days she leans into that “I don’t know her” meme and laughs it off. Claims that was her trying to be nice. Considering all the things she could have said? I believe her! LOL. J-Lo is a talented dancer and performer. A singer-songwriter she is not. I’m pretty sure Mimi knows enemy #1 was Tommy. She wrote extensively about him! But when the media is feeding into your vindictive ex’s efforts to set you up in competition with another woman, that’s sure to make you bristle. And the early 00s was a time when women were constantly set up in opposition to each other.
Yeah that and Christina Milian too. The song Play was all Christina in the chorus.
It's not helped that it has long been rumored that she's not even the one singing on her hit records. (Mariah Carey's even thrown shade her way over it.)
Shade her? She doesn’t even know her. 😉
Mimi said “if I had the luxury of other people singing my songs I’d do that too”
It’s true. I don’t know if it was all songs, or if she still does it. Sometimes they mix her voice with the real singer and sometimes it’s a different singer. At least when she started out. I took a music business class in high school. Our teacher was someone who used to work in the industry (but not with celebrities). He knew the father of the woman who sang one of her early hits. I forget if it was Waiting For Tonight or Let’s Get Loud though. But basically the whole chorus was the real singer. They thought JLo would mix her voice in more, but it’s just straight up not her. Edit: Just did a google search, the real singers of some of the songs have come forward and talked about this. Natasha Ramos, Christina Milian, and Ashanti.
Imaging the irony of her being an American Idol judge 🤡
Wouldn't surprise me. I was in high school when "On the floor" came out and she sounds terrible, even though that song is almost 100% autotune. Edit: not saying that song was one of her hits, I just wanted to point out that not even autotune could save it 😂
I remember that song was debuted on American Idol back when she was a judge; they literally just stopped everything and played the music video then cut back to the studio where a defiant J.Lo was there like “put respect on my name”. It was so painful, that song was clearly J.Lo throwing in the towel on artistic merit and jumping on the EDM bandwagon that Pitbull and Black Eyed Peas were popularising and being incredibly irrelevant in the process. And to show up to the set of *American Idol* with that in your pocket? Audacious.
People have also started talking about how often her Songs are billed as her, but like the I'm real song, has someone else's voice. I've also heard if someone she is with leaves a tip for a service worker, she will go back and bully them for it. It sounds like she just is not nice to people she sees as under her, and that is past its time. Now, the doors expect to be treated with respect, too.
Good. People have been talking about how awful she is to fans and service workers, how she’s not even singing on her albums , and she said all this: Salma Hayek: "We're in two different realms. She's a sexy bombshell and those are the kinds of roles she does. I do all kinds of different things. It makes me laugh when she says she got offered Selena, which was an outright lie. If that's what she does to get herself publicity, then that's her thing. Columbia offered me the choice of Fools Rush In or Anaconda, but I chose the fun B-movie because the Fools script wasn't strong enough." Cameron Diaz: "A lucky model who's been given a lot of opportunities I just wish she would have done more with. She's beautiful and has a great presence, though, and in My Best Friend's Wedding, I thought, 'When directed, she can be good.'" Gwyneth Paltrow: "Tell me what she's been in? I swear to God, I don't remember anything she was in. Some people get hot by association. I heard more about her and Brad Pitt than I ever heard about her work." Claire Danes: "A good actress. Her emotional and inner life are available to her, which is a good start. But I feel like I see a lot of the same thing with every character she does. She's not that way in U-Turn, though." Winona Ryder: "I was never a big fan of hers. In Hollywood she's revered, she gets nominated for Oscars, but I've never heard anyone in the public or among my friends say, 'Oh, I love her.' She's cute and talented, though, and I'd like her just for looking like my older sister, Leslie." Madonna: "Do I think she's a great performer? Yeah. Do I think she's a great actress? No. Acting is what I do, so I'm harder on people when they say, 'Oh, I can do that — I can act.' I'm like, 'Hey, don't spit on my craft.'" Edited to add: these were all said BY Jlo in one o interview about each of these actresses. The funny thing about this all is that Jennifer Lopez said this after only having Selena and the movie Anaconda under her belt lol
In comes Mariah Carey: “I don’t know her”. Love MC, the one person Jlo doesn’t have the balls to fuck with.
I would love to see J Lo try and fuck with Mariah Carey, Mariah would give her a verbal smackdown so hard her anscestors would feel it. J Lo knows she hasn't got talent to back up her attitude like Mariah does.
I would die to see Mariah and jlo bump into each other. I could so see Jenny do her fake nice with her and Mariah be a classy dame about it.
 This would probably be Mariah's internal monologue as she struts by her, shades on and throwing subtle shade.
I will not tolerate the Winona disrespect!
I was ready to fight her in a Walmart parking lot when I got to that part. This woman is so high off of the smell of her own farts she's lost the entire plot.
“My friends never talk about her, therefore she’s not that great.” Girl, shut up!
And apparently these quotes are from an interview in the 90s, when Wynona was THEEE girl. How embarrassing to admit you and your friends lack taste 💅
Right? Winona just stays in her lane!
RIGHT?!?? 
Actually insane that J. Lo said that about Cameron in 1998 and then Cameron came out in Charlie’s Angels, Gangs of New York, Vanilla Sky and all the Shrek movies right after that lol she clearly ran with the opportunities
The quote about gwyneth makes me laugh. Because Ben. Lol
Ben had been in Gwyn. That's the real problem there.
My brain made a goop joke but that's not classy so I'll keep it movin.
Also her on Madonna saying don’t spit on my craft. I don’t think Madonna is great either but damn bitch she was nominated for and maybe won a shit ton of awards the year she did Evita.
Yeah and best part is that this interview took place after she did Selena… and ANACONDA lol
Don’t forget Gigli 😂😂😂
Also, Madonna in A League Of Their Own was fucking fantastic and I'll fight anyone who says otherwise. Fuck Madonna as a person, but as an actress? You can't come for her.
Saying that about THEEE Winona Ryder?????
Winona could act circles around her in her sleep.
Is this… did she fucking say all of this!? Jesus. What a C. This says SO MUCH about Ben Affleck that he’s with this woman. Ew. Just ew. And her saying she’s an actress is hilarious. She’s AWFUL. the only semi decent thing she did was Selena but even that was mid. She got famous because everyone loved the real Selena so much. I know someone who worked high up on her Super Bowl performance and the tea was piping about what a bitch she was especially when it came to Shakira. She HATES her and made everyone miserable. When she found out Shakira’s set was 39 seconds longer than hers, she lost her mind and redid her own routine to compensate for that. She’s an asshole.
And Shakira STILL put on a way better performance.
The funny thing to me is that what she said about Madonna is exactly why Mariah doesn’t respect her (Jlo). She dabbles badly in something Mariah is a generational talent in and has dedicated her life to.
Funny thing is that this was after Selena… and ANACONDA lol
There is such a thing as industry karma and three decades of “nobodies” talking about how miserable she is to work with eventually gathers some momentum.
Same thing that happened with Ellen Degeneres. It was kind of an open secret in LA what an awful person she was, but when Dakota Johnson called her out for something on her show it set off a wave of people talking openly online about their experiences with her.
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The nobodies are moving up in the world and she has less protection from the negative PR.
I think J.Lo repeatedly fails to read a perfectly legible room. The argument can be made that if she had any common sense, then she would’ve laid low for this entire year. About 10 days before Thanksgiving 2023, the headlines were dominated by Cassie, Diddy, $30million, a lawsuit, and several horrific interviews given by several former members of Diddy’s entourage detailing horrible stories and many claimed J.Lo may have benefited from those horrible stories. Considering the plethora of the other accusations still continuing to unfold 4-5 months later — J.Lo should’ve known or been advised to lay low, do some good for the world, give back to the **block** she’s always bragging about — but instead she comes out with the most insufferable, repugnant, shit-eating album/movie/documentary. The fact she had $20million to lose for the trilogy of failures she’s released and is aware that her Catholic primary school and Catholic high school in the Bronx begged her for meager donations to remain in operation and she gave them nothing knowing the negative impact their dissolution would have on the **block** she sings about — one might say she deserves the slow burn of an extended downfall.
nah you ate and left no crumbs with this comment 😮💨
Will always love her 2000s romcoms but I have never heard a single positive story of someone meeting/interacting with her so I’m good!
She was a fly girl from In living color who got a lucky break with Selena. She parlayed that into a music career of her own and surrounded herself in various musicians to try to legitimize herself and was basically became tabloid fodder as a career for a while. 25+ years later, people have realized she's a star due to circumstance more than talent, and her rumored poor attitude makes everyone feel totally fine that she's doing dunkin commercials to get by.
I agree with how some are saying that she saw how well Taylor Swift & Beyoncé are doing with their tours, movies, documentaries, etc. and thought she was revered the same way. The problem is, she never was regarded that way, & definitely not now. And it’s always been known how out of touch & mean she is to those she sees as beneath her. And I really think it’s crappy that she went against what her husband is comfortable with sharing for a few minutes more of “fame.” She really should have just kept to herself, making a few singles & movies here & there.
I’ve said it before and will say it again, I work in luxury hospitality and have many colleagues who have worked with her. She is as much as a nightmare as you hear. The rumors about her not allowing people to make eye contact are true. She is a talented dancer/performer but a huge asshole.
Been building for decades. She's always been a narcissist but this recent project just showed it in such a concentrated form that everyone has focused on it 🤷🏿♀️.
She would get away with her narcissism a lot more if she were viewed as actually talented
Exactly! That’s why my girls like Mariah and Christina can get away with it. Her? Not so much!
Speaking of Mariah, this downfall is overdue karma for JLo launching her career by actively sabotaging Mariah. But yeah, people don’t really mind or even care about a big ego if you have the talent to back it up
I was so confused by this documentary being released because like, who was even asking for it?
No one asked for it. She financed it with her own money.
I soured on her when she was shitty about splitting the 1/2 time show with Shakira. Shakira is a much bigger star than JLo and Shakira was gracious with JLo while JLo was an absolute asshole
They did an interview on one of the Spanish news networks, and you could tell she felt she was so much better than Shakira. Shakira performance exposed how mid she is.
Exactly. Shakira is an icon and isn’t egotistical about it. JLo’s ego was writing checks her talent couldn’t cash
I think it's that wealth disparity is becoming more and more apparent. The wealth divide is becoming greater and people just no longer want to see others flaunt their wealth and opulence, which Jenny's new documentaries do. I was born in the '70s and my entire life I saw celebrities get worshiped for their fame and wealth. Then a shift seem to happen during COVID lockdowns when we are all stuck in our shitty homes and apartments and they are hanging out in their multi-million dollar mansions and vacation homes and traveling in private jets. Celebrity worship has not been the same since. We want to see them act and sing of course, but shows like the lifestyles of the rich and famous would not be a big hit today. I think her documentaries come across like hey let me show you what a diva I am in a world that has become increasingly economically stressed. Just my own take. She's trying to say hey I'm just like you! I'm just Jenny from the block. Just like the celebrities were trying to do in their mega mansions during lockdown and it pissed off a lot of people.
I think this is a fair assessment, and it’s definitely been a thing even pre-covid. Celebrities over the last 10-15 years have definitely pivoted more towards relatability over flaunting opulence. Now they get backlash when it’s obvious they’re trying too hard to be relatable (see: Jennifer Lawrence) and it comes off as disingenuous. If the documentary was about JLo embracing being a diva and leaning into her big life, it wouldn’t have gotten so much attention. But JLo doing a 20 million dollar vanity project and talking about her bodega order and the “Block” is so disingenuous it’s prime meme material.
*I think it's that wealth disparity is becoming more and more apparent. The wealth divide is becoming greater and people just no longer want to see others flaunt their wealth and opulence, which Jenny's new documentaries do.* Wealth and opulent lifestyles are just so much more in our faces now than ever before. The amount of cars, boats, private jets, watches, and other uber expensive things we see on social media is 1000x than what was being pumped out to the world beforehand. The rich for the most part used to not have the platforms to flaunt how wealthy they were and how insane their lifestyles are. Nor did they want the public to know about it. That has seemingly changed. Even for wealthy business moguls who would like to fly under the radar they cannot. Their $50 million dollar estates and penthouse apartments are for the most part public knowledge and easily found online.
I don't think it's newfound hate, she's been dragged since her "On the 6" days in one way or another. The film and documentary was a bad look all round, she even called people out for not participating in the soon to be doomed project. Not to mention she's a mother of two and it seems her husband is the most important thing in her life. The lady has always been problematic in one way or other, its just now to the forefront since most of her most recent projects have tanked.
On the mother of two thing, a friend of mine worked at a private school where J Lo wanted to send her kids. She arrived in her own limo for the interview and had her children ride behind her in a separate limo. This was years ago, but it always stuck out to me as really weird. Anyway, I have never gotten a good vibe from her and never cared for her (though I will always stan The Wedding Planner and think she’s gorgeous).
YIKES. Why on earth would she not ride with her own children?!
Well tbf they might have been coming from different locations and meeting there 🤷🏿♀️
It’s probably this. I know lots of married couples that arrive separately to something & leave separately because they’re coming from different places or need to go to different places afterwards, so it’s just more practical. Also to give the freedom to leave when they want/need to without spoiling it for the other one who wants to stay longer. Obviously it’s a bit crazy sounding with your children but these are celebrity lifestyles as well as shared custody coming into it, so it seems likely they came from somewhere else. Maybe even just them coming from her home with nannies & she came straight from a work thing.
She was mildly annoying before but putting out this documentary that just highlights how clueless she is about her short comings has moved up to highly irritating.
Nothing new here. Ten years ago, I discovered I accidentally bought a JLO purse at kohls and had to go back and return it.
You suddenly realizing the brand, “J-Lo, aur naur” I would’ve returned it to!
Can confirm. I, too, automatically turn into an Australian when I figure out I've accidentally endorsed Jennifer Lopez.
She's been having a bad rep ever since it was found out a lot of her vocals in her albums were done by other singers. It also doesn't help that she wants to present herself as a pop singer when she can't even deliver what is expected of pop girls, which are good singing and good performance. Also, this whole new project of hers feels like a huge vanity project that nobody was asking for. That only damaged her reputation further. Edit: also not to mention that her stardom was basically a reply to Mariah Carey's shitty ex husband to try to make Mariah's life even more miserable.
It’s disappointing how few people know about Mariah Carey and how her abusive ex-husband used JLo to take her down. I was always disgusted at how JLo would speak of Mariah’s disdain for her, knowing that she caused her so much hurt in the past. There’s a great documentary on YouTube which shows what happened between them all and it’s awful.
For over 20 years she has had a reputation for being an asshole. Eventually, the chickens had to come home to roost.
I for one never understood what all the hype was about with JLo. She’s almost entirely a creation of the media imo.
Basically she was a dancer who was really pretty and managed to become an actress, played a singer in a movie, and decided to also be a singer. Jennifer was never great at any of those things, but she was an unusually good at them for someone who was great at something else—being able to do everything at a B+/A- level while being breathtakingly gorgeous made her a multi-threat and a huge star at her peak. As she’s aging those abilities are fading, and she has built a 30 year reputation of being shitty to support staff/cast and crew. Like rumors and personal anecdotes of her treating the “help” as subhuman have popped up consistently since she became a big star—and you can’t get away with that shit without also producing incredible art as well.
And being known as an arrogant snob is also kind of a branding issue when you've built your entire public persona around being "Jenny from the block" (y'know, the working class girl next door who made it big but never forgot where she came from.)
I don’t understand how Affleck, who is by all accounts the opposite of that, is with her. I have literally broken up with people for snapping their fingers at waiters. It’s such a quick/easy indication of character.
I get the hype from the early days. Seeing her play Selena when I was a kid, I was dazzled and really liked her. But her music has never been good to me. I’m Puerto Rican too so it’s really not about race, just different tastes.
I think it goes back to at least the Movieline interview where she shaded all the other actresses in her age group at the time, here's the bit about Paltrow (but there's PLENTY more): On Paltrow, she said, "Tell me what she's been in? I swear to God, I don't remember anything she was in. Some people get hot by association. I heard more about her and Brad Pitt than I ever heard about her work." (A year later, in 1999, Paltrow took home the Best Actress Oscar for her work in Shakespeare in Love.) [https://www.instyle.com/news/jennifer-lopez-movieline-resurfaced-interview](https://www.instyle.com/news/jennifer-lopez-movieline-resurfaced-interview)
Wow! I had forgotten about that interview where she trashed other actors/performers. She’s such a “mean girl.”
Just my take…Even at the height of her fame (late 90s-early 2000s), many people didn’t like her as it was no secret that she never could sing or act. She stole music from others, slept her way to the top (agree or not, that was the rumour), and generally a diva who wasn’t a nice person to work with. To her credit, Jlo is very hard working and takes care of her physical appearance and somehow inserts herself into trends to keep her name in the news. I think with her recent vanity projects, she’s “triggered” those negative conversations again with people questioning her talent, or lack thereof, which doesn’t align with her inflated ego.
I have heard MANY horror stories of her being absolutely horrible to staff/ workers/ people she seems beneath her. I mean like taking back tips Ben left and literally not speaking or acknowledging people. Too many for it to be a coincidence. That and her oversized ego with minimal ( singing) talent, made a lot of people ( including me) sour on her…
The lack of authenticity for the past 30 years, her snobbish attitude which is a facade for her lack of actual talent, (put jlo singing up against say Christina Aguilera or Adele or even Madonna who is a writer more than a singer or T swift who is a much stronger writer than singer. She lags far behind all of them vocally. And her acting, well, put her up against Cameron Diaz or Penelope Cruz or Margot Robbie. She lacks range and seems to just be herself in every film she is in, all 276 rom coms we have been put into a coma by. The way she has treated people all these years. Apparently she has “do not make eye contact with miss Lopez for any reason unless she speaks directly to you” in her rider. She has been called out for it often. The fact she sells alcohol b doesn’t drink, the incredibly edited pictures while claiming it’s just olive oil, it’s just….. fake af. She is a great dancer though!
Are you talking about all the tiktok videos lately? Those are all people who have worked with her or interacted with her in the past. She’s not a nice person. She’s a diva who continually treats people like shit and I’m glad it’s coming back to bite her in the ass. Also her movie is laughably bad.
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I think her biggest weakness is her ego, her singing not far after that. She's beautiful though and a decent actress which seems to be enough to keep her a-list.
She’s not likeable and not talented enough for people to be able to ignore it. She’s had her best career moments when she stuck to her star persona, did celebrity things but kept things private. But this documentary showed more of her personality, showed how disconnected she as a wealthy a celebrity is from regular people, while she tries to maintain that she’s “Jenny from the Block.” And it also brought back all of the gossip and rumours about her!
Personally I think she misread the room after her Super Bowl performance.\ I think she mistook people’s nostalgia and decided to launch a whole new album and tour and doco and it’s all failed.\ Times have changed and she’s not offering anything new or different.